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@LollipopKnight2
@LollipopKnight2 9 месяцев назад
I think the Crassus should be in consideration for this trick. Puts a lot more toughness in front of your fragile squad, and still has the Fire Support rule.
@KevinPuttock1981
@KevinPuttock1981 9 месяцев назад
3 primaris psykers, 3 scion cmd squads, 3 five man scion squads all in one Crassus… 33 infantry models in one seriously tanky APC
@LollipopKnight2
@LollipopKnight2 9 месяцев назад
@@KevinPuttock1981 I hadn't considered just how seamlessly it works- that is one extremely cranky Crassus!
@piecho99
@piecho99 9 месяцев назад
60+80+55*2+55+60*2=605 Assuming you load up the Crassus all the way. The dang thing doesn't even have a firing deck. If you want to really meme it out; all 23 models fit inside a bane hammer.
@KevinPuttock1981
@KevinPuttock1981 9 месяцев назад
@@piecho99 absolutely but you’d miss out on the re-roll hits ability from the Scions if using the firing deck wouldn’t get the re-roll wounds from the vehicle ability (Crassus or Taurox Prime)… but you get the firing deck benefit which is still nice
@joshbbrad2366
@joshbbrad2366 9 месяцев назад
This actually works and works well. I have tried this in 4 games now, with two 10 man squads loaded to the gills, 2 command squads with 4 special weapons, and 1 psyker in each squad. They both dropped a terminator squad with leftover fire. I definitely recommend taking an Enginseer for the Crassus though.
@gabejockumsen
@gabejockumsen 9 месяцев назад
I'm literally planning out a Tzeenchian traitor guard army utilizing scions and psykers 😂 this video just made the commitment easier. Also if you make the militarum tempestuous command squad your warlord scions become battleline troops
@zielisawzielony9366
@zielisawzielony9366 9 месяцев назад
Traitor Guard FTW!
@gabejockumsen
@gabejockumsen 9 месяцев назад
@zielisawzielony9366 for real. Ive been assembling and painting my imperial guard but i want a second army themed around Tzeench
@sovereign6291
@sovereign6291 9 месяцев назад
@@gabejockumsen While your at it remember they can count as Traitor Guard for Chaos Space Marines since last edition and the basic troops can be spammed to represent Cultists. 2 Armies in one!
@ScottTheBot07
@ScottTheBot07 9 месяцев назад
Me watching this instead of going to the local GW for a game.
@cantorofleng7837
@cantorofleng7837 9 месяцев назад
Can't mistakey if no gamey.
@art-games6230
@art-games6230 9 месяцев назад
Game workshops host games?
@ScottTheBot07
@ScottTheBot07 9 месяцев назад
@@art-games6230 some gw stores have a table that you can get a pickup game at.
@HiveFleetThanatos
@HiveFleetThanatos 9 месяцев назад
I love your intentions in supporting the channel Scott! 😆
@ScottTheBot07
@ScottTheBot07 9 месяцев назад
@@HiveFleetThanatos made up for it by buying some paints and index cards from the local gw just now lol
@Theinternetnerd
@Theinternetnerd 9 месяцев назад
As always, you do not let us down with another great video! I’m gonna try my guard with this tactic and hopefully beat those dang heretics lol. Keep up the good work!
@jonsmith2240
@jonsmith2240 9 месяцев назад
Cheers Mordian, keep the scion related content coming!!
@davidthomas2870
@davidthomas2870 6 месяцев назад
With the tempestus prime also giving the squad sustained hits and an ogrin bodygaurd to lend the unit extra durability (7 wounds with slabshield, 4+ invuln from the psyker and 6+FNP from the command squad), i feel like this combo is a pretty good one to toss in a Crassus. That is quite a lot of daka with 3 plasma and 3 HSVG or meltas and a grenade launcher and the ripper gun, thats quite a lot of daka with full rerolls to hit and wound.
@guybarnes6203
@guybarnes6203 9 месяцев назад
Try my party bus AKA "The Magic Scholam Bus". 2 primaris psykers and a chimera using the firing deck. Hazardous tests apply to the chimera as the weapon is fired by the vehicle. More wounds, fast and no in-and-out of transport to trigger rerolls. If you have Lord Solar and some sentenels already it can be boosted. All for just 190pts. I have used it and it works.
@danwilde4712
@danwilde4712 Месяц назад
This was what I was going to do! Glad it works!
@pabloalonsolasagabaster658
@pabloalonsolasagabaster658 9 месяцев назад
Seems like a MUST in a pure scion list. In amixed guard... maybe
@mikelmazzi7978
@mikelmazzi7978 9 месяцев назад
The scion command squad with 5 guys and a psyker gets even better if you add drill commander.
