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This Underrated Classic Almost Destroyed Disney 

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When you think about classic Disney movies you might think of Snow White, The Lion King, Little Mermaid, or any of the other timeless Disney classics. But at one point Disney attempted to expand their reach, and almost bankrupted themselves in the process. When The Black Cauldron was put into production, no one knew how long and expensive a project it was going to be. When The Black Cauldron first came out, it was seen as a major failure, but over time, countless Disney fans have discovered this underrated classic for the brilliance that it is.
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@lutilda
@lutilda Месяц назад
What always annoys me is that when things fail (movies, tech, whatever). Execs decide the whole idea was "bad" rather than actually figuring out what went wrong & why audiences/ customers didn't like something. Often the failure is at the top- too much exec influence, bad marketing, etc. But they never realize that. If Black Cauldron was MARKETED to teens I think it would have done better. But you can't make a movie for teens & then give it to kids and expect it to work.
@oop4841
@oop4841 Месяц назад
Used to at least. Nowadays they release failure after failure but keep trying to push the same thing.
@Compucles
@Compucles Месяц назад
Maybe it would've done better, but there's only so much you can do when the story sucks and is badly presented, while Gurgi and all of the side characters are terribly annoying. It would've been better if Gurgi had stayed dead from both a storytelling perspective and just to get rid of that nasty creep.
@michaelbarrington2806
@michaelbarrington2806 Месяц назад
Some of that I think was reputation. Disney had never done a teen-focused animation before. Black Cauldron was also the first ever Disney animation to earn a PG rating. Since it was Disney, I'm guessing a lot of the audience did not notice or expect that kind of thing from Disney. It's a cartoon from Disney, how bad could it be? It would be 15 years before Disney released another PG rated animated movie (Atlantis).
@Compucles
@Compucles Месяц назад
@@michaelbarrington2806 Ironically, all of the Disney animated movies (including Pixar) these days get PG ratings. Hardly anything can manage to get a G rating anymore!
@Blackgriffonphoenixg
@Blackgriffonphoenixg Месяц назад
This is one of those "back in the day audiences were NOT primed for long format entertainment, and splitting the five books into five films would have been utter lunacy" moments in regard to cinema history Additionally, the whole "cartoons are supposed to be for toddlers" mentality swooshed in not long after. Thanks, Jeffrey >:(
@iambicpentakill971
@iambicpentakill971 Месяц назад
But they could still have just done one book. I'd bet that the book has a satisfying beginning middle and end, but they chose to do the whole series. It's like trying to cram all of the Lord of the Rings into one movie for no reason
@CordeliaWagner1999
@CordeliaWagner1999 Месяц назад
The books are Elementary level. I read them. As an adult. Very boring and not much Substance.
@supersonic2613
@supersonic2613 Месяц назад
I think that at the end, Jeffrey was also kinda tired of the Disney stuff too. That’s why he created shrek
@LegendStormcrow
@LegendStormcrow Месяц назад
Sometimes even one book is too much. Remember the mess that was Eragon? They crammed a book the size of 2 of those big VHS cases stacked into one movie, and it was horrid. Granted it had other issues too, and only about 90 seconds was worth watching.
@GamesareJoy
@GamesareJoy Месяц назад
They really only did book 2 anyways, and glimpses of book 1 were shoehorned into the beginning/middle of the movie to give the story credence and legs to hold it up. They never tackle what happens in the 3 books that came after the death of the horned king. 🤷‍♀️ Returning the princess and Tarans' ultimate destiny were never touched on, just the part of his story where he confronts the horned king. I have long wanted somebody to pick this franchise back up and give it the chance it deserves. ❤❤
@matrix-5466
@matrix-5466 Месяц назад
The worst part is, since this film flopped, no other media has covered The Chronicles of Prydain since and has fallen out of most public consciousness. Very sad since they are very good books.
@azraelle6232
@azraelle6232 Месяц назад
I read the entire 5-book series back in elementary school and always thought they'd make fantastic movies, animated or otherwise. If Disney still owns the film rights, I think they could give it a good honest shot in live-action. They seem to throw everything else at the wall these days, why not?
