This One Tip Will Get You CLEAN 120fps On SONY FX30 

Yep exactly. Thank you

It’s not the double frame rate but the the doubled shutter speed that darkens the image. You guys don’t have shutter angle😆 but you still have to double the shutter speed. If there’s not a lot of movement you can leave the shutter speed where it is. 180 degree shutter is more motion blur.

You are allowed to slow down the shutter. You don’t have to stick to 180° all the time.

The FX30 also has a huge crop at high frame rates.

Thank you Craig, very kind.

😁 thank you.

Thank you so much. Yeah I really appreciate getting to the point 👍🏾👍🏾

Thanks for letting me know it was useful and I hope it’s helpful to you in the future.

Thank you, much appreciated.

Ahhh thank you man. I keep hearing you don't need to overexpose anymore but I just can't get it to work in high frame rates and I've tried many times.

No probs, thank you. Please try it...it's really good.

Thank you so much 🙏🏾

Hey, thank you for the feedback, very kind of you. I like what you said about not solving all issues but gives you some ideas. The truth is, every situation is different so we need different approaches to working with light...even with a full frame sensor.

Awesome, I hope it works out for you 🙌🏾

Agree

No probs mate, thanks for the feedback 👍🏾👍🏾

Ohhh the famous Tulsa 🙌🏾 Yeah it is quite obvious and thank you.

Thank you Phoebe 😀🙌🏾 don't worry too much, it happens to all of us. I bet you're beating yourself up over it but I'm sure you can get it looking acceptable in post.

My pleasure and Thank you for your comment.

Thank you Randy, it's always good to see m users watching other vids. The funny thing is....I use this same technique on my m. I push it just to point before it's over exposed and the images become clean. It's a bit harder because I don't like to go above 400iso but the same rules still apply 🙌🏾

@@Altcine same here I don’t ever want to go above 400 iso. Good to see you making more content and having your following grow. I have yet to add more content to my channel but I’ll get there. Keep pushing for “likes” too, I came in around 1,000 views and there was only 77 likes or so. We need to be better as viewers sometimes.

@@grippyda2851 sorry man this is my other account! lol

That's true bro, very true

Thank you for commenting. Yes false colour is definitely the best way and agree it's best for accuracy. Please do check out the faster lenses as they make so much difference to day or night time shooting.

Thank you for the comment and I really hope this video helps.

No probs mate, hope it works for you too.

Thank you 🙌🏾

No probs 🙌🏾

35mm is one of my favourite focal lengths as it's so versatile. I saw some AF tests and I strongly agree with you regarding it's performance.

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No probs, Thank you 🙌🏾

Thanks bro. It's not always necessary...it's a thing you have to judge depending on the scene. Definitely not if you have lots of bright lights or harsh sun.

Thank you. You can increase shutter to let in more light but it will affect the way the image looks so it depends what look you're going for. Honestly I'd say stick to the natives and use fast lenses but you can experiment.

Yes it's so obvious bro. Am I too much in your face 😅 noted, I'll go wider next time for sure. Yeah those shots came out great. It's for a music video that's about to be released. Was my first time using the SLR magic anamorphot 40 on a project and I'm pleased with the results.

@@Altcine Yeah look really boujee ! For the shot that because Im really closed to a 4K 32" monitor so Its really in front of me litterally haha

😂😂 ok cool

@@Altcine 😂 that's so funny. I noticed the shot being pretty close too but I'm a guy who doesn't mind being face to face with people (I don't strongly dislike) in real life, so 🤷🏻. But yeah, people who need more space might actually be uncomfortable watching a continuous close shot like this haha. But again, I don't mind and I don't think it's wrong per se. I actually like it now that I think about it, feels more personal. Also I'm watching it on my phone. Hard to get intrusive when you're literally the size of a hamster.

You are welcome!

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My friend swears by his Lumix cams too. He has quite a few from GH5s upwards and always shoots on them.

Isnt it a full frame camera, maybe it woild be fair if you compared it to a7siii or smt

Fx30 is crop but a7s3 applies noise reduction in high iso

Thanks for commenting 🙌🏾

My pleasure

Thank you

Hi, Whilst the colour bit depth is higher on the eos-m it really is no comparison to the fx30. The fx30 has superb image, works flawlessly and tons of great features that help to simplify shooting. The m is a very cheap cam capable of great things when you have good lighting but for more complex shooting it might not be so easy. Plus all footage needs transcoding etc. I would still buy it because it can get the job done but it does come with caveats.

That's impossible to say as all interiors will vary in available light. Also at +2 stops, you risk blowing out your highlights of the windows. I always say that you have to test methods yourself and then you'll know wether to expose at 1, 1.7 or 2

Thank you, I will search him and check it out for sure. Always up for learning more tips so appreciate the detailed comment.