@KevinPuttock1981
@KevinPuttock1981 9 месяцев назад
Only negative is the drill commander ability doesn’t kick in when you get out of the vehicle… so then you can’t pair that with the re-roll wound part. Still useful for the turn after getting out of the vehicle if you can remain stationary to hold the objective (and use the Psyker for the 4++ invul and cmd squad for an order)
@mikelmazzi7978
@mikelmazzi7978 9 месяцев назад
@@KevinPuttock1981o yes very true. Yeah then it isn't worth it, because you won't profit from the Taurox Prome anymore.
@jacob5700
@jacob5700 9 месяцев назад
It would still be a lot of Lethal hits in subsequent rounds. Makes it more sustainable damage than a one round wonder.
@operator9858
@operator9858 9 месяцев назад
The psyker is a leader. You dont need the command squad to give him drill commander. Your welcome :)
@KevinPuttock1981
@KevinPuttock1981 9 месяцев назад
@@operator9858unfortunately the primaris psykers can’t have enhancements. Also, you’re taking the cmd squad for sustained hits
@akodotain
@akodotain 9 месяцев назад
Being tied to the taurox seems to defeat the purpose of building the combo. The goal is to make a high threat unit that gets into the places vehicles can't. Certainly cool if you just want a more scion themed threat though.
@TideUltra13-ex3xl
@TideUltra13-ex3xl 9 месяцев назад
You can certainly run the squad without the taurox and deepstrike from reserve. The taurox prime gives your squad reroll to wound rolls, which helps the primaris psyker fish for dev wounds.
@s.h-d6074
@s.h-d6074 9 месяцев назад
Thats hillarious...need to try it
@jacob5700
@jacob5700 9 месяцев назад
I like it, it's just a lot of investment. 5 Scions, Scion Command, Psyker and Taurox Prime is 285 points. That's a Rogal Dron +25 pts or 3 Armored Sentinels +75 pts. It's any Leman Russ +~100 pts. Still, it could be a pretty strong variant of your Armoured list I think, more of a hybrid list: 3x -- 5 Scions, Scion Command, Psyker, Taurox Prime 855 3x -- 10 Cadian Shock Troops, 1 Chimera 405 1x -- Tank Commander w. Grand Strategist 220 1x -- Manticore 150 2x -- Leman Russ Battle Tanks 360 -------- 1990 pts. Edit: Could change the Manticore to a Basilisk and one of the Russes to another Tank Commander if you wanted more Squadron Officers.
@gabrielandradeferraz386
@gabrielandradeferraz386 9 месяцев назад
I feel like that might be a bit too much scions, I think 2 tauroxes ia enough for me. I feel more comfortable with more frontline infantry in chimeras
@sairence
@sairence 9 месяцев назад
I think in a mixed Guard list you might take one Prime, with one of these units as an objective clearer. Anything beyond will probably cost too much in relation to board control tools. It's a pretty pricey combo, at the end of the day. In a pure Scion army I see no reason not to go all out this.
@jacob5700
@jacob5700 9 месяцев назад
@@sairence It's possbile, but if you've seen Mordian's video on his Mechanized army this has as many infrantry units and those 3 Scion units pack as much punch as a Rogal Dorn and in some cases MUCH more. They of course don't have anywhere near the staying power of a Dorn, so if you disembark them where multiple units can fire at them, they're dead. 3 units like that may well be too much, but it was just a quick OTOH list. 🙂
@LynKrieger
@LynKrieger 9 месяцев назад
Mordian Glory I’m looking to run scions and If you want to dial this up to 11 but still runs cheaper than the command squad version. You have two options. 2x primaris psyker 1x PS & greyfax for anti psyker 4+ unit wide helping vs deamons and other army’s shes also have some good dev wounds that help with the RR Wounds 1x PS and either draxus anti infantry 4+ on her gun with dev wounds great with RRs and unshootable in 18” Or 1x PS & Inquisitor Coteaz as he gives you some CP regen potential and d6 anti infantry 4+ D2 dev wounds as well Let me know you thoughts as I have a inquisitor list using scions and some kaskrin with melta mines to mortal wound tanks out to help even out the melta and plasma wounding vehicle on 5
@zachsilby4569
@zachsilby4569 7 месяцев назад
As someone building a Scions army, this basically gives me 3 "Elite" Scion squads and 3 battle line Scion Squads
@operator9858
@operator9858 9 месяцев назад
I had my eye on a bunch of psyker proxies alreadty that are dope but man is this pricey on points. Might try it as a change up to my normal builds to keep my opponents guessing tho lol
@jacobdriver2151
@jacobdriver2151 9 месяцев назад
I already took scions in a taurox prime as a big damage unit so this is definitely going in my next list.