@dreamguardian8320
@dreamguardian8320 Месяц назад
I've read the Chronicles of Narnia, but I've never heard of the Chronicles of Prydain. I'll have to see if I can buy them and be able to read them. If they made cartoon continuing movies, like they did with the live action Narnia and Harry Potter movies, maybe the Black Cauldron would've been more successful.
@robertzarfas9556
@robertzarfas9556 Месяц назад
"Was quickly forgotten by audiences..." Well it wasn't forgotten by me! I had a reoccurring nightmare about the all the skeletons being resurected from the time I was 5 till I was 11!
@mrrandom1265
@mrrandom1265 Месяц назад
I had the same problem with ET.
@brittneyperry8026
@brittneyperry8026 Месяц назад
I had recurring nightmares about the horned king! This may be the most influential Disney movie on me. Time for a re-watch
@kchishol1970
@kchishol1970 Месяц назад
It was the 1986 success of The Great Mouse Detective that kept the Disney Animation alive to the Renaissance. Furthermore, the basic concepts and character types were reworked for Disney's Adventures of the Gummi Bears, the TV animated series that established Disney as a revolutionary force in TV animation and began a Renaissance in that medium on its own.
@teresakusic8308
@teresakusic8308 Месяц назад
Ratigan, the best Disney villain ever!
@mantramoon9
@mantramoon9 Месяц назад
Good point! Also, I loved the Gummi Bears cartoon.
@user-vj1fo3qi1v
@user-vj1fo3qi1v Месяц назад
The Black Cauldron is one of the few movies I wouldn’t mind a live action remake of.
@beasleydad
@beasleydad Месяц назад
Favorite Disney film. The opening scene where he pretends a stick is a sword is basically my childhood. In 2019 I became a world champion with swords, and my interest in them can be traced back to my first viewing of the film.
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson Месяц назад
I really don't understand why studios insist on turning multiple books into a single movie. They finally stopped doing that with the live action Lord of the Rings (RIP animated LotR), and now they've gone in the reverse direction and take a single book and turn it into multiple movies.
@kennyleung9909
@kennyleung9909 Месяц назад
And then they stretch one book into three movies with Hobbit.
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson Месяц назад
@@kennyleung9909 Did you not finish reading my comment?
@josef.ramoss.8457
@josef.ramoss.8457 Месяц назад
Franchises are a big risk, they don't want to compromise to so sequels, the only one was Star Wars bc IJ were autoconclusive movies, now with the sucess of HP or Marvel studios finally they see the potential
@victoriasalter1701
@victoriasalter1701 Месяц назад
They did that with the movie of a series of unfortunate events. Though there is now a Netflix series as well, the movie (with Jim Carrey) was a combination of the first three books. Idc if the Netflix series is more faithful to the books or generally regarded as better, I grew up with the movie. And I have read most of the books.
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson Месяц назад
@@josef.ramoss.8457 You have shown your age and ignorance with this comment
@aronc24
@aronc24 Месяц назад
I was born in 1991 and I remember LOVING this movie as a kid. I’d replay the tape over and over and fall asleep to it. Lol
@merrybonjour2783
@merrybonjour2783 Месяц назад
same! I was born in 1996, and with 8 yrsd old loved this movie and also had it on vhs
@michaelburandt9134
@michaelburandt9134 Месяц назад
Me too! Born in 94. Such an underrated gem!
@joeh5315
@joeh5315 Месяц назад
91 kid also. I remember unwrapping the vhs box one Christmas and loved it.
@Jess-Rabbit
@Jess-Rabbit Месяц назад
Me too! Also a 91 baby
@TheSuperRouth
@TheSuperRouth Месяц назад
Oh my gosh you and Me both。 the soundtrack is just phenomenal even the creepy bits
@zdanee
@zdanee Месяц назад
The biggest failing of the movie is that the story barely makes any sense and while key points are similar to the book, it feels like it takes place in a tiny and empty world, whereas the books have excellent world building. If they ever remake it I hope it's the full series and not just the first book, as I would love to see how they handle Taran Wanderer.
@azraelle6232
@azraelle6232 Месяц назад
Taran Wanderer was my favorite of the 5. I read it multiple times throughout school.
