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These are a few of my favorite scales.
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There's lots of good scales out there. There's even plenty of great ones. But most of them have a few things in common. As a theorist, I get really excited when I find scales that don't play by the normal rules, scales that push back on our understanding of how scales even work, and some of my favorites of those are the ones developed by Olivier Messiaen. What makes them so unique? Well, they're not. That's what makes them awesome.
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@adrianbautista2308
@adrianbautista2308 2 года назад
I have the music theory knowledge of a rock, but I find these types of videos endlessly fascinating even if I have virtually no idea what you're talking about. I just like the cool music
@E4439Qv5
@E4439Qv5 2 года назад
And left-handed doodling. I like the pictograms.
@alexsterite3882
@alexsterite3882 Год назад
i relate so much
@elmiklosyt652
@elmiklosyt652 Год назад
Same thing
@Qofkidwhrbd
@Qofkidwhrbd Год назад
Thank you for your honesty I feel a little better now bout myself
@charlenemisuraca3473
@charlenemisuraca3473 8 месяцев назад
i agree
@AJ-wh1tw
@AJ-wh1tw 2 года назад
You may feel this is maybe a bit too niche for RU-vid, but this is exactly what I subscribe for and and will absolutely be putting this to use in my composition exercises if not a new piece. Keep up the great work, this is hands down my favorite theory channel on RU-vid.
@drew-et1mm
@drew-et1mm 2 года назад
considering they have more than half a million subs i think theyve found their niche
@TheFakeyCakeMaker
@TheFakeyCakeMaker 2 года назад
The whole purpose of RU-vid is for this kind of niche, it didn't fully interest me but I still think it's a great video and very necessary.
@DavidB-rx3km
@DavidB-rx3km 2 года назад
It sounds terrible
@sleepdeep305
@sleepdeep305 2 года назад
Too niche for RU-vid? You underestimate the scale of this humble video streaming platform on the internet
@DrummerDaddio
@DrummerDaddio 2 года назад
This "relatively obscure topic that just most people aren't going to care about" is what caused me to hit the subscribe button after watching probably a dozen of your videos based on algorithmic recommendations. This concept is fascinating! Thanks for making this video.
@wellurban
@wellurban 2 года назад
Obscure topics (neo-Riemannian theory) is how I found this channel in the first place, so I always relish these deep dives.
@senboy9002
@senboy9002 2 года назад
10 months later I'm watching this after also having seen their videos, and I also realised I'm not subscribed
@samiraperi467
@samiraperi467 2 года назад
"This rhythm is a palindrome" *draws a tacocat* Well played, sir.
@SAHanson
@SAHanson 2 года назад
If you're not already aware, what you were describing was basically a mathematical group generated by a set of intervals acting on a set of tones. It's a pretty fundamental area of mathematics I would suggest checking out if you're interested in this sort of thing.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 2 года назад
Fantastic video! This is the best video on this subject I've ever seen!
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan 2 года назад
The bloke has a way at making stuff make sense both intellectually / mathematically and well as what your ears hear and importantly how you feel when you hear what he is talking about
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 2 года назад
@@MidlifeRenaissanceMan agreed 100%!
@Rattiar
@Rattiar 2 года назад
This is also true for me, but it is honestly the FIRST video on the subject I have ever seen. ;) But that makes it excellent, too. Thanks, 12Tone for introducing me to so many cool new ways of looking at music.
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan 2 года назад
@@Producelikeapro Its giving language to what is happening when you play notes together, and thus opening new approaches to evoking emotions, building tension and knowing how you can take the listener on a journey of expectations that surprises them with the unexpected, yet is ultimately satisfying. Too many people want to fill in the space and resolve all too quickly. I love to finish a set with a song that ends on Chord IV
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan
@MidlifeRenaissanceMan 2 года назад
@@Rattiar he has a knack of explaining something succinctly, yet comprehensively. Dude's got some really good stuff going on between his ears
@destianpatrianagara1119
@destianpatrianagara1119 2 года назад
Ride scale Life good Scale fight back *KILL SCALE!!* Scale gone Regret.
