I built a specd 4090 and the only things that run “flawlessly” are amongus, club penguin, and Microsoft paint. Shoulda spent that money on a private investigator to find my dad.
I can understand why they do it, but you've got pre alpha for a reason. Selling a triple a game for 70 usd when it can't reach 60fps using thousands of dollars in hardware is a joke
Its funny because PC its the hardest port. You have to make a complicated software that runs decently on every possible combination of hardware that goes into a PC of atleast the last 10 years. Its harder than Charlie and people think.
@@mightymouse7498 pretty sure no one would deny that porting to PC is difficult. We're saying that if devs aren't being giving enough time/resources for this difficult task.
@@mightymouse7498 See this is 100% true, but we've seen AAA games run well on pc in the past. You *do* need to test for a lot of machines, but it feels weird that even the most common setups don't work at all, even when pc components can vary in performance in a case-by-case basis.
The way it's going, it feels like I can pay $70 to be a beta tester on release or wait a year and pay $15-30 for a patched/finished product through sales. What a time to be alive
Yeah that's how gaming are nowadays even for AAA titles... Paying $60-70 to play rarely on alpha and most commonly on beta so that there is a chance the devs actually fix their shiz. So if anyone's finding me, I'll be taking those old games on sale and just play... (Or go to the seven seas to "beta test" before actually buying a new game I had my eyes on) atleast that way I know the product I am paying for without any bs.
@@ariarimeowmeow m a y b e it seems like even those on-drop fixes even take a while to drop (and at that point the pirates still win, didnt pay nor need to wait for something to make the game playable) a n d they can keep getting updated rips- no pay minimal wait minus those with mustard ass internet
@@ariarimeowmeow Most of the time now this just isn't the case. Games like Cyberpunk or No Man's Sky take a year or more to actually fix the problems the game has or to add what was already promised. Even if you're right, though, the people who crack it will get it for free and won't have paid $70 to play a choppy, buggy, piece of shit for however long it takes them to fix it.
Actually youre mistaken about denuvo cracking. Theres barely anyone left in the piracy scene cracking denuvo games now because 1. it takes so long to do. 2. Denuvo hired half of them. So its sadly effective enough fo them to never stop using it .
I honestly hope that at some point the developers of some company decide to stand against the higher-ups and just refuse to let a game release until it’s actually ready to be.
The reasons Charlie mentioned (execs/PR pushing incomplete/unpolished games out because they've created release hype) is exactly why you get localisation issues as well. I've worked in LQA for 5 years, and I can pretty much guarantee that any time a game drops that's full of issues, it's not because nobody noticed. The deadlines are so short in the first place, that we're often told to only "bother" with major issues. Build issues causing delays are common, and there are often scores of bugs that will be left completely untouched if they don't make it into the release or day 1 patch. Indie devs/publishers are often much more reasonable and forgiving than Aaa-titles, but it really wears people down when they're not allowed to do their best work, and many leave the industry because of it, especially when they realise they're most likely not getting credited either way, whether they do a terrible job or go out of their way. It's really sad to watch
@@TheUnluckyEverydude $70?? I think only AAA games on the new generation of consoles should be $70 not a piece of shit like the Nintendo switch. I use to love Nintendo and now I hate them with a passion they step all over their community.
Just to make a correction about the state of Denuvo cracking. A few years back when Denuvo protected game were getting cracked within a month of release, a large cracker in the scene had internal test games leak out to the public. Their reverse engineering methods thus leaked, as these test builds had not obfuscated any work done by the scene. This basically amounted to losing all of their trade secrets, and Denuvo gaining great detail into how their systems were failing. However, not only did this affect the team who leaked their builds. it affected many of the methods used across the entire scene. This burned out much of the community in regards to Denuvo protected games, along with the company hiring people from it themselves. There is one person who is semi-publicly cracking Denuvo games, and that is a woman from Russia named EMPRESS. Anyone else who is creating cracks has done it in privacy. So, it isn't a "week" after release anymore it seems. Harry Potter took a couple months, and it seems so will many others.
