This Simple Problem Took Speedrunners 25 Years To Solve 

I will let you know when there is an update on the ongoing trial. Until then, thanks for the support

"Your honour, may I be excused from the court? There's a new speedrunning strategy in Golden Eye I have to report on." Those photos of Karl were the best bit of advertising I've seen for a product.

No fucking way you used Billy Mitchel's trial for your Magic Spoon add 😂😂😂

Dude is literally earning money with photos going to trial against Billy. Absolute legend! I hope Billy will lose so hard, that he will be forced to start to admit everything.

Great to see another upload, Karl! Hope everything is going well re: the trial

As a programmer, these explosion rules make perfect sense to me.

Kinda messed up i can pay attention to “throwing and dropping mines 101” instead of biology all day long.

Damn you do actually look really good in those pictures

Ah dang, I'd hate to have to deal with cameras and paparazzi while going to trial Keep your head up Jobst and thank you for all the entertainment

Me: hoping for a trial update Karl: DAMN I LOOK GOOD 😎 Me: Ok

Only clicking those vids because i want to hear Karl calling me a Legend

I'm sure magic spoon is delicious yet I'm not eating $10 boxes of cereal.

Another great video mate👍 Best of luck on the trial, you absolute LEGEND!!

Can't wait to watch this when I actually wake up Yeah I'm glad I woke up today

"I frames? More like Fine frames, look at me." - Karl Jobst, probably. Keep winning sir.

Karl you are an absolute legend.

Non speedrunning fans: Wow a whole second that's nothing. Speedrunning fans: Wow a whole second that's incredible.

It's always nice to see a video of your OG game, GoldenEye. After all, it's the whole reason I started following you so many years ago. Man, time flies by far too fast.

Karl: Also Karl: "These rules are... certainly not logical"

sigh again with the sponsor that doesn't actually ship to the country he is from. It's a shame really since I kind of want to try it but don't want to have to go through bs just to get it sent to me.

as a programmer, the way its implemented actually makes complete sense to me. as soon as you said that only 1 thing can damage you at a time, I immediately knew that there would be deterministic system that chooses which damage to apply. it being the first mine that was thrown makes perfect sense, since all the mines would be written into a list and then executed in order. as for which mine deals damage after breaking the glass, I think it is whichever mine hit the glass last. my reasoning: there is a global list of mines that handles all mines that are in the air or on the environment. then there are separate lists of mines for each object. since we know that for objects the mines are processed in reverse order, this should also be true for the detachment logic. so the second mine that was thrown onto the glass "enters" the air first, which puts it into the global list of mines. the mine that hit the glass first will be handled second, so it will end up at the end of the list. since the global list starts processing from the front, the mine that is earlier in the list will deal the damage. which is the mine that hit the glass second.

2:53 Billy: "oh no! He's hot!"

Distance is irrel

0:58 I’ve been telling my girlfriend that for years

Who else is here for billy mitchell comments 🤣🤣🤣🤣

You ate a SPONSOR? Bro, you're supposed to eat the sponsor's product! You can't even get your money now, you ATE THEM! YOU MONSTER!!! This is as bad as that "UberEats driver" incident.. That poor driver.. He didn't stand a chance..

Hey mom, get the camera!! I’m a legend!!!

*sigh* again with the sponsor that doesn't actually ship to the country he is from. It's a shame really since I kind of want to try it but don't want to have to go through bs just to get it sent to me.

Here's what I think goes on with two mines on a destroyed object. When the two mines are placed on the glass pane, they are child objects to the glass pane itself. When the glass pane is destroyed, the game has to let the mines fall on the ground and attach somewhere else. If the glass is destroyed, that means the game can't keep referencing the mines as child objects because the object they were attached to does not exist anymore. I find it likely that the game treats these mines as if they were new mines being thrown by Bond, which means their damage order follows the same rules. If both of them stick to terrain, like they do in the video, the first one to land takes priority. Let me know if I got it right, I don't play GoldenEye. Edit: 11 hours have passed since I wrote this comment, and my opinion has changed. I now think mines retain their original order (second takes priority) when they fall. Read replies for more details.

2:51 "But what I can say is that in the photos captured by the media, I look pretty damn good" *_ABSOLUTELY MOGS US_*

@karljobst clearly doesnt understand physics. Like in real life, the shockwaves cancel itself out. You can try that at home by detonate two grenades while standing exactly in the middle between them, you will have no scratch!

Completely unburdened by in-depth knowledge of goldeneye code I think that if you shatter glass that has mines, that the first mine hitting the floor counts as first placed.

HOLY CRAP! Me and my friends knew about this back in ~2001! We played an absolute insane amount of MP and we realized it was bad to spam mines because you were never guaranteed to hit them with the explosion you wanted. We knew spam mining was a gamble and so we got VERY good at "nading the mines", basically using them like grenades. It's so amusing to know there are probably countless people like us out there who know one little weird trick that would revolutionize a particular speedrun, but will never know it lol.