@@Altcine youre welcome! Yes, check it out because it blew my mind and had to try it myself and i couldnt believe it

We are pal and I shoot in 25,50 & 100 only.

@@Altcine nice one thank you

I think only in NTSC

I have used Nd filter indoors for talking head when I wanted to keep aperture wide open but I don't use it often. Just depends on what the desired look is

I don't think the downsampling works at all on 1080p, the quality isn't that great imo. I'd rather use the most heavily compressed 4k and render the final in 1080p.

Yes this is correct and you'll see this on so many other cams too. It's important to keep the sensor cool to avoid this. For example, on the original Blackmagic pocket camera Vs the micro, the micro was a lot less noisy because the fan is cooling the the boards and sensor. It's something a lot of people overlook when comparing the fx30 Vs the new ZVE1.

Yeah I'm not sure either. Inside is difficult but not impossible but I still think people shouldn't bash it because they bought the wrong camera. I think a lot of people don't realise that in a7siii and other Sony hybrids that there's tons of noise reduction going on and they try to compare s35 to ff.....it's mad.

@@AltcineI think that's the case in many situations. People are trying to find reasons why they may or may not have made the wrong purchase without taking into account the different sensors. I knew that I wouldnt have the same low light performance but I also knew that I wouldn't be shooting much in low light.

For upto 100fps I use Kingston v90 for anything higher I use Pergear cf-express A. I did a review on them recently very affordable.

@@Altcine thank you

Hmmm, it depends. It's definitely not a NO light camera but can do well in streets etc at night if you have some fast lenses like f1.4 The thing about traveling is you usually want to travel light and that means a zoom lens is the best option but I think they only come in at around f2.8 I think you'll find some decent travel videos shot on the fx30 but remember that people only share the best shots. I personally would look elsewhere if it was just for travel.

@@Altcine thanks! I want to film family, mini docs for work (school teacher), sports, and travel! Was looking at canon r8 but felt fx30 may be best for my needs. Open to suggestions. And if you think fx30 is a good buy for needs curious what lens you’d suggest

You definitely can do all of that, just pick wisely when to use sLog3 Vs cinetone. You can go slightly higher than the 2500iso but you will need to use noise reduction. I suggest getting the sigma 1.4 primes. I got the 16mm & 30mm for £390 used in great condition and I use them for nearly all my work. I highly suggest you pick up the 16mm just for lowlight. The clear image zoom works well if you want to punch in without much loss of quality if it's too wide but please get that lens first. I see a lot of people complaining about low light then I find they have f2.8 lens which is mostly great but you definitely will need more at night.

@@Altcine love it! So any f stop during the day or well lit places and 1.4 or faster primes for low light. T artisans has fast f stop I think.

Yeah that's right. I actually use a cheap kit zoom in the daytime for certain shots and that f3.5 to f5.6 I actually forgot to ask about manual focus lenses. If you're ok with that then there's soooo many more options.

Thank you 😅 I don't know what's worse reading bad language or hearing it 🙈 I've only tried Dci 4k but only a couple times when trying anamorphic. I'm going to safely assume the that the rules still apply as it's the sensor we're talking about.

The scene I'm holding the flamethrower is 100p. The ones in my garden I actually say they are 100p. I didn't put it in text because I said it vocally. EDIT are you saying it didn't look like it because of how slow it is? If yes, it's because I edited this on a 50fps timeline and only slowed the clips 50%. It doesn't matter how much you slow it down, the quality is still the same. Just try my method when you have time.

I'm actually glad you said this as it means my method is good 😁

@@Altcine Thanks for the response. The garden footage does look fairly clean and detailed, the night time flamethrower looks clean but unfortunatly not very detailed, like it's 720p or something. I was going to get an FX30 but ended up getting the A7SIII since I really wanted to have clean 120p for wildlife. Since your method demands a very low aperature, it might not work on a telephoto lens. Would be nice to see if you can get it clean on a telephoto (400 ~ 600mm lens) however.

No probs, yeah the flamethrower was a recycled download from my other video using an online downloader. It's a clip from my Sony fx30 cinematic beast video. The a7s3 is still fantastic till this day and honestly, I would say to most people to pick it up before any crop sensor if you aren't doing studio productions and lighting. So in this scenario I think you made the right choice.

@@Altcine thanks! It's nice to see a video that actually addresses the fx30's 120p issues - I find it hard to even find decent example clips. If Sony could address the issues with 100/120p on the fx30, with perhaps a firmware update, then I would definatley consider it - since a crop sensor is great for wildlife. I say this becuase even the GH6 has super clean 4k 120p and its sensor is even smaller! So it can be done. Anyway, thanks for posting!