@@khnelli4918 The funny part is that there are many instances of games improving in performance significantly after Denuvo as either been removed, or patched out via cracking. This is something on record from game developers and scene crackers alike. Not only is it negative to the consumer as a DRM, it's actually impacting the game experience and performance as a whole.
There’s a really easy way to fix a majority of issues with this: *eliminate crunch culture* Giving employees more time and letting them have a healthy work/life balance will always result in better games, even if they take a little longer
I sold my soul as a dev to work in a massive corporation. These recent bad game launches seem to be purely caused by poor management and communication. In my job, if a certain number of bugs are still active by the deployment window, the module gets postponed and a lot of people get in trouble. Im shocked that we have faced almost 10 years of bad game launches, and publishers can’t seem to figure out how to fix it.
Because like you said, it’s not the devs fault’s, it’s managements, but middle management never actually get into trouble anymore. Seems to be that way across all corporations these days where they’re full of middle managers that shouldn’t be there but they keep getting away with it
They will get their shit together when gamers stop buying these shitty releases and realize that they can go broke, but these gamers won’t do that because they like consuming shit for some reason
How bout we make it cool NOT to throw money at anything EA. The trend will catch on, investors will flip tables, and 90% of our PC gaming problems will be solved by EA's example of how to not-profit from anti-consumer business practices. *In the legendary words of Filthy Frank: "IT'S TIME TO STOP".*
Mr.Miyamoto is often attributed with a quote that still rings true, but today's corporate greed fight it. "A delayed game is eventually good. A rushed game is forever bad."
Every time Charlie says “I know all of you have already heard this”, I’m here thinking Charlie is my only source of information and I’ve never heard of this before
Im glad you mentioned the lack of storage optimization in the modern games, I feel like its a huge issue that does not get the deserved attention. You have to uninstall the universe to make space for the new Call of Duty nowdays. Edit: I don't have or play COD, I just had to choose a random mainstream game for the joke to have more impact.
It's like when your teachers tell you you need a discrete 3-ring binder for their class, as if they're the only one asking, and then you get scoliosis trying to haul a contractor bag's worth of stuff between classes
To be fair at least with this example, its whomever still actually buys CoD's fault for who deserves to deal with that. That series has been in the shitter since at least 2012.
game files being so large is a tactic to make you play their game more. youre less likely to have a bunch of other games downloaded taking you away from theirs.
@@Pronghorn333Respawn was actually formed by a group of people who left EA (maybe Activision, I forget) because of the monetization. So still technically EA (if it is EA).
It is morally ethical to plunder most games. Especially Nintendo. They take away an eShop, I take an entire micro SD of every English language game I can find, slap that baby into an emulator cartridge.
@@alexmercado1883 star wars jedi : survivor. im the same played on ps5 and it ran great, such a shame with the horrendous pc port cause its a really fun game but this will overshadow it
I'm playing it on pc, runs fine and looks okay, but I'm not the sort to look too close at graphics and whatnot and I just assumed my computer sucks until I watched this
This situation and the way you described it reminds me so much of when security breach was released. I've been in the FNAF fandom since 2014 and have stuck with it since. The amount of hype and excitement that people (including myself) had up to its release was immeasurable. The game releases, chaos. Everyone was so shocked and disappointed in the state the game came out in and people still are. The game even made long time fans of fnaf stop playing or even talking about fnaf because they were so disappointed. It's so sad since the game had so much potential and based on the trailers it looked incredible. But you can tell leading up to the launch they time crunched so hard trying to keep up with the release date that they removed a bunch of story, changed a bunch of story, rushed endings, butchered game mechanics, and more. Even to this day after it being out for a little less than a year in a half the game still is riddled with bugs and errors. While both these games suffer different types of problems from launch both their situations are just so simular. While I am happy that this jedi game has more to offer and objectively has less issues, it's still sad to see a game that is good/has potential be dragged down by its horrible launch.
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I second this gripe. It happened with my SIMS games, I bought the games legitimately, it did not work on my computer so I ended up having to download a pirated copy because they had properly patched it so it would actually work and it required less memory space too which was packaged with extra DLCs and two extra expansions. So the hackers version was just a far superior product.
