The pre-order phase has ended and this is just a short and quick big thank you to all for the incredible support - it has been a 3+ year process to develop these pedals (obviously it is the end result of finding out stuff with R7 & Thera), we are super happy with the pedals - time will tell if you feel the same. And we can not leave without mentioning the incredible footage by Dan - you just keep upping your game, the footage / visuals are sublime. I would call you a wizard if I would believe in such things. All the best, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE°
This is going to shake up the other companies. Always nice seeing small companies getting out well done and designed hardware for, in this case, a very much competitive or even unbeatable price
Hi, There's a few comments asking for the shipment schedule (and probably quite a lot more interested in this), understandably. Maybe it's better to cover those in a separate comment, rather than to answer to every individual comment. Hopefully this way this will reach more people. And sorry for not responding here earlier - we're super busy getting the pedals out of the door. We will update the text on the product soon, but here's the best estimates we currently can give. And estimates are always really difficult, but we assure you that we've doing all we can to speed things up here all the time. We have some great time savings coming up on our process, so hopefully these would enable us to get even ahead of this schedule. We can't really promise this (also negative things can always happen, fingers crossed), but we are hopeful things will get a lot easier for us here, and thus enable you all to get the pedals faster - still, apologies for the long wait and thank you for the patience, it is appreciated a lot. Estimated shipping schedule for orders: 5400 - 5500: shipped 5500 - 5600: week 21 (done and dusted) 5600 - 5700: weeks 22 - 23 5700 - 5800: weeks 23 - 24 5800 - 5900: weeks 24 - 25 5900 - 6000: weeks 25 - 26 6000 - 6100: weeks 25 - 26 6100 - 6200: week 26 Best regards, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE°
Sometimes there are people who can think outside the box. Not just creating really good pedals, but to do that with competetive price in Finland. And for those who dont know, Finland isnt cheap country to manufacture anything even on eu standards. Great feel, Great price, and also compact size of pedals is important to some of us.
After reading through all the comments by Simgrade that are addressing concerns and already listing improvements for the final version that will ship to consumers, I have no doubt that I made the right choice to pre-order these. I can't wait to get them.
@@trevorbelmont4633 All pre-orders (and after) will have the change for the brake bearings (that roll on the LC) There will be 4x bearings with no flanges, and they will be moved inwards a bit to have them sit fully on the load cell. Br, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE°
Thanks! Looks super solid. Secured mine view days ago using your link. 0 reviews from other channels so I take your word for it that they're actually good :D
The clutch bite point customization reminds me of the use of cams in high-end joysticks, very nice. Pre-ordered the double pedal set last week with all the options. Great to have your first impression, thanks!
Just received mine Dan! Thank you so much for showing this to us man, 3 months waiting and when I opened that box, oh mate this thing has insane build quality, here we see form over design and design ends up being pretty fucking amazing, i made the jump from a T-LCM Pedals and man i'm speechless,. But i'll confess, when i saw the simagic P1000 with haptic feedback a few weeks I got excited, that looks great for the price, but my impression is that this VX-PRO's will last for AGES, everything that moves is in ball bearings, I never thought I would be able to buy stuf of this quality for an honest price. Dan, queep giving us insights on this amazing products and smaller companies, lets drive up this competition.
I’ve just ordered my set. I’m having a bit of a nightmare trying to download and install the calibration software on to my pc. Any advice please would be appreciated.
Happy you got this first look in before pre-order ended. Seeing them in action and your initial thoughts convinced me. Buying the 2 pedal set (clutch looks like a great design but can't remember last time I used the one I have).
Just ordered these based on these impressions. Switching from TLC-M. These VX Pro's look really good, especially for the price. Gotta support Simgrade for it. Thank you for the video Dan!
