This RIDICULOUS MSI Pre-Built Did Not Survive The Video... 

The perfect blend of: desktop lack of mobility combined with the expected lack of performance from a laptop. MSI has done it!

It's so frustrating to handicap a system by leaving out $40 of ram!

That CPU cooler needs its own review video, to see how it cools something a bit more powerful :D

The quality and humour of these videos this guy should have over a million subs. The amount of creativity too. He doesn’t copy any other tech RU-vidr either so it’s refreshing to watch his videos

Huh, whenever I saw pictures of this a few years ago I thought it was bigger and just used standard components. Didn't expect this bizarro layout!

People really underestimate how much performance they're leaving on the table with a single stick. My buddy had a Ryzem 2600 build that he had kneecapped with a single 8GB stick of 2400MT/s. I told him he'd be much happier if he upgraded his RAM, but he didn't listen and ended up building an entirely new PC less than a year later. 🤦‍♂️

"It smells like PC death" 😄 The common theme in your pre-builds is that the manufacture says let's design a PC and then cripple it by either having single channel memory or poorly cooled so that it thermal throttles. Got to love those speciality PSUs that will cost 1/2 the purchase price of the PC to replace. My 1st 2 PCs were bought as a package, since then built my own so as not to be ripped off.

When I saw you changing out the GPU I was like : cool , he’ll hook up the GPU to another power supply. And then when you didn’t do that, I was like: yeah this isn’t going to end well.

Imagine selling a still decent PC because you feel the performance isn't enough for you anymore but actually another used 8GB SO-DIMM for ~15$ could double the performance in some instances - and it could have done so many years ago. I don't know whether to laugh or to feel bad for the previous owner.

That power supply actually looks like a short server power supply to me. Maybe take some measurements of the PSU and do a little looking around for server power supplies to see if you can upgrade it to like, 600w? should allow the rig to have relevance again.

I am legitmately amazed that the fold-outy.... Ears?.. weren't wifi antennae. Since that seemed to be a custom'ish motherboard for that case, it would've been a nice touch.

8:35 I like how there is "UH NO" text on the RAM stick. It's like it didn't want to be part of this Frankenstein's monster of a PC.

I think that's a flexATX PSU so I think you could replace it easily enough. (Or at least as easy as it is in this sardine can) Edit: of course it's flexATX but still not standard, why'd I expect more from a prebuilt lol

Some power supplies have a “heat fuse” (or whatever they are called in English), which prevents it from powering on for a while (usually around 5 minutes or so). Did you wait and see if it powered on again after a while? At least it’s an FSP flexATX so you can get a replacement if needed… Also, Gundam are cool. The model kits are fun!

Looks like a FlexATX PSU, might be able to get a semi-decent replacement

that case is actually kind of amazing, with some basic mods it would be a great little gaming rig

There may be a fuse that you can replace but you'll need to be very well protected and discharge the capacitors. However, it's also possible that this PSU only has a single use OCP.

It makes sense it failed but not in that way as you stated. It was actually expected since the supply is dual rail with a 24A cap on each rail. Usually 1 rail is dedicated to the CPU, the other to the GPU+drives+everything else depending on supply. That means the 3080ti was feeding off a shared 288W total... which wasn't much at all considering other components.

I would love to see you replace the power supply with a better one that fits in that form factor and max that case out if at all possible

What a cool project. Hilarious looking computer. It's amazing you were able to get the new mobo to fit in there! I love these kinds of videos.

I would also like to note that this PC is (was) surprisingly small... It really looks like a transformer helmet or something. It also smelt like it was a well worn transformer helmet XD

R.I.P prebuilt PC you will not be forgotten 🙏

Considering that cpu has a 65W TDP and should be boosting to 4.2 GHz, I'm guessing it was being artificially restricted by a bios setting. Also, why not attempt to power it with another power supply? Other than it not fitting in the case, it should still work for testing purposes unless the motherboard has some non-standard power connectors.

13:26 "That is a fan" I concur

Dawid: This PSU cannot be replaced. Flex ATX PSUs: Am I a joke to you?