Yo SAME! They took down the Sims 2 so no one could buy it anymore after it got popular again. And the Sims 3 is priced the exact same price it was 10+ years ago. The Sims 4 is a slap in everyone's face. How many years, expansion packs, and money-grabs later - there still isn't even a game to play. I absolutely pirated that shit. Sims 2 & 3 are with me forever, even if I don't play anymore. EA has me fucked up.
God OK I had Sims 4 on Origin. I got a new computer and put EA Play on it, and it tried to say I hadn't bought all of the content packs I most certainly purchased and sell them to me AGAIN. Like, if the corporation tries to screw people, they're going to give up.
@@zennyzenzen Pretty sure you can still get sims 2 if you contact EA or something...I at least got it registered via EA launcher, so can play it. Granted maybe I remember wrong. You can also get sims 2 to run well with settings guides on youtube.
@@arbejde7281 Ok I definitely never said anything about Sims 2 not working. And there's no need to contact the developers of the game when the topic of the comment section is: pirating games bc developers have made legitimate means worse
It's a $70 Star Wars game from EA. It's the epitome of goyslop. If you thought it would be playable or finished on launch in the slightest, then you haven't been paying attention. The only thing that surprises me is the 128GB download. That's absolutely mental - even the biggest games should be no more than half that without DLC. Unless you're playing a simulator, that file size for a single, clean install, with no mods or DLC, is beyond absurd in the current year.
Its like buying a brand new car, going to get into it and being told that it doesnt perform how its supposed to and that you can bring it back later so that it can be fixed to then run properly.
What irritates me the most about this is that is gets fixed pretty qickly every time. Meaning they knew about it and released it anyway, instead of just setting the deadline 2-3 months later. And it happens every.single.time. So every company seems to set their deadline 3 months or so too early for no apparent reason.
Triple A studio's have to pay upwards of 100 people to work on said game. thats 100 salaries that need to be paid in those months. In what world does it make sense to lose hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars paying these people rather than dropping the game, making a profit and paying 1/4 the amount of people to patch and fix the game.
What about Black Ops Cold War, Vanguard came out and I was still loading in with half the map missing on CW. FNAF still has so many glitches, hell a bug patch added old bugs back in. I'm done pre ordering, non of these game company's have my trust anymore.
DL2 year after release removed Denuvo and the fps boost on my RX580 was huge for me. Going from 50-55fps on release to about 70-75 with few settings turned from medium to high. This is wild
If you rely on online patches, what you are saying is that you're okay with players who don't have internet access getting a subpar experience. It's mostly a problem with physical copies of games, but it's entirely possible to download a game and then lose internet access due to a move, tighter finances, etc. These people deserve a completed game just like the rest of us.
That's actually a reason for the industry push towards digital releases. Physical discs require the internet to be patched and you have to have the internet anyway to download digital games. Weird world we live in.
online patches are a good thing in a vacuum, a lot of old games that had potential ended up dead forever because of deadlines and it being impossible to do updates on console games back in the old times the real problem is big companies abusing this convenience to release unfinished products sooner and use the players as beta testers
"physical" media is kind of bullshit anyway. no one can touch an if else statement with their bare hands. CDs are just a fancy way of packaging the initial game (if any) without any internet.
@@angel_of_rust "physical" media is just a way to say disk or cassette. Also physical media is the only way to own something, digital goods exist as long as the developer/publisher allow it to.
the creators pushed back the release a month to ensure quality, i was excited to hear that bc that made me expect a better running game, but i can barely get 15 frames on the moon of koboh while the graphics are all on low!
Imagine spending thousands upon thousands of dollars on a PC to play games, just to have the game completely unplayable cause the studio couldn't be bothered to optimize the game properly.
