This Might be the Perfect Handcannon! 

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I have farmed for HC/Inc for 3 weeks and it simply does not exist.

Honestly, if you want a legendary sunshot, i would reccomend Zaouli's Bane from Kingsfall, which can get Explosive Rounds and Incandescent, with both being enhanced. I do get the utility of heal clip, so thats fine, but i feel Zaouli's does a better job at trying to fill Sunshots niche as an great ad clear weapon.

Fun thing to note is marksmans dodge procs HC, very fun teamwide wormhusk!

if you want a damage boost use solar surge also use solar aspects for increase reload speed

Man I miss watching all your guide and build vids! I probably speak for a lot of people when I say you made Destiny2 so much fun with how well you explained builds and guides for other stuff. Hope you are able to come back and make vids for final shape!

I just assumed that the HC/MH combo was designed specifically for PVP so that if you win a duel, you can immediately heal and get a damage boost for another duel immediately after.

Heal clip on this goes great with solar hunter for the crazy reload speed buff

they need to revert the mag houl changes and just make it need more shots to activate in 180s like chill clip manages to work

Used this throughout pantheon and its done me so good

Keep in ming that bungie is removing spec mods. Youre going to be using backup mag on everything, so you dont want a magazine boost perk. Flared is literally the best come final shape.

Heal Clip feels incredible now. I nabbed a heal clip/frenzy igneous and it's been doing great work

Im so glad i got this perk combo its so fun!!

Just a heads up, Adhortative (the undying pulse) can be crafted with heal clip and incandescent as well, and pulses are getting buffed next season. Sometimes you just need more range than a hc, def worth crafting.

With solar fragment that gives u energy when healing some one plus the Veritas brow. Plus the origin trait. Just nades and everything else for days

Looking forward to your builds for prismatic in the final shape

I have a subsistence incandescent roll and it's one of the most fun ad clear weapons I have

I already have Zaoulis crated and recently got an adept version with Explosive payload and incandescent, but I still want a Lunas howl with heal clip and incandescent. Unfortunately 70+ in, I've yet to get one

I got extremely lucky last night and got the HC/Incandescent roll. The increased dropped rate is a godsend I got like 5 or more on the final chest alone.

This gun creates so much explosions it makes you feel like you are using Sunshot. Couple that with the absence of upward kick common in other archetypes.. its a big win.

Honestly torn on this, helio, or adorative as my favorite heal clip inca weapon. Adhorative pulse especially after the massive buffs its getting may be the best, but both helio and lunas feel great depending on the range im in. Also... its weird how much i enjoy epocial, especially paired with conditional and the raid LFR for x2 of the origin trait. I lose out on heal clip but gain amazing feeling of the gun. Im so torn on what to use

Always appreciate your input. Nice one.

For my top 2 Forbearance rolls.. Both with Demo, but chain reaction, and one For All ( beleive this was the quest one). I also have a Stats for All/Chain roll and a Ambitious/Golden

I've been playing onslaught since launch and just today got this lunas howl. So tough good luck yall last week tp try and get it 💪

Luna's Howl with Heal clip + incandescent / mag howl is a thing of beauty. Works fantastically for both PVP and PVE IMO. Proccing ember of benevolence in fireteam content also helps regen significantly. Midnight coup with firefly / EP + OFA also "kinda" fits the kinetic "sunshot at home" niche. While still freeing up at exotic slot. Obviously both legendaries aren't as good as Sun shot, they can't. But given that TFS will give Sun shot "an adjustment", the gap might even be closer than we think. For Edge Transit, autoloading holster does work for some players. Because you lose Envious stacks if you fail to stay alive before the DPS phase. If the player is not confident, he can use ALH instead.

Got my heal clip incandescent lunas today. I was so happy. Unfortunately no reload master work and flared mag well but oh well

you should try and make a build for starfire protocol with that luna roll especially with the fragment that gives you 300% grenade mele and class energy when you heal teammates.

