THIS MOD MAKES THIS GR SUPRA HANDLE LIKE A PORSCHE - Engineer upgrades the wheels and tires

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Automotive Engineer and Toyota veteran David Chao takes his 2020 GR Supra to the next level by upgrading both the tires and wheels - resulting in a substantial road performance improvement. Comparing to the 2021 Porsche 911 that David is driving this week, he concludes that the upgraded GR Supra comes very close to the capability of the 911 in terms of cornering, handling, and road feel.
David walks through the entire process and the full details of what were changed from the 19" OEM wheels and tires to the upgraded 20" Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires and Variant wheels. He also talks about the Pirelli P-Zero All Season Plus winter set that he uses during the winter months on the GR Supra.
Many thanks to Michelin Tires Canada, Variant Wheels, and 1010 Tires for the collaboration.
Full Specification below:
SUMMER UPGRADED TIRES
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
www.michelin.ca/en/pilot-spor...
Front
275/30R20
Rear
295/30R20
SUMMER UPGRADED WHEELS
Variant Wheels
variantwheels.com
20X10 with 29mm offset in the front
20X11 with 32mm offset in the rear
Variant Xenon Satin Gunmetal with blood red center caps
WINTER TIRES (ALL SEASON)
www.pirelli.com/tires/en-ca/c...
P-ZERO ALL SEASON PLUS
255-35-19 front OEM size
285-35-19 Rear extra large
WHERE THE TIRES AND WHEELS WERE INSTALLED
1010 TIRES RICHMOND
www.1010tires.com/About/Store...

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@enriqueblue 2 года назад

This has been a really informative video you've created. Thank you for all the help in deciding what kind of tire/wheels to get.

@SlickSniper3 3 года назад

Amazing looking wheels. Thank you for sharing the offset specs. Currently in a 2020 supra with te37 but I'm glad you are happy to share your experience. All the best to you and enjoy a supra week!

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Thank you so much! I hope you are enjoying your Supra too!

@johannjohann6523 4 месяца назад

Cool video, thanks for taking time to show us and go over your Supra. Sweet ride. those rims are unique you made a good choice. Bummer to not get to hear it start up. :(

@davidhenry8137 2 года назад

Brilliant! Very nice set up. Thank you for this 📹 video. Very Nice!

@MacforDummiesit 2 года назад

Wow. I love the Supra, and now looks really cool and aggressive. Great job and thx for sharing.

@darren1922 3 года назад

That looks so clean, David! Great job!

@RoundEyeMood 3 года назад

I'm usually not a fan of black or dark colored wheels but this set up really compliments the white exterior. Sure gives it a menacing look. Tastfully done.

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Thank you! It's grey colored wheels

@eddienguyen1884 3 года назад

Supra looks so clean with those wheels David 😱😍😍😍

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Thank you! Yes the new wheels definitely make the Supra look better and "cleaner".

@richardmann4094 Год назад

Just bought a 3.0 pro and this is what I have planned for my car. Good job sir

@chrisbecker3629 2 года назад

Outstanding review

@JesusHF37 2 года назад

Those wheels are stunning. They fit the Supra perfectly.

@brianwatson60 Год назад

Thank you. Would have been good to see before and after shots on wheels

@spmyvr268 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing. Good video.

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Thank you for your kind comment!

@pinkipipe 3 года назад

Red Wheel center caps ...Everything else it’s beautiful! 👍🏻

@TheTexican05 2 года назад

It’s easy to ruin the look of a car by selecting wheels that don’t match the shape and body lines of a car. You did a great job keeping this look consistent with the car’s OE form. And excellent tire choice. My 360hp GTI runs the PS4S; my 640hp GTO runs the older PSS. Both are absolutely transformative to ride quality, road handling, grip and noise. On warm street pavement, my PSS grip and hook better than all the drag radials I’ve tried. With none of the unsafe sensations during turns and lane changes. Thanks for putting this video together. ✌️🔧

@FC-fq1gk 2 года назад

Just found your channel great info and great video. Just ordered a 2022 model now I have something to think about now.

