Getting that regen turned down and permitting roll in conditions like this, especially icy highway conditions, is the key - otherwise you'll upset the rear of the car when you let off the accelerator. Nice video. Recommendation for drivers, create a new driver profile and name it Snow/Ice, so that you can quickly set to these preferences when you come upon poor winter road conditions, this has helped me substantially.
GREAT video, Tommy! I enjoy experiencing the car through your videos while I wait for my delivery day. My test drive did not include trying "Roll" mode - and after the recent winter weather here, I had serious questions about how I would deal with regen in slick conditions. Question answered. You keep having fun, I'll keep watching!
I have been told that the 19inch tires on the Dual Motor AWD will perform better than the 21 inch tires in the snow because they can cut through the snow better. As far as power, both cars would be using only a small fraction of the HP and Torque that could possibly be used in these conditions. But this video is very useful and tells what settings to use in snow covered roads.
"DEEP SNOW"... Seriously, get an editor. While I'm not expecting "DEEP SNOW" like I run our 4x4's through I expect "DEEP SNOW" to be consistently more than 6" of fluff. Just say "snow" as that is not "DEEP SNOW". Again, no criticism of Tesla, or the Model Y, both great choices.
@donlarson1224 It was enough snow to show the principle. You don't need studded tires in snow. But they are very necessary on ice. And usually, you get both in winter.,
Great video ! I think what I get from this is that Tesla with the “extra” weigh due to the batteries + the excellent traction control, makes this car good in winter even with A/S tires. I think for those who are wondering if if change their tires during winter this is my advice: Tires is the MOST important part of the car during winter. A good set of A/S or All weather tires can let you go if where you live there is not too much snow. However, winter tires will be ALWAYS the safest option during winter !
I have driven in 5" of recent snowfall in DC Metro in my MYP with stock summer tires 21". I was afraid at first after all the videos I have watched on RU-vid saying don't do it without snow tires or at least all weather tires. But I was pleasantly surprised! At uptown speeds of 45 MPH it was simply amazing. Did not have any issue with the regen. I was slow to release the pedal, and there was no skidding or slippage. I am truly amazed with this car. I wonder if the MYP performs better than the Model Y Dual Motor in the snow because the motors are slightly more powerful. And for the amount of snow we get in DC Metro area (once in a while) - does not look like I will have to swap out for winter or all weather tires.
@@coleeto2 Certainly concur especially if it snows frequently. In our neck of the woods it snows 3-5 times a year. And we can get by without having to drive in the snow for those few days...
Also, in my own experience (a Plaid with all-seasons), snow is fine, it’s the ice patches that’ll get you, especially when they’re wet. Braking distance increases by a lot, and you’ll be very prone to understeer if you try to turn. So beware.
One last thing to note: your best stopping distance will be to just trust the regen - it will ride the limit of traction much better than the ABS. Try it, you’ll see. Applying the brakes when the regen is at the limit is totally useless, in fact slightly counterproductive. So in a panic, don’t use the brakes, instead try to gently turn towards something softer than what you’re heading for, as best you can.
Agree with Gregory. Braking can be tricky particularly going downhill as majority of the weight gets distributed to front wheels which can make steering totally out of control thus minimizing your chances of negotiating your path to a safer stop. The key would be being so gentle on both pedals and focusing mainly on steering. Have learnt my lessons the hard way in Australian snow up in the mountains. This was not in a Tesla though.
The car is a beast in snow. Imagine putting actual snow tires on! The only downside if you actually get stuck, no one will be able to pull you out because of the weight 😅 greetings from MY LR owner.
Studded tire are much better on ice. But they doesn't do much in deep snow. I once played in 30 cm deep untouched snow with new all seasons (winter) tires. It worked fantastically. So, I'm not surprised. You just confirmed this for me. I had those tires in winter because streets close to the city usually weren't very icy in winter. They used salt heavily. Further out fro the city studded tires would have been the right choice, because thats where there were real winter roads!
