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This tube preamplifier from Aliexpress took me by surprise. And the price? 

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When looking for a tube preamplifier to match my Fosi Audio ZA3 amplifiers I run as monoblocs, I stumbled upon this little thing on Aliexpress. I was sceptical at first, but it took me by surprise! It's called PJ.MIAOLAI SA-1000, it looks cool and sounds good enough for daily use.
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@adamant3844
@adamant3844 Месяц назад
I just ordered one to test since this is my first journey into tubes. I figured for under a hundred bucks I have nothing to lose. I will post my impressions when it arrives. Thanks for posting this Greg and keep up the good work.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg Месяц назад
Please share your impressions when you try it!
@adamant3844
@adamant3844 Месяц назад
@@NormcoreGreg Will do.
@adamant3844
@adamant3844 Месяц назад
As promised, I tested this preamp using a Rotel rcd951 cd player, Cambridge Audio class AB amp and B&W dm 620 speakers. I used a variety of cd's to test like 'hell freezes over" by the Eagles, "moe-mentum" by jazz legend Moe Koffman, "dig" by Boz Scaggs in HDCD, Cuban "rumba, mambo, cha cha cha" from Putumayo and Bob Marley's "legend" among others. I set the tone controls to 12 o'clock and noticed that there was ample bass and treble. I left the treble there but bumped up the bass to 2 o'clock as per my preference. The next thing I noticed was detail was there in abundance. Background instruments tended to blend in a little more to the foreground. The bass had a mellow quality yet went down deep. On occasion I could hear subtle detailed sounds with the tube pre-amp not audible before using it. The one very good thing this SA 1000 did was soften the typical British forward sound of these speakers. It also removed a slight coldness to the overall sound which made extended listening sessions more enjoyable. From what I could tell the pre-amp is dead quiet. It does it's job and have no plans to replace or upgrade it. I have no interest to roll the tubes at the moment since these stock tubes are sufficient. I have not tried the headphones yet but plan to. Overall I have to agree with you Greg that this little black box is a gem indeed. Needless to say it's been a positive addition to that system.
@zorankalina4399
@zorankalina4399 29 дней назад
@@adamant3844 Thanks....👌🙂🎶🍀👋
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 28 дней назад
@@adamant3844 thanks for your detailed feedback. Happy you like the preamp 👍
@ezion67
@ezion67 3 месяца назад
Nice find, I would replace or remove the backlight LED though.
@middleearthltd
@middleearthltd 3 месяца назад
I have a few headphone amplifiers that have built in pre-amplifier function For around $100 you could get TOPPING L30 Headphone Amplifier/preamplifier that could use a RCA splitter to send a signal a subwoofer and the mono-blocks The one you found looks fun
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
That’s also an option. I’m not a huge headphone fan, so I wasn’t looking at headphone amps.
@middleearthltd
@middleearthltd 3 месяца назад
@@NormcoreGregI am not a headphone user, but the head-amps and DACs often include excellent pre-amplifier capabilities built in. For $100 the L30 is an excellent preamplifier. I have a few including some tube head-amps. I have them connected to a “passive preamp” aka a custom RCA switch. I much prefer them to a dedicated preamplifier.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
@middleearthltd, I have two of those on the way from Fosi Audio, so I’ll verify your theory and report it back soon ;)
@jantepas7511
@jantepas7511 3 месяца назад
Nice. I would change the LEDs inside, to warmwhite, to match the meter. 😊
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
@@jantepas7511 better yet, you can add blinking backlight to match the jumping needle ;)
@yttean98
@yttean98 3 месяца назад
If you want Preamp, buy second units, tube or solid state, you will get excellent value from those units and plenty of many years of enjoyment, still have excellent resale value. Look for e.g. Audio Research, Conrad Johnson, etc tube preamp.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
Thanks. Second hand gear is a great option.
@richardgrant418
@richardgrant418 3 месяца назад
2nd hand can be very good value But those leading brands you mentioned - surely even secondhand it would be more than $1000, unless it’s a very old one ?
@yttean98
@yttean98 3 месяца назад
@@richardgrant418 price varies from country to country and also from different models. If interested you should do a little research on what models you are after first and depend on the country where you can get them from. Read a few reviews, the 2 brands above are outstanding one, and also Solid state Preamp from Parasound designed by John Curl.
@johnpeterson99
@johnpeterson99 2 месяца назад
You would be able to tell if the audio signal is being amplified or attenuated by the tubes if you were to tap on the chassis while music is playing (preferably through headphones) and see if you can hear a ringing or a change in the audio corresponding to the taps. I would love to know if you've tried this?
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 2 месяца назад
I’m on vacarion right now but will do the tap test when I’m back and report the result :)
@DavidMadeira29
@DavidMadeira29 3 месяца назад
That really looks nicer...