@AutomotivePress 2 года назад

Welcome aboard!

@jimtyme 3 месяца назад

Your car looks amazing with the wheels and tires upgrade. 😊

@isrstrategies Год назад

Congratulations on your golden Globe award

@kingman6136 3 года назад

Wheels look great!!

@eclipsetrekker Год назад

Thanks for sharing the specs, it's how it should be!

@solancethesolarelectrician5114 2 года назад

Loved your video, thank you sir! Small question… Do you also have Berger wheel spacers? I have them and figured they might be redundant, if I went with this set up would i need to remove the spacers? Would it make much difference in the feel if I didn’t add the 2 cm difference to the tire and kept the spacers? What would you recommend? Ditching the spacers?

@jasondexter8018 2 года назад

Wheels look amazing! Would a 305 or 315 fit on the rear without rubbing?

@jaydevries1020 3 года назад

I have my license plate in the exact same location for the front. Looks so much better than the factory mount.

@Grey_Ghost_GX Год назад

Car looks amazing!

@mrpmj00 3 года назад

I love the non-runflat Michelin Sport 4S tires on my 2017 Corvette with a manual transmission. The 4S hook up better than the non-runflat Michelin Pilot Super Sport. I liked the non-runflat Michelin Pilot Super Sport better than my OEM runflat Michelin Pilot Super Sport because the ride is better and they hook up better.

@andrepadilla9192 3 года назад

Ahhh no way!! Just got my Greenbelt and wanted to checkout you Auto channel! I too have the GR Supra

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Congratulations on your Greenbelt Certification! Did you just graduate from the course?

@charles-fq2dw 4 месяца назад

I can speak for the GTR community that mp4s tires is one of our best dolllar all around tire from our stock dunlops, i ran 285 square with these tires and it just grips and goes in any weather even in heavy rain. One of the best street tire that last long compared to the others

@KINGNESS2324 Год назад

I’m copying your exact wheel setup when I get my red Supra

@popseworld28 Год назад

Great you have yourself a new subscriber

@IDontTalkToCops 2 месяца назад

That stance is spot on 👌

@rd4809 8 месяцев назад

Currently I have the OEM tires that came my premium manual but it’s been too cold to drive the car. I am looking for a second set of tires and I’m thinking about the Michelin Ps4s AS. Would you recommend those for the colder seasons? I have another car that I can use if it snows but I’d like to be able to take the Supra out if the streets aren’t icy/salty.

@Kiteboarding316 3 года назад

What are your thoughts on going with the same set up but using a 35 profile rather than a 30? We have a lot of pot holes here and I’m fairly certain a 30 profile would end up popped by one.

@Ghosthamnida 2 года назад

Would like to know this aswell

@mmafan1966 Год назад

Love the red stripe on the spoilers! Did you purchase these or have them done custom?

@trevorhowell6575 3 года назад

Very nice choice

@RedspencerIS350 2 года назад

Great info! How would you feel about the use of 275/35/19 and 295/35/19 tires on the OEM wheels (Front 19x9 and Rear 19x10)? I would like to keep my GR Supra with an OEM look but maximum the tread width on these sized wheels without going to an aftermarket set.

@AutomotivePress 2 года назад

Good question. You should just double check the sizing issue using the wheel calculator. But since the OEM wheels are quite narrow, you might have tough time fitting those wide tires onto the OEM wheels

@brissoNQ 11 месяцев назад

Have you done this setup yet? Im looking to do the exact same!

@Alamuzik Год назад

Do you know if you wheels/ tire setup will work without any rubbing if the Supra was lowered about 1 inch all around?

@reynaldorivera743 9 месяцев назад

Looking 🔥🔥🔥🔥with the wheels

@alexvalle750 2 года назад

Great video! can you please give us a similar suggestion for Kia Stinger GT 🙂 Thank you.