@RiffSilverthe1andonly
@RiffSilverthe1andonly 9 месяцев назад
Devastating wounds? You should look at the colossus bombard, it puts out a lot of em
@NoName-lo9ym
@NoName-lo9ym 9 месяцев назад
ITS NOT CALLED BRAINSTORM ANY MORE!!! IT'S CALLED EPILEPSY!! 😆😆😆😆😆
@MordianGlory
@MordianGlory 9 месяцев назад
@user-bg3kl4ug8y
@user-bg3kl4ug8y 8 месяцев назад
I have now fought 9 times with militarum tempestus and won them all, they are truly devastatingly powerful.
@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel
@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel 9 месяцев назад
I love the primarus psyker he's so good I guess he's the only psyker we really have, and makes great plasma lite spammer.
@alfie5860
@alfie5860 9 месяцев назад
How about inquisitors as their psychic shockwave also does devastating wounds and can join the battleline scions 🤔
@jpthunda7797
@jpthunda7797 9 месяцев назад
I think there's a lot of potential here. The command squad + 5 man + psyker could easily form the basis of an all-scions list, but slotted into a more traditional guard list I don't think it fits. It's just too costly. However a more dense unit of 5 Scions + 2x Psyker in a Taurox or 10 Scions + 2x Psyker in a Taurox starts to look manageable for the output. The only reason to really consider going 10 instead of 5 is for Overwatch protection in my opinion, the goal is to deliver 2 psykers to the target. 2d6+6 Blast, reroll hits, reroll wounds, dev wounds is an absolutely disgusting slap, and I think it's the most efficient form of this package. I think this provides a particularly dangerous threat from the Guard, albeit a fragile one. Even discounting the dev wounds, this could be combined with a Russ Exterminator + Fields of Fire to reach some very high AP shooting.
@geoffreywampach2588
@geoffreywampach2588 9 месяцев назад
This *is* a spice meatball.
@alexanderkellar3841
@alexanderkellar3841 8 месяцев назад
What special weapons would the Scions have in that Case? Melta for Punch and range is equal to the witchfire. And plasma because of rapid fire?
@daware7
@daware7 9 месяцев назад
I think adding them to Catachans with straken would be awesome too +1 strength and ap on the charge with lethal hits from straken
@percymacdonald6657
@percymacdonald6657 9 месяцев назад
Plus the Psyker makes the catachan blob twice as durable against ranged attacks
@PandorasFolly
@PandorasFolly 9 месяцев назад
GW agent watching this scribbling furious notes on how to nerf the guard. Gonna get nerfed next errata or faq
@MordianGlory
@MordianGlory 9 месяцев назад
@pocketmaster100
@pocketmaster100 9 месяцев назад
That is the way to play à spyker
@Pestilencemage
@Pestilencemage 28 дней назад
Too easily crushed before it pulls off it's trick.
@operator9858
@operator9858 8 месяцев назад
ya know....5 scions and a psyker just barely happen to fit into a centaur...
@tyjames3339
@tyjames3339 8 месяцев назад
so is it more beneficial to use a 10 man scion and 2 psykers, or a 5 man scion with a scion command squad and 1 psyker?
@clarkwalter7170
@clarkwalter7170 9 месяцев назад
I got a very nasty plan with a fresh new crassus 😁😁😁
@WATCH0YOUR0MUMMER
@WATCH0YOUR0MUMMER 8 месяцев назад
Is it just me as a guard player but where has all the heavy stunner options gone from the infantry units?
@fernandopires135
@fernandopires135 9 месяцев назад
Primaris psycher smite is now stronger than any psychic attack of the grey knights... What an edition 😂
@blecao
@blecao 9 месяцев назад
While in paper it sounds great i think is too much points specially for the all in version,the bad thing about guard characters is that they aret atached to a brick of space marines of terminators they are atached to humans that will die fast and dead the unit dead the psiquer
@Wanderer_of_the_Steppes
@Wanderer_of_the_Steppes 9 месяцев назад
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't have more than one leader in an MSU. Double/full strength units can take 2 leaders, unless I misunderstood or something has changed
@operator9858
@operator9858 9 месяцев назад
Dont need a leader with the scion/kaskrin special ability...
@terranaxiomuk
@terranaxiomuk 9 месяцев назад
I just got a crassus. I'm loading it up with 10 ogryns and a platooon command squad.
@TheDuxbuse
@TheDuxbuse 9 месяцев назад
are you allowed multiple units inside 1 transport?
@terranaxiomuk
@terranaxiomuk 9 месяцев назад
@@TheDuxbuse Yeah. It holds 35.
@TheJohnHOB
@TheJohnHOB 9 месяцев назад
Have you considered adding an Inquisitor?