I replied thinking it was canon but it's FX30 lol Camera settings, they changed all the time depending on what and where I'm shooting. Far to many variables to give a definitive setting.

@@Altcine You may just say: S-Cinatone / ISO 640 ..etc.. Stating ISO is important as all the talk about FX30 is about how grainy footage you get using certain ISOs .... That will give viewer better idea what settings produce what results. Thx!

@@elmono3939 yeah that's true. It says on the screen that I'm in CineEi so there's only 2 iso values but I guess people could miss that.

I think in PAL mode you'll only see 100fps max. In NTSC it'll show up. I think you can go higher in pal if you use S&Q mode but you will capture and playback in slow motion and it won't have any sound.

@@Altcine Are you saying when I capture in NTSC, it will not capture audio, say if I go 120 frames per second and NTSC mode? please advise. Thanks

I think that's because the a6400 doesn't have a bsi sensor (I'm guessing) but bsi sensor do perform better. I think for you the best bet is to stay at a very low iso but I know this will be very challenging in certain lighting situations. The same applies to fx30. You can get noise free hfr in normal pp with low iso but then you sacrifice the dynamic range and the goodness of sLog3 cine...the reason most people choose the camera. I'm confused by the P too. You can see it when I'm talking, like I almost feel like I'm not sure. Really need to go back to saying just FPS.

@@Altcine Thanks 👍🏻 I know the a6400 isn’t quite the right camera for the kind of quality I’m after but I’m also really hesitant to change it just yet when I think what I really would be needing is an A7SIII or FX3 but the FX3 price is almost insane for what I do. A lot of the time I just use a GoPro 11 🤣 because it does all I want it just lacks the top end quality of a decent lens camera. I have a BMPCC4K which is amazing picture quality but it’s honestly too big a rig to use most of the time which is why I reverted to the a6400 for trialling the GoPro replacement. I’m not a film maker either so it could get out of hand really easily but I just want a wider than APSC FOV (MFT with Speedbooster isn’t enough) with minimal distortion, 4k 100fps in a small package that I don’t have to rig out too much 🤣 Regarding the “P” I’m glad I’m not the only one I thought I was going mad 😜 👍🏻👊🏼

Although I think it’s probably going to have to be an FX3 not sure it’s wise to invest in the A7SIII at this point 😬

Because 60p and 60i are different things, even though the frame rate is the same.

@@Tugela60 I don’t think any RU-vidr or film maker who doesn’t work in broadcast television is going to be thinking in terms of interlaced, so I can’t see that being the reason.

Sirui Nightwalkers and Snipers are all F1.2

Thank You😊

Hey I just watched this and this wouldn't work for me. Shooting at that low an iso and crushing the dynamic range is the opposite of why I brought the camera. It's interesting that he says you should never shoot hfr in cineEi 🤔 it's absolutely fine to do this as long as you have the right gear, lenses, light conditions etc. If you don't have the right stuff then his way will work but then that would make the image very standard looking.

@@Altcine Sure. For basic shots, the other technique can work. But, if you want to color grade, etc., then yes you want more control.

@@Altcine I'm not an expert, but in my tests, I don't think you're actually losing dynamic range, you're just shifting where the dynamic range is allocated. In fact, I get exactly the same results shooting in ISO 200 as I do shooting in Cine EI base 800 at 200 EI (for example). Sony has a chart illustrating how the allocation of dynamic range shifts as you change EI values, but I really think changing the ISO has the same effect. Blackmagic Design has a similar chart, but instead of EI, which it obviously doesn't have, it shows how the stops of dynamic range shift with the ISO. I don't know if that made any sense but I'm working on a video about it now 🤞

Hey Phillip, I will definitely watch your video to get a clearer understanding of what you mean. I think it comes down to how you grade so if the pictures are a standard conversion like in this video then I gues they would look the same. Again, I'll definitely watch your vid for more insights 🙌🏾

Yeah that's one way. Depending on the location you will sacrifice Dynamic range but I guess it would be clean. I've started using Flexible iso in dark places now with lower iso and it does work well....image just looks a bit crushed though.

You don't know what variable shutter is for?

@@Altcine you don’t know the minimum shutter for 120fps?

@@NewsMoto I know, I'm just asking you if you know know what variable shutter is for! To answer your question, I was filming somewhere the day before and I had issues with the lighting so I had to adjust the shutter and didn't change it for this video because it wasn't relevant to what I was talking about. Double the framerate is always advised but you don't always have to stick to it.

@@NewsMoto anyway, it's irrelevant. Let's just stick to the topic of the video please. Thanks

Solid camera

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Absolutely! It actually simplifies using the cam. I believe the fx30 has the same iso values as the Venice.

@@Altcine yes it does!

Thought so 👍🏾👍🏾