This Planet is Hiding a Complete Nightmare (Ahsoka is the key) 

Right, that would be a lot more of the thrawn I grew up with. Not some weird and alone imperial warlord desperately trying to cling on to power with a zombie army.

I agree

Not only that but I also think that the mineral used to patch the hull of the chimaera serve a similar warding function as well

@@repoman182 This turning into a semi horror story would be sick tbh.

I'm starting to believe the zombie army look was a deliberate red herring.

yesss

the return of the pragmatic Thrawn, rather than the over the top cartoon villain thrawn would be brilliant.

​@@Reoh0zRebels Thrawn wasn't cartoonishly evil, but he WAS working for a cartoonishly evil Emperor. So his pragmatism made him cartoonishly evil when dealing with the quickly organizing rebellion. Pragmatic people can be mistaken for evil even when they're good. Sometimes you have to do something evil to accomplish something good. Don't get me wrong. Thrawn is a bad guy, but even if he is evil, he's not the campy, cartoonishly evil sort, like his old boss. Thrawn thinks he's the good guy, Papa Palpatine had no such delusion.

To make it a good story, this almost has to happen. We know that neither Ashoka nor Thrawn will be foiled in thee season finale. Both have to survive and Thrawn in particular has to continue to pose a threat. So to make the finale have impact, something needs to come along so dangerous that Ashoka et al, choose to deal with it at the cost of Thrawn making it back. What ever it is, I suspect it will come from Baylan's arc...

The glorious curveball that would be would be insane. I can only image what the movie would be about and how Luke would be involved in an obvious galactic threat like this. What would be thrawns role

Damn that's too much

that needs to be a deleted scene

Oh shit please no

I like how you think.

The only thing capable of killing so many space whales is Uncle Itchy

Baylan played a n amazing role

He has that same stoicness that Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon and Dooku had in a very very Star Wars way.

@@CorvusReddYou nailed it!

If any disney creator is going to do it my money is on dave

@@GenerationTech agreed. And when they do bring her into Canon, I imagine that the animation they will use to bring her to life will be the stuff of nightmares. Anyone who has learned information about Abeloth or read the novels will have a good idea of what she's capable of.

@@GenerationTech same. Let's all pray for it to happen, because if it does the franchise will really enter a whole new phase

@@princeofpokemon2934 imagine Shin with that creepy smile

@@tufab3494 I won't be sleeping tonight lol...

If the cast in "canon" say the word "legends", then does that make legends canon?

@@orokusaki1243 I wouldn't necessarily say it's like that. I think Filoni just uses word "legends" as some kind of hint for viewers. But Kujet is mentioned on the wall with Zeffo texts so it might be Zeffo after all who knows.

Abeloth is code for Kaffeine Ken-needy.

Love the idea of the Zeffo imprisoning or helping keep her imprisoned. Makes me curious how the witch kingdom came to be on this planet too

@@catcherboy96 It could also be Revan not Abeloth. Revan is powerful af in Legends and his power in Canon is maybe the same. On Wookiepedia about Revan it says that "Since the history of the Sith was kept hidden from the galaxy, only Sith cultists knew the significance of Revan's name." which could mean that he is the "legend" for most people this age. Filoni wanted to put Revan in clone wars once, but it was scratched at the last time. Revan would still be more powerful than anyone at that era, but he wouldn't be as powerful as Abeloth.

There’s loads of examples to be honest. Disney for their hatred of the EU, sure love taking ideas from it.

​@stephen8805 Disney isn't the one creating the content, that's why. They're just a parent company, they handle production and marketing. And they don't hate EU? That just doesn't make sense

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@@williamheath7058what on earth are you trying to say

As Ahsoka said in another Filoni proyect: there are truths in lengends.

Skoll or skull or Death Hati or hades Shining priest is melchezidek or Jesus and the bride is the church. Same story in the bible where death and hades chase the bride of christ

​@@turinrezaThat's a huge ass stretch, mate.

​@@turinrezaExcept It's really Sköll and Hàti which is not even close to English and loosly means in old Norse the one who mocks and the one who hates. They devour Sol and Mani/ the sun and moon during Ragnarok, the doom of the gods. Good theory Baylon brings on some big bad.

Totally.

I saw that too! It’s actually nearly the exact same shot as used in opening to Prometheus. They had to have used same location in Iceland. (You can spot that valley in a variety of movies and shows. It’s commonly used for alien or magical landscapes like Glencoe Scotland)

Someone's gotta rebuild the darksaber 🤷‍♂️ He seems to be a good counterpart, a tie to her Jedi past, the token droid for the story. I agree that the story Baylon is focusing on he probably heard from Huyang, and Huyang is most likely telling that very story to Ahsoka during episode 6, so she will most likely be aware of what he may be up to when she arrives.