@leftaroundabout
@leftaroundabout 2 года назад
There's a lot of valid criticism to be put against recommendation algorithms like the one used by RU-vid, but complaining that it “doesn't reward niche content” and using that as an argument to switch to a platform with no algorithm at all makes no sense. On the contrary, that's actually the one thing going _for_ such algorithms: that they manage to find an audience even for niche material. _Of course_ there won't be millions of people watching a video about Messiaen's modes. If they did, it wouldn't be niche anymore. Yet there are _some_ people watching it. Now, some of these may have explicitly searched for Messiaen. Many just follow your channel. But some will also have shown an interest in related topic and then get this recommendation, even though they didn't know about Messiaen at all. Again, that's not saying RU-vid is perfect. But none of its problems are really fixed by Nebula. In fact the closed nature makes it much worse IMO. The copyright debacles on RU-vid are a big issue, but it is a _political_ one that Nebula can't fix in the long run. The fact the Google tracks out every move (with RU-vid just one of its tentacles) is horrible, but if Nebula wants to fix that it needs to put transparency first. The closed subscription model is the opposite of a fix here. For now, RU-vid + Patreon is the best there is. I can absolutely see how creators want something more secure and hope to get it in Nebula, but this way just lies another _commercialisation of indy culture_ trap.
@NeilCrouse99
@NeilCrouse99 2 года назад
3:19... And I think this is what has made the best music for millennia. That's the beauty and magic of music. When you like something, BUT DON'T KNOW WHY?? As an armature musician, I've found that when the secret to a song is reveled, it tends to change the "Magic", feeling once obtained by just listening and enjoying without analyzing. *An example for myself would be learning a song that has unusual timing. I'm a base player and when learning some of the "RUSH" catalogue of work, (Getty Lee has AMAZING chops). RUSH had songs that involve Intros and verses are composed out of ten bars in 5/8, other parts are in 11/8. Once I learned to count them out it changed the way I felt about the song. It lost a little "Magic"... However, I did gain intrigue and a new, much deeper outlook of these songs that I didn't possess prior to learning the song timings, so I guess there was is a payoff after all.. LOL. Peace from Canada all...* *: )*
@MrDevin1125
@MrDevin1125 2 года назад
I like the melody you composed at the beginning. Sounds a bit like if Tom Waits tried to write late 60s baroque pop
@Skip6235
@Skip6235 2 года назад
“It’s a palindrome” *draws a taco cat* Well played
@gman1515
@gman1515 2 года назад
"Let's assume for the sake of argument that it's cool" Or we could all just own the fact that it's cool anyway.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 года назад
Yeah, if you say it confidently enough it's a fact.
@seiph80
@seiph80 2 года назад
I *definitely DO* care about topics like these! I enjoy very much your music theory videos, especially these on scales.
@sihplak
@sihplak 2 года назад
Interestingly, a truncation of mode 3 is a more commonly used (and named) scale: the augmented scale! It has a repeating pattern of minor-third then half-step (for example, C D# E G Ab B). It's interesting that Messiaen didn't include the augmented scale in his list since he included the whole tone and diminished scales.
@trioofone8911
@trioofone8911 2 года назад
As a reformed classicist that has been slowly transmogrifying into a folk musician for the last several decades (think Kafka's roach, but musically. Lol), I find this kind of navel gazing fascinating. I might sit down and drill interesting edgy modes like this on my violin--I might even compose something that uses all that intellectually satisfying structural imposition--then I take my fiddle (same instrument, but the title is related to function, not form) and go to an Irish or Scottish session and rediscover the joy of just playing simple melodies with others while the pint I'm drinking starts settling in, and I think "Messian who?". Seriously though, I love your videos, and I'm just being snobbish (the characteristics of snobbery happens in all kinds of music, btw. Lol). Keep it up: always interesting and useful, and I love them doodles
@eustishyre5850
@eustishyre5850 2 года назад
You talent of so entertainingly explaining why people should appreciate such a niche topic is amazing. I've got a high school band understanding of music with very little actual theory, but this was awesome!! I can't imagine the work that goes into a video like this. You are awesome!!
@clemerrolpearson3470
@clemerrolpearson3470 2 года назад
I'm a graduate student in conducting and I've just been thinking about Messiaen a lot lately, so this is perfect timing! Thank you!
