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Apparently Tobey Maguire is vegan so there's a chance they really did switch out the hot dog for either an empty bun or a vegan dog. I had no idea but that's wild that my joke might have some truth to it lol
@@NerdSyncProductions You noted that his hand holding the 'dog dropped out of frame briefly. My guess is that he simply let the 'dog drop out of the bun at that point. Then he brings it up sideways so the camera doesn't see that it's empty. I think we've spent almost as much time analyzing this frame as the one you made the video about!
I came here to say this! Once you pointed out the missing hotdog, I went on a whim to see if Toby is vegetarian. Turns out he's vegan. So he likely dipped the hotdog down out of frame so he could flick the dog out of the bun before biting it. There is a similar funny story concerning Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite. :)
@@ErikaAllAlong They probably switched out the bun. Many of the vegans I know won't eat anything that has been contaminated by meat, so even touch the hot dog would keep them from eating the bun, as they can't eat or ingest anything dealing with meat.
@NerdSyncProductions careful, if this goes viral you might have to do a video in a few years correcting it (you do, in fact, have way more bacterial cells than a serving of yogurt and at least a thousand more species, but the number of cells per gram depends on the type of yogurt from my quick research) (I'm sorry but i need to use my microbiology degree somehow)
Out came the sun and dried up all the rain.. This "break" from Spiderman did not last long. It was a sequence with sunshine all over. Then the itsy bitsy spider went up the spout again.. He is back to hero-ing.
It's also a common technique in film to just "bread out" foods so it looks like they're eating on camera, but the actor isn't getting as full by eating the full foodstuff
One of the best parts of Spiderman 2!!! Whenever I get to walk outside with the sun hitting me with the right warmth that's just comforting, I play this song in my earbuds and pretend to be Tobey like in the film while walking. It just makes my day every time! 🥰
My favourite thing about the Spider-Man 2 freeze frame is that it's right when Peter starts moving again, so he ends up getting motion blurred in that frame, and it might even be slightly out of focus too, adding to the goofiness of the whole sequence
This might be the most surface level thing, but something I thought about when the freeze frame was shown is 80s/90s-ish movies, especially like the ones set in school, where the movie might end on a freeze frame while a song plays, denoting a sort of happily-ever-after ending. In Peter's case, if this were a different kind of movie, if it were telling a different kind of story, if Peter were a different kind of person, this could be where the story leaves off. Peter could have his happily-ever-after. But because Peter Parker can never catch a break, ever, it *will not* end there. It can't.
Yeah, I think it is very much intended to be a "fake ending". But instead of the freeze frame ending the movie, it was more akin to Zach in Saved By the Bell calling a time-out. A brief respite, but really just the beginning of their problems.
This is so genius too because Peter walks off to the LEFT in that final scene of the montage, representing that despite being happy, he’s only walking backwards and delaying the inevitable, that in the end he’ll have to walk back to that superhero life, back to SPIDER-MAN, before he can truly walk forward.
5:44 also Sam said he didn’t even pick the song himself in that very clip so it’s still entirely possible the guy who actually picked it did have this in mind
To comment on your half a second text bit... ...I'm *pretty sure* there's nothing particularly problematic about Robert Redford, unless you include that time he did away with term limits and got elected five times in Watchmen. Seriously, though, he was generally considered one of the more lefty Hollywood performers, and I'm not *aware* of any sex scandals. And he created the Sundance film festival! The *Sundance* film festival. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid was an important movie.
You have done so many Scooby-Doo videos that I forgot that you were a comic book channel and was shocked to see you do a video about a comic book movie.
Scott, this is the kind of artistic appreciation that makes the internet worthwhile. That was the most moving reaction I've ever seen to what is basically a 2-second meta joke. And your yogurt culture gag actually made me laugh out loud. Please don't ever change. And as a kid who grew up on lots of old movies, I'm so glad to see Butch and Sundance getting highlighted. It's a classic for a reason.