Great video Dawid. Thank you for mentioning the HUD issue, I really wish developers would make it possible to set the HUD to 16:9, exactly for reasons you mention. I have been gaming on a Samsung G9 for about two years now and I love my ultrawide for gaming, when it works. Sadly not all games support it. Which can be frustrating, but when it works ... amazing!

I have been using laptops for the past seven years now, but upgrading the ram to the max possible specs of the machine is always the first thing I have done so far, having carefully selected the ones that are able to do so. Well mainly for graphics editing and panoramas, but I suppose the games didn't protest too much either.

Love the effort pain and work you put in this video! Especially love the before and afters, felt bad seeing you have to struggle to remove the gpu lol. Keep it up Dawid! 😁😊👍

1:52 I don't know when you started building PCs but waaay back in 2005 or so the first NZXT product I ever saw was a cheap case that looked like Optimus Prime's head. NZXT sure has come a long way. Edit : NZXT Nemesis I think it was.

I have an old MSI gaming pc that i have been using for like 7 or so years. I5 7400. 1050ti. And i upgraded the 8gb stick of laptop memory to a 16 gb stick. Has been pretty solid actually lol

Bro, “it smells like someone else’s house,” has become an insult I use frequently to confuse people now. Thank you for broadening my horizons.

People have mentioned flex atx, but it looks to be in a 1U Server format. I have a LAN case from 15 years ago that uses one. Currently I've been running a 500w modular SeaSonic unit.

This man just called a Type-A USB port, a "square" port... Clearly that's a rectangle man!

That’s a super cool case, I wish they still made a prebuilt like that

As someone who has blown a power supply via a graphics card upgrade. the video is pretty on point. system dies, smells, and doesnt turn back on. i threw an rx5708gb into a garbage prebuild with an fx6300 and 16 gigs of ram on a 500w supply. Fired up Assetto Corsa and didnt cap the frame rate. 120 fps on assetto and the power supply explodes with blue sparks out the back of it and a very loud electrical sound. smelled excellent and smoked a bit too

Hey Dawid, im wondering if you resell pc's, cause you have accumulated a lot of Alma infected pc's lol, so do you lay them to rest in your graveyard? or do u resell them?

bro if that moving "ear" was a wireless antena i'd be dead rn 💀

Great video as ever! Serious question - what does a youtuber in your position do with an older gpu like the 1070 from the broken pc? Do you sell it? Keep it in case you need it at some stage? Just curious - keep up the great work!

13:15 - that's probably the first time ever that I can hear Dawid being really scared... :O

The moment I saw this PC has a stand built-in I knew it's going to be a fun trash OEM PC. I had no idea Dawid will try to power a 400W+ GPU with a FLX 450W BRONZE PSU. I expected some fire down there in the basement xd

dawids got a huge set of balls opening that power supply like that

Alma got angry that you stole it's 1070, so it decided to attempt a homicide on your 3080 ti lol

Try to turn on the pc with another power supply :) and check that system working still

Buy a 750w flex PSU and try it again!

Just that reference to a "Gundam head" had me cracked up cuz that's the first thing that came to mind wondering if there's a Gundam edition motherboard 😅

maybe the PSU had a protect fuse or something, at least the really older non-80 plus ones had so when they got overcharged from the wall, they would just sacrifice the fuse instead of blowing up the PC

How do you not have more subs, this is just as useful as Jays two cents but actually funny, not just trying to be.

I have to admit that case is cool looking, I feel like as though it can be modded to run better.

Dawid: Let’s try this video card and see what happens Computer: Awhellnaw! (Power supply kills itself)

Well, compared to an Alienware, this isn't bad at all!