@larrygaines7462
@larrygaines7462 3 месяца назад
Sparkos has several chips for all 3 units. Call them
@Mark-ji3hs
@Mark-ji3hs Месяц назад
Thank you for your review. I'm setting up my first streaming system, so still very much learning. I've just bought a pair of ZA3's and a Wiim Pro and am waiting on a Geshelli J2 dac. The J2 has no volume control. I assumed that I would be able to control volume from the Wiim. Is this not the case? I was also planning to use the balanced outputs on the Geshelli to the balanced inputs on the ZA3's. Do you see this as unnecessary, given there are no balanced I/Os on this unit? Hoping that you can help. I'm obviously very new to this. Many thanks.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg Месяц назад
Hi Mark. This sounds like a great streaming setup! You can of course control volume (and much more - EQ, room correction etc.) on your Wiim using the app on your mobile phone. Or for $20 you can buy a dedicated Wiim remote, which will be even more convenient in my opinion - amzn.to/3MqSdZz. Between your DAC and amps it's better to use balanced XLR cables since they are less prone to signal distortion than unbalanced ones. This will give you slightly more sound clarity irrespective of the cable length. That is what I do when I connect the ZA3s (or now V3 Monos) directly to my DAC that also has XLR outs.
@Mark-ji3hs
@Mark-ji3hs Месяц назад
@@NormcoreGreg Thank you so much
@johnshaw359
@johnshaw359 3 месяца назад
Any chance of a look inside?
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
I’ll do my best to take it apart and show you the internals. Hope to upload it this week.
@het_gele_teken
@het_gele_teken 3 месяца назад
What is the plate voltage on those tubes?
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 2 месяца назад
I wasn’t able to locate this information 🤷‍♂️
@CashGravel
@CashGravel 3 месяца назад
I love it, but it doesn’t have an optical input for my Wiim streamer.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
@@CashGravel it doesn’t have a built-in DAC. But the WiiM does, so you can use its’ analog out (aux).
@CashGravel
@CashGravel 3 месяца назад
No, I have the tiny dac that’s only optical and I feed it into an SMSL dac. You didn’t mention if it had any gain in the output stage.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
@@CashGravel every WiiM streamer, even the Mini, has a built-in DAC and analog out. If you have the Mini, it’s a 2,5mm jack marked AUX. Having said that, your SMSL might sound better than the one inside WiiM. As for gain in the preamp I tested, I believe it does, although I did not take it apart, nor did I measue it. And the manual is in Chinese ;)
@CashGravel
@CashGravel 3 месяца назад
@@NormcoreGreg yeah I’m not too fond of using that little auxiliary output over an optical output, but I realized I could run the deck through the preamp and then into the amp and it would solve that problem. I’m mostly curious about the gain however because the speakers I use are maggies and it’s not so much the tonality change I need but a bump in power would be nice
@StrangeBrewReviews
@StrangeBrewReviews 3 месяца назад
Did you try the douk t8 pro?
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
@@StrangeBrewReviews I did not. Not yet at least ;) Any good?
@JazzinBlues
@JazzinBlues 3 месяца назад
GONE already! Looks like they only had two dozen units???
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
It’s being sold by multiple sellers (also at various prices). This one for example comes with free shipping - a.aliexpress.com/_ExjEILz
@keithnelson9233
@keithnelson9233 2 месяца назад
This preamp is a total piece of crap! I just ordered one and by no way can it even compare to my Fosi audio box 2. First of all there isn't any ground for vintage turntables. Second you have to turn the volume knob all the way up and still doesn't give you a decent amount of power. My Fosi has a gain function that I can at least turn up the DB to 45+ if needed. If you need a preamp for a computer this will work. But for anything else just spend a little more and get something decent.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 2 месяца назад
I’m sorry you felt that way @@keithnelson9233. I have it hooked to two Fosi ZA3s and there’s plenty of power for me. Maybe your source produces very low voltage? As for the turntable, I use an additional phono stage that takes care of grounding.
@gjan1761
@gjan1761 Месяц назад
It sounds like you're trying to use this as a phono preamp (no ground, no gain when volume is maxed). You need a seperate phono stage for that.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg Месяц назад
@@gjan1761 you are absolutely right. This preamp is not a phono stage! The naming can be a bit confusing since phono stage is also often called phono preamp :)
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852 Месяц назад
It is not a phono preamp. You buy the wrong item and then complain about it?
@thelowprofile9767
@thelowprofile9767 3 месяца назад
How good is it with a phono?
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
Do you mean phono stage?
@thelowprofile9767
@thelowprofile9767 3 месяца назад
@@NormcoreGregYes
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
@@thelowprofile9767, the headphone amp is actually pretty decent. I’ll be uploading a video showing the internals later tonight. It also includes the amp specs, so you might want to check this put. Sorry, but I do ‚t have my notes with me right now.
@victoriaalabastro5443
@victoriaalabastro5443 2 месяца назад
9+
@razzman2987
@razzman2987 3 месяца назад
Low fi
@CORVUSMAXYMUS
@CORVUSMAXYMUS 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@CORVUSMAXYMUS
@CORVUSMAXYMUS 3 месяца назад
CHINAAAAAA DONT TAKE IT EVEN FREE.
@NormcoreGreg
@NormcoreGreg 3 месяца назад
@@CORVUSMAXYMUS you probably wrote this comment on a device „made in China” ;)
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852 Месяц назад
Wrong..
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