@createtoserve
@createtoserve Месяц назад
@@azraelle6232 Same. I loved the quieter, more contemplative tone, the memorable characters, the openly metaphorical plot points all about how to figure out what kind of person to be when you realize you’re not who you always thought you were. It’s a universal theme, and seems right in line with the kinds of movies teens are responding well to these days.
@davidmrattigan
@davidmrattigan Месяц назад
The person shown onscreen at 2:53 is actually Roy E Disney, not Roy O Disney - he was the son of Roy O Disney and never worked as Disney CEO, though he was senior in the company
@roel.vinckens
@roel.vinckens Месяц назад
Roy E sounds like the updated version of Roy O...
@Nio744
@Nio744 Месяц назад
This story definitely deserves another adaptation.
@s.m.mannix8582
@s.m.mannix8582 Месяц назад
Loved the movie and the books, although what Disney's produced is a pale shadow of Lloyd Alexander's story. As long as Disney is sitting on his IP, they might as well reboot it into something worthy of the source material.
@JohnPeacekeeper
@JohnPeacekeeper Месяц назад
I di appreciate the movie making me interested in reading the books as a kid tho
@DameNickum
@DameNickum Месяц назад
1000%. I never considered the stories dark, they were epic. And when I got old enough to read the Mabinogion I got an even clearer picture of the history. I thought Lloyd Alexander was fabulous, his books were approachable and readable for anyone.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 Месяц назад
Modern Disney doing something that isn't boring trash? Hahahaha that's a laugh!
@Compucles
@Compucles Месяц назад
If they're going to reboot it, they should do it in live action so as not to confuse it with this embarrassing animated first attempt.
@olleselin
@olleselin Месяц назад
Now this is a story that totally deserves the live-action remake treatment! I would totally go for it. If Disney decides to reimagine it into a full R rated broad scaled and overall consistent piece of entertainment....
@JohnPeacekeeper
@JohnPeacekeeper Месяц назад
Taran Wanderer in live action would especially be awesome
@bullmonty764
@bullmonty764 Месяц назад
With the amount of remakes that have been released, announced, or even just rumoured, I'm sure they'll get to it eventually. It's just gonna be more of a waiting game than usual
@ItsCrawdaddy
@ItsCrawdaddy Месяц назад
Make it a series, there's 5 damn books, that's 5 seasons, 6-8 episodes per season
@DrTechnoBabel
@DrTechnoBabel Месяц назад
The sad irony of remakes is that the movies that would be the best choices to remake, those that were mediocre or even bad but had unrealized potential a remake could bring out, are also the movies least likely to get a remake because the executives that actually make those decisions only hear the 'mediocre or even bad' part and immediately stop listening.
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer Месяц назад
Disney only wants to remake stuff they're certain will be a success. It's financially a smart decision, but not the best creatively.
@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment
@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment Месяц назад
Honestly, compressing multiple books into ONE movie was a BAD idea. Among other things, it REALLY causes a constant sense of "Did I miss something?" throughout the film. Case in point: Princess Eilonwy just showing up out of nowhere, saying she's a princess...and of course The Horned King later calls her a "scullury made." A bit of backstory for her would've been nice! As it stands she's little more than a proto-Hermionie. (And don't get me started on the witch deliberately squishing a frog-ified character in between her GAZOOMBAS, in full view of the audience....)
@kittyfreya9141
@kittyfreya9141 Месяц назад
Honestly the only live action i cant wait for them to make. This cartoon was so cut op, the scenes just cut off or the characters say random stuff with no response or a response to no question that was asked 😅
@phantomsamurai4400
@phantomsamurai4400 Месяц назад
As a child scared me as a teen my 4th favourite
@DuelScreen
@DuelScreen Месяц назад
If Disney or another studio, live action or animated, wants to do this story justice then they should be allowed to but this version should not be the starting point. It has too much baggage. Disney learned a lot of lessons from this failure but not all of them were the right lessons.
@dreamguardian8320
@dreamguardian8320 Месяц назад
Right, instead of getting better, they made things worse with their 3D and live action remakes, and getting rid of 2D animation, the true magic of Disney.