@Wisefredo 2 года назад

THANKS FOR THIS! I purchased my IS 350 F sport because of your review btw! Love it. Thinking of a new Supra (especially if the rumored manual happens), will definitely upgrade the wheels and tires per this review. Question: what are your thoughts on QC for the Supra considering they are made by BMW?

@AutomotivePress 2 года назад

You're welcome! The quality has been excellent actually, because the Supra is built at the Magna factory in Europe where the Mercedes G class is also built

@joeyn7399 Месяц назад

I really like the look of these wheels, but on their website it says cold forged but then when I look up the details on the wheels flow formed. By chance do you know what it is?

@tjsullivan4793 3 года назад

David I am jealous....Enjoy!

@Mel-md6cb Год назад

Any thoughts on staggered vs square set up for track use?

@seancdfw 2 года назад

When I replace my tires I will be getting these. I had them on my Model 3 Performance and I will put them on my new Supra. I will confirm these tires are quieter and quite sticky. 👍

@seanliu1922 3 года назад

Great video,

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Thank you!

@seanliu1922 3 года назад

@@AutomotivePress Considering a next generation Tundra My first generation 2002 Lexus RX300 original owner it’s got 215,000 km

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

@@seanliu1922 Wow, impressive!

@theofficialpeterkim 3 года назад

Those look great.

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Thank you!

@iconroadster4777 2 года назад

Can you provide me some guidance on how I can upgrade my car's performance in a similar fashion?

@franciscopalomadojr6187 7 месяцев назад

If I lowered my car, would there be an issues with this kind of wheel set up, like rubbing?

@bloodyharprecords4910 Месяц назад

Any feedback at this time for your setup? Anything worth sharing if you would have adjusted something more? Looking to buy wheels and tires soon

@Highlander1432 2 года назад

Very interesting Good explanation and reasoning As I get older I am more interested in functional everyday performance over bragging rights

@fritzmotu4763 2 года назад

i'm surprised you don't use smaller rims. angular moment is rpm*momentOfInertia. By using smaller rims, more mass is concentrated toward the axle and hence less momentOfInertia. So basically using small rims means less energy is needed to spin up the wheels. indeed on f1 cars, the rums are small.

@851995STARGATE 2 года назад

That doesn't work on performance cars especially a torque one like this you're just gonna hurt the performance

@joeyn7399 Год назад

I truly like the set up of your Supra.

@AutomotivePress Год назад

Thank you! I've sold the vehicle though...

@joeyn7399 Год назад

@@AutomotivePress if you don’t mind my asking, did you sell it due to having issues with it or were their things you hated about the car? Asking because I am considering buying a 2023 and would appreciate your option. Thank you

@AutomotivePress Год назад

@@joeyn7399 Actually I loved the Supra but I switch out cars all the time, usually every 1 or 2 years. It was time to move on. Only thing I wasn't crazy was difficult entry/exit, and the interior being small despite the fact that I am not large. Also the steering feel was so so, but I loved the engine. I end up buying a Lexus IS500 but I also sold that vehicle now!

@tsifty1 2 года назад

You my friend are a true gem, well done vlog and feedback. By the way how is your driving in winter and do you take it out in the snow? I am in Quebec and thinking about this car but winter scares me and not being a young men wonder how is the reaction when they see us behind wheel....

@AutomotivePress 2 года назад

Thank you so much! I would not recommend driving the Supra in winter in Quebec - it is not a good winter can even with winter tires. I would buy something else with AWD but yet still sporty, like an Audi S5 for example.

@JesusHF37 2 года назад

AutomotivePress what wheels do you recommend for a BMW E92?

@floridaman2528 2 года назад

Does this set up work better on a track than OEM?

@851995STARGATE 2 года назад

Does the speedo still report proper speeds with the 20s?