@wewladstbh
@wewladstbh 2 года назад
omg funny cyclic group actions on sets of notes! so quirky! great vid. Actually yeah there's quite a lot of group theory in here - simple groups and shieeet at 13:30
@mooseyard
@mooseyard 2 года назад
This is very much group theory, one of the most fundamental parts of mathematics. Group theory studies sets of objects (notes, here) and operations on those objects (like transposition or inversion) and studies the patterns. Common patterns are sequences of operations that result in no change, or that combine to form another operation. You can build arithmetic out of group theory by taking sets of numbers and operations like addition, but groups show up in so many other places like crystals and Rubik's cubes and clocks…
@rome8180
@rome8180 2 года назад
I love videos like this because they help me break out of compositional ruts. My goal when I learn an uncommon scale is to use it in a way that makes it accessible as possible. The results are usually interesting.
@iansandon8057
@iansandon8057 2 года назад
I love you scale explorations. I don't always understand the deep ramifications, and they explore a level of musicianship/theory far beyond the vague understanding I developed when taking my piano/singing exams, but you always make the concepts coherent and digestible! Thanks 👍
@vazqueeziee
@vazqueeziee 6 месяцев назад
I went into a rabbit hole using messiaen's modes to make music. Currently stuck on Mode 7 and I was looking around for tips. This video gave me a different perspective on how to deal with Mode 7. Thanks man.
@najrenchelf2751
@najrenchelf2751 2 года назад
"Back to the Drawing Board" has a completely different meaning on this channel and I love it! :D
@askyle
@askyle 2 года назад
Great video as usual 👍 I think that the word "invariance" would be a more apt description of what's going on here than "impossibility"; ie if transposing a scale leaves you with the same set of notes, that makes it "invariant under transposition"; this is in general deeply connected to the idea of symmetry, as you indeed pointed out.
@luxinveritate3365
@luxinveritate3365 2 года назад
Invariance is the right word for it, mostly in serial music. I have written for various, invariant rows. I think he calls it impossible for colloquial use and understanding.
@AidanMmusic96
@AidanMmusic96 2 года назад
Brilliant summary of a brilliant book! I always wondered why I felt like the tritone was the most important interval in equal temperament (an exact half-octave) and the clock diagram is fabulous.
@Phosfit
@Phosfit 2 года назад
I’m new to music composition but I haven’t been so lost while watching one of your videos as this one. Some very inspiring patterns though
@alnitaka
@alnitaka 2 года назад
I note that scales and chords are inverses of each other. The notes that are not in a major (or any diatonic) scale form a 6-9 chord; for example the inverse of C major is F# A# C# D# G#, F#6-9, the five black notes. I note here that the inverse of Mode 2 is the diminished chord G# B D F, and the inverse of Mode 3 is the augmented chord Ab C E.
@mjears
@mjears Год назад
Really well explained! The clearest presentation and analysis of Messiaen’s modes and principles I have seen.
@choimdachoim9491
@choimdachoim9491 Год назад
Since childhood I've been a fan of music that is outside the boundaries of "normal" music, but, there is such a thing as more technical than musical. I just want to listen to music, I don't want to think about it. 5 years in college with a music composer major didn't change that for me.
@choimdachoim9491
@choimdachoim9491 Год назад
As an example of "technical, you should study Bartok or (if 74 year old memory serves me right) Schoenberg. When I heard "Rite of Spring" as a teenager, I pretty much stopped listening to Top 40 for a decade or so.
@tebi1kurieudidon172
@tebi1kurieudidon172 2 года назад
I love that book, I haven’t been reading it in a while and Thanks to you I will ! It has inspired me every time I read it. Messiaen FTW.
@danielmccready1501
@danielmccready1501 2 года назад
Relatively obscure music theory is my JAM!
@shacharh5470
@shacharh5470 2 года назад
As a fan of Messiaen and of unconventional scales, this video was fascinating for me. I don't know how well it will do on youtube as you said, but in my opinion it's one of your best.
@michellestoaevertsson3830
@michellestoaevertsson3830 2 года назад
I've been thinking about the Curiosity Stream deal for a while, and I decided to get it today. I might get it for someone else too. It feels good to get to support this channel. I'm not even musically literate. Most of what you say goes over my head. I just love the way you think and talk, and even though it's not really the right level for me, I still think I learn some stuff.
