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Bread analogy is best analogy. Cheese works too - GT3 at Spa and Monza is a block of Colby or Cheddar; Cleveland is a nice washed-rind or Gorgonzola. I dunno. With regards to the description.... yeah, my life would be complete if Surfers Paradise got the Reiza treatment. As far as street circuits go it's in my top 3, Aussie bias notwithstanding. If we're talking bread and cheese, it's a dark rye with some Comte (and cultured butter)
One of those circuits like Norisring, that is super simple on paper but mastery is difficult. Requires a decent blend of road and oval racing techniques to get right. Great to see you racing this with GT cars too, that's what I'm really looking forward to do here. Anyway, time to go make a sandwich...
As someone who grew up watching CART on a Sunday night over here in the UK I've loved seeing all this 90s content and Cleveland is huge part of that nostalgia. Watching races at Cleveland, and places like St. Pete is what made that series so unique compared to F1 at the time. If ever there was content that would get me to buy AMS2, this might just be it.
As a life long Clevelander when I saw they announced Cleveland I got really excited. I can tell they knocked it out of the park. The scenery detail is crazy. I expected to see things like the Rock Hall, Cleveland Browns Stadium and things on the lake shore. But I didn't expect them to properly model the buildings in downtown Cleveland like they did. They even modeled the Cleveland State University Tower. Even the apartment towers of the Gold Coast Neighborhood of Lakewood are visible. It makes me so happy to see this piece of Cleveland History persevered so well in a digital format. My Bias aside: I've always felt Cleveland was underrated. It's fast, it actually flows really well. You have plenty of room to pass. It's an easy track to learn, very hard to master. After I finish here I am actually loading up AMS2 and driving the CART cars here.
I lived in Cleveland for a while and I've been to Burke Lakefront. It's nice to see that they nailed the skyline. I learned that the last Cleveland Grand Prix was the year before I moved there and was supremely disappointed.
Love the bread analogy! Been watching your videos for a long time and I'm glad you're still making content. I've been really loving AMS 2 for this exact reason: a nice departure from the white bread
i wasn't aware that the airport was a racetrack ever and i've lived in cleveland for 22 years since i was born i wish they would bring it back and its weirdly cool to see my city getting love for a racetrack of all things lol. Great vid man
Excellent analogy on the bread and is exactly what I enjoyed most about the original AMS, learning about all of these great South American tracks I’d never seen before. Also the odd car I hadn’t seen before. When you find that right car/track or bread/filling combo, it’s one of life’s great pleasures
I feel like this videos is going to give me some serious CART World Series vibes. Now all they need is the Vancouver city circuit and the death star mode.
Great video. Love the bread metaphor... as I chew on my plain toast wishing it was something more fancy like an organic rye sourdough multigrain hipster loaf. I've not heard much about Cleveland before (not from US), but you sold it to me! AMS2 is really interesting these days.
Imagine if sim racing took content like this seriously. My dream is to get DelMar and a bunch of IMSA GTO/GTU cars. I really wanna try that track. It alway looked crazy to me. I love that video of Willy going beast in the Toyota Celica GTO at DelMar. The 1993 Spa is really good in AMS2. So is 91 Monza. The current versions are great but I find it so hard to lap those tracks these days. Been doing it for long now. My other dream track would be historic versions of Sebring.
It's really sad that there has been no effort to make a unique, full fledged, classic experience with something different. AMS comes closest to it, but even still they don't lean into it hard enough because you just can't realistically. An 80s or 90s IMSA version of GPL would be epic, but would literally never be possible.
@@TacticalCardboard The closest thing to that would be the IMSA cars in Raceroom or mods for AC, but in both of those cases it’s less like a full-fledged experience and more like “here’s some cars, and here’s some tracks. Have at it.”
I usually end up as a sandwich when going 3-wide, so the analogy holds. For me, personally, I would love a nice Fundidora Park rendition to drive around in. It's probably not even close to the being one of the best tracks, but I did go to some CART events there and there's some nice memories of it.
One of the parts I loved the most was how far away the invisible walls are lol. You can explore nearly then entire compound all the way down to the lake
I have to admit I loved Cleveland in Indycar 2. Cleveland and Vancouver (the first version) were probably my all time road races in Cart, both to watch and to race in Indycar 2. So I'm very happy that we finally have a GOOD Cleveland again. Could we now have the original Vancouver city course as well? Thanks! :-)
I hated Cleavland in Indy Car Racing 2.. lol... Glad to see it is drivable and fun in Automobilista 2. There is something about that classic old Spielberg 1977 track in the rain is fun.