I LOVE heal clip incandescent Luna's and have found myself really prefering the survability over explosive payload from Zaouli's Bane in pantheon, however a roll i would not overlook is enhanced subsistence incandescent since with back up mag itll get THREE bullets back perk kill which will make it pretty insane for ad clear. I have a similar roll which i love on round robin but incandescent will make this a whole new beast

Glorious Howl I feel like sits in the same or similar area as Sword Logic. Farming quick kills on red bars ramps damage to allow to to increase your ttk on tankier enemies

I watched aztecross gl video yesterday while your Godroll edge transit was near the top cascade and explosive light was at the top at least with his damage testing but to each there own

I 100% recommend heal clip incan. I've done a whole bunch of flawless master lost sectors and 5 coil runs solo with it.

I have the 4/5 god roll Lunas with heal clip incandescent and its wonderful I feel like an off healer. Its wonderfully paired with my god roll mountain top with auto loading recom. Have it paired with Dragons breath, but I jate how slow the rocket is. Any suggestions on DB replacements?

The Return of the King

Yeah, the weapon feels really good. Didn't know heal clip was so legit until I started to use it.

mag howl should stack with precision hits AND kills. kinda like wish keeper

Ehroar, if you’re playing the top plates on the planets encounter you can jump across on top of the planets without having to go into the middle exposing yourself to all of those adds

I was able to get an enlightened action + incan and desperate measures roll with a stability masterwork and hammer forged+ flared mag and I said “f this I’m done farming”. Took weeks to get it

Finally ehroar uploaded

Pretty sure you’ll be able to change the mag perk tomorrow cause you can enhance the guns

one of my first rolls when i focused was heal clip incandescent w light mag and full bore. never deleted it, things a menace

Missed you ehroar

Edge Transit, don't discount Explosive Light, especially in a damage phase where people are making orbs.

One argument against Envious>ALH I’ve experienced recently is if you’re not able to readily clear ads, you won’t get as much mileage out of Envious (I can’t really think of a time where you wouldn’t other than if you’re a runner for Caretaker, I’m sure there might be more). Just something to be mindful of for use case.

I got a shiny Luna's Howl with Reload MW, Flared Magwell, Heal Clip, Incandescent/Desperate Measures And I love it. 👍

I choose luna's howl over the sunshot, I really do enjoy how the luna handle and how it feel overall even if the sunshot is a stronger crowd control beast

Does magnificent howl perk stay after reload if you swap weapons? If so I want to see the testing with lucky pants cause that’s would be off the charts damage

Got mine eventually but healclip, incandescent is a very rare drop.

I got it but I have yet to use it over crafted zaouli's. Def worth if you dont have that though

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Good luck to pantheon clears this week

I have a god roll PvE Luna’s Howl and Zaouli’s Bane is still my preferred legendary solar hand cannon.

Took me no joke like 400 drops for heal clip + incandescent to finally drop. Never mind a 5/5, just those 2 perks. Finally.

I got corkscrew, flared mag, heal clip incandescent and a reload masterwork

anyone know the robe ornament on his warlock?

Got 2 heal and Incan with flared and a reload mw and an enlightened action Incan to use with my precious scars

Got mine! But also want to shout out craftable Adhortative pulse with HC + Incan, will get a buff next season too

Forebearance Is about to be outshined by undercurrent because of vaultshot paired with demo, stats for all or lead from gold. With the chain reaction nerf I think this is the best option

Adept Zouli’s Bane with Explosive Payload + Incandescent 😊

I’m still not seeing how Luna’s is better than Zaouli’s. EDIT - Especially if you’re capable of finding an LFG and landing a Harrowed roll, which will be Enhancable in Final Shape and can slot Adept Reload.

imo a crafted zaoul's bane is the best energy for hard and normal content atm

wow i had a hc/inc light mag reload mw sitting in my vault

This build is insane! I was finally able to clear the Inverted Spire Strike on Nessus! Much love from Germany

what if my edge transit doesnt have spike nades, should I keep farming it?

HC/Incandescent Luna's Howl is good, really good and it feels just right, as I never liked Zaouli's Bane. Ofc, it's even better in a raid/dungeon team with a solar build and ember of benevolence. This changed by Well-lock build. I know Sunshot is better and it will still is in solo content, but in a team, I prefer the benefits of heal clip.