When i bought a budget pc for a few years back. That pc came with a 450 W power supply. It came with 1060 (2gb) card and only 8 gig of ram. I decide to do a medium budget upgrade to it. First i bought the same card as you used in this video. But i didnt use it after checking the box for minimum reqirements. The card needs a power supply on minimun 500W. Then i decide to go for KA 1660 ti (6gb) graphic card instead. That card "only" needed 400 W. Then i didnt need to change the power sypply. Then i put in one more 8 gb ram to it. So the specs are: Asus Rog. Clock speed 3ghz, 16 gb ram, 250 gb sdd, KA GTX 1660 Ti graphic card with 6 gb memory. My goal was to get it upgrade so i could play Goat Simulator 3 on it, and yes. It runs it wery well on full settings. A little bit old pc, but it still does the job. It accept 4K settings as well. Nice video David. 🙂

Probably the most hideous gaming case I have seen in my 50 year life! You have my ultimate respect Dawid where your sense of humour defies your wallet! Enjoy those 'Military grade components' 🤣

I have to commend Dawid for finally using some new background music!

People worldwide suffered because they couldn't find a GPU not even now with MSRP prices. Meanwhile, Dawid is risking a 3080 TI´s life just for crapy pre-build.

This case reminded me of something. It’s just missing the PC master race meme guy stood on top of the case shouting down to all the console peasantry.

FSP normally makes a pretty stout power supply that will test over the rated current...for a little bit before the fuse blows. Not exactly sure why someone would use a fuse rather than a circuit breaker....perhaps cost? Would have been interesting to have a watt meter on the system when it crashed...those 3080's really suck the juice.

Just noticed Dawid uploads 18:9 video. Nice! Great for the widescreen. The jokes are also funnier on a serious looking display.

Lol Darwin gpu's are so fed up with being put into shit systems they are starting nuke everything he puts them in. The great gpu scarce now becomes the great gpu revolt.

i loved your diagnosis of "thermal management via ram kneecapping situations". it's not as funny as we might think. sometimes it's all about the manufacturer just selling more units without really caring what the performance actually is.

BTW: Quite an interesting way of putting things together by MSI - can't say I've ever seen an ITX mainboard crossed with a laptop before. Gotta give those old MSI engineers credit for thinking outside the envelope - shame they've all apparently since left MSI and now they just churn out the same stuff as everyone else. Seems the case engineers haven't left what with them still producing chocked off sweat-lodges, but hey, at least they're not as bad as Dell.

I searched 'bad case matter?' on google and stumbled on your 2 year old video about good and bad cheap cases. And now I am marathoning your videos, sometime it is like fracking oil, and you suddenly found an interesting channel

I wonder who actually buys a rig like this? It's a genuine question

That was an "interesting" internal case design. Steve at Gamers Nexus needs to get one of these. It may make his hair fall out. The 7700K was actually not doing bad. 80ishC is high but not totally crazy. I was surprised that little heatsink and remote heat pipe worked that well. You never mentioned how loud it was. You should have looked at the paste under the CPU cooler at some point. I wonder if a re-paste could help at all. The 3080 Ti would have been fine with that PSU if you just shut off the LEDs :)

That PSU dying without tripping any protections is a bit concerning. The curious part of me says you should sent it to Gamers Nexus to see what happened.

There could be a thermister or fuse in there that opened. Maybe a diode mignt have blown, can you test electronic componets in a power supply. That is how they use to protect electronices in the olden days 🙂

It is incredible how msi managed to produce a relatively big pc with so little space inside.

Last year i bought a LENOVO IdeaCentre G5, because i was looking for a desktop/laptop to game on (GPU in old laptop died) and was actually waiting for a specific gaming laptop to be released, when i could buy this desktop for 45% of the price (was an error on a website but it got delivered). So i paid 432 euro for a OEM build (which is not great), but for so little money i had (in a time of crsis: high tech prices due tot shortages) an Intel i5 11400F, MSI 1660 Super, 512GB NVME SSD and 1x16GB RAM. After about a month i purchased a second (same serialnumber) 16GB stick and i had up to 80% more fps in games. Only downside is that other things can be a bottlenneck now, but my point is: i was amazed by the performance difference because of the second RAM stick.

The 3080ti is like the Diablo that Dankpods has, a ridiculously powerful piece of tech that destroys inferior technology.