I spent way too long working on this video about a niche subject that I hope is as interesting to you as it was to me lol. Let me know! Also, if you share it on twitter or instagram, tag me and I'll repost! 💜
One time I told my mom I had watched The Sting recently and was in the mood for another movie like that I meant something kinda fun and silly She decided we should watch Butch Cassidy and good god that was not a fun and silly ending
"Nothing's worryin' me" is the false bravado of someone who is deeply worried, blaming his red eyes on the rain because, as he lies, "cryin's not for me."
Excellent video! I’ve always seen the Raindrops montage in Spider-Man 2 and the Bully Maguire montage in Spider-Man 3 as parallels. They’re both showing scenes of Peter taking the life he thinks he wants after eliminating what he thought was the source of his problems, only to later find that he has to give up that life in order to be the hero once more.
As someone who saw Butch Cassidy for the first time a week ago, adored it, and my favorite film is Spider-Man 2... This analysis HIT. You perfectly describe why both stories are special pieces, not just of filmmaking, but of art in general. Great stuff
Scott, let me introduce you to another rabbit hole: Butch Cassidy just MAY have survived! For many years now, there have been tales of Butch returning to the US to live out his remaining days. Personal anecdotes and (if memory serves) perhaps even a photo or two of him after his purported death. The rabbit hole beckons, Scott. You know you have to look into this.
so glad you're opening up people's minds and encouraging people to catch classic films they mighta previously ignored. I remember watching this about 20 or 25 years ago and being blown away at that ending.
When I clicked on the video about the goofy Spidey 2 sequence, I did not expect to get an engaging and thorough analysis of not only Spider-man 2, but the lyrics and score of the funny song from the sequence, and one of my dad’s favorite westerns. Awesome job dude, your videos are always a blast
I have associated this song with the westerns my dad watched when I was a kid but never knew which one it was from. Thanks for making me feel old, Scott! 😂
Two other films from the same period (all three released between 1967 and 1969) are "Bonnie And Clyde" with Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway along with "The Wild Bunch" with William Holden and Ernest Borgnine. The music and the character relationships get you to root for the bad guys. The song 'Foggy Mountain Breakdown' functions as an old timey toe-tapper. I'm normally not into westerns and gangster flicks, but this trilogy stands together as a break from the Hollywood format by the late 1960s. All three movies have a similar arc which ends the same way. If you enjoyed "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" I'd recommend a quick follow through with these other two.
Exactly. I need to see the Wild Bunch. I'd say that Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is western for people who aren't big fans of westerns. Like myself.
_Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid_ was one of the last of the westerns for awhile. _True Grit_ had opened a few months earlier. This is also just about when television had it's 'rural purge'. Hollywood stopped needing horses as much. _The Godfather_ opened two and a half years later, being a big movie with no horses. (Well, part of one, but that was probably just a model of a part of one.)
Watched this on Nebula, where I quite enjoyed your take. It’s not dissimilar to mine but I do want to add… about the audience laughter… that’s something I’ve always associated with that sort of freeze frame being a staple of tv during Raimi’s and Gen X’s (yeah, I’m old) formative media diet. So it’s a bit kitsch along with your observations. I wouldn’t be surprised if the kitsch quality was as conscious as the other reasons may have been either subconscious or additional layers considered during that stage of post-production. Either way, attentive audiences reap the rewards.
I’ve always loved that montage in Spider-Man 2. I never laughed at the freeze frame, it just always made me feel… nice. It’s a beautifully wholesome and quirky moment, and the song is just perfection.
I've always loved this scene. I think it's great that there were films where people just did stuff because they thought it was a good idea, and sometimes there still are.
This video messed up a childhood memory of mine. When I was a kid I had a porcelain squirrel (it kind of looked like a figure made from a Beatrix Potter drawing). When it was wound up it would play "Rain drops keep falling on my head." I never thought much about it but now it feels really creepy. I think it's still at my parent's house somewhere.