This is the reason why I have an xbox series x and a sub 1k laptop which is a couple years old to play all the older games which run better on PC. Basically all the new games I like run better on consoles until some community fix is released like a year or two later. Yeah I'll miss out on mods but at this point I don't really care to spend hours learning how to get a modlist loaded with the specific correct settings to avoid a CTD when I can have any number of games on console ready to play immediately after install. All of my friends also just play console and multiplayer is usually working well and pretty user friendly even for tech impaired people.
imagine spending $600 on a console playing the game on quality mode having no problems what so ever. Couldn't be me all big baby but mad over 60 fps. I grew up playing games on the n64 that dipped into the single digits. Cry me a river.
Yes. Precisely. The devs have no power when it comes to deadlines, they're often expected to go above and beyond in order to meet them. And it just results in burnout and lack of passion and drive for making the game in the first place
Thats why I pirate games. You still play and enjoy the content devs put in, and dont pay for it cuz most of the money would go to the company anyway. The gaming industry is a bubble that needs to burst. Getting rid of the pests like ea or activision would make it a better market
Been watching Charlie for at least ten years at this point…coincidentally, that’s about when I realized this problem with the games industry-I preordered Total War Rome II way back in 2013. That was also the last time I preordered a game.
@@fredsmith9714 Damn, I remember those times. I've been here since 2014. So much had changed since then but it's a relief his content has not only held up but massively improved. Though, i'll always miss the faceless gameplays and voiceovers for adverts. Good stuff
The part that annoys me most about all this, the publishers (EA) will blame the developer studio (RESPAWN) for the performance failures rather than blame publisher mismanagement and inclusion of software that makes no sense from a practicality standpoint. Meaning they will say all the things that actually caused the problem are fine and the actual good parts of development that otherwise have made a decent product get blamed, put on a tighter leash and/or replaced with someone else more inferior. Self-degradation of a company at it's worse.
What happens when it isn’t actually passionate people in charge. I’ve literally gotten into arguments with people who think since gaming companies are a “company” they don’t need a CEO who actually enjoys gaming. Like I may be a writer who doesn’t like reading, but that argument isn’t applicable to every damn thing creatively. Video games are a bloody art form! You need to care about a good game and not just the money it may print by being so good. Frustrating times :(
@@jesseroberts1041 When that happens, you have valve. Companies without a direction and thus stand still rather than make new products. It works in small scale, but the bigger you get, the less capable you are at moving anywhere. You don't need management when all the people you need to talk to are in the same room with you. But when you take up an entire cafeteria, that's when it becomes unsustainable and management becomes the necessary evil.
@@percynotjacksonx well, I'm pretty sure the elden ring dlc isn't gonna come out like this shit. The Dead space and re remakes also came out flawlessly. Tears of the kingdom you already know is gonna be a banger. The problem is that people buy shitty games from untrustworthy companies. For example, starfield, when that garbage releases, it's definitely gonna be a buggy mess.
When you've deleting games and see the ones taking the most space are the ones with the best graphics you remember it but that bit of advertising isn't worth just hours before you can experience the thing you're meant to be hiped about.
In the case of The Callisto Protocol, there was an incorrect config file accidentally in the shipped game. They swapped it with the correct one in less than 24 hours and the game literally became solid 60+ FPS afterwards.
Still wasn't the best game to run, if you were using ray tracing (probably because the game was developed for AMD and CPUs rather than GPUs). But other than that, the quick patch at least fixed TCP game.
But then again, you don't need to have rtx on even though yes, ray tracing looks nice. Just don't use it for Callisto unless you have the new NVIDIA 4000 series.
@@MKULTRA_Victim_ No shit, it sank the game. It had other issues, but it got hated so much for the launch performance that many people didn't even give it a chance
The fact that people actually thought that shitty game was ever going to be good is laughable. Like, fr, you can see the obvious tell tale signs of shitty games. That game is literally a dead space cop off, and unoriginal. I always knew that shit was gonna be bad. And now I bet people are gonna be angry at Bethesda for releasing starfield and it being shit as well. They've done this to you before. Don't buy from shit companies. You fucking cows.
One of the first thing I was taught when learning how to create videogames was optimization. To see AAA companies unoptimize their games on purpose to 'combat' piracy hurts my brain. Edit: shoutout to @luiscesarvianagomes970 for pointing out that my assumption of this whole optimization thing is one-sided and possibly flawed. Gotta learn to consider things from more/different perspectives in the future.