Having just bought an MSI GE77HX, I'm currently researching all things MSI. I'm having lots of trouble with the sound aspect and that is particularly troublesome because I bought it primarily for music production. Almost everything that I've learned about MSI thus far does not bode well. I've just subbed.

Before you killed the power supply it really wasn't a bad prebuilt. I was expecting Dell levels of horrible when I saw that case and cooling design, but it surprisingly worked out.

Dawid destroys tech stuff

PSU is not done yet, likely just an internal fuse blown, they are sometimes labelled as a surface mount 0ohmR resistor. Quick fix once psu is liberated from the housing, lets see a vid, with a slow pan so we can inspect the capacitors and stuff. Fun vid mate.

When I buy a pre-built from a company like Dell, I know I will be damned with proprietory parts. But I would expect MSI who make mobo's and peripherals themselves, to use off the shelf components - especially the power supply! You didn't kill it Dawid, "clever" design killed it. (although plugging a 3080 into a bizarro-world 450W power supply is quite daring). Which raises the question...did the PSU have adeqaute connectors to even feed a 3080 ???

PSU:oh! U're new here. Nice to meet you! GPU: Yeah, yeah, yeah! Dawie wants to play BF 5 GPU: GIMME MO POWAH! PSU: Goodbye cruel world!

Dawid is the type of chad where his crush asks him out

I have the brother to this, the infinite A series with the i7-7700, 1070, and came with 2 8gb sticks of ram. Got it in 2016, and been running it since. It's been able to handle everything at Med graphics or better at 1080p. Honestly couldn't be happier. Been debating on throwing another 2 sticks of 8gb of ram in for kicks and giggles to see what would happen...

Only thing heinous about that PC is that it comes with single laptop ram stick.

12:27 reminds me of when linus tried to use 2 3090s in sli, opened tomb raider, took one step forward in the game and it crashed

Oh so the US Govt killed Optimus Prime and sold his head to a Chinese PC company to reverse engineer into crappy gaming PCs? Totally lines up. Also, I’m sad this is not a Linodeo, and yes I will keep using that word until you do the same Dawid 😂😂

MSI vr series motherboards with laptop memory has a common feature they have a voltage lock on them on the board itself through their bios so if you go over the voltage lockout with higher cards this will happen, they stopped put limiters on the motherboards after the MSI tritan X motherboards and everything that comes after it.

The RAM change shows that Intel also benefits from fast dual channel memory. In fact, it goes back at least 20 years that faster memory gives you better performance, but in most cases the GPU comes first and the CPU second before the RAM in terms of what you actually gain.

The assumption that the PSU is dead can only be ascertained if the PSU is tried with a test connector. If if fans up then the motherboard PCI pre-caps wen't and the voltage rail for that slot won't pre-charge which will cause the whole PC to not power. There is no longer any circuit as a cap vented or crystalized.

Ampere is know to spike to 3x TDP for brief periods, that PSU's OCP had no chance to trip before it cooked from the 30amp to 80amp several millisecond jump.

You can buy a new PSU for it those Flex Powersupplys are fairly common and even a 700W 80 Plus Platinum from FSP is available so a 3080Ti wouldn't kill it. And I don't know this PSU type but there could be a glass fuse in it which is blown and may be replaceable so the PC would run again.

The 3080ti blew the fuse in the PSU. You can't see it because it's mounted vertically on the pcb! It's roughly on the same line as the cooling fan's connectors.

mesh behind the perspex, is there for EMV reasons, it is a electromagnetic shield

not proud to admit that i purchased this as my first PC 6/7 years ago. (was not confident to build me own yet) now its just a project PC. but honestly the only issue I really had with it was, the fan in the PSU being loud even on idle, I tried replacing it but wasn't able to get the one I got working. came with a GTX1080 and a 6700. it would get a bit hot but nothing crazy. i do like how different the case is, but i wasn't aware of the laptop ram until i got it lol.