I don’t know how many times I’ve seen Spider-Man 2 but this one is such a huge part of my childhood. I feel like it is my favorite of the live action Spider-Man movies
My sister has a music box that plays this song you're talking about. My grandmother gave the day she was born in 1975 before my grandmother passed away. I never had the chance to meet her because I was born in 78. Rain Drops Keep Falling on my Head. I like seeing you outside my guy. I've been watching your videos since you had hair. ❤️🤙
I clicked on this expecting a silly video on a Spider-Man 2 frame to watch while I eat and somehow ALSO ended up being legitimately interested in watching Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid for myself... Scott, you did it again! Great video!
One of my dreams in life is to include a totally pulled out of my back pocket detail in a movie, or animated tv show, and then see how that would make someone online go nuts reading waaaaay too much into whatever it was I did completely on a whim. It would make me smile...
Raimi knew exactly what he was doing by referencing BC&TSK in this scene. I won't pretend that I know why he didn't admit it in the commentary, though I have my suspicions (the producers: this is a fun superhero movie, no-one wants an essay on narrative theory and besides, that film is hella old: no-one watching this cares about any of that ancient shit [maybe]), but Raimi knows his medium. Up, down, left, right, forwards and bacwards. The reference was deliberate, because Raimi is aware that there is more than one audience, and he is able, more often than not, to make movies that cater to more than one audience. Also, he knows that sticking Bruce Campbell in there somewhere will make everyone happy.
To answer the Dog Question, the answer is that Toby Maguire is vegetarian/vegan, and wouldn't eat the hotdog if it was real meat. I heard that there was an actual vegan hotdog in that bun, but I don't know how much vegan hotdogs looked like real ones 20 years ago. So imagine they intentionally held the dog in a way to keep it out of view of the camera. (Edit to clarify because I checked the dates - he was vegetarian when the movie was made but became vegan in 2009. Also, I knew about the hotdog because I've seen it in trivia stuff, but you're the first to mention the fact that the dog itself is obscured)
@@NerdSyncProductions Fair. My theory is that they did takes where you could see the hotdog, but it didn't look good enough, so they did takes with no dog as well, and one of those ended up in the movie. (According to my mother who grew up having to eat vegetarian because her mom thought meat caused cancer, vegan hotdogs are dusturbingly... white. They might be better now, as meat-replacement technology has improved a lot in the last 10 or so years) Also holy cow Batman, I got a reply from Scott! Hi Scott! Big fan!
Oh God, that feeling of "please be a good person" when you start fangirling over someone. Like, I've accepted that a lot of the people whose work I enjoy are known to be, or will turn out to be, problematic, and sometimes I continue to enjoy the work and sometimes I don't, but it would be nice if SOME people turned out to be actual heroes. 😔
Honestly 3 minutes in and im engaged, i understand the premise, i have all nessicary information to understand what this essay is talking about and yet i dont know why. So i have to keep watching. That is a skill that is very rare for this platform. Great job.
Sam Raimi is exactly the kind of guy to do this. Anyone who knows his detailed work on the Evil Dead films can attest to his love of details and themes. Heck, even Multiverse Of Madness is a good example of his dedication to details, the entire movie is a love letter to his career, and how all consuming the nature of studio filmmaking is. And of course, it's very much in his nature to sometimes forget to notice the themes he's putting in, as he just, generally tries to do what the thinks he'll enjoy most in the film.
My favorite trilogy, these movies were not just good superhero movies but stand on their own so well. They were campy but very heartfelt, the part you mentioned briefly where Peter becomes a hero I think is part of it. He got powers and the first thing he did as “spider-man” was wrestle for money to impress MJ with a car. He wasn’t really a hero in the making until he’s forced to realize that his inaction causes Uncle Ben to get killed, the one guy getting mugged in Spider-Man 2 he shrugs off and walks away, etc.
The writer of Butch and Sundance was William Goldman (better known as the guy who wrote Princess Bride) and a whole quarter of his autobiography Adventures in the Screen Trade is devoted to that little Western, even going over what he felt were the weaknesses of his screenplay. It’s a very interesting read.