@@TommyLGarage i apologize that was rude. I do not know your area. I just heard a tire person friend tell me of all the accidents on a certain hill..due all season tires..Maybe some grades of them are allowed but regular winter tires work better. Trust me. (i do not know what version of winter tires are required in Northern BC)
Exactly, I am not sure what he was on about... as long as you are not using totally worn down summer tires and have RW only. Great vid though. Thanks! :)
Same here, I went out last week and did a bunch of tests myself. I even stopped with one side of the car on a sheet of ice and the other side on pavement, 0 issues as the regen reduced itself
Remember a car is only as good as the driver is, learn your car and make the car work for you, ever tire and season is going to have impact on how the car works
Yes! Yes! I had same experience with my Model X LR+ during last Christmas storm on road to South Lake Tahoe. Stock all season tires. Great confidence in making new tracks going 35 to 45 mph. Love my Tesla for its AWD snow capability.
Btw, mass doesn’t matter (much) - when you work out the physics math, you find that the extra friction from the added weight is exactly matched by the increased momentum you now need to overcome. The only thing added weight affects is the compression of the tire rubber, which affects its chemistry, which in turn affects its grip slightly. It’s even possible to be “too heavy” for your specific tire chemistry and lose traction compared to a lighter car on the same tires.
Close yes but acts more like a rear biased car due to the front motors being idle until grip/power is needed. They do this to improve range on dual motors
Winter tires are softer and grip in colder temp. Studded winter grips are like three times better than all seasons. 8 to 12 inches of snow then wind drifts it around . The all seasons tire don't get out of the hotel parking lot . Around here all drivers have a separate set of tires with steel rims ready for the first snow and then to take them off when it warms up in spring . The tire company's have ads that show on average the winter tire spots 33feet shorter than a average all season tire . That is the length of most vehicles. Studded winter grips are 55feet short the average all season . That is Goodyear and Blizzack tires
Fantastic to see your results. Only warning I'd suggest is that we can't over come a) momentum and b) the physics of weight. Didn't look up weight of car, but I suspect near or over 5,000 lbs. That will give you traction to start, and grip in stopping and corners, however there is a limit to how much any tire can provide. And the more speed the higher the exponential impact of skidding, turning, stopping or crashing. You ski. What is your off the top of your head number of four wheel drive vehicles in the ditch versus lower, lighter, smaller vehicles? My experience is higher centre of gravity, four wheel systems weigh more than two wheels, drivers of 4WD get over confident because they can accelerate. But that is from zero. From 60kph/40mph or higher completely different story. And the same for stopping. In your video you were probably under 50kph/30mph. All drivers should practice in a safe parking lot. Every year the slippery comes. You should do much more often, but my neighbours think I'm nuts cuz I do it every time there is any stuff on our street. Hint: my residential street will probably be the worst I will drive on that day. All other roads will be plowed and salted before mine. Good luck out there and keep your eyes up. Oh ya, please go to the parking lot and practice getting out of control and then getting it back. Donuts or whatever. Don't stop learning.
I live in Sweden, we have snow every winter. My Tesla model S75D is by far the best car i have ever had in snowy conditions. Quick, stable, dont get stuck, good heating...
I'm SO nervous but this video helps! My wife and I just ordered a MLP to replace her Mercedes GL 450. We live in northern NY in "lake effect snow country". Today I ordered a set of MICHELIN PILOT SPORT ALL SEASON 4 for the Tesla and pray they perform well. Expectations are realistically low. I drive a '22 Land Rover Defender on Duratracs and it's absolutely amazing in snow.
If you put new all season set of tires on most AWD cars you should get similar result and probably better too. On steep up hills your weight is not your friend always.
I have the RWD MY with snow tires and haven’t experienced issues with the regen breaking causing and slippage. I think it might be due to parking outside and having reduced regen but also the winter tires help a lot. This is living in Toronto. Some good snow and ice this year for reference.
