THIS TRANE SPACESHIP JUST STOPPED WORKING 

😂

I almost started having an existential crisis and panicking because I haven't remembered a single thing from 2024

It is so cool to watch something that hasn't happened yet.

It is brilliant, designed to fail and create more work 😂

All hail the all mighty 💵 😂

Their banners at the shops, it's hard to stop a trane.. Yeah because they never start 😂😂😂

It's seems like such a racket. I genuinely wonder if the cost of throwing replacement parts in a landfill doesn't just destroy any "efficiency" gain you got by using them in the first place. Same with the required economizer. I have to have one, but I can set it to mix however I want, what did we accomplish, California?

Carrier has been putting them directly next to their evaps as well. Ive been bypassing when they fail and leaving them out.

It uses Hasslein's Hypothesis. My bet is there are a bunch of apes as waiters in the restaurant. I'd be careful Chris they might capture you and do experiments on you!!

Only when it gets hit by lightning while travelling 88 miles per hour.

Or Slingshots the sun to talk to Macintosh, I mean save whales or something...

And he didn't even fix it 😂 I had to look at my calendar, to make sure I didn't miss a year

@@keith_5584 "Hello, Computer."

Engineers and designers are making the call to order based on customer saying they want to be a little greener. They are then cashing their checks before the high maintenance costs or failures

Kiss keep it simple stupid

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Here here I say

I thought he somehow got zapped

Right!?! What happened??? Startled the crap out of me

Capacitor maybe? :o I couldn't tell either

Pretty sure he was losing grip on test leads and just trying to catch them

It got me too, rofl!

Unfortunately it's getting to the point that we have no other choice though. With how much electricity costs now, most people wouldn't be able to afford to continue using the old equipment with its power consumption. I agree with you, the older stuff worked great and didn't fail often. If energy sources didn't cost so much now I'd love to have them back.

You are not

I will do my best in the future

Thanks for the tip

That is an 'awesome' human interface design feature to frustrate the Un-Trane'd techs and help generate support revenue....... Step #1: Power On Step #2: Instruct Un-Trane'd tech to perform action Step #3: IF Step#2 performed GOTO Step #1; ELSE timeout and resume normal boot sequence.

@@JlerchTampa you get the idea . The screen calibration is there for a reason, you just ignore it 99 percent of the time when you’re working on a system and use it only when the screen does something funky.

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Thanks for the tip

They are in Yorks as well like that

$100 motor starters get put inside the conditioned space, $1,000 drives get put in the pigeon poop.

Be 10 years to get your money back lol

this is right, but when you get an Internal Failure (Alarm 38) you can not reset the Drive. Its the same for the Danfoss VFD‘s. The Interface and Panal looks just the same. Greetings from Switzerland.

Would be fun to find out if the main control unit will talk to a generic non trane branded vfd. You could probably make a bunch of money selling them :D

​@tschuuuls486 won't work.. trane units need specific trane parts or they don't run.. I know from experience...

@tschuuuls486 all the board does is send a speed reference signal. It goes on AI1 normally. Besides the "trane" VFD is really a Danfoss with Tranes junk written all over it. You could replace it with any brand, the parameters is where it can get tricky. You'd have to program all the parameters yourself if you used, say an ABB. A drive is a drive. I've done it on Trane units. Normally I tend to go OEM just because it fits just right without any modifications and the programming is already done. It's not hard to do, just a little time consuming.

@@jasonjohnsonHVAC Nice, I thought it would communicate via serial with the drive or something. Can you dump the old parameters via usb and just upload them to a same brand drive?

@tschuuuls486 you sure can. It's a process, but definitely can be done. Usually on a trane they will have the HMI display in one part and the drive in the other with a cable to connect the 2. Is that what you were referring to a serial connection.

Danfoss drives are garbage. Just like their expansion valves, garbage. Had a restaurant with 2 Tranes chillers with DX coils. Drives for first CFM on each circuit. In the 5 years servicing the place. I bet we replaced a dozen drives. Pretty sure our cost was over 2k per drive.

In my experience ABB drives are the best value. Availability, useability, flexibility, reliability.

​@@murralsDanfoss everything seems to suck these days, even their hydraulic pumps and motors.

Yes! Thank you!

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Trane probably do it because capacitor life will shorten with temperature. Every 10°C cooler will double the lifetime. And those big caps in the drives are probably rated 5000h-10000h at 105°C which could make it fail in warranty. If this is a problem in real world conditions vs. humidity/thermal cycling issues is a different story.

Aaon has only a few good things and countless bad….too many to bother listing. Straight off the factory floor, they are the worst unit on the market.

@@whoisderf not disagreeing with you there, especially recently. They have been sending units with the wrong condenser fan motors, routinely sending them way overcharged, then sometimes even when they’re not overcharged they just trip out in high pressure for the fun of it.

@@BenTh17 i run into that high pressure switch trip often. Aaon tech support has no clue what the problem is and tell you to call Yaskawa (for the CFM on drives). Yaskawa rep will tell you they get calls about it often, they’ll walk you thru the parameters AAON ENGINEERS WANT, maybe have you change a few things. It will still trip pressure switch. I haven’t ran into over charge yet. I have a building with about 40 Aaon, and all the 16 ton units have this issue, with a mix of straight DX cooling and DX+reheat. I legit believe it’s the way Aaon’s controllers/boards are computing what the pressure transducers are reading. Still working on the true solution on this one, whenever I go to site. Maybe the fan blades are pitched wrong… maybe it’s the micro channel coil design….. Aaon is literally no help. Couple of my favorite Aaon moments: Brand new unit (don’t remember tonnage), 2 circuits, each with 1 comp and 1 CFM. Both circuit would trip high pressure. Ended up finding CFM1 wires landed on CFM2 relay and CFM2 wires on CFM1 relay. Call stage 1, Comp1 runs, CFM2 runs. Another Brand new unit… was having control voltage issues. 24v would be here, but not there, then it would go away completely. Every single wire landed on the low vault terminal blocks, both the 24v and common blocks, they didn’t strip the freakin wires before crimping on the push connectors…. Like what the eff?!!! I’ve been told they test every unit before it leaves the plant… I kinda miss using my Aaon/Orion handheld controller….back when Aaon was actually one of the better brands.

Yep

Thanks for watching!

Any tips or tricks ?

@@HVACRVIDEOS I'm still trying to get familiar with these units myself. Their MBB interface makes it a bit easier to navigate issues. But when I am having an issue I have to get tech support involved

Good to know!

Tiene estas en Mexico? estas Voyager units de Trane ? Gracious por ver mis videos tambien

Muchas gracias por todo tú apoyo y tiempo. Y tus videos son extremadamente muy buenos, onestamente los veo cuando puedo pero estoy al pendiente de ellos. Saludos a todos cuídense por favor.

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He picked up the 24v off the vfd enable relay and tied it directly to the contactor so he can undo everything easily

Thanks that makes sense

Not quite but thanks, lol

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