The power supply may actually be almost fine, with only a blown fuse preventing it from powering up the PC. Even if that is true, however, the fuse is most likely soldered in, which means replacing it is really a job for an electronics repair technician or at least a reasonable facsimile of one. On the other hand as others have mentioned, that looks like a "Flex ATX" power supply and those are available in slightly higher power output models. But that raises the question of whether the system uses normal ATX power connectors for the motherboard connections or has MSI "done a Dell" and spec'd a PSU and motherboard with non-standard power connectors.

Looks like a popped capacitor in the PSU, a small one. Surprised it didn’t make an audible enough noise when it went bye-bye.

Besides it running in single channel, that single stick of RAM also had a single rank. Big difference when you have dual rank RAM vs. single rank. Linus did a video regarding this several months back and it accounted for as much as a 23 percent loss when in dual channel mode. Imagine how much single channel, single rank would do to kneecap performance.

i remember back in the late 80s every new computer like the old 386 486s and stuff when you first turned them on they had a certain smell that invaded your nostrils not like burnt electronics but a new electronic smell.apparently now days they have pre sniffers cause new computers on first fire smell like nothing.

Hi Dawid, if you want to maybe fix that little crappy psu. I think you simply blew the fuse inside the psu itself. if you have a multi-meter check the fuse for continuity. besides that there psu's that could fit in there. but is it worth the trouble. Probably not, just strip it for any good parts and keep them for a rainy day.

'ey, Dawid. Look right at 15:09, pause the vid right there. See the little tube of black heatshrink next to the big yellow block? That usually has a little gray peanut-shaped thing in it, a resistor. (The gray body means that it's of flame-resistant construction, which, given what it does, is a very good idea.) This will be a low-value resistor, usually 10 ohms or less, but a couple of watts. It's a big fella ;) Something like a 5ohm 3w job is not uncommon. This is used as an inrush limiter (to keep that ginormous can capacitor nearby, the one they had to cut the heatsinks around, from sucking up too much juice at power-on -- it's the intake filter capacitor) as well as a dirt-cheap fuse. The industry term is "fusible link" or "fusible resistor". Replace with one of identical rating AND GRAY BODY and your power supply should spring back up like a monster in Frankenstein's lab ;) but with a lot less work. Companies like Mouser and Digikey sell to the big boys, but they also sell to little hobbyists... they'll have your part, and even a Radio Shack (remember them?) style "carpet burner" 30w iron will, regrettably, do you to get the old one out and the new one in. It's not a challenging repair... TBH, for a beginner in electronics, it doesn't get much simpler than this.

you can replace that psu. they are called flex atx psu. they are used for servers n etc, although the only ones you can get with standard atx pinout (and not using like Dells 12volt pinout), are usually around 500-600watt. its rumoured that enhanced has a 750watt flex atx psu, but it seems impossible to find a legitimate one. so biggest ones you can get are 600 watt.

I have this machine! Though, mine came with a 1080 GPU in it, and 2 sticks of 8gb (laptop) RAM. My issue was also the PSU. I cannibalized the 1080, SSD and HDD into my first effort at building my own PC (turned out great!), but I think I will hang onto this case and custom components in case I feel like making a project out of it sometime down the line. I am still enough of a little girl at heart that I think the Transformers head is pretty rad, and I'd probably regret it if I got rid of it!

Commenting at 7:00 You can tell that it is 100% a memory limitation based off the fact that the CPU is pinned but only using 30 watts

I don't know which is worse. The RAM configuration, or that side door warranty label that voids your warranty if you open the PC to upgrade the RAM configuration. Although I will admire that the CPU and GPU were actually well matched, at least in BF5, after the RAM upgrade.

mine is GTX 1080 and have water cooling system with the same case, MSI Aegis X

A friend of mine bought this computer in a bundle that came with a huge ultrawide 60hz monitor with a bunch of garbage peripherals for 5000 dollars with the idea of upgrading every component inside of it. He ended up trading it for an actual atx computer a year later.

Just to note, FSP makes solid PSU's they are actually a PSU OEM for other PSU retailers. But yeah it did what it should have done, when you go way above the current draw to fast its going to blow, and not just trip. It probably blew internal PPTC fuses beyond the ability to reset themselves (these won't be those low voltage glass encased fuses).