@@TommyLGarage it definitely works EXCEPT for yesterday’s blizzard. Got stuck in a foot of snow. Today it was ploughed and very icy but no problem with grip.
YYZ here, Got Michelin Artic Alpine P4 on my MY LR, it was able to get out of most situations using slip start except the deepest fresh snow. Been living through the years with 4-5 top AWD systems, and comparatively MY's snow performance is actually very good.
@@ac-stingz in that case maybe the snow was the issue and not necessarily the RWD. I got the x ice snows this year. Only cars I saw driving around were the big F150s. A few on my street.
I just had my first snow drive in my MYP also. As you said, the car is a tank.....but it's also a tank that's faster than most cars on the road during normal conditions.😎
I guess you never drove an AWD vehicle in the snow ❄ 🤣🤣 That was also my reaction. I run all season tires on my E70 and I never got stuck, she is a beast.
The downside is mainly it's quite an expensive car to slip off the road and cost some damages. Or into a curb in wreck your rims they're quite expensive. Probably better to drive a beater for the snow.
What type or radar do you have and how did you direct wire it? Used do this with my V1 on my ICE cars, but don’t know where the fuse boxes are on this car. Any advice or video would be appreciated!
Clickbait title. Was expecting something extraordinary, but this is a normal winter road. A frontwheel driven car could manage this as well no problem.
Yeah. Up the hill and fresh snow is not the problem for heavy all wheel drive cars. It's the downhill on dense snow that has been turned into ice by many cars driving over it is what you should worry about.
The only thing better then playing in the snow, in a Tesla, would be having a second Tesla charging while playing in the first one. I'm hoping the Cyber Truck will have a auxiliary bed-mount battery, so I can plow all day and night.
update..we love space x. We traveled to Boca Chica to see the starship get built. & we got the S dual motor fsd last Christmas 🎄 😎 still have the cybertruck tri motor or 4 motor fsd on order, i got lots of solar & backup battery system to charge them both.
I drive a rear wheel Model S. The traction and the level of control of this car is unbelievable. My all-wheel drive BMW X5 just sucks compared to the Tesla.
My driveway is on an incline. I live in a cul-de-sac and we seem to be the last area to see a snow ploy. Neighbors will typically have clean cars and driveways before the plow comes through. It's nice to see this test. I live here in Northern Virginia where I95 was shutdown and it's nice to know that once I take delivery of my MY this year I'll be better for it next year when get snow. I didn't get stranded on I95 but like knowing that if I did then the MY is one of the better choices out there to get you out of a jam.
I totally had my Y run off the road because it wouldn’t brake in the snow. Snow tires were bought needless to say to try mitigating this. And it wasn’t even deep snow might have been black ice. The car just kept going and wouldn’t stop.
Using hold should not matter at all. I use hold all the time and just drove in the snow. Regen uses abs and traction control the same way as when you brake. It should not make any difference. The regen is controlled the same way with those systems.
One important point about snow tires is that snow tires has softer rubber. Summer tires has harder rubber and will act like ice cubes on lower temps and slippery roads in winter. And one should never use winter tires in summer cuz the rubber is too soft for the warm temps, and one should never use summer tires in winter cuz of the hard rubber. Both are dangerious. Physics. All weathers are like, not best in any classes. They're just rubber on ur rims :D
I see you are in SR! I lived there for many years and navigated those snowy roads more than just a couple of times, but never in a Tesla! How about trying to go up Mountain Rd! Thanks for the video!
Do you keep it on roll mode and slip start while driving in snow? What settings do you have it on for best traction? I tried looking at your screen but was a little blurry. Thanks!
Man all good, but why you cannot make donnuts? Model 3 has option for turning system off and doing sideways with rwd setting of the distribution. I have seen such videos. Is this option missing in Y ?
What the heck? Roll mode doesn’t turn off regen breaking. It just lets the call roll at a stop. I think you’re just not letting off the throttle as abruptly on your second go there.