@DameNickum
@DameNickum Месяц назад
Not only is it an interpretation of the Welsh “The Mabinogion” a mythological story rewritten to be child friendly”. It is also a history of Welsh mythology from thousands of years ago. The written seris, the book of three, the black cauldren, The Castle of Llyr, Traren Wader, and The Hight King. Were every bit as epic as the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings. Just like those books had to tolerate crappy interpretation to cartoons. This series is based on the Myth of Wales and it deserves a movie series that takes it as seriously as the most current Lord of the Rings series! And I hope they do it in my life time. I loved those books as a kid and have given them to my kids, their friends and their children as well.
@toagonel7045
@toagonel7045 Месяц назад
When my siblings and I were kids, we would sprawl on my parents’ bed while my mom read us the series. Always sad the series doesn’t get more attention.
@MegaDanimal87
@MegaDanimal87 Месяц назад
I was a little sad to see Disney return to Narnia when the opportunity to adapt Prydain was right there
@BossReo
@BossReo Месяц назад
"No longer in danger of firing all it's animators" But they'll more than likely do it anyway.
@benderbendingrodriguez420
@benderbendingrodriguez420 Месяц назад
Disneys history from 1966, when Walt passed away, to 1989 whem they were back on top is fascinating
@dreamguardian8320
@dreamguardian8320 Месяц назад
You should read Don Bluth's book Somewhere Out There. It's a cool history story of what Don Bluth's life and career was like, even while working at Disney.
@cooperminion825
@cooperminion825 Месяц назад
One thing I don't think helped the movie was that it came out during the Satanic Panic. I remember reading somewhere that some churches actually picketed the movie bc they said it was full of satanic imagery 🙄
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 Месяц назад
Ugh. Some people. 🙄
@onehorseopensleigh
@onehorseopensleigh Месяц назад
If that happened, it was localized. The movie was never in a wide enough release for that to happen, and incidentally, the first time I ever saw it was a Friday afternoon in a Christian school. We rotated this and Flight of the Navigator.
@zbr76
@zbr76 Месяц назад
I think it says a LOT that Disney didn't release this on VHS until 1998.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 Месяц назад
Ouch
@MegaDanimal87
@MegaDanimal87 Месяц назад
The failure of The Black Cauldron is even more disappointing when looked in the context of The Last Unicorn - which showed you can adapt a more adult facing fantasy novel with elements of darker animation.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 Месяц назад
The Last Unicorn is a beautiful and melancholy book and film.
@ianfrazier9896
@ianfrazier9896 Месяц назад
Underrated classic. Very flawed, but as a kid I was blown away (and terrified) by it. I fondly remember having the book-on-tape as well. Black Cauldron and Flight of Dragons were the two films that made fantasy real for me as a child.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 Месяц назад
My beloved childhood fantasy films were Willow, The Last Unicorn, Flight of Dragons, Neverending Story, and Little Nemo.
@bullmonty764
@bullmonty764 Месяц назад
It should never be forgotten that this movie was beaten out at the (domestic) box office by The Care Bears Movie of all things. Black Cauldron did do better internationally, though, particularly in France, but most people don't seem to count the international gross, probably because that sort of thing was harder to calculate in the 80s
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 Месяц назад
The old care bears films are good
@Compucles
@Compucles Месяц назад
Well, the first Care Bears Movie was actually a better film. (Yes, I have seen both of them and not just as a little kid).
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 Месяц назад
@@Compucles Agreed, though I always liked the second one better.
@KonekoPurrrfection
@KonekoPurrrfection Месяц назад
The books were amazing
@mraltoid19
@mraltoid19 Месяц назад
8:48 - You say that now..........
@patrickiamonfire965
@patrickiamonfire965 Месяц назад
While Disney is longer in danger of firing their staff they’re still gonna do it for the CEO pay. I mean 100 millions of dollars as salary.
@JoeyArmstrong2800
@JoeyArmstrong2800 Месяц назад
Had they stuck to their guns and made the full on epic they wanted to make, The Black Cauldron could have been something very special.
@Bobsk3
@Bobsk3 Месяц назад
Still remember watching this movie in the theater because it was the first movie I ever saw in a movie theater! For me this is the greatest Disney movie ever made! 🖤
@lyndseystrait1513
@lyndseystrait1513 Месяц назад
Tim Burton going in as a Disney animator is a mindboggling concept for me. All the various history this video talks about is very interesting & it was cool to see some of the early black cauldron sketches. Neat video!