Having used these for about 6 weeks now, I'm very impressed with the set. Haven't even explored the multiple different adjustment options but I got used to them fairly quickly. The brake pedal makes the biggest difference for me. I had mounted my TLCM on my P1X with Thrustmaster adapters but I feel they were rather poor, too much flex making the TLCM underused. The VX-pro's mounted directly to my pedalplate are much stiffer and when muscle memory adapted, more precise and easier to bleed off the brakes/trail brake. It'll depend on your driving style also but I'm very satisfied personally. I'm mostly impressed with the immaculate build quality. Simgrade didn't cut corners despite delivery delays and it shows in the shipped product. The throttle has a load-cell as well so finding a comfortable pressure point might take some time to get used to. The software is fine and adjustments are easily made. I have yet to really find the best position/setting for the clutch so can't really comment on that yet. Overall I'm really satisfied although I have no other pedalset to compare it to besides the TLCM. I had the pre-order discount when I ordered mine. @@novantium3760
@@S2GUnit I think there's definitely an improvement in laptimes, but mostly overall feeling and thus driveability. Trailbraking is easier for instance. I'm generally faster than before but that could also be experience gain. Difficult to really measure. These VX-Pro pedals allow for better consistency imho but most good loadcell brakepedals will do that.
Thanks Kenny for the nice comment - that is actually what we're trying to achieve here, we are also simracers and know exactly what you're talking about :) - Br, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE°
@DanSuzuki Thanks for getting this out. Great to see new products so soon, and all the reviews you are doing. Content is great, to the point with your dry sarcasm thrown in here and there :) Keep doing what you doing mate. Any plans for a CubeControls SP01 review coming soon ?
Love it, when there is more competition on the market. Always a positive for the customers. 💪 When I see this and the Moza Eco System for example…; this should bring more opponents to the track! 🥳😊
Well I'm sold, gonna go buy them. Main thing was the brake, never really got on my HE Sprint brake pedal with the elastomers and had been waiting to try out the VRS as I think I'd get on better with a spring brake but at this price I can't say no. Cheers Dan 👍
Just ordered one set thanks to your recommandations! Nice savings for my end. I’ll now wait for the full review to be sure! It was time I departed from these CSL pedals😅 Thanks again for putting us up. 💜
The clutch design is awesome.. looking at a lot of different set ups i always wonder how the clutch feels. having driven different manual cars over the years a hydraulic clutch has a different feel then a Direct link clutch , take like an 86 supra Vs a 66 mustang with a 4 speed, what they did with those ramps makes so much sense to get that clutch brake or spring grab
I'm really trusting your impressions and comments here and I pre-orderd just now. Having just come back to the sim racing scene after a five year break I need some good pedals, but don't want to spend a thousand dollars, if you say these are better than sprints, then I'm sold.
Dan for sure seems to be upping his game all the time - will it ever stop? :) Sorry I had to comment, Dan is doing a great service for the simracing community providing this level of footage, kudos - Br, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE°
I was sold until I saw the wear from the bearing rolling on the load cell with some shavings there. It looked like it couldn't take much more. I think I'd still buy them though. Easy fix.
@@DanSuzuki Yes indeed - this will not happen on the customer pedals. I also noticed this on the close up, and we will assemble the customer brake pedals with 4x those bearings that have no flange --> this will allow us to also space them inwards, thus giving 2mm more load carrying surface on the bearings. This will benefit the bearings lifetime wise too. Well spotted @damianmalka3834 :)
@@kosketi81 That is great news because it looked like a flawed design to me ! @Dan Suzuki, please make this part of the final review ! And also the heel support.
@@kosketi81 I'm glad to know you're improving that. My idea was to use a longer cylindrical bearing that mounts on both sides and makes contact with the whole surface. like a rolling pin on dough! but I don't even know if they exist. I'm sure your solution will work well.
Just ordered this based on your firs impressions mate, at the retail price of 547€, upgrading from a T-LCM to pair with my Simagic Alpha. Was about to pull the trigger in the HE Sprints but this looks really insane for the price, even without the pre-order discount, hope they will serve me for many years. Thanks for bringing this product to our attention, your content is top notch! Cheers!
They are FOR SURE. Look at the shake up of DD wheel base prices when Fanatec announced their CSL DD. These companies have tacked on a 100-200% markup for sure, and have been loving it while the hobby was much smaller pre-covid.
Yup, 100%. Bought my HE Sprints a few years ago, knowing full well that the price is about double what it should be, if it was in a more competitive niche. Glad to see more competition as well as solid innovations at this price point.