@Durmomo0
@Durmomo0 2 года назад
OMG you made a "I just think its neat" reference
@MattWinkler1
@MattWinkler1 2 года назад
Keep on exploring the weird and mathematical side of music! I just finished building a guitar in equal-tempered Bohlen-Pierce tuning because of your previous video 🤘
@sharadsemilo
@sharadsemilo 2 года назад
Would love to hear it
@MattWinkler1
@MattWinkler1 2 года назад
Just finished and uploaded! :)
@HeBreaksLate
@HeBreaksLate 2 года назад
I watch your videos not because I am passionate about music but because you are and I enjoy listening people talk about the things they care about.
@mymo_in_Bb
@mymo_in_Bb Год назад
I'm really glad to have stumbled across this video. I'm planning to write some music with one of Sappho's poems as lyrics, and I wanted to include some modal spiciness. I was disappointed to find that lesbian, the dialect of Greek that Sappho spoke, was a form of Aeolian, so I'd have to use some other mode for modal spiciness. This is definitely worth experimenting with.
@kristas-not
@kristas-not 2 года назад
very cool! i was looking at the intersection of combinatorics and music this morning... then i ran across this :)
@Racosz
@Racosz 2 года назад
There are five basic forms to divide the octave into equal parts (NOTE: Existence of octave equivalence, enharmonic equivalence and 12 tone equal temperament is assumed in order to understand this) FIRST BASIC FORM - TRITONE - 12 semitones divided by 2 equal parts = 6. The result of this division indicates the number of semitones needed to divide the octave into 2 equal parts. The result of the division also indicates the number of transpositions of these scales (T0, T1, T2, T3, T4, T5) Any intervallic pattern (measured in semitones) whose sum is 6 generates a mode of limited transposition. For instance: 1+5 (and its rotation 5+1) 2+4 (and its rotation 4+2) 1+1+4 (and its rotations 1+4+1/4+1+1) -------------------- Messiaen's Mode 5 1+2+3 (and its rotations 2+3+1/3+1+2) 2+1+3 (and its rotations 1+3+2/3+2+1) 1+1+1+3 (and its rotations 1+1+3+1/1+3+1+1/3+1+1+1) -------------------- Messiaen's Mode 4 1+1+2+2 (and its rotations 1+2+2+1/2+2+1+1/2+1+1+2/1+1+2+2) -------------------- Messiaen's Mode 6 1+1+1+1+2 (and its rotations 1+1+1+2+1/1+1+2+1+1/1+2+1+1+1/2+1+1+1+1) -------------------- Messiaen's Mode 7 SECOND BASIC FORM - AUGMENTED TRIAD - 12 semitones divided by 3 equal parts = 4. The result of this division indicates the number of semitones needed to divide the octave into 3 equal parts. The result of the division also indicates the number of transpositions of these scales (T0, T1, T2, T3) Any intervallic pattern (measured in semitones) whose sum is 4 generates a mode of limited transposition. For instance: 1+3 (and its rotation 3+1) 1+1+2 (and its rotations 1+2+1/2+1+1) -------------------- Messiaen's Mode 3 THIRD BASIC FORM - DIMINISHED CHORD - 12 semitones divided by 4 equal parts = 3. The result of this division indicates the number of semitones needed to divide the octave into 4 equal parts. The result of the division also indicates the number of transpositions of these scales (T0, T1, T2) Any intervallic pattern (measured in semitones) whose sum is 3 generates a mode of limited transposition. For instance: 1+2 (and its rotation 2+1) -------------------- Messiaen's Mode 2 FOURTH BASIC FORM - WHOLE TONE SCALE - 12 semitones divided by 6 equal parts = 2. The result of this division indicates the number of semitones needed to divide the octave into six equal parts. The result of the division also indicates the number of transpositions of these scales (T0, T1) -------------------- Messiaen's Mode 1 FIFTH BASIC FORM - CHROMATIC SCALE- 12 semitones divided by 12 equal parts = 1. The result of this division indicates the number of semitones needed to divide the octave into twelve equal parts. The result of the division also indicates the number of transpositions of these scales (T0). This scale only can be divided into intervals smaller than the semitone (quarter tones, etc) In brief, there are 16 sonorities (included the 5 basic forms listed above) with limited transposition: 7 modes of limited transposition by Messiaen and 9 remaining sonorities which are truncations of Messiaen's modes. If you are familiar with pc set theory or another combinatory tool, you can trace another interesting properties of these modes. Playing and transposing these modes is the best method to catch their particular essence. Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia. Excellent RU-vid channel.