He's just there to exposition dump when we get Abeloth or whatever

So there’s this story thing called a “frame”…and Lucas always intended that experiences and testimonies of stories would be recorded and told by droids, in universe. Huyang is fulfilling the role of the “frame”. How do we know any of these things “happened”? Who’s passing these stories on to us? As unbiased as possible droids. 😉

Huyang is pretty important for the character dynamics. Ahsoka and Sabine need someone who is a more traditional Jedi associate, to contrast their being so thoroughly un-traditional Jedi. Also to have a "rational" figure amongst our other protags who are all pretty headstrong and impulsive. Huyang hasn't done much physically, but he's a necessary foil to the others. The show would be significantly worse off without him

Yes, but I feel a lot of what Huyang has done up to know could have as easily been done with a new droid, which is more the Star Wars way of doing things - K2SO in Rogue One and L3-37 in Solo. Nothing so far has needed Huyang specifically and the awkward question of how they teamed up post Order 66.

Shin Hati... Hati is the wolf that chases the moon in norse myth. You might be onto something here

@@vikrantpulipati1451skoll chases the Sun and Hati chases the moon until Ragnorok occurs when they consume both. In Clone Wars, The Son killed the Daughter, and then the Father upon which Anakin killed the Son. The Daughter became Ashoka, and Anakin took the place of the Son. Ashoka is practically a Grey Jedi now, capable of wielding both the light and the dark, so I believe that Ashoka takes on the position of the Father. Taking into account the Norse mythos, Skoll would take on the place of the Daughter, and Hati would take on the blacks of the Son. Skoll saying he wishes to end the cycle echos the Son, but could likely be a reference to him seeking to end Abeloth whose BPD type feelings send ripples through the force resulting in instability thus imbalance. I believe the Ragnorok event is when Ashoka, Skoll, and Hati team up to end Abeloth in the same way Naruto, Sasuke and the girl ended Kaguya. But another possibility is Skoll, while investigating the planet unleashed Abeloth and dies, which would match the actors real life death. His real death is unfortunate, and on the context of the show complicates the writing as he’s already been casted, creating a black swan event which Filoni will have to get around.

​@@NarasimhaDiyasenaActually it's pretty clear now that Anakin is more like the One (as in greater than even the Father). Ahsoka is more like the Daughter, but due to her life experience has gone beyond just the Light. And since Anakin is not in the physical world anymore, Ahsoka essentially takes his place as the Chosen - while his children (Luke and Leia) deal with their own issues.

@@NarasimhaDiyasenashe can’t wield both and she doesn’t wield both she very rarely uses any emotions to fuel her not to mention grey Jedi don’t exist and Anakin is the only person capable of taking the role of the father

@@wkdxcrimex Grey Jedi couldn't exist under George, that much is true. It's an open question under Disney, and Filoni has brought us characters like the Bendu. Baylan comes VERY close to some people's description of one. I fully agree that Ahsoka is NOT one though. Ahsoka being "No Jedi" is more of a technicality than anything else.

I didn’t know that Noooo he was great

Im guessing due to they have to change the series ending to. (OR recast which would just suck)

@@Rckstrroma5 RIP Ray Stevenson he will be sorely missed 😪

​@abyssus9304 If Baylan was meant to go beyond this season, then I think he should be recast, since an abrupt ending would be very awkward (story wise). If he's meant to not last Beyond this season, then his demise will work very well in the story.

It's been bittersweet the whole season through. Thank you Ray. 🥀

Or just a millisecond of screen time cuz then everything’s all over if it’s Abeloth…

Totally shipping Sabine and Shin. Also, someone made a fan edit of Shin turning into Abeloth, the “mother” of the mortis god family, check it out, it’s incredible, and horrifying…

Ya, in legends this character truly is unrivaled in her darkness and power.

Sad thing is I prefer the old version of Abeloth, which more cooler and honestly extreme. The Maw. The site of a massive cluster of black holes all arranged around a particular location, hence the Center is called the Maw. And she’s sealed in there. That’s the original lore I remember.

@@sphere117gaming I personally do not think this is Abeloth. The "trapped by black holes" thing is too epic to not include it.

The series of novels that deals with Abeloth's return to the galaxy and Luke eventually being able to re-imprison her (albeit with some assistance) is one of the best examples of just how incredibly god-tier Legends' Jedi Grandmaster Luke Skywalker was. His power and ability as a Jedi/lightsaber duelist was pretty much off the charts compared to anyone else in movies/books/games up to that point, because he had to be that powerful to defeat Abeloth. And I'm a child of the 1980s so I personally love seeing Luke be OP as can be, but with that said... If this ends up being Abeloth, I would be very curious to see where it goes and how powerful she ends up being, because given the sequel trilogy and where it is in the timeline, it makes me wonder who deals with her, how, and when... not to mention, how much time does this conflict last?

The episode itself had a very atmospheric vibe of *cosmic horror,* which to me is freakin awesome. Can’t believe Star Wars is might get this dark, but after a bunch of stale releases, I’m so ready for them to crank it up a notch!

yeah honestly i wouldn't spring the abeloth theory unless this were ahsoka's show there's gotta be a reason why they've kept her alive for so long

@@GenerationTech Agreed.

