Well, this got me to 275 and got me through a stretch of 4 out of 6 birdies finishing my best round ever at -4. Now I need to learn gaps and keep practicing. Thanks
Heck yea! I’m glad it helped, and Congratz on your best round ever! I have a video on gap hitting and some more drills if you want to check those out and maybe they can help too!
I’ve been working hard on trying to move my whole torso as a unit - coiling the whole torso instead of reaching my arm back. Letting the head and spine stay in place and let the torso rotate as freely as possible. This has improved both distance and timing. However, I’ve started grip locking much more than before. So I reckon this could be the next step in my backhand evolution, especially contributing to greater accuracy.
From my experiences coiling the whole torso and not reaching back has definitely helped improve distance and smoothness, and this was a next step thing for me for sure! Learning to pull my arm through ahead of my torso really helped me get easy distance!
the kinetic chain starts from the vertical and horizontal ground forces of your mass and gravity, proceeding upwards through your feet, then hips, then shoulders seabas22 -- Standstill & Figure 8 Motion Pattern
Very similar to hitting a baseball or golf ball(can't hit what you can't see). If your head gets ahead of the swing it throws everything off which results in a loss of power and accuracy. Great video and great advice.
I’m glad you liked the video! Yea there is definitely a debate on pulling vs pushing the disc through.. not sure how tho because if you just pay attention to pro in slo mo or anybody who throws far they pull their arm ahead of their shoulders!
Makes sense! If you look at the body as the handle of the whip then you'll need to stop/slow it to allow the tension to travel through the chain to your fingers
It is such a struggle of mine with form.. some days it is so easy for me and powerful throws feel natural and then somedays it’s like I’ve forgotten how to throw completely!
I've been looking closely at pro drives for quite a while and I noticed that their upper arms remain pretty much stationary, perpendicular to the torso through the release. Some guy on youtube did a computer model of a human arm throwing a disc and the fastest possible release was obtained when the upper arm didn't move at all, allowing the lower arm to snap out. When I learned how to keep the upper arm as still as possible while allowing the lower arm to guide the disc into the power pocket then snap out (like Aderhold explains in that video), I gained about 30% more distance effortlessly. Some pros can get this whip effect even with a bit of 'pulling' but all of them snap the disc out with the upper arm motionless. The idea of pulling the disc through seems to be trendy with youtube coaches right now but in reality it's misleading a lot of disc golfers, I think.
Everybody has different opinions as far as what works for them and what doesn’t! That’s why I always try to clarify in my videos that these things have helped me and hopefully they help other people! I’m not sure if I have seen the video you are talking about, but if it is the one I’m thinking of he is referring to “pushing” the disc out of your chest which would cause the arm to get ahead of the torso a little bit. At the end of the day everybody has different terminology and cues that help them throw better!
@@guyincognito. I just want to point out that there is still some horizontal abduction of the upper arm, from the power pocket to the release point - even in Ezra Aderhold's video. Keep in mind a lot of pros say stuff that aren't actually occurring in reality, or they teach what they aren't actually doing themselves. I used to think the upper arm was locked at a 90 degree angle, relative to the shoulders, but that's not been born out in real life. It just looks that way. You can see that in the overhead views of Simon and Drew in the Overthrow Slomo Form videos by using the . and , buttons (for example). Here is what Coach Chris Taylor said last year on DGCR: "Highest percentage of power to disc comes from horizontal abduction of upper arm." Also: "It is important to think of horizontal abduction (picture elbowing a door) in the context of the entire motion of a throw." Additionally: "In a DG throw, getting in to a deep power pocket is about the timing of moving your upper arm into position before the rotational force of your shoulders prematurely extend your elbow."
I'm totally on your side! But I always end up with a swoop that ends in an airbounce! how can I fix this? No matter with a running start or standing still😂 thank you
Haha 😂 I used to do the same thing a lot, and still do sometimes. For me, I was typically coiling/pulling through from high to low and so I had to do the opposite very low to high and eventually it balanced out to more of a medium to high pull through!
Good question, I feel like my hips start to move just a little bit before I pull. Due to planting before I pull if that makes sense? Given I am not the best at hip engagement, I just try to position them correctly in the walk up and plant properly to get as much lower body into the through as possible. Does that answer your question?
Nah, this is exactly how the disc is thrown. You sling your arm, your arm needs to move faster than your body. I myself wouldn't necessarily use the word "pull", but if you watch the video, the pulling is more correct motion. In the end, shoulder turn is not very vast motion per say. It's all how you can make your arm to go faster. Faster arm = more speed, its that simple.