@mattstarwolf08
@mattstarwolf08 Год назад
"That gives us really cool options" Draws a picture of McDonalds.
@GeorgeZwierzchowskipianomusic
@GeorgeZwierzchowskipianomusic 2 года назад
last page of Liszts sospiro is definately mode 2 over many bars in a languid harp arpeggio that runs through 4 tonalities symetrically. he also used it in passing in his sonata but there its more a harmonic event.
@ToastyBoy17
@ToastyBoy17 2 года назад
Reasons to subscribe: Other people: the neat and obscure niche of music are interesting Me: drawing Cell to represent a music cell you’re using to make a scale 😎
@tartaruga42
@tartaruga42 Год назад
Great video as always. My only suggestion is it would have been cool if you showed us a direct example of the modes/rhythms, etc in Messiaen's music as you're explaining. I don't know if it would make RU-vid's monetization system upset though
@welliamism
@welliamism 2 года назад
toru takemitsu made extensive use of the third mode throughout his career, definitely worth checking out if you enjoy that sound! also thank you for the wonderful video on the modes of limited transposition, they're a favorite subject of mine
@HermeticJazz
@HermeticJazz 3 месяца назад
Here I am trying to figure out how the blues scales work and now ive gone down a rabbit hole.
@metzli5797
@metzli5797 2 года назад
I don't know much of anything about music theory. I like to watch videos by well educated people explaining just about any subject though, especially unique/niche topics. Hearing the enthusiasm for an unusual topic entertains me, even if I don't fully understand the topic.
@pjillett
@pjillett 2 года назад
I completely agree with AJ, this video was perfectly fascinating As an ethnomusicologist composer it has sparked creative ideas. Thank you.
@mikevanderwolf8575
@mikevanderwolf8575 2 года назад
It’s more exciting than the commercials on tv….in breaks during a bad football game. So there is that.
@rosalinaenjoyer9810
@rosalinaenjoyer9810 2 года назад
Found this channel in my recommended and can't stop watching, keep up the good work man
@mattrowntree9369
@mattrowntree9369 2 года назад
A penny farthing from The Prisoner for "six"? Well played, sir. Well played.
@Gwyll_Arboghast
@Gwyll_Arboghast 2 года назад
there are more scales that allow transpositions which maintain tonality, if you are not restricted to octave regularity. for instance a simple repeating tetrachord
@bobblues1158
@bobblues1158 2 года назад
Who came first Messiaen or Slonimsky? The Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns contains all of Messiaen´s modes. Jazz musicians have been using these materials as long as these materials have been published. Joseph Schillinger is worth a look at. Jazz guys will not think this material is obscure. Frank Zappa was into this for sure. I myself am fascinated by systems. Thank you for putting this up!
@ecifircas5477
@ecifircas5477 2 года назад
I’ve been looking for new composers to get me out of a creative rut, I think I’m gonna check this guy out!
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 2 года назад
This is so cool! This video single-handedly got me out of a big rut :D
@jeremiahsweeney6577
@jeremiahsweeney6577 2 года назад
I think we can actually stay within 12TET to find more modes of limited transposition, but the remaining ones span more than an octave. The so-called super-ultra-hyper-mega-meta lydian (as Jacob Collier calls it) would be one example, where the cell is made of W W W h. This scale takes several octaves to complete, making it maybe less useful to just play as a scale and more as another way of approaching chord extensions and as a way of changing colors while in motion. For example, I've played around with #15 chords using this scale as a framework. The #15 is enharmonically equivalent to the b9, but called something different because you can absolutely put both the 9 *and* the #15 in the same chord! Its basic form looks like this: C E G B D F# A C#, but a more nuanced voicings could be C G D E B C# F#. You can do something similar with other modes, too. Some will move clockwise on the circle of 5ths, some will move counterclockwise.
@cravensean
@cravensean 2 года назад
I like the melody. It reminded me of Cyriak. (He's an animator who does his own music.)
@alfredyerger2528
@alfredyerger2528 2 года назад
I strongly object to the idea that these transpositions or reflections are impossible. It is exactly the point of those symmetries that they ARE possible. Just because something doesn't have an effect doesn't mean it's impossible. In fact, it's so possible, it happens by doing nothing.