@tecpaocelotl
@tecpaocelotl Месяц назад
I'm surprised disney hasn't remade it. Multiple books. Fantasy.
@archelaus1598
@archelaus1598 Месяц назад
They announced they were remaking the "Chronicles of Prydain" series back in 2016, but nothing concrete has announced since.
@erickmaverick3128
@erickmaverick3128 Месяц назад
Well, since the Black Calderon is essentially 5 books crammed into one movie, wouldn't it make sense for them to make a 5 part movie series, instead? Like, the first movie could be based on the first book, the second movie based on the second book, etc.?
@Nio744
@Nio744 Месяц назад
Actually they never planned on doing all of them. They originally wanted to adapt the first three books but due to time and budget constraints they could only adapt parts from the first two.
@JSStewart
@JSStewart Месяц назад
Disney's tanking of the Wes Ball production of Mouse Guard shows that they have not learned anything from the Black Cauldron fiasco.
@swooshswish4063
@swooshswish4063 Месяц назад
i watched it as a kid alongside the sword in the stone. Cauldron back then was my favourite film and I watched it a lot. It would be a dream come true to get a full 2d animated remake or an entire saga of the whole story. It was the most engaging thing I watched and i loved it as much as lord of the rings
@theamazingbatboy
@theamazingbatboy Месяц назад
They will only greenlight 3d or "live action" remakes these days-and that scares me.
@jonm.1030
@jonm.1030 Месяц назад
Another animated video from Nerdstalgic, that illustrates the importance of a film by drawing some unique conclusions.
@TheSykobanana
@TheSykobanana Месяц назад
This is my favourite Disney cartoon.. Cant wait for all the books to be developed, but hopefully by a decent studio who will do them justice.
@elliffjake
@elliffjake Месяц назад
I thought to myself this week how great it would be to see a video essay on this film. Thanks for posting.
@briano6115
@briano6115 Месяц назад
Thank you for covering this. Now, just be sure to keep moving and keep your head down. :)
@Compucles
@Compucles Месяц назад
Thank goodness for "The Great Mouse Detective" for keeping Disney animation going long enough until their Rennaissance began with "The Little Mermaid."
@ryxan6968
@ryxan6968 Месяц назад
I watched this movie as a preschooler and I was never scared by it lol
@Lasagna_Garfield_
@Lasagna_Garfield_ Месяц назад
I’ve always imagined an animated Dark Souls would be just like TBC. They have such a similar creepy, medieval vibe
@merrybonjour2783
@merrybonjour2783 Месяц назад
this was one of my fav movies as a kid, next to mulan and matilda. I had them in vhs and watched them so many times that they started to wear out. I never new matilda and the black cauldron were "failures" for they respective studios until 10 years later when I was 18 yrs
@owenwildish331
@owenwildish331 Месяц назад
I Love this film. The Black Cauldron is one of the very few Disney films that should and needs a good sequel. From what I'd realise, based on stuff I learned about the film, it came out at exactly the wrong time, both being too late to capitalise on the popularity of the fantasy genre of the late 1970s & early 80s and too early for it to capitalise on the resurgent popularity in the 90s-2000s, which is such a shame as the film was actually brilliant, though quite flawed... Also, Princess Eilonwy IS a Princess, and thus IS (or really should be considered to be) a Disney Princess (note, The Horn King was actually cruelly mocking her, calling her a scullery maid as an insult... because he's an evil villain who captured her). It would be cool if The Black Cauldron was featured in a future Kingdom Hearts game, with The Horned King as a major villain in it, a villain that even scares even Maleficent.
@Superlad9494
@Superlad9494 Месяц назад
Due to marketing reasons not every Disney princess can be a Disney Princess. Then you have cases like Esmeralda and Tink who were like Pocahontas and Mulan at first, but for different reasons were removed. I think Eilonwy would be considered an Esmeralda type...too "mature" for the line...despite meeting other requirements. Tink? She's a fairy, they're notorious for being fickle...depends on the day these days especially after the Disney Fairies thing.
