👆🏻That is what happens when people become followers of men. They come to believe the church can do no wrong. They become Catholic in practice instead of Protestant in principle.
How blessed we are to have Dr. Veith to give us messages. I feel we are listening to a modern day Paul- so wise, such deep knowledge of the Bible- and a deep commitment to truth telling. He has has extensive experiences and knowledge of Catholism, Evolution, Spiritualism. He has a brilliant mind and has been through the trial of fire to mold him into this amazing preacher. I feel so blessed to listen to him. He inspires me to grow closer and closer to Jesus.
I so love Walter and Sonica! Now their wonderful son is on line with Martins son. I love them, too. They are such Godly sons .Spreading the wordcof God! I have learned so much listening to Walter on line. My prayer life is so much better as well! ❤❤❤
@@patricekielhorn1178 that's what that text is saying, is it not? We can "trust" God *_in_* them, not them specifically. Because anyone of us, at any given moment can become sons of perdition, just like Judas and just like Peter when he told Jesus in Matthew 16:22 (KJV), *_"Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee."_* Jesus' inner circle had someone working for the enemy and the other disciples were none the wiser. Peter was but for a moment also working for the enemy when he tried to stop Jesus from completing the work of Salvation. Now tell me, is anyone alive today an exception to this principle? *That* is exactly why we are to pray earnestly and diligently for each other, *especially* our leaders that they may only speak *"Thus saith the Lord."*
I wish God's people will awake to the seriousness of times and get ready for what is already upon us, for time has almost run its course. Jesus is almost on HIS way back to earth
I love this sermon! It actually goes completely along with Dr. Vine's sermon, it just happens that this is a little bit more metaphorical on who he's calling out here but it's inescapable what he's actually saying and who this is about
I am a self supporting missionary, the conference here treat me like my savior, they reject, insult ,humiliate me I turn to my experiences where God send a lady to warn me 15yrs ago and two wks before I came to this country 13yrs ago an angel spoke to me and reminded me that God send me , even here God give me the best of every thing, I don't work but I lack nothing and best of all I have my Bible and desire of ages my relationships book my greatest reminder how Jesus dealt with the situation, please prayer for me.
I am thankful for an Adventist like you I thought I was alone who knows that Ellen White wasn't the last person that God spoke to God will continue to raise vessels to use until the end for instance I came to this church from Anglican after I received a dream concerning it to be Emmanuel's synagogue and I still receive dreams concerning spiritual journey But the Adventist can't accept them for I am not an official in our congregation neither did I finish school Recently a few months ago I received a message saying as we enter the last days God wants Christians who are thin in body but fat in spirit and that can only be found through constant prayers and fasting Every Adventist I shared this message neglects it saying you dream what is in your head
I think I'm seeing the error in my ways..Although I agree with Conrad Vine, now is not the time to leave church. Sometimes it's easy to forget GOD is in control when you see the Tares making decisions in church. I pray the Lord give me the heart to pray for certain people because I don't even want those who don't agree with Conrad around me. Seek GOD, Love Mercy and walk humbly before our GOD.
@@denisepeloquin7997agreed. Conrad never said to leave the church. He said we are to stay rooted firmly in the truth God has given this church regardless of who else capitulates, even if they happen to be leadership.
@@denisepeloquin7997They didn't make a mistake , there is nothing to acknowledge. Romans 13:1-7 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. Respectfully, Vaccines are not the law of God and we not Jehovah Witness .
We must know pure unadulterated doctrinal Biblical truths and thus follow Jesus Christ wherever He leads even standing with Him outside and knocking at the door of the Laodecean SDA church...we're not safe inside a church that is going deeper into apostasy our only safety is to be where Jesus is.
I think the “new organization” spoken of by the prophet came a long time ago. Think about it. The first statements of beliefs were non-trinitarian. At that time we were not a 501C3…. We said abortion was murder…. We were non-combatants…..etc… it was at that time that EGW said that we should not enter into a new organization. But in 1980 we changed gods and voted in the Trinity….. we joined hands with the government and became a 501C3…. We are absolutely a different organization than we were when she gave that warning. Today people all around the world are learning these facts. They are examining the reasons that we used to give for rejecting the trinity…..they are going back to the faith once delivered unto the saints….. may God bless you as you study…. (Just for the record, I still love Walter!!)
Yes, the quote at about 54 mins was in the year 1908. The platform then was non-trinitarian. I wonder if Walter knows he is standing on a trinitarian platform, and that he needs to examine the platform!
The problem is that there's no bottom-up structure anymore if delegates are silenced n their items they suggest to be discussed are ignored. How do we deal with that leadership that doesn't respect the membership?
@@MSB780 No you are comparing apples with oranges. Conrad Vine was addressing the GC. And the things that were being done that are not correct within the conference .
@@heidimcfarland7923 I didn’t say anything about Conrad Vine, you did! Why is every comment, nowadays, thought to be about Conrad Vine? The church has been using their power, in error, for a very long time now. It was just eight years ago when there was a big thing about the conference killing babies, and then it was women’s ordinances, then supporting same-sex-people, and I’m sure some things I’ve never even heard of that have been added to the list. I just decided to stop supporting them! why? because the world needs to know about the gospel truth, and I need to spend time and money trying to share it. not fussing about all this nonsense that’s been going on for years, and years, and years. 🤦🏼♀️
@@heidimcfarland7923 I’m not comparing any thing, nor any one! and getting tired of RU-vid, or whoever, deleting my comments. People are always judging me, on here, and nobody’s ever talks to me in person or has had any kind of conversation with me in any way, shape or form. yet by the comments, they think they know what I’m talking about. I’m not talking about Conrad Vine. I’m talking about EVERYTHING that’s been going on in the seventh Adventist Church, for the past 25 years, since I entered it. All that Walter Veith has talked about thru the years, does not expire! His lessons just keep getting more relevant, more clear and much bigger to notice as time goes on…