16:26 Mine-or damage, ay?

why is Jerma in the thumbnail

Always love a Goldeneye video!

karl you absolute legend

Its nice when creators put some thought into their ads. Made me watch instead of skip, and honestly seems like a product I'd like. I appreciate creators promoting things they actually use, or things they think their audience would find useful. I also try to be healthy, and finding good low calorie no sugar substitutes for "bad" food that still taste good is valuable to me. I'll give these a try. Have to rant about sugar for a sec too - Sugar legitimately is the biggest problem in both the US and UK, ahead of drugs, alcohol, violence, etc. It is so detrimental for your health. Hard for younger people to see but once you cross 30 you feel everything you put into your body more, like 10X more. Sugar is devastating and dangerous in excess. Type 2 diabetes is no joke. Not saying ban it, freedom of choice is always preferred, just that its done in moderation and taken as seriously as it should be!

Hey Karl, There's no rush to compile a video together concerning the trial. Many of us overlook the fact that issues we have accumulated over time also may require the equivalent to come to terms with them. I appreciate you, Take care!

Me at 8:23: "Is it possible to set up two mines in such a way, that one mine is far enough to do only a little damage, and another on the glass (or anything else required to be blown), and then rely on the order of explosions damaging the player, to make sure that you get s for the closer one?" And the answer is.... :D

Karl, I haven't played goldeneye since before I was ten, but your narrative cohesiveness is top notch my man. Please never stop making what you do :)

come on now Karl how am I supposed to annoy people by commenting “first” when you upload the video at 2 AM?

He actually does look younger here than he does in previous videos, he's doing something right with his focus on his health.

Magic spoon one i like is fruit loop style one, its the only one i like but im picky. Expensive but good if you need to get the protein in.

This seems pretty obvious from the perspective of a developer.

I have never been so happy to work a night shift in the US. A Karl Jobst video is always a blessing.

16:26 "suffer only /mine-or/ damage" Geddit?? No? Oh...

Goldeneye Speedrunners: "Strat uses two mines? That's the double mine strat." Sensible, straightforward, easy. Portal 2 Speedrunners: "Strat uses two mines? That's Pineapple strat." Chaotic, reckless, unhinged.

Bro just can't miss when uploading 😩

Billy Mitchel knew this strategy 10 years ago.

Whats with the botted comments?

I’m confused about the explosions lingering. If you run into an existing explosion, won’t you get damaged while you are furthest away from it, thus saving you from full damage when running through it?

Good work Karl, you inspired me to start my own channel in gaming

Are there different version of this game? 13:30. It's been awhile since I played but when playing on N64 when I shot out the glass that had a mine on it the mine just floated in mid air. We'd set traps up when playing multiplayer using proximity mines in the library.

Cant wait to hear from your win, I heard you are doing great

Can you do a video exploring the timeline of movement technique discoveries in various games? Like in CS 1.6, strafing and bunnyhopping were discovered immediately, but only years later did stuff like edgebugs, jumpbugs, duckbugs, groundstrafing, countjumping etc. become widely known techniques in the movement community. In fact, just a couple years ago CS 1.6 had a whole new breakthrough regarding strafing, when CSGO players brought "mouseslapping" to 1.6. This immediately lead to knew longjump world records in the game, surpassing years-old records in the process.

3:55 Sponsor is over.

Karl, I have read articles regarding your trial. You are extremely brave to stand up to Mr. Mitchell in Australian court, and I respect the commitment you have invested in trying to seek justice from someone who utilizes a legal system any time they feel butt hurt from what others say. While anything can happen in court, I do wish you and your family the best. Regardless what happens, I know you will persevere, and I hope your defense holds!

1:50 am upload? Fuck yeah im watching

All the best with the Silly Bitchell case brother!

That's right Karl, get back to pumpin' out those nerdy little videos you do. Little girly man's gotta stack that dough up extra fast, now that he finally realizes Big Daddy Mitchell bout' to come and collect son! I TOLD YOU ALL, MR. "THE CHISELED GREEK GOD OF ARCADE GAMING" MITCHELL DONT TAKE NO L'S BABY! IM HITTIN THAT BEWBIE CLUB AND BUYIN' ME A NEW LAMBO SONNNN. MR MITCHELL RULES YOU LITTLE NERDS! WOOOOOOO! MR. MITCHELL OUT, BABYYYYY! 💪😎🤳 - From the Office Of, Mr. William "Freakin" Mitchell PS. I hope this court case doesn't get in the way of our friendship. I still love you, you loveable little girly man you. ❤

Wow! Never thought of how code-based some of that stuff is :D That explains some freak occurences where guys took very low damage from explosions that should've killed them!

Video starts at 10:37

This was a very welcome addition and surprise, especially as I am a massive fan of GoldenEye and speedrunning. I wish you all the very best in your trial and no doubt you have truly amazing lawyers. I am just a little bit worried, as apparently Billy has amazing lawyers too and a couple of review videos stated that there were some very positive moments for him and that things weren’t looking good for you. Let's hope that doesn't materialise into the final outcome. It would also be great to see you win in the ring against him, as per the animated sections in some of your previous videos.