As an Ohio native I'm ashamed I never knew about the course, even though it appears the races were just ahead of my time. We need to petition for Indycar to bring it back, it looks like an entertaining course! Great vid!
As a flagger for Mid-Ohio who couldn’t start until I turned 18 a few years ago, all I hear about from the old guys is how amazing Cleveland was and how it was so much fun and unique. I want it to come back so much, but we’ll see.
Lol, I was just playing around with a Mustang GT3 on Spa last night on GT Sport. Just me and my 500 hp white bread. Lol. Need me some of that rye mukti grain organic vegan gluten free hipster loaf!
Always informative...just went onto some guys page, Austin Ogonsk and it seems all his content is focused on the negatives. Thx for the vid, will try Cleveland tonight
Yeah he is known for stirring shit and stuff. It’s just a bunch of unnecessary dramatics between different communities in simracing, and it’s just best to ignore all of it
It is the tracks that I really like in AMS2. I never drove those brazilian(and some other) tracks before buying this game. Didn't know anything about them. That made the game fresh and fun for me. Spa and all that I can drive in my sleep. Cleveland I knew about but never cared and now having a blast with it!
Interesting to see that you chose the pretty screamer from Zuffenhausen for testing out that track. (Der schöne Schreihals aus Zuffenhausen....😉) It sounds sooo good in AMS2! Edit:As for the bread.....I'm german, so I get the value of good bread!😉😋 Enjoy!
Another one of those tracks is the Twin Ring Motegi, for years I couldnt find a decent one for rF2 but soon i found the oval and the roadie but made by different people
Burke lakefront is a worthless airport that's a gigantic waste of space, but if we brought racing back it'd all be worth it. Such a ridiculously fun track to watch.
Too many food analogies. I'm hungry now.😉 But I'll offer another from a musician's POV. Everyone knows the Fender stratocaster. Hendrix, Clapton, SRV etc... They made it famous. and every guitar player either owns a proper strat, or a knock off of a proper strat at some point. Not too many venture into the deeper waters of a Gretsch, or a PRS Hollowbody, or a 12 string of any kind. But they offer their own experience. A unique and creative experience that sets them apart from the standard every guitarist comes to know at some point in their playing.
I hated the ICR2 version so I guess I should check this out. Back then a lot of the tracks weren't terribly accurate. Nazareth comes to mind. This was before Papyrus used satellite images so Nazareth isn't the correct shape and it makes racing that old track crappy.
IndyCar Racing 1 from 1993 got Cleveland along with the track extension pack. I don't know if they re-did the track for ICR2 but it might be that the previous versions of the track originate all the way from ICR1. Oh what joy it was to race it with a handful of pixels, 15 fps and totally mental AI 😃 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QM1igV6mXCc.html
I don't believe one person should take all the blame there. Verstappen and Hamilton have both been pushing the rules and playing all the games, this was no different. Hamilton should have passed him in my opinion. If I were to blame anyone, it would be the communication between the stewards and Mercedes, Hamilton should have been made aware sooner that Max was ordered to give up position.
Hamilton didn't pass because you don't pass intentional wreckers until the time is right, Max was doing everything to look like he'd go and pull a Schumacher if needed, and Hamilton ain't a dummy. I'm more of a Verstappen fan (my favorite driver is JPM, I like crazy drivers lol) but definitely way over the line way too often anymore, and his rage is going to cost him the championship for no reason at all I feel.
@@TacticalCardboard the time was absolutely right for Lewis. He could have absolutely bombed by him so far that even with DRS, he wouldn't have caught him. Then, Lewis would have walked away even more than he already did. He had the better tire, more HP and a free green light pass. I can't understand why as a racer he refused to pass him with every advantage. If I did what Lewis did in a club race or sim race, I'd just hang up my boots. I cannot get into his headspace considering how much Max slowed down and how badly he could have blown by. But, here we are. No points between them. #NotAFanOfEither #GoMclaren
@@liamlyda2116 This race had so much blame to pass off onto FIA, Massi and Stewards that I don't even know how it could be explained in the comments. Absolute shit show.
@@Real28 the whole gran prix from the idea, location, and execution was just an absolute embarrassment for Formula One. I hope we never go back, but alas that will unfortunately not be the case.
And a Silverstone is the same type of track as it was build on the flat, airfield but some how it's more interesting - still very low on my tracks to go for fun.
Ehhh - Sebring is a track what I know and I have to drive sometimes there but this is definitely nothing on my favorite list. This one looks even more like this what you name pancake track. Surely is not exciting for me :(
