This Car Was Too Heavy. How did it Keep Winning? 

Check out the BMW DTM story here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Wwk6sfCiNTY.html

I love the Audi mentality of performance products.. fuck weight and weight distribution.. Power and AWD will fix everything.

Stuck seems like a fun guy there. Hanging out of his window, kissing his co podium goers, hulahooping... Never knew that. Can I adopt him as my distant uncle?

There is quite a lot more to it. About the high weight of the V8: Group A rules heavily favoured large displacement cars (including turbos due to the 1,4x displacement factor). The DTM tried to mitigate this by limiting tyre width and imposing a minimum weight. In 1992 the BMWs and Mercedes had to run 40kg above regulation weight whereas the Audi V8 had to run 120kg above regulation weight. Due to this there wasnt any reason for Audi to decrease the weight of the V8. About the crankshaft: The Group A rules state that the original crankshaft must be used but that it can be modified. Audi played the rules and reheated original crankshafts to then twist the rod journals into a flatplane configuration. The OMS (governing body of the DTM) checked the engine after the Zolder race and deemed it legal. After the Wunstorf race BMW complained to the OMS which once again deemed the engine legal. BMW appealed this descision and suprisingly the OMS court ruled in favor of BMW deeming the crankshaft as illegal. Just a week later at the AVUS race a report by the TÜV and OMS was published which one again deemed the crankshaft as legal. At the next race weekend at Hockenheim BMW once again protested the crankshaft and once again this protest was denied due to the report and the previous decisions. Similar to the Wunstorf race, BMW appealed this decision and suddenly the crankshaft was ruled illegal again. Audi was sick of this inconsistency and left.

Schumacher... ramming opponents off the track since the late 80's.

0:43 ah the classic "holy shit we suck in comparison, better ban this new competition!"

I drove a '92 V8 Quattro for nearly a week, before deciding not to trade for it. I was stupid and should've kept the car. My truck was nice, and the ladies liked it much better... but that car was AMAZING for the year and mileage. At 180k miles, and having previously owned a 4000 CS, I was fearful of repair costs. Little did I know, the V8 Quattro was one of the most dependable cars Audi ever produced. I often look back and wonder how things would've been different, had I kept the V8.

That's not the whole truth. The "new" crankshaft used in 1992 was based on the series crankshaft. It was only bent the other way around during production. This was even accepted by the racing commissioners of the DTM and declared compliant with the rules. When the competition complained during the season, this was declared illegal and Audi got out of the DTM. This story comes from an interview with Ulrich Baretzky. He was head of racing engine development at Audi from the end of 1980 until Le Man's exit from Audi in 2016.

When I was in high school I got to hang out with Hurley Haywood and Hans Stuck in the Audi pits. Just me and two legends talking uninterrupted for about an hour, one of the most amazing moments of my life. They were both so humble and friendly

The v8 is my favorite DTM car ever. It's probably the car i have driven the most in Assetto Corsa. It's really different than the other DTM cars, you gotta really send it.

I still can’t believe how those cars managed to handle that well with so much weight hanging ahead of the front axle. Also, the packaging of the cooling system looks cramped. Knowing who was at the head of Audi at the time, I can only imagine the amount of time and effort that went into making these cars competitive.

At first I thought: wait what? An American is talking about overweight German cars? But your storytelling, editing and even your pronounciation of German words is top notch. Very well done 👍

dominating while hundreds of KILOS overweight is truly nuts

God those cars looked so beautiful

Changing the rules to kill the champions aren't new. The ACO changed the rules for LeMans so that Ford couldn't use their mighty 7 liter motors.

Putting Hans Stuck in the driver's seat is almost a form of cheating.

Audi-"Screw you guys, I'm going home!"

my favorite car youtuber uploaded

This channel is such a gem So impressive your work mate, I really hope you give yourself some credit Looking forward to the next, cheers !

Sad that they Banned AWD systems instead of incorporating it into the championships, like WEC does with hybrids and no hybrids, we could have had multi-class racing based on drive systems, a 4wd class and 2wd class championship.

‘Absolute barge’ Well said 😃

Then the A4 began to dominate. Then Audi went to IMSA and TransAm and dominated there. Until they changed the rules again. Off to LeMans and history. Don't forget Pikes Peak.