It’s a bs excuse. The real reason is that they find the cheapest possible programmers so they can eat the extra profits like the greedy bastards they are.
@@p.r.1308 heck im pirating games as we speak, and i would buy games too. But 99% of games that come out are shit. I get more out of spending 70$ on league of legends than AAA games at this point
I remember the same ' DRM making games performance worse or even unplayable ' situation at the time Assassin's Creed Origins first came out and the many others' that followed suit... and then you would think that the game publishers would learn a thing or two by now, but nope!
@@CaZuaLDeMoN yeah, but there may be less of them. If i had money i would buy games too, but i can't afford to spend $70 on an unfinished product multiple times.
Not even half way through the video and the part about downloading hits hard. The amount of times I've had to reinstall a CoD game and it takes 3 days on my internet is insane. Start compressing games and making it easier for people who don't have fast speed internet to play.
How in God's name is a game over 100 gb, 50 gb is already insane, have my niggas never heard of deleting old files that they forgot to remove from the game lmao
@@kinderx16_38 dawg i felt that, my steam download speed maxes at >700kb/s, averages 200 kb/s, in rural America - 30gb is a “start download in the morning so it is done tomorrow night” vibe. Fuck Brightspeed, which was CenturyLink until like a year ago - randomly dropped from 1mb/s downloads to my current speed around the same time. Wish i had more options, right on the cusp of being able to get better providers, I’ve got a neighbor who hits literally 100mb/s thru steam, yet I am stuck with this bullshit literally hundreds of times slower.
At this point I really want piraters to break Denuvo so fast that companies stop using it. Like if they crack it fast enough it’ll reach a point where the Publishers won’t want to waste the money on it.
I mean, that's what they did with the last game, they removed the software a year later after it taking only 3 days to crack the port. Yet here we still are. I think the part that annoys me about this is the mentality behind why the software even exists. "If they can't pirate, then they will have to buy it legitimately", no, most people ALREADY default to buying it legitimately, pirating software is the alternative here, not the other way around. If people can't pirate, then they just aren't gonna play it. You aren't making any more money by telling people who can't afford your game that they can't play it. So rather than understand it rationally, they make everyone suffer as a result. The software makes no Fing sense. If anything, they will result to G2A before serving the end goal of anti-pirate software.
@@Hadeks_Marow Piracy is a matter of service, not a matter of price. Wanna combat piracy? Simply offer a product good enough to be considered worth buying. Remember Elden Ring? You know how much time it took for it to be cracked? None. It was cracked day one. Yet it was still an absolute landslide in terms of financial success. It even outsold a COD game ffs. Millions of people had a choice between buying the game and pirating it, and they chose the former, because they knew the product they were getting was actually worth it. Get into any piracy forum and search for a thread about a beloved game. I guarantee you there will be people genuinely advising to buy the game if you can because the devs deserve it. Provide a service good enough to be paid for and people will pay for it, it’s as simple as that. Y’know what hurts the most though? Console versions don’t have Denuvo. That means they are putting an absolutely destructive antipiracy measure in the version of the game that runs worst. They are worsening the key problem that is costing them thousands upon thousands of copies. By putting Denuvo on an already broken game they’ve lost more money than they’ll ever gain from people not pirating it.
I feel like every video Charlie gets further and further away from the camera. I’m waiting for his videos to be from the far corner of the room. Love ya Charlie.
I remembered when I was playing grounded on the Xbox. it had no crashes and little lags around the hedges but when they added the drm somehow it crashes every time I scroll down a little too fast or when I’m walking around
I've been preaching this for the last few years and am so glad you made a video on it. When I pay $ for a game I expect it to be damn near perfect, not "somewhat playable" until the first big update.
This. Big companies get away with it because people keep preordering and not demanding a refund when your RTX 3090 is working so hard that 45 fps is making your PC a space heater. Never buy a game until the reviews come out unless the company has proven to be trustworthy until this gets fixed, and demand a refund the moment you notice consistent issues. Don't just let the GAME COMPANIES bully YOU out of your money.