Uploading in the middle of "proceedings"? That's bad**s.

the two thing karl will NEVER stop talking about, billy mitchel and golden eye hahahaa good luck in the trials i hope you wipe the floor with billy

Been following your channel for ages, keep it up!

Don't want to be an asshat but I'm just going to be real about Magic Spoon, there are some downsides with sweeteners. I would not eat too much of it and certainly not daily. Please look into the ingredients and decide for yourself, do not shoot (or remote mine) the messenger.

This content is so good! I can't stop watching!

In the case of the glass breaking, I would guess that the 2nd mine would be detonated first even after being detached from the glass. As soon as the mines are detached, they are no longer children of an object and are instead separate objects appended to the list in the level. Essentially, they are treated equally to mines on terrain even before landing. Since the first deployed mine always detonates first on terrain, because they go in object order, the order would be determined by the order that the mines are detached from the object. Since the objects are listed in reverse order as children, it seems reasonable to believe that the game would iterate through them upon the destruction of the glass in the same way it would if they were detonated on the object. According to that logic, the order should just ramain the same after detachment from the glass, so I'm GUESSING the mines will detonate in reverse order (meaning the most recently deployed mine will do damage).

I disagree with the "it's not logical". As soon as the relevant data structures are known, it is immediately obvious what the behavior is. The behavior is an immediate consequence of the generally accepted way to handle dynamic objects in a non memory managed system. The general object space is most likely an array, whereas the "mines on an object" list is mostly likely a singley linked list. There's a chance the general object space is a linked list but it's unlikely, given the reversed behavior of the two. The object loader keeps a large array starting at space 0 and ands objects to it, incrementing the space by one. Objects are either removed in place (unlikely), or when an object is removed, everything after that is moved back a space. Since most objects are generated at the start of the level, most of the action happens at the end of the array, which is cheaper. Child objects are probably a linked list, since there's no way to know how many there will be, but it's probably small, and they're dynamically generated always. Tbe parent object keeps track of one child object, the most recent one. Each child object would have a link to the next. When you make a new child object you simply give the current most recent child to the new child, and give the new child to the parent. Given that my guess would be A destroyed object most likely "loses" it's children from newest to oldest. Then, if falling objects are considered part of the general world space, they would get added in that order. If falling objects have their own list (for keeping track of physics) they most likely get added to that list newest to oldest, then get added to the world space as they hit. So it'd be hit first, if they hit at the same time newest first

It's like you're wearing nothing at all Nothing at all NOTHING AT ALL

The fact Magic Spoon allowed his code to be LEGEND is actually awesome. I really hope the sponsor money helps with taking care of his family while he's dealing with this trial.

2:56 Ah so that's what the Alchemist does when he isn't cooking up beats, He's Karl's Lawyer lol

Dude i always wondered HOW in multiplayer my friends would survive my hidden mine clusters lmao

Goldeneye speedrunning absolutely blows my mind. This was a really cool vid.

Coming out with a new video in the middle of your trial is a boss move dude the aura is insane LOL

You have a unique voice that.I have grown to love. I also love any Goldeneye (64) videos. It is pretty much the only game I play these days since it's the perfect video game in my eyes. Even if trying to climb the ladder on the Aztec level pisses me off to no end, I still have a great time overall.

Cool people walk away from explosions, but really cool people walk directly into them.

Skipping the middle man and eating the sponsors themselves instead of the product sounds like a time saver.

I can't wait for the trial to end so you can tell us how it went. But, I was wondering if the court transcripts public so I could access and read them. I would totally do a livestream reading all of the available transcripts.

trippin the s. chronological explosion sequencing based on terrain code. completely obvious

I thought you would just use two mines and get hurt by the furthest one so you'd get i-frames, but I assumed there was a reason something so simple wasn't used. I'm glad there was an explanation.

Love me some classic Jobst GoldenEye content

I feel i noticed explosion damage was wonky before but never looked into it

there is nothing better than having breakfast while watching freshly uploaded Karl's video

At this point, I wonder if it wouldn't be simpler to just decompile the rom and start from there...

i love obscure game jank like this. as soon as i figured it out i thought 'oh of course its priority based'

holy cow if I'm ever dragged into court I hope I look that good on camera

Cant wait for ersatz_cats updates. Give him a kiss from me

making a video during trail, what an absolute legend!

Lookin good indeed, my good sir. Cheers from France

How did the court case go lil bro

What about the Case with Billy Mitchell? Was not the Trial some days ago ???

As a programmer, I can see EXACTLY how this was coded...

Speedrunners will never cease to amaze me

GODAMN KARL THOSE PHOTOS GONNA MAKE ME FAINT

Wait why not throw a mine behind you as you run into the room double mine strat so you only get min mine damage from souble mine strat?

pound like gamers and genies

Thanks for some lovely knowledge about Goldeneye Karl! Hope everything goes right in October! Reading about the 5 days was so unreal and be sure we all support you against Billy's lying (even doing it under oath? isn't that just joy)