@heh2k Год назад

How/why does this make it handle like a porsche? Is it close to the same setup? (tire size, wheel base, width)

@dbarney68 8 дней назад

David, how did you put the red accent around the ground effects? I’d like to do that

@surferbuoy4690 Год назад

Thanks for this very informative video. Just a question though, does the 275 tires in front rub? I saw an incident in this supra forum where he had a square set up of 275/35/19, 19x10. His front tires rubbed. Would you recommend adding in some spacers?

@AutomotivePress Год назад

Mine didn't rub, though it was tight. I didn't lower my suspension. Normally, I don't like using spacers.

@surferbuoy4690 Год назад

@@AutomotivePress Thank you so much, David. one last question though, If I opt out to get 19x10 instead of 20's. Would the 29 offset still work or do I need to adjust that too?

@AutomotivePress Год назад

@@surferbuoy4690 It depends more on the width of the tires - not all tires have the same width even if they are the same dimension. May be best to check with your tire dealer just to be sure.

@spyder9172 2 года назад

👏🏼🔥🔥🔥 Nice!

@johannjohann6523 4 месяца назад

That's a great looking color of White for that car. I'd probably go with brighter rims, but that's me. And either hood louvres or a hood scoop w/ a functioning Ram Air system. :) Perfection I believe. It looks fast just sitting there. Instead of a parking ticket you get a speeding ticket.lol

@joegarcia2113 10 месяцев назад

what about speedo changes?

@tjbmap 2 года назад

Great advice, I got the tires you recommended and wow does she handle well, thank you! I have a stupid question though. The dealership mounted the wheels and tires and inflated the tires to about 33. Sidewall says max is 50 psi…what pressure do you recommend?

@liuchang5660 2 года назад

hi, its been a month now and how does it feel driving after your new wheel he recommended?

@tjbmap 2 года назад

@@liuchang5660 I love em but I didn't get exactly what he recommended. I got Asanti Black 31's

@liuchang5660 2 года назад

@@tjbmap 20 inch rim and the offset tho?

@thomasmorrison4694 Год назад

For better traction at higher horsepower which do you think would be better for the rear? 295/30/20 or 305/30/19? Often do pulls from a dig and get lots of wheel spin on the factory size. Love the video btw!

@kenchen704 Год назад

600bhp Ferraris and Lambos run on 305/35/20 and they still wheel spin off the line.

@tilligetbig Год назад

295/40/18 with MT's

@davepaturno4290 5 месяцев назад

Reduced unsprung weight does make a difference, although I believe at least some Supra factory wheels are forged and perhaps lightweight, already.

@E82N55 Год назад

Having a low profile tire will result in a faster responding tire which is probably good for the street, but ultimately less total traction at the limit

@insansiregar6158 6 месяцев назад

Do you use any lowering springs?

@wayneh1562 3 года назад

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤the new supra,gorgeous

@GearsAndGains1 2 года назад

I love the red accents you have on your body trim! Where did you get it if you don’t mind me asking? Also fantastic video. I was going to get new wheels and keep the stock tires, but I will defiantly be buying the 4s now!

@AutomotivePress 2 года назад

Thank you so much! It's just a simple decorative body molding you can buy at any automotive parts shop. Unfortunately, I've sold the Supra though...

@shoheiburns8513 2 года назад

@@AutomotivePress why did you end up selling your Supra?

@AutomotivePress 2 года назад

@@shoheiburns8513 I usually change cars every year or two, so it was time to try something different. More on this coming later on...

@blck04gt 2 месяца назад

Where are these Variant wheels made?

@jacksparrow5281 Год назад

Given the change in wheel and tire size how do you go about determining the correct tire pressure for normal and spirited day to day driving - from an engineering standpoint pls.

@AutomotivePress Год назад

Generally speaking, you can keep the same tire pressure but I usually add 1 to 2 psi for spirited driving.

@jacksparrow5281 Год назад

@@AutomotivePress Thx - good information and good to see that the mfg specs are not blindly followed.