Keep in mind the “ darkest before” gets this roll and pulses are getting omega buff in final shape

I got lucky and have both incandescent heal clip/ and eye of the storm and kill clip roles, I don’t wanna be too greedy but I wanna get heal clip kill clip next 😝

me with my adept igneous that has heal clip + frenzy/incandescent :)

"there are no reload perks" enlightened action is there. I feel like no one talks about it

I’ve been using subsistence/incandescent and I love it.

the only issue is that it's got a 180rpm recoil animation, they need to make that shit kick more

2:35 Pantheon: Planets: Back plates: Bro just jump along the tops of the planets to get across. Much safer

I love seeing these videos then checking DIM and that mass hoarding I did pays off. Hype

You didn't mention that Bungie will be allowing you to enhance these brave weapons. Another gun to look out for might be the Blast Furnace because of the huge buffs Bungie is giving to Pulse Rifles. I'm personally looking for Frenzy and Kinetic Tremors

Shader at 4:00?

I have at least three legendary weapons rn that would have easily shipped as exotics 3 years ago.

So many people not willing to move on from Zaolis. Heal clip os the better perk. I just dont think explosive changes the break points for damage enough on handcannons to utilize it over a utility perk like HC.

My first shiny was heal clip incandescent and jt replaced my zaoulis

I got lucky and managed to get 1 HC/Incandescent roll the week that Lunas was released

The incandescent and heal clip roll is literally hands down the better option than zoulis bane

i want to like this gun but im too addicted to explosive payload on hcs, it just doesnt feel as strong as zaoulis

I love you Ehroar

Adhortative gonna clear all of this Heal/Inca weapons

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It needs to hit harder which it doesn’t, I’ll take king’s fall hand cannon

the amount of slideshot/incandesant lunas ive gotten is ridiculous. and they are the only ones ive gotten incan- on smh

I’ve been farming for HC/incan since lunas came out. Haven’t gotten one yet. I don’t think it exists

Not sure if I’d compare this to sunshot…. It’s no where near the add clear god that is sunshot. Its more a utility weapon to stay alive when using an exotic in a different slot. The solar dmg type has insane synergy too with healing nades to keep that resto going. Especially on a hand cannon.. for hunters this goes hard. Ridiculously hard. But its plays a very different roll than sunshot

I have probably gotten 300+ rolls of it nevertheless gets hc+incandescent

I'm just someone who dislikes that 180 HC visual kick. I like it more when the weapons kick a bit more and away, allowing me to see my target in between shots. The 180 kick covers the enemy too much, at least on high FOV. Not sure if I want to reduce FOV for the sake of visual target acquisition.

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Lucky I have 5/5 pve good can’t wait to enhance it

I like high caliber rounds over explosive.

I literally have every possible god roll stacked into gold borders but all I wanted was subsistence/incandescent. I’ve grinded upwards of 300 Lunas and not a single one dropped. What the heck am I not doing right?

thank god you finally uploaded abt luna's i was looking for an opinion to download

Mag howl in current state is not a PvE perk. It was incredible in PvE when it first rolled out but it's really only good for PvP now (specifically sixes).

I’m sorry but as a lover of both Luna’s and Zaouli’s I will never say it’s at the same level that Sunshot is. Incandescent only applies scorch which does damage over time but doesn’t actually kill any adds unless you proc the ignition. Sunshot literally disintegrates any red bar and some orange bars standing around the enemy you killed instantaneously. Plus it has the explosive payload, and it can proc ignitions to take care of larger enemies cause it scorches on impact instead of having it spread to other enemies. I’ve been matchmaking a lot of 50 wave onslaughts lately and I normally will get 1000-1100 kills and the other 2 people wont have that combined together. I’m not saying this to brag, literally all I do is boop a single enemy with Sunshot and everything around it dies. That plus a auto/recomb mountaintop and an apex for bigger enemies.

I got this (ican) and heal clip roll but its not gold tho but beggars cant be choosers

Bro just recommended spike nades.....

IDK why I didn't think about this. Im kind of sick of sunshot taking my exotic slot but im not ready to raid

Not everything is a paradox. PVP exists.