@laurynsylvain07
@laurynsylvain07 7 дней назад
The timing with Creeper saying, "We did it sire! We did it! I-I-I mean, you!" Cuz it really was him lol
@vincenthoule5643
@vincenthoule5643 Месяц назад
It's a shame that this movie is forgotten. This movie would work today. I like to see disney exploring dark and mature themes.
@PaszerDye
@PaszerDye Месяц назад
"No longer in danger of firing all its animators..." *Sees Pixar in the hot seat for Inside Out 2...
@daviddyster4145
@daviddyster4145 Месяц назад
I think it’s time Disney gave this franchise another shot.
@BeYou-Butterfly9036
@BeYou-Butterfly9036 Месяц назад
3:20 I feel so much like I’m watching a cartoon version of Frodo Baggins and Sméagol! I mean, Gurgi’s voice sounds like a spot-on impression of Gollum. (Though obviously this movie came out before the LOTR movies)
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh Месяц назад
Saw the Black Cauldron in theaters, and it is one of my favorite movies. Just wasn't right for the time.
@sheaballard3022
@sheaballard3022 Месяц назад
I recall liking it as a child, and when I first got Disney plus The Black Cauldron was one of the first movies I watched. Having then seen it again as an adult, I felt like it held up. I was still entertained by it.
@LordWalsallian
@LordWalsallian Месяц назад
Wow…i loved this movie as a kid, it was in a Disney VHS collection. I adored Taran! Did not realise it was based on Welsh Folklore till now. Most of the original voice cast are dead now 😢
@kimemia_maina
@kimemia_maina Месяц назад
The sacrificial death made me cry
@Grimlocke95
@Grimlocke95 Месяц назад
Yeah, Gurgi taking all the blame wanting to do whatever he could to save his friends. Some people compare him to the Jar Jar hate but he was always my favorite. They muffled his voice a bit too much making it a bit hard to understand some dialogue but that just made me pay closer attention. Plus this was my introduction to the books that are similar to things like LOTR so that got me reading them all. Still want to get a collectors edition set.
@RetroRenegade8706
@RetroRenegade8706 Месяц назад
I remember hearing about how bad the black cauldron was, but honestly after seeing it, I fell in love with it
@FilipFrostFang
@FilipFrostFang Месяц назад
"no longer in danger of firing all of it's animators" -- really tempting the hand of fate are we ?
@bectoons
@bectoons Месяц назад
My sister and I both loved this movie when it came out in the UK. We each had the sticker book!
@user-pd6nl7pt2e
@user-pd6nl7pt2e Месяц назад
Please don’t recommend they remake anything until they stop trying to enforce personal politics and get back to story telling.
@ahwhite1398
@ahwhite1398 Месяц назад
Wasn't forgotten by me, either. I remember seeing it in the theaters. Looking at the release year, I guess that would make me 9 years old.
@Charliebeth
@Charliebeth Месяц назад
The Black Cauldron deserves a live action adaptation, pferably as a series of either films or a episodic series.
@silentben
@silentben Месяц назад
I haven't seen it since, but I recall being enthusiastic to see this in the theaters and loving it when I did. And I was 10 at the time, so well younger than the teen audience it was directed at.
@Jamal-bl7yh
@Jamal-bl7yh Месяц назад
Honestly 1980's Disney That Wasn't Touchstone Pictures doesn't do It for me I loved Splash, Three Men and a Baby, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Turner and Hooch , Even Baby Secret Of The Lost Legend was entertaining to me to Watched that alot back then
@blattman13
@blattman13 Месяц назад
I have a mini poster autographed by the animators. John Byner refused to sign it. I saw it at a Vegas test screening
@archelaus1598
@archelaus1598 Месяц назад
This movie is the godfather of a troubled production history of an animated film. It's the culmination of everything that was wrong with Disney at the time. Young animators were hired and wanted to prove their talent, but had conflicts with the studio management. The departure of Don Bluth and his entourage delayed production. There was a 1982 animators' strike. There were internal creative conflicts. Then, there's the advent of Eisner and Katzenberg into Disney, the disastrous test screenings, and the 12 minutes that were cut. It's a miracle the film is still watchable today.