I'm mostly dealing with crashes. I pray to hit check points, otherwise I have to redo full sections. On the plus side, I might become a speedrunner for this game!
I’m lucky enough to have both a pc and ps5, so I got the ps5 version. Even on that, and even with a 1440p monitor instead of 4k, it stutters, glitches, the cutscenes goof around, and it looks anywhere from “pretty” to “obviously still loading for 30 minutes”
1:23 - I think it would be nice to divide the games into different options to download, like "only low-quality textures", "mid/ultra/other quality textures" and "all quality textures" so the game will be keeping only a said set of textures and other stuff on your PC and not the full package. I think it would help a lot.
which was the way things worked before, because each brand made their computer models with clear and usually non-customizable parts, so they were treated more like console ports with very defined limitations. so you could play, say, secret of monkey island no matter whether you had an old computer with a three-color monitor and no sound or the most modern model there was, because they took the time to release different versions that were compatible with all the popular computer models at the time.
the problem is that, there are no different textures buddy. you get the full package, and the game internally scales them down with power of 2's when you choose options. it's not like you have 6 different textures for varying qualities, like that's VERY counter intuitive and the fact that the game weighs this much is either because they fucked up their compression or is like a big fucking jumble of mess where they can't even bother to compress the game because it'll fuck up the whole architecture
From a AAA game, it is unacceptable. This is what kills my hype for new games. Any game that gets huge promotion nowadays, I sit back and wait until after release to be sure it plays properly.
Denuvo is like that one absurdly fast noisy fly in your room that actively attempts to get in your face and lands in your food even when you leave it alone
Ye. Kojima was a damn great artist, anyone on his team too would have to be. Sad the story wasn’t the best though, compared to the others I think. I just hope if Konami ever gets their head outta their ass, they get Kojima to help with remakes of the metal gears. I couldn’t imagine them with the movement etc of mgs5
AAA publishers are just money hungry asshats with no care for gaming, let alone passion. They just want fast money and push devs beyond any acceptable limit. Unionizing developers would help a lot
Lol im just watching (I should say listening to this) while playing mobile games, your voice is music to my ears, I discovered this channel yesterday and I am loving it, I just love listening to your rants, idk why, but i love your voice and personality.
"...I felt like I was downloading another human being on my computer." Do not know why that was the joke that made me laugh in today's video, but the Moist works in mysterious ways 😂
In my opinion, yall complain that PC has to wait for games and then complain when it comes out and it's not ready. It's first and foremost made for consoles. As Charile says it's a PORT. They make the game with console in mind first. So honestly all you pc elitists should just have devs withhold the game from pc until its ready.
2:35 You bring up performance and I wanna add how poorly optimized MW2 was when I fist got it last fall. Yeah i could hit 130fps, but it wasnt a stable 130fps. Dips were frequent, and many down in the teens and even single digits. I dont have a bad oc, nor a high end one, but i paid $109.49 for the vault edition, but if i pay a premium for a game, i want it to run smooth at the settings i put on it (Which was 1080p Low on an RTX 3070). But many uodates have rolled out over the montha and it has fixed the issue. I get higher frames and more stable ones too.
I feel like we need to start calling out the higher ups that force the devs to release utter garbage just to get an extra buck instead of blaming the devs, who most of the time have little to no say on these things.