@sneakrpick Год назад

is the supra lowered as well?

@ckmagz9297 2 года назад

Is it using stock suspension?

@brenthlete 2 года назад

Hi David, what lowering springs did you install in your GR Supra?

@AutomotivePress 2 года назад

Actually I didn't lower the car at all, just looks low because of the tires perhaps.

@brenthlete 2 года назад

Wow! Great wheel and tire setup…👍🏼

@jsavoni6478 Год назад

I might have to try this on my new supra. I may keep stock rims though, I like them 🤣

@davidy932 3 года назад

David- I may have missed it, but how much do the 20's weigh? How much do the 19's weigh in comparison? Curious if you have increased unsprung weight. Thanks

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

That's a good question... unfortunately they don't provide the weight information so I have to guess. Based on the design of both wheels, I would expect the Variant to be about the same weight if they were both 19s, but because my Variant wheels are 20s and they are also wider and larger - I would think that they are heavier by a bit.

@daultonatvariantwheels1445 3 года назад

Hey David! Our 19 staggered setup are 24-25 pounds, and a 20 staggered setup are 26-28 pounds! Hope this helps!

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

@@daultonatvariantwheels1445 Thanks for providing that information. I absolutely love the design and engineering of the wheels and I am so glad that I went with Variant vs other brands like Vossen. Your products are superior at much lower cost!

@bobklee2397 2 года назад

Bigger wheels also means smaller amount of rubber so need to compare weight of wheels plus tyres. When you swap these wheels and tyres for the OEM perhaps you could provide the comparative weights , thank you

@TherealGM4NN Год назад

What wheels are those

@joeyn7399 4 месяца назад

Did you lower the Supra too or just put larger tires and wheels on the car?

@AutomotivePress 4 месяца назад

I just changed the wheels and tires, but didn’t touch the suspension

@Noddyunplugged 9 месяцев назад

Cannot go wrong with Michelins. I swear by them. I’ve a ‘19 BMW M140i shadow edition (read as: “Toyota” Supra in a small hatchback body. Literally. Same engine, trans, different body) and since my old M135i, I won’t run anything else. Especially recommend them for anyone with an open rear diff too, they really help with making things a lot more predictable and controllable.

@NGGamer-nb6bu Год назад

Great video. What size spacers are you using ?

@AutomotivePress Год назад

Thank you! Actually no spacers - just the right kind of offset to make it look fit well

@NGGamer-nb6bu Год назад

@@AutomotivePress got it. Looks great

@frederickfarias9515 3 года назад

You are like the Steve Wozniak of cars.

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Thank you!

@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw 3 года назад

A bit of topic but will you still be doing the review of the ranger tremor?

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

When it becomes available for a review, yes absolutely!

@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw 3 года назад

@@AutomotivePress or was it the regular ranger you started making a video about around a month ago

@impactXS 2 года назад

You seem to pride yourself on being an engineer, and good job on keeping the scrub radius the same with the new wheels. With the new setup though, you are making the rear track width wider than your front track width, and my question to you is... was that deliberate or was that an unintentional oversight?

@AutomotivePress 2 года назад

Thank you for your comment. I worked closely with Variant wheels to come up with the most aggressive stance while keeping the handling balanced. So yes, I worked out the details and chose the appropriate wheel sizes and offsets.

@gbass7328 Год назад

You didn't mention lighter weights for tires and wheels is a performance upgrade too.....

@Shep-dq6fw 2 года назад

What about BBS wheels

@lubyski 2 года назад

Is your Supra lowered?

@davidchan5402 Год назад

Did you lower you Supra? Or is that stock suspension?

@AutomotivePress Год назад

That's a stock suspension actually

@HellzHonour 5 месяцев назад

They did you dirty giving you DOT 2017 tires in 2021. Lol

@kylenewberry2598 3 года назад

Love the red center cap to match the pin stripe and brakes. Makes the accents of the brake reflector look great.