@Ash_Wen-li
@Ash_Wen-li Месяц назад
I have this on VHS. I used to watch it all the time
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Месяц назад
This mmovie deserves a second chance and a remake
@biguy617
@biguy617 Месяц назад
With the right director.
@MightyElemental
@MightyElemental Месяц назад
I used to love this film as a kid. I haven't seen it in over 10 years, but I still regard it as one of my favorite Disney films.
@apocalipticdawn4209
@apocalipticdawn4209 Месяц назад
I just randomly remembered about this movie two days ago, and then this video comes out. The timing cannot be real. Now, with the neverending season of failed Disney remakes, I would love to see the Pridayn saga properly adapted to TV or cinema, and preferably in animation, to show that this was rather a bad execution of an interesting world than a bad idea by itself.
@lq8242
@lq8242 Месяц назад
Underrated classic for sure! I really liked it as a kid and on a rewatch as an adult I appreciated it even more! Same with some non-Disney beauties like The Princess and the Goblin and A Troll in Central Park!
@TinaTaem
@TinaTaem Месяц назад
The Black Cauldron Is My Favorite Disney Movie And Especially The Horned King He's Cool And Creepy At Same Time In The Film.
@teresakusic8308
@teresakusic8308 Месяц назад
Thanks to Disney + I've watched the Black Cauldron and I liked it. I'm a 90s kid. My favorite movies are FernGully, Once Upon a Forest, and many other Don Bluth movies of the time. They were dark with realistic themes and most I wish I could get on DVD or Blu-ray. So the Black Cauldron for me was quite good. The movie that freaked me out as a kid was Watership Down.
@Jebbtube
@Jebbtube Месяц назад
God, PLEASE don't let Disney ruin this one with live action. Let us have this one unsullied.
@StephenLeGresley
@StephenLeGresley Месяц назад
I've actually gotten a chance to see this on the big screen at a second run theater in my city and yea this is a real overlooked GEM. A lot of people have issue with it because it's a Disney movie and it goes to dark places but I think if it were released now it would fair much better. They could do a live action version and it would be one of the few reboots that warrants it and where you could really use the live action aspect effectively in the story.
@JustinWoo
@JustinWoo Месяц назад
I'm sure no one remembers this but me, but there was a Black Cauldron adventure game by Sierra and it was pretty cool.
@sarahhenry3607
@sarahhenry3607 Месяц назад
So what I took from this is that you are telling me, that there was a shot that Don Bluth coulda worked on this movie as an animator?!
@shewolf871
@shewolf871 Месяц назад
As a kid, I was never scared of Disney villains until I watched the black cauldron. The horned king scared the daylights out of me.
@johnminet9067
@johnminet9067 10 дней назад
It didn’t fail at all, I saw that in cinema in 1985 in Bruxelles and I had the album sticker 😊😊😊
@CordeliaWagner1999
@CordeliaWagner1999 Месяц назад
I really wish the Zelda movie willbe an Anime or X Men 97 quality cartoon. It's disgusting to see Disney's Live Action movies and horryfying to think Nintendo will do the same. Disney is dead but Nintendo should learn from their mistakes.
@HarvestStore
@HarvestStore Месяц назад
Great video.
@eowynsisterdaughter
@eowynsisterdaughter Месяц назад
It wasn't a great adaptation, so it largely missed the book fans, and on its own a lot of the characters were rather bland, there were pacing issues, and disjointed scenes. It makes sense to me why it didn't do well, despite a lot of very good animation. That said, I really would like a live action adaptation of this series, actually based on the books and not the Disney version.
@Leoj305
@Leoj305 Месяц назад
Except it isn't if you actually watched the video. It's based on book written before Zelda was even conceived. Not to mention that this movie was already in post production long before Zelda was even released.
@bezoticallyyours83
@bezoticallyyours83 Месяц назад
I'm a sucker for a dark high fantasy epic, but Black Cauldron just didn't do it for me.
@milestrombley1466
@milestrombley1466 Месяц назад
Damn! The book series makes the Lord of the Rings trilogy look like a mini series!
@andre_santos2181
@andre_santos2181 Месяц назад
“”Black Cauldron is the worst Disney Animation of all times!”” WISH 2024: Hold my beer 🍺!!!