@OscarGeronimo
@OscarGeronimo 2 года назад
The idea of non-retrogradable rhythms makes sense as a phenomenon (something that happens and has an impression rather than being only an intellectual concept with no perceptible identity) when you think about it in the sense of writing music using claves as rhythmic basis. Much musical in lat America is written with a rhythmic patter as basis behind the flow of the music, we call it clave, other cultures have that. The basic ones are 3-2 and 2-3 (same but starting on different places) and depending on the one used by a song it determines the implicit sense of patterns of groupings in the phrases. These Messiaen rhythms seem to make more sense to me once I see them as claves at the base of compositions.
@Patrick-gm3fb
@Patrick-gm3fb 2 года назад
You might be giving RU-vid's algorithms too little credit. I've never watched anything on your channel before and RU-vid had this pretty high on my feed. Super cool. A bit complicated though so I'll have to go through this again. I'll definelty be playing around with these ideas though. I've already had the idea of using this kind of ambiguity in my music but never thought about creating new scales to do it.
@stevechinz
@stevechinz Год назад
Love this kind of video. Love your channel. Just one point. Which prevents more viewers from enjoying your work, RU-vid's algorithm, or a paywall?
@logiclrd
@logiclrd Год назад
Whole tone scale also known as the hexatonic scale. The music for the SNES game Illusion of Gaia has some songs in this scale. :-)
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 2 года назад
I have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds great. Thanks, magic music man.
@randyvillars1778
@randyvillars1778 Год назад
Very well presented. Very clear and forward moving in a logical way. Thank you!
@ZeugmaP
@ZeugmaP 2 года назад
This video is basically math, and I love it ! I remember when I drew the circle of fifths and discovered that augmented and diminished 7 chords respectively made a triangle and square shape. Btw, isn't it neat that those shapes are the same when drawn over a "chromatic circle" like you did ? I wonder if a circle could be built using different intervals and what sort of shapes we would get.
@tomcairns3757
@tomcairns3757 2 года назад
'With your permission id like to talk about why you should care, this video is sponsored by curiosity stream'
@arizonagreenbee
@arizonagreenbee 2 года назад
it's nice to see another nb musician!!
@VinceWhitacre
@VinceWhitacre 2 года назад
Hey Cory, happy birthday! 🎂🎉 (no idea when it actually is, but from the last Ghost Notes I assume I'm at least within a month)
@SmartHobbies
@SmartHobbies 2 года назад
It sounds somewhat like the Haunted Mansion song at Disneyworld to me.
@gingercore69
@gingercore69 2 года назад
I think i found a new favorite scale, thanks!
@emmalinecolvin6532
@emmalinecolvin6532 2 года назад
His name is Cory!? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS
@sevidmusic
@sevidmusic 2 года назад
Thank you for these insights. Your videos are awesome. 😎
@Rubrickety
@Rubrickety 2 года назад
Props for the 🌮 🐈 doodle. Made me laugh.
@Jimijam22
@Jimijam22 2 года назад
This was very informative. Thank you for giving me a new insight on new musical topics
@abberss
@abberss Год назад
It sounds like a scale that Yes would use. hmm... have they used it? I guess I have a good excuse to listen to some Yes today!
@ayekp6700
@ayekp6700 2 года назад
9:01 Naaa, na na na na naa naa naa, na Katamari Damacyyyyy
@mr.creeper6836
@mr.creeper6836 Год назад
Never really enjoyed music theory in school, so this is a pleasant surprise.
@scottkunghadrengsen2604
@scottkunghadrengsen2604 2 года назад
Wonderful. You really got me going on these modes..
@robertpierce1981
@robertpierce1981 2 года назад
Deep stuff. I’d have to trash 40 or so years of mechanical figuring and study music theory all that time to really understand this. I do however deeply appreciate this video and quite like trying to understand the steps and changes that make these chords and building blocks of musical sound.