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Thank you so much!

@alb3096 Год назад

The best wheels on Supra based on my taste, maybe once the 19 inch tires are burned I might switch to these variants wheels.

@dwightbernheimer331 3 года назад

David, I must admit if you changed offset, wheels and tires I would have thought you would have done something with the suspension. Surprised it doesn't make that much of a difference. Taking into consideration how tight those tires are inside the wheel well. Maybe you have a lot better roads than we do in Glendale Arizona LOL Thanks so much for posting, great stuff

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

Thank you for your comment always! Based on my engineering investigation, I decided not to lower the suspension because that would impact the entire suspension geometry and it would only lower the ride quality. With the larger tires and wheels, I can achieve similar improvement with almost no compromises and the tires still fill the wheel wells nicely. I carefully calculated the max tires size that I can fit and making the offset as aggressive as possible - the result is that the tires stick out a bit out of the body which increases stability and they look amazing as well! Yes the roads here are pretty good!

@dwightbernheimer331 3 года назад

@@AutomotivePress Obviously you never rode with me when I had my NSX LMAO. Thanks once again for taking the time to get back to me. Your stuff is definitely the best on RU-vid. Probably cuz you're an...A.E. and everyone else is not LOL

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

@@dwightbernheimer331 Would have loved to see your NSX! My all time fav car! Thanks again for your comments!

@dwightbernheimer331 3 года назад

@@AutomotivePress bought it from the store in Greenwich Connecticut where Montel Williams bought his. Montel Williams put another $150 Grand in his... I did Not... Have to admit I was always a Corvette guy... Now at almost 80 it's boats and trucks... Thanks again David

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

@@dwightbernheimer331 Let's stay in touch!

@johnpaul5438 3 года назад

how much your supra David ?

@AutomotivePress 3 года назад

You mean how much if I were to sell it? I think it's worth about $65,000 CDN...

@saulespino2510 9 месяцев назад

Weird that the engineer didn't mention if the wheels are forged or not.

@Nightfury0695 7 месяцев назад

Variant Xenons are forged rims

@MachinegunAK 2 месяца назад

why would you not do proper winter tires if you already have two sets of summers? I'm guessing you don't drive this car in when it snows then.

@AutomotivePress 2 месяца назад

I don't drive this in snow and we hardly get snow here in the westcoast

@MachinegunAK 2 месяца назад

@@AutomotivePress that's fair if its not your daily driver. Great choice in wheels by the way. It fits the style of the car perfectly.

@user-og3ys8qw5i 3 года назад

真不错，在中国大陆，supra被相关利益集团卖出了高价

@VedantPundir Год назад

Damn!!! I thought Jackie Chan started vlogging 🤦🏽‍♀️

@AutomotivePress Год назад

Ha ha, maybe I am secretly related to him!

@zcmdzpp127 2 года назад

Porsche? 911 or cayman…rear engine/mid engine not likely..but your Supra looks nice..

@JohnDoe-ut3sz 2 года назад

you should change your name to BUNTA

@abel5763 2 года назад

Can you please kindly explain how does increasing the wheel size from 19 to 20 considered an upgrade in your over 35 years of automotive engineering experience ? By doing so, Wouldn't it cause the car to ride harsher due to thinner tyre sidewall tyres? Also, bigger rims and tyres would naturally mean more unsprung weight which means slower acceleration. Lastly, larger wheels mean higher centre of gravity.

@PremiumUserUltra Год назад

That would make sense if all wheels weighed the same lol

@fmartin59 Год назад

@@PremiumUserUltra the person literally just using basic physics concepts. 😂

@kevinj1229 2 месяца назад

This guy keeps saying he has how much automotive experience….😅 but the video just shows he bought a set of budget 20-inch wheels and fairly old PS4S tyres. When he says aggressive summer tyres I thought it would be AR1 or AD08R sort of things but PS4S…..😅😅😅