I think there's something else to that freeze frame continuing. It's almost like that freeze frame was the chance for the audience to imagine the continuation of the story, just like Butch & Cassidy. The audience can take that moment to accept that as the story: Peter's life is good without Spiderman, happy ending. But by continuing the movement before fading to black, the movie indicates that it's going to carry on, and by continuing to watch you're allowing things to change for Peter. "The story is going to continue... are you coming? Or do you want it to stop here?"
When this particular freeze frame happened my wife laughed and, at the same time, were sad, because we knew it was just a moment, just brief illusion in time of pure happiness and normalcy for Peter. But, you have to remember, it is one of the universals truths of Marvel, perhaps it's greatest. "No one stays dead in Marvel, except Uncle Ben." Peter can never wholly be happy, or at peace, it simply isn't in the cards for him. We love him because of this. Back to the moment as we watched it, we both knew, we were being told, "See this is what Peter looks like when he is free of the burden, when he is normal, happy even". Then it freeze frames, and I feel we are told, in the meta narrative we share with the film makers "Enjoiy this, this is it" and then the movie starts back up, and Peter had to be Peter again. We are old enough to know the reference to the film "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"; and like Raimi and his production team, carry that into the space this scene fills. It was a lovely moment, but only a moment. You are now in your 30's, you have been adulting long enough now to know, life isn't about being happy, but about enjoying the happy moments, savoring them, because they are few and far between. Peter , in that moment, in that beautiful montage, thinks that maybe life can be happy, and we as experienced adults at that time, recognized that youthful hope and naivete, and savored it, for we knew it wouldn't last. This remains one of my all-time favorite montages, It was truly bittersweet. As mentioned earlier, It was a lovely moment...but only a moment.
I love this so much! Never noticed the parallel before, having seen the films something like 10 years apart. Your analysis is better and authorial intent only matters in court!🙌
The leader of the posse chasing Butch & Sundance is named La Fours and he is used as the nemesis of the Mallrats (also featuring Stan Lee) in Kevin Smiths movie, with Jay providing exposition for him as a legendary mall cop known for his exemplary conviction rate and rumours that he even got two kills. He was played by a silent Sven-Ole Thorson
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is my favorite movie ever. The song was definitely a goober choice for the Western but I think Paul Newman and Robert Redford together is also a bit of a goober duo because the characters are funny and silly despite their dire circumstances. I love the comparison with Spider-Man 2. Peter has plenty of raindrops falling on his head all the time. Nice one, Scott. 💕
This is my favourite of your kinds of content, possibly my favourite of any kind of content on RU-vid. Your production value, editing, and storytelling is so engaging and clever and well-thought-out, I'm in awe and it makes me want to be a better RU-vidr myself. Beyond that, your analysis is so insightful, especially when it comes to issues of politics and mental health. As a long-time fan of Spider-Man 2 and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, this video was a real treat from start to finish. I know this kind of content is tremendously time-consuming to make and that you struggle with perfectionism, and I know that the RU-vid algorithm never cares about actual effort so it's hard to get rewarded for this kind of video, but I just want you to know how much I enjoyed it and how much I appreciate your work. Chances are high you'll never see this comment, but I'm leaving it anyway even so, just in case of the tiny, slim chance that I can cut through enough to let you know how much I admire you and your work ❤
I was just listening to this song(and thinking on this scene) a few weeks ago ‘cause I’m finally taking the steps to get into trade school(after deliberating long on whether a 4yr was what I wanted). There’s a certain sense of liberation and relief just from rewatching the scene/listening to the tune; it’s the closest thing to feeling like I’m starting a “new life”, especially after facing my own personal struggles. It’s a nice thing really and I’m glad we can all connect to it uniquely(Plus, I didn’t know it came from a far earlier era; I definitely gotta check out more westerns now lol).
Marvel movies were at peek between 1998-2006. Spiderman trilogy, Blade trilogy, Hulk, Punisher, and the X-Men trilogy. I will shout out 80s Punisher too.
I love it when great films lead to great films! Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid was one of my mentor’s favorite movie! He’d gush about how amazing and smart and beautiful it was before he passed!