I ordered 3 pedal set. I wasnt even searching for pedals but when i saw your video i changed my mind. Looks just too good to skip. Also its made in finland so its domestic for me and that was nice bonus. Cant wait to receive my set of pedals. I have Thrustmaster T-LCM now so i think its nice uprage and probably will keep those pedals for many years. Im super hyped! Nice review for sure.
@@novantium3760 Huge uprage coming from tlcm. It took like 3.5months to get my pedals, because there was so many pre-orders and thats my only negative thing about this whole process. Pedals are fantastic. I like VX-PROs more than sprints or VRS pedals. In this price category these are my favorite pedals for sure.
nice, but its kinda dumb that in the thumbnail, you show 3pedal set with the price of the 2pedal set, that seems to imply that its 299 for 3. bisschen in die irre führend
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Man, I don't even have a sim rig ATM, but I sure want these pedals 😆
The pedals look good. I'm just worried about wear and tear. The rollers that run on the load cell already have a lot of wear and tear on you in the video. Metal shavings can already be seen in the video.
I recently got the vrs pedals but these look even better, especially the heal plate add on, at this price do you think getting these and selling the vrs pedals is worth it? For me the brake and throttle customisation looks great
After owning these for a few months, what is your current impression? I received mine in the mail a couple of weeks ago, but my rig is currently unavailable to mount and test, so I'd love to hear what you think after using them for a while.
I honestly dont think these are under priced. But rather the other stuff is way way over priced. I am getting back into IRacing and am shocked at the prices. Its ridiculous. I am not paying 2k for pedals for a video game. But not negative toward you, love your stuff. If these were higher I would pass on them. In this economy with everything almost doubling I cant justify it
A friend of mine LOVES them, and has no desire to upgrade unless he wins the lottery and can get the Simucube Active Pedals. He has HE Sprints before, and strongly prefers these over them.
@@glenndjenkinsHey, I'm also considering to buy a set of these pedals, but I have one concern: Will dust/dirt which definetly will come in contact with the bearing mechanism on the load cells will have a noticable influence on the performance? And in Dan's video at 2:50 it looks like there are metal shavings around the bearings. Does the bearings damage the load cell over time?
The calibration tool does not run on my computer no matter what i do. It ran once and it does not run again. There are no clear instructions on what to do and no proper response system from simgrade.
Hi @kimyoon4374 - we have addressed already this, the pedals will be delivered with different end stopper, that allows for longer throw for the throttle. Best Regards, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE°
@@kimyoon4374 Yes it's true, but there was things to figure out to know if we can make the change in time for the first deliveries. Didn't want to promise anything we couldn't know for sure.
seems like those plates for throttle end stop could be adjusted for longer throw. That short throttle throw would probably bother me a bit. I wish they could go a bit further.
We will sort this out - a longer throw will be available. Sorry I cannot yet tell you more details, but it's such an easy modification we surely will make that available some way.
It will vary a bit, depending on where on the cue you're positioned.. we were suprized by the large amount of pre-orders (thank you all again!), so to get them all shipped will take us few weeks unfortunately. But yes, the first shipments will leave this week. We hope for some patience, the pedals will be worth it :) Needless to say, we're doing our very best to ship them to you all as fast as possible, it is also in our interests. Thanks again, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE°
Ive just fitted these to my rig after seen loads of great reviews but im a little stuck atm. Ive got the brake on the softest setting but my pedal still doesnt have any travel like it does on here. Any idea why? cos i hate pushing a brick wall cos its not realistic at all.
well ive been messing with these pedals all day and i can say mine are no way as good as this vid shows. I have hardly any pedal travel the user manual is garbage and doesnt show or explain anything and the software just glitches out on me all the time and it wont even let me calibrate the pedals. Not impressed with this waste of money
It's logical that the prizes of these things dip. More and more companies make it and other ones learn from it. Development costs keep getting lower and as a result we are able to buy top notch quality stuff for a reasonable price. Saying things like "they sell it too cheap" is not something we can judge. But I understand it is based on what we already know and have seen. It's just simple economics.
Same ...... I really didn't want to buy anything more from fanatec, but always thought sprints seemed a bit too much. This price point tipped my fancy and made me splash the cash.