@GoddessOfWhim2003
@GoddessOfWhim2003 Месяц назад
it lost at the box office to THE CARE BEARS!!! i don't know how you recover from THAT. maybe instead of remaking beloved movies in live action, Disney should do this. course Treasure Planet and Atlantis have their cult fans who would love those in live action
@Lamq555
@Lamq555 Месяц назад
Rewatched this recently and it feels like a horror movie!! Also some of the special effects are so cool imo! This movie deserves a live action remake!!
@CiaoRooster
@CiaoRooster Месяц назад
I was probably 7 or 8 when I saw this, probably on VHS and not in the theatres. I was too young to “love” it. But I could tell it was something very special and mature, maybe even for a 10 year old!! I guess it ultimately proved scarier than that though. If you go to Tokyo Disneyland, since Disney doesn’t run the park, there is still a lot of Black Cauldron theming, especially in the dungeons of the castle. Seeing the army of the dead rise up, while a tour guide frantically yells at you to run away, all in incomprehensible Japanese, was nevertheless one of the scarier things from my early 20s! (A little Japanese boy erupted in tears!!!)
@darkestlost
@darkestlost Месяц назад
I do love black cauldron. It's terrifying, artistic impressive and shows all the technologic years become prior of it, literally paved the ways. There's not "but" though only this a movie for a mature audience. Watch this prepare to see scary and beautiful animations as you see in Japan for example.. Serial experiment lain, Grave of fireflies, etc. It's not for children. It's for us adults and teenagers to remember even in darkest hour we can show the greatest of courage and surpass all the challenges.
@Compucles
@Compucles Месяц назад
I decided to sit through it once, and it's not underrated nor a classic. It's just as bad as everyone says it is, and that's before you consider the harm it did as a poor partial adaptation of an actual set of literary classics (or so I've heard, as I haven't read them), "The Chronicles of Prydain." While adaptation compression is far from the only problem with the movie, it did teach moviemakers the dangers of compressing a literary series too much when adapting it to film, even if the rare very thick single book actually requires two movies to adapt properly. As such, movie series based on book series like "The Lord of the Rings," "Twilight," "The Hunger Games," and "Harry Potter" (well, except for movies 4 & 5 in the latter case) have since received pretty good adaptations in terms of both accuracy to the source material and overall movie quality. In fact, "The Hobbit" was given so much room to breathe and added filler that it got 3 movies when it really only needed 2 of them.
@bloodmooncomics2249
@bloodmooncomics2249 Месяц назад
I LOVED this movie as a child. I was surprised to find out most people did not like it.
@jennytr5056
@jennytr5056 Месяц назад
Considering recent events at Pixar, describing Disney as "no longer in danger of firing all its animators" seems technically true in letter but really not in spirit! When I was a kid and watched the Black Cauldron when it first came out, I remember feeling disappointed because I'd loved the books, and the movie did not match my ideas of the books at all. I should give it a fresh watch.
@Doofwarrior88
@Doofwarrior88 Месяц назад
This movie really only suffers from a pacing issue
@NashEsq
@NashEsq Месяц назад
Black Cauldron is one of my all time favorite Disney movies, it deserves more love!
@Nurichiri
@Nurichiri Месяц назад
I think BC should be redone as a series rather than a single movie.
@RetroBerner
@RetroBerner Месяц назад
I always loved that movie, maybe it was just more popular in Germany, but I had no idea it was considered a flop
@theUselessProfessor
@theUselessProfessor Месяц назад
The image you used for Roy O Disney is actually his son Roy E Disney js js
@TheQueerCyGuy
@TheQueerCyGuy Месяц назад
Still my favorite Disney movie, even if it almost ruined them. It has been since I was a kid. I loved the story, the characters, and the art. I still watch it every once in a while to relive the nostalgia of watching it for the first time.
@yerkkoo
@yerkkoo Месяц назад
I loved this as a kid, was easily my favourite movie and watched it later in life when I was like 20, still was amazing
@shinobi-no-bueno
@shinobi-no-bueno Месяц назад
I had no idea that Tim Burton was an animator, let alone a DISNEY animator
@TropicalHonduranDominican
@TropicalHonduranDominican Месяц назад
At the time the new Walt Disney logo was more memorable than the film. Now the film is a masterpiece
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