There was one more AWD Audi racing project in the US which again follows a similar story SCCA World Challenge where they brought S4's and RS6's to glory with a former Porsche team well until Pratt and Miller with GM backing took a Cadillac and dominated starting a trend for the car

Still waiting for Audi to make a WRC comeback 😐

I Owned a 1990 Audi V8 and the only thing fast about that car was that it sounded like it. I just can’t wrap my head around the fact they made it a race car lol

Please do a video on Australian touring cars! It would be awesome to hear you talk about Brock and the mountain

1/3 of the way through, enjoying the content and presentation, totally subbed.

The new RS6 hatch honoring the trans am car is so good looking. Its got the white with orange and all white wheels. Check it out if you haven't seen it yet.

Very happy i stumbled upon your channel.

always the best euro motorsports vids. cheers

just found your channel, went on a binge pretty much watched as much as i can so I can process the info of race cars of the years. Thank you for the info I was lacking on cars I have a love for, I’ve learned a lot I thought I already knew. If you made car documentary based on a certain topic like JGTC or BTCC I’d watch.

Every day’s a school day😎👍🏻 Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.

If you ever start doing driver profiles I'd love one on Walter Röhrl, he just seems to have been everywhere in the 80s und 90s

I don’t know if you have done anything on pikes peaks but there have been many interesting cars built for the event. If I remember correctly, there was once a dual engine golf built by VW

Watched twice already I love Audi I own 1 and looking to get Rs5 B8 and turn it into this beast for track

Love your channel .... So much info and facts I never knew or even heard of ... THANKX :D🤘

a few issues with Aero as well look at the clip at around @11:38 that Audi has its front wheels off the ground up hill 😲😲😲😲

We can only hope that audi makes this kind of a splash when they hit f1

During that time DTM ran two 100km-races on Sunday with a repait break in between. The race.in Saturday and Sunday was introduced in 2015, after there was only one race on Sunday since 2003.

Wait I recognize that footage of the track and wooden area. Motorweek!! Probably one of the best American automotive related media ever produced.

So many Audi "experts" and still nobody noticed some kind of a non-EU version Audi 100 C1 at 2:39.

In 1988 Audi went to North America to teach them how to pronounce Audi. In 1989 Audi were forced out of North America

6:28 .... WHAT? Never heard of him!!

That man wasnt stuck he was flying

Awesome.... Definitely an Audi fan. In the spirit of the v8, I race a Lexus LS400 in circuit racing lol (Though I have Audi street cars).

The A4 B5 STW car is gonna be my favorite for all time, simply amazing!

Lovely clip into the Golden era of DTM! BTW: what maker models are those Toyota GT-One, Sauber and Takata NSX behind you on the shelves? and what scale are those? I would love to have my hands on a NSX LM spec car from 1994... and ARTA NSX .

Great video !

Nice touch, that Audi livery with your name in it. I did snigger a bit :)

I bet you could head that thing screaming from miles away. The third loudest thing on the planet, second is a J-79 jet engine, and 1 is 787B

I have had a 2005 3.2L TT Quattro SLine with DSG for the past 18 years. Yeah yeah- I KNOW its a haldex, but it still puts power down in all 4 corners and the car just will not hydroplane and holds power thru twisty turns and curves better than any RWD I’ve driven or been very distantly chased by. It’s also been the lowest cost of ownership car I have ever had, not costing me anything beyond scheduled maintenance until very recently when I decided to spruce it up so it will stay new looking and driving another 18 years. It’s not the fastest car on the road, but it is the funnest, most affordable, and most practical. ( iv’e brought lumber home in my TT. ) And it’s possibly the best quality of build Audi ever achieved, with its all aluminum trim.

Ford Sierra next, please :)

Audi: shows up, wins, gets to good, goes home.

1:53 2.1 meter ?? Isnt it liter?

lets be honest , a high revving as possible 4 valve audi v8 was probably pushing out 500-600 bhp , bmw and mercedes where making 380bhp with their 2.5 evo's, weighing around 860kg, the audi with 4wd and weighing more needed at least 150-200bhp more to compete with them.

Nice video

Cool story, I found an interesting topic for video tho. I hear from many that rx7 was dominant in IMSA which is IMO more interesting than Mazda's french single triumph at Le Mans. Yet i cannot find any similar video on this topic

The "how" is that the DTM banned the nominal Group A competition. The Audi V8 Quattro would have roundly been beaten by the Holden Commodore VL SS Group A; which in 1990 did manage to steal a Bathurst win against the Nissan GTR. The VN which came in 1991 was also pretty handy. There were plans for the Audi V8 Quattros to appear at Bathurst in 1991 but the factory realised that they'd be beaten; so they didn't show up.