Intressting Pedals they look great. I put it in my pedal list for my next Upgrade. But why they write on their side on the throttle no metal to metal contact.... 🤔🤔Ball bearing to loadcell seems to me metal to metal contact or not?
need a long term review for that. definitely not worse than VRS, brake is as good or maybe even better, throttle is better because you can have higher resistance but have to see if there occur any issues in the long term, VRS are very solid regarding that.
Would love to get these pedals for the price mentioned here but they have already increased the price and shipping to the US is high. Oh well perhaps later.
@@DanSuzuki PLEASE don't forget to check this in your review with the final unit ! This is of course a deal braker if this isn't fixed in the final unit. It will break the loadcell for sure, it really looks terrible. I almost cannot believe that there are not more comments about it here because I was shocked when I saw it. I'm going to buy these pedals IF they fix this with the heel support, so please also make that part of your review.
@@turbohenk702 the design has been changed for the final units, no flanged bearings that "scrape" the loadcell any more - they switched to 4 "regular" bearings instead
@@gaming-fuel6250 - Please proceed until the checkout and select Germany as the shipment country, the price will be correct then. Br, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE° And yes, you unfortunately will have to pay taxes too, but the tax % varies a bit between countries so the end result is a bit different often.
Yes, this... Most companies are overcharging sim gear so much that it´s sad to see. I think the price is what i would consider around the avg, comparing to other pedals in the 500 euros range(ignoring Fanatec cause they still want 500+ for 7 or 8 year old models and designs). We need the pedal segment to be as competitive as the DD/wheels segment.High-end brands tend to over engineer pedals from premium single cast alummium blocks as if everyone need Formula 1 grade pedals.
dam the throw on the gas is super short. also i feel like even with the barings the face of the loadcell will ware out but most likely the loadcells will die way before that. i thought about getting these but thay are 930 cad with vat and shiping and i can see getting hit with vat again at customs wich would then make them not a good deal and thare shiping with dhl wich iv heard is like ups so add a $100 bs fee for them to do thare job that you already payed them to do.
@@SiskoMilo ho ok yeah i looked at the cart and it showed it with vat. but yeah it dosint when go to check out. honstly these are vary tempting its about the same price as the vnm pedals i was think about getting only reason i havint jumped on one of them is the lose ill be taking selling my v3 after only 8 mouths.
How is the pedal angle adjusted? Does this affect the throw distance as well? I'm wanting to pull the trigger on this TODAY, but am wondering if this has enough adjustability for my liking. Coming from the Fanatec V3's and looking for a worthy upgrade. I was initially going to buy the VRS, but the price of these is very attractive.
The angle for one pedal is adjusted by removing 2 bolts, tilting the pedal and bolting the bolts back on. All pedals can be tilted 8,5 degrees "away from the driver" (rear of the pedal downwards). Hope this helps - Br, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE°
Hi Dan, kannst du etwas über die Throttle sagen...laut Homepage kann man dort auch den Weg einstellen "Travel adjustable". Ich nutze aktuell noch die CSL elite loadcell und will endlich mal upgraden. VRS stand schon auf der Liste aber die waren mir immer zu globig. Ich montiere meine Pedale immer hängend und da wären die VX-Pro deutlich besser wegen der größeren Footplate.
hi Dan, can you tell us more about the simgrade how they are ? i‘m really interested how they compare to the vrs pedals ? i‘ve preordered the vrs, but i heard since over one month they don‘t have produce pedals 😏 because of that maybe i swith to the simgrade
Yes, you can tilt each pedals 8,5degrees "away from the driver" (lower the rear of the pedal). I hope Dan don't mind me answering some of these questions :) Br, Timo Koskela / SIMGRADE°
@@kosketi81 will you guys be releasing a tutorial video or a pdf guide of all the adjustments that can be made on the pedals? I just bought the 3 pedal set and im sure that a lot of people would appreciate a guide on all the adjustments that are possible 😊
They've already addressed this is a separate comment: "Yes indeed - this will not happen on the customer pedals. I also noticed this on the close up, and we will assemble the customer brake pedals with 4x those bearings that have no flange --> this will allow us to also space them inwards, thus giving 2mm more load carrying surface on the bearings. This will benefit the bearings lifetime wise too..."