@markop.1994
@markop.1994 2 года назад
I didnt notice if it was mentioned but I got a scale that i use alot when im by myself that has some tonal ambiguity. Its actually more of a tonality because im using multiple scales technically but i digress. In E: E F G# A# B D. It is equally in E and A# at the same time like this. If i want to emphasize that its E i will add C or C# accordingly If i want to emphasize that its A# (which i would rethink as Bb to avoid double sharps like this: Bb Cb D E F Ab) i would add Gb or G. I will sometimes (when playing in this tonality) even play notes Gb and C at the same time to emphasize both scales at once, then play B fully diminished chord (functions as the 5 of both E and A#/Bb) to "resolve" to an E Petruska chord (Bb major triad and E major triad at the same time) *warning this resolution is cacophonous; inviting chaos, delusions of power. May cause madness. Use sparingly.*
@greenhousemoss
@greenhousemoss 2 года назад
The man's left handed! That's why he writes from right to left. I thought it odd till I got to 8:30 when I found myself frustrated I couldn't see the notes as he was writing. Suddenly, a lost 3 years of memories flooded my head as I recalled my math teacher would always write our notes on the projector really fast (I love math). Thing was she was also left handed so as she wrote you couldn't see what she was writing and for a guy who was very bad at spelling at the time I needed to see those words else they not reach the paper. I have nothing against left handed people but it's one of those things that bugs me and seval left handed people I know. I'm just glad to see the man thought about this painful fact of life: You can't see what a left handed person is currently writing, you must wait.
@pneumachina
@pneumachina 2 года назад
i loved it! plain and clear, and incredibly funny. very synthetic and useful! thanks! nice tip on nebula, too!
@saskia_de_combat
@saskia_de_combat 2 года назад
I gotta say, even though I will certainly need to watch the video a few times to really understand it, it is fascinating
@monsterfukk7737
@monsterfukk7737 2 года назад
Yall complaining about the title... blame the algorithm, not 12Tone. You gotta do what you gotta do to get the bag.
@Stonehawk
@Stonehawk 2 года назад
What you composed is kinda neat.
@aguscg7897
@aguscg7897 2 года назад
wow i didn't know this book thank you very much
@imagesandwords4327
@imagesandwords4327 2 года назад
Very interesting scale(s), but I got lost about halfway through this video. Still, this video inspired 4 guitar parts, which I quicky arranged on top of some nice chords. Will record soon and upload to my channel.
@markop.1994
@markop.1994 2 года назад
I like the thing at the beginning!
@ValkyRiver
@ValkyRiver 2 года назад
There is only one mode of limited transposition in 19-TET.
@brandan7761
@brandan7761 Месяц назад
12 tone system just lets you use whatever you want
@romainliblau6406
@romainliblau6406 2 года назад
Great video 😌 I love these ones where you dive into a musical device !!
@ultimatemacchia
@ultimatemacchia 2 года назад
Jokes on you! For me all music theory is an obscure topic I don't care about, yet I still find myself clicking on your videos in the subscriptions section from time to time god knows why ... maybe I just find them neat
@kevinpurrington3077
@kevinpurrington3077 2 года назад
"but it doesn't actually mean anything" *draws penguin*
@rollomaughfling380
@rollomaughfling380 Год назад
02:23 100,001 points for *taco cat!*
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 2 года назад
I wanted to write a piece of music a while ago which required defining a new scale (I didn't find any reference to it online). I'm pretty sure it had limited transposition though, so now I wonder which mode it was.
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 2 года назад
My bad, an earlier version of the piece used mode 2, but the final scale didn't have limited transposition.
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 2 года назад
Also, if anyone does know the name of the scale that would be awesome. It has a root, minor second, major second, minor third, sharp fourth, fith, sixth, and minor third, or a pattern of h h h mt h w h w.
@anomymouse5043
@anomymouse5043 Год назад
Beginning begs to composed into a 'everybody sing-along happy-happy summer hit'! Don't you think?? How about it 12-tone?
@Andersans11
@Andersans11 2 года назад
awesome vid love the doodles
@jacobryan365
@jacobryan365 2 года назад
Ahhhhh thank you!! For this video!!!
@JasonQuackenbushonGoogle
@JasonQuackenbushonGoogle 2 года назад
duckrabbit meets messiaen
@davep8221
@davep8221 2 года назад
Those initial rhythm examples make me think of _Low_Rider_ by War.
@Anamoly_
@Anamoly_ 2 года назад
I Challenge You To Do YOUR Analysis on the 2002 Danny Elfman Spider-man Theme. OMG so many Tritone Sub Key Changes. Your head might explode. But as Palpatine said, "DO IT."
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