aight, Sorry in advance for the rant but these are my honest feelings about this bullshit. The problem is essentially corporations trying to impress their shareholders and show that their business is growing which is understandable but incredibly shortsighted. Yes, you will lose some support for the short term, but in exchange your image will look better when a big project is received well. Let me elaborate. What do you hear about the new star wars game. how good it's? The story? The game play? Nope, just negative review on negative review, so of course the average consumer who's been looking to pick this game will be put off and will likely not go for it. I didn't even know this game existed till like a month ago and totally forgot but was reminded this morning with so many negative reviews. I at first considered buying the game, then all the negativity convinced me to wait. If people were talking about how good this game is, then the company's image will improve and so will their shareholder's faith in the company's success. Sales aren't enough, sales will happen but at the expense of losing your crowd. would you rather make a big splash and have dedicated people talking about your new amazing game or do you want people to return their purchase after a day or two and let your franchise fade into obscurity? that's the questions these corporations should be asking themselves but again, they're short sighted and have to have evidence of their growth to convince their investors that they can keep going. As a solution, I say it would instead be better for fans to wait till the game comes out and see how it performs before buying it. Of course, every single one of us is guilty of this mistake, especially when the corps have a popular brand on their side, this is Cyberpunk 2077 all over again. I usually wait before buying a game, I see how others enjoyed it, see if I would enjoy it. Then only after I'm confident my interests will be satisfied that I will hit the buy button. That's not to say I do that with every game, I pre-ordered the legend of zelda tears of the kingdom a month ago with little restraint. Yes the game looks great, the people who previewed the game says it performs well, but before the previews dropped my trigger discipline vanished because it was a franchise that was beloved to me. If it was an open world game that was really good but didn't have the zelda brand, I'll be honest, it doesn't matter how good it looks, I will not pre-order, but nintendo had the brand on their side and that made me bite the bullet. I will not be the first or the last to say we have to be more patient before clicking the pre-order button. I will admit that I should have waited till the previews for totk confirmed that the game performs as expected. However unlike those games that were rushed, tears of the kingdom was DELAYED so that the developers could realize their vision properly which is why I have a lot more faith in it turning out well but even if it doesn't, I'll simply return it or sell it. there was also the sonic movie. When the first designs came out, everyone shat on that movie, I never planned on watching it regardless. But when the movie got delayed and the design drastically improved, the company was not only rewarded with good press, but also got people interested enough to watch a movie they were whatever about, myself included. I seriously didn't give af about the sonic movie until I heard people hyping it up after it hit theaters. again, good press matters. It'll probably be a long shot, yet still possible to get people to stop buying games that don't perform well on release, simply tell the devs on social media that you will wait until the game is polished before making a purchase. If the game doesn't sell well at launch because of these problems, then there's no point in releasing early, might as well delay. And if it doesn't work as advertised, return it. As the individual consumer, you have little power over the collective, but when the collective are of the same mind, then these companies have no choice but to meet our demands.
The game was actually set to release in March, but was one month postponed. Makes you wonder how bad of a state it would have been in if they released it that early
I played it on my travel pc first which is a gaming laptop I’ve had for about two years or so and the graphics are rancid. Cal’s forehead is covered in red spots which I assume are supposed to be hair follicles and the lightsaber is thinner than a laser pointer.
I've worked in industry for a while. The "reason" this happens, is actually many many reasons. First, you have execs, especially publishers like EA, who have put their money into a game's development and want to see returns. We can say they're greedy, and to an extent they are. But a lot of this comes down to timelines that are set for projects that continue to grow more and more in scope after that timeline was already established. Sometimes things get axed and something else gets put in its place. Sometimes more features get requested, etc. But when the publisher and all stakeholders say a game is shipping, the devs normally will bring all their concerns to them and it's ultimately up to the stakeholders on whether to go forward. Second, performance is just really, really hard to get right on PC. With each console edition you've got pre-determined specs to get things to run on. With a PC, you've got a million configurations people could possibly have, coming all the way down to what drivers they've actually installed. I've had someone have horrible framerates in a game that we eventually diagnosed to a sound driver, of all things. Granted - that doesn't really excuse WIDESPREAD performance issues. But you WILL inevitably have players that just have awful performance on your product. Third, generally perf testing is rarely invested enough into. Most dev teams I know have