@raphaelhug6064
@raphaelhug6064 9 месяцев назад
i dont understand how you can put 2 psyker in one unit. one of those 2 needs to be a command squad so you have still just one? or am i wrong?
@PaddyCover
@PaddyCover 9 месяцев назад
"This unit can have up to two Leader units attached to it, provided no more than one of those units is a Command Squad unit. If it does, and this Bodyguard unit is destroyed, the Leader units attached to it become separate units, with their original Starting Strengths" You can have the two psykers in one unit. The limitation is that you cannot have more than one command squad in the same unit
@raphaelhug6064
@raphaelhug6064 9 месяцев назад
@@PaddyCover Thank you bro now i understand🤝❤️
@parsnipking5030
@parsnipking5030 9 месяцев назад
What is giving you devastating wounds and sustained hits?
@TideUltra13-ex3xl
@TideUltra13-ex3xl 9 месяцев назад
The primaris psyker has devastating wound on his psychic attack. The tempestor prime (part of the command squad) gives substain hit to the unit it leads.
@edjohnson6321
@edjohnson6321 9 месяцев назад
How are you getting devestatimg wounds?
@Endurius
@Endurius 9 месяцев назад
Wound roll of 6
@parsnipking5030
@parsnipking5030 9 месяцев назад
I think he means what is giving dev wounds?
@TideUltra13-ex3xl
@TideUltra13-ex3xl 9 месяцев назад
The primaris psyker has devastating wound on its psychic attack.
@brandonalsop1281
@brandonalsop1281 9 месяцев назад
Where are the devastating wounds coming from?
@operator9858
@operator9858 9 месяцев назад
The staff itself.
@operator9858
@operator9858 9 месяцев назад
And psyker can still use a firing deck cant he and still get orders? Not to mention if he fails his hazard test the transport would take the wounds...
@davidabonyi4556
@davidabonyi4556 9 месяцев назад
He could, yes, but unfortunately the Taurox Prime doesn't have Firing Deck
@operator9858
@operator9858 9 месяцев назад
@@davidabonyi4556 chimera does...was thinking he wouldnt necessarily need to get out at all and can get a +1 to bs from orders elsewhere...
@RoncoRaptor
@RoncoRaptor 9 месяцев назад
.... I'm scared
@pashaw3042
@pashaw3042 9 месяцев назад
You should of told people to take plasma weapons on their scions. You make all hazardous rolls at 1 time and you the controlling player get to choose who dies after you see how many 1’s are rolled. So overcharge 2 plasma pistols and overcharge the Psycher roll a 1 out of 3 dice kill a plasma guy.
@0ohmit0
@0ohmit0 9 месяцев назад
I thought that if a character fails a hazardous test it must take the mortal wounds even if there are other hazardous models?
@TideUltra13-ex3xl
@TideUltra13-ex3xl 9 месяцев назад
​@0ohmit0 If the squad contains multiple models with hazardous weapons, you choose which models to remove after rolling the test.
@PhuzzPhactor
@PhuzzPhactor 9 месяцев назад
Bump
@keyne444
@keyne444 9 месяцев назад
You can have more than 3 Psykers?
@Endurius
@Endurius 9 месяцев назад
Nope...max 3
@cavemansam8400
@cavemansam8400 9 месяцев назад
Aren’t you limited to three psychers ?
@Endurius
@Endurius 9 месяцев назад
Yes ....
@operator9858
@operator9858 9 месяцев назад
Arent they considered leaders?
@Endurius
@Endurius 9 месяцев назад
@@operator9858 leaders, characters,.... So maximum of 3 in your army
@SquidFisT44
@SquidFisT44 9 месяцев назад
🦑🦑🦑🐙🐙🐙 approved
@zielisawzielony9366
@zielisawzielony9366 9 месяцев назад
5 stormtropers+ comand +psyker+taurox sound rly rly fun and fluffy to build with. Damn you now I have to convert something in to taurox(ugliest IG model).
@danielbob2628
@danielbob2628 9 месяцев назад
Can the psyker lead a large squad of Ogryn? That inviln save seems very good for getting such a unit up the field against a shooting army.
@phoenixguard2712
@phoenixguard2712 9 месяцев назад
Sadly no. However depending on how friendly and loose you gaming buddies are, they might let you do it.
@alanrickett2537
@alanrickett2537 9 месяцев назад
One thing makes this tactic bad for me hazatdous
@KevinPuttock1981
@KevinPuttock1981 9 месяцев назад
One of the benefits of having a scion command squad with the unit is the medic that gives the 6+ FNP… gives you a chance to save the mortals caused by hazardous if you do roll the dreaded 1 on the test
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