​@@GenerationTechYeah, snips has had so many near death encounters. Like... She goes toe to toe with Grevious as a Padawan and lives. She doesn't beat him. Doesn't even land a blow. But a 14 year old girl managed to survive an attack from an expert Jedi killer. Then she went toe to toe with Maul. A Sith Assassin who trained his entire life to kill Jedi. And Ventress. Jedi trained, Sith trained, Nightsister, certified badass. But still couldn't kill her. The Vader. Motherfucking Darth Vader misses the kill on her. The MOST prolific Jedi killer in over a thousand years misses his mark on someone he personally trained. Then Palpatine. She survived an attack from Darth Sidious, when he blasted force lighting (force blue flames?) Through a portal into the World between Worlds... And she gets away from that, too. And then yeah that long swim after being knocked off the cliff? Speaking of, how did Balin not kill her there? Did he really just hit her lightsaber that hard that she fell? I'm pretty sure that shouldn't work... You generally kill people by running your lightsaber through a part of their body. So she survived two deaths there. Three, really. The strike, the fall then the drowning. Any one of them should have killed her. Ashoka should have been dead a thousand times over. Easily. Any other Jedi would have bitten it by now. There's luck, then there's having a guardian angel sitting on your shoulder.

@@GenerationTech It's almost as if the Force REFUSES to let her die because there's something important she needs to do in her life.....

The past is the prologue. A lot of esoteric art alludes to it at some point imo. The premise being like an ouroboros, the end is the beginning and the beginning an end. What’s new is actually really old. It’s one of the beauties of Star Wars’ aesthetic. Skoll even states he wants to go to the beginning to create an end. Filoni is a G for this. Telling a really old story as a new chapter in the series is par for this course.

Excellent use of the word gaolers

No

Oof, would be most unfortunate

​@@michaela8426 Maybe, maybe not

Maybe a 'vessel' for the disembodied spirit of the Big Bad ? Reminds me of Sigourney Weaver and Full in the original Ghostbusters ;-) ... Filoni and his wolves ?!?!?!

Doubt it. His Jedi origins would influence him not to. Also, occult related activity is in the domain of sorcerers like Sidious, the Night Sisters, and the old republic era Dread Masters. An occult sacrifice would be too R rated for Disney as well.

Dark Lord jAR jAR

interesting theory

I still think it's just to help hold together their plastoid armor. That sh*t isn't exactly meant to be high-quality, and they've been living in a wasteland for over a decade, so who knows how diffucult it would be to keep that armor from just falling apart.

@@occam7382 True

It does look like Minas Tirith

Well you'd hope so else the entire pod is dead on arrival just to get ahsoka there? Or.... plot convenience... oh look we just happen to have enough whales to fight Thrawns other ships or the Vong or whatever.

Shell probably look like Kathleen Kennedy

The Zeffo runes are probably just an Easter Egg. I think it would be too obvious and wouldn’t make sense for them to be what’s calling to Baylan.

@mjjfilms4597 For me it would make no sense to have the Night Mothers working for some Zeffo chump. But it would make PERFECT sense for an all female cult of force witches to be disciples of THE MOTHER.

@@elketerbentzadik It would make sense for where they get their power and why they believe in the fanged god and winged goddess, but not the Father. The Son and Daughter kept Abeloth from escaping and the Dathomiri saw them as their gods.

This explains why they're still here and also why they want to leave so badly all of a sudden. Aboleth is going to want to thank her hosts.

that be sick still haven't seen Luke yet hopefully tho but They should have the combined power to defeat her

i just hope they don't copy to much from Tolkien the Ashoka the gray to white seems to rip off to me, just my opinion tho

Something or SOMEONE might have drained most of the life from Peridea, Something/Someone must have destroyed the Greak Kingdom of the Nightsisters. Who's to say the Dathomirian's rode the Purgil to the Star Wars Galaxy simply to get away from that something/someone that destroyed their kingdom. It may be a theory but I think we can guess just what or WHO the cause of this might be. Thrawn could very well be the least of our heroes' worries.

Vessel for what?

@@psychoactive4441 Not for what. For who?

Nah they've been replaced by the grysk

They're the Grysk now and it would make sense, since Thrawn was wanting to get the rest of the Galaxy prepped against them (and his people).

Nah the Vong don’t have the force so they wouldn’t be able to call out to Baylan

i dont think well see the dong

Or that spirit dude that was trapped in Star Trek V (shudders).

congo our editor definitely put a lot of work in this one

​@@GenerationTech ​Aah roger roger (of course with em droid voice) ^^ *Raises hat to Congo for nice creativity & work* 🤠 to your bueno talks & shout out for the Republic 🗳☑ Good week week 🖖🍵🥪🍎🧆