Sittin in a audi sq5 as i watch this

Mad take here but what if the DTM raced with souped up stripped out S-Classes, 7 Series and A8s?

Remember when cars looked good and had their own personalities? These days, all vehicles go for the edgy technology look, which sucks and is ugly.

talking about turbo bans.. I still dont get why ford did not put 5.0 coyote engine in a racing sierra.. they had built 250ish XR8 sierras with said engine

Great vid

Group A needs to come back.

4:48 hit from behind? he completely locked up and plowed into someone

had a beautiful 1990 V8. Loved that car. Until a scambag guy decided to steal it. My life changed after so I never got a chance to get the same car but got close a few times. The one I really wanted was a 1993 V8 4.2l Manual !!!

This is probably why F1 doesn't want Audi to race with other manufacturers in F1.

Didnt Audi fiddle with the cylinders 😂

It's simple- Audi don't mess around!

You know you’re great if the change the rules in TWO championships just to slow YOU down…

Like this video! These huge champ Audi is my all time fav

These BMW's & Mercedes Benz's where the legendary BMW e30 M3 with 2.3 liter engine and Mercedes Benz 190 2.3 16V. The Mercedes Benz 190 had/has multi link suspension on the rear axle, witch was pretty much unmatched/unheard vs the rest of the world in a standard car. back than. these cars will not brake out in the back if you want them too, you would simply drift around the corner in a controlled fashion and resume your drive. very cool.

Yo where can I get one of those pictures like you have from the Circuit de la Sarthe?

Group A was completely dominated by the Delta

now that i think of it, has audi ever made a light roadcar in its class?

May the legend Michael Schumacher have as happy days as possible for the rest of his life, you will be remembered.

one of my earliest memories in life was being 5 years old durring the peak of DTM . the e30 is cemented as my favorite race car of all time. audi's a close second.

Crazy that the E30 was still competitive during this time. It was out powered by the mercs and greatly out powered by the audis. And audi still had to cheat. Then when caught they dropped out and played victim. Not a good look for audi. Bmw would never.😂😂

Lancia and Peugeot were also fast and had no awd. But I don't see the point to claim Audi was cheating. Wasn't like they were hiding the fact using quattro awd

very nice video with M.Schumacher I WILL PRAY FOR MICHAEL TOMORROW

Funny how idiots talk about weight distribution without a clue. Its simple if you can use your brain 10%,but seems most of people just copy and paste what they hear at another idiots. Its called pendulum effect its same thing happening with Porsche or most of mid engine cars. This is one of the best things on car. The car have so much turn in and the feeling its just amazing.

Oh how I love Audi

hi there, i just wanna ask where did you get your car models ?,i mean i would love to buy them

does anyone know the song name that plays on 6:10

By the way, how do you make your videos. I want to do kind of the same thing as this, so I want to know how you make and edit them

Schumacher showing even in a road car he cant drive with the best 😂

5:40 💀

good AWD system that's why

where are the model cars from?

Do you have sources for the bgm you used?

Great video. Have seen a bit on this from the dtm 92 season review (might be on RU-vid) Never been a fan of audi. Sure they innovate but they cheat and bend the rules. Dr Ulrich was a proven source of this. I’m a proud bmw fan, don’t mind mercs but always found bmw to be better in more ways. Love the group a e30 M3, lucky to see them in Australia. Love The super touring e36s too. Especially the Bathurst winner that never gets remembered

Wasn't this cor covered already on here? Need a vid on the ford GT40 and GT

all your model caras are frrom the same manufacturer?

seems like Audi took quite some inspiration from AMG's Rote Sau for this one

audi may have won some stuff. But the 190E and E32 to this day are ICONS! the foundation on which the legend of DTM is built on those two cars. And audi had sweet F all to do with it. Sure enough Audi built a rally legend but no one gives a damn about their boring circuit racing days. Merc and BMW are far more desirable From this era.

Meanwhile... This is an opel omega evo, a "luxury" car, modified for dtm by (i cant remember the name)

V8 against 4 inline??

well weight is not all, a good driver even if the car is heavy the superiority in building suspenctions superior to all others and always perfect handling cars would m,ake it a winner if it were like others and the drivers were all equal then weight was a factor but in this situation was proven not to be ,the sirra cosworth not RS500 won a lot with extra weight

Wish Audi returned to DTM again btw.

I love the Jimmy Saville/Bono glasses mate. Very 80's paedo of you.