a bunch of different PCs at different specs, but are generally only testing "min spec, low spec, mid spec, high spec" as categories for performance with completely different PC configurations, but they don't have thousands of machines for their perf captures. AAA publishers have found that the more money they dump into marketing, the better the game will perform generally, wheras there's very little return for having 400 devices and VMs to test with. Instead the perf team might have like 30 or so. Fourth, what constitutes a low end PC versus a very high end PC right now is a wider gap than it's ever been, really. You've got enthusiasts buying the absolute newest things they can as soon as they can, and you've got people running 11 year old parts. You've also got people buying pre-builts that advertise 3090s and assume that'll cover any possible game, but that 3000 series card is bottlenecked heavily by some other component they've shoved in there to save, since a lot of consumers are really only looking at graphics card performance. And finally, gamers are still buying the game. Which kind of goes back to point three, but fact of the matter is marketing hype drives sales more than quality of game. And a lot of the biggest AAA companies have not only learned that, they've used it to the best of their ability to survive. It's why there aren't a lot of smaller devs making big budget games anymore - making something on a AAA budget is incredibly thin margins without huge marketing budgets too, to the point where a singular game being a failure will close the entire company. It's happened to a TON of studios over time that tried to keep up with AAA games, and eventually they all shut down or got bought out and consolidated into the bigger publishers today. Edit: Also to be clear, I'm not trying to defend the EA/Star Wars game. It's quite possible that one or many of these things applied to it. I DO feel sympathy for the devs because I KNOW they're working this entire weekend in a scramble trying to fix stuff that might not have ultimately been their fault. But the issues the PC has had in particular seem pretty far reaching so there's definitely a failure somewhere and I think it's more than fair to be angry that a product you buy has that many problems. I just wanted to shed some light on why it's been a problem with PC ports. Generally the super polished products when it comes to performance have super dedicated and large perf teams like Riot/Epic.
Well spaghetti code is typically more heavily optimizable, so actually not writing spaghetti code causes more performance issues (sometimes not always...)
Do you have any computer recommendations? Like what is standard or typically used in testing, and would be the most compatible? If there is any standard, that is. Sorry if it’s a dumb question.
I live in a rural area in SA so the internet infrastructure only allows mobile networks mostly per paid. I always felt so left out that modern gaming was basically out of my realm of existence but ironically enough, the more time goes by and the better technology gets the less interested I am in any new titles. From reviews and gaming streams seems most new AAA titles are literal rehashes and completely uninspired. Market share is prioritized over Innovation can sense the coprate nature and lack of care and love in most generes today, pretty sad.
I remember Hogwarts Legacy launched with Denuvo like this. It took Empress a week to crack it and a few more days to release it. Denuvo doesn't do anything other than hog the CPU. I imagine it's an afterthought when developing and only implemented before release.
It works initially, on brand new versions of Denuvo. It doesn't work after that version gets cracked. Which means that it basically has no effect except on paying customers.
I really hope this will be the tipping point for a lot of people. On one hand, people might look out for games that are actually working like Hades or Signalis, instead of fully relying on the triple A market. I also hope that triple A companies will start to come around to moving past DRM, as well as actually finishing products. Like the latter will ever happen. EA was bragging that Jedi Survivor was made in record time of 3 years. It obviously needed another year or so.
@Miles Hill I mean. EA is getting a SHIT ton of flak for this. Like EVERYONE is talking about it. I doubt other companies would want something like that happening to them
a large company mainly concerned about being functioning business will almost always take short term profit over long term, they will ship out a product expecting most people to buy in the first place just to quickly get a pay off in the company and their investors while the developers, people actually doing the work aren't given realistic time to create a finished product
Looks like the first patch has done pretty good, still a ton of work to do but at least they were able to get it out quickly. But yes, they need to sort this whole testing thing out. Do they like all test these PC games on one configuration like they would a Console, then at like Yep it’s good ship it!
EA gonna EA. Anti-piracy measures and mass layoffs. In this case, they actually laid off 200+ QA workers who were specifically assigned to Respawn in early March.
@@Necroskull388 In my opinion, yall complain that PC has to wait for games and then complain when it comes out and it's not ready. It's first and foremost made for consoles. As Charile says it's a PORT. They make the game with console in mind first. So honestly all you pc elitists should just have devs withhold the game from pc until its ready.
@@ljeans531 well, the higher ups are usually the ones to set the deadline for the devs, players are just there to receive it.. nothing they can do about it. So yeah for the sake of delivering it on time, the company is gonna have to release it regardless of its state.
