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In Praise of Great Exposition 

Thomas Flight
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Exposition in film and TV has a bad reputation but it’s really just another tool in the writer's toolbox, and the quality of exposition can range from bad to great. This video examines some examples of truly great exposition.
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@bkimatab
@bkimatab 3 месяца назад
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@ronniedeshe5253
@ronniedeshe5253 3 месяца назад
No one views exposition as a bad thing - bad exposition is bad, good exposition is good. Usually in film, exposition doesn't include dialogue - I think you're incorrectly explaining what "exposition" actually is from the get go.
@akashmadhavan711
@akashmadhavan711 3 месяца назад
1:13 what is the movie ? Isn't that Taher Rahim? Madame web eh?
@robertmalone9511
@robertmalone9511 3 месяца назад
I think the spirit of "show don't tell" becomes clearer when you realize the rule applies not just to visual media, but also to novels, where we can't literally "see" anything that happens. Everything is "told" to us in some sense, but within that we can still make the distinction. "Show don't tell" really means something closer to "Don't state, demonstrate."
@cube2fox
@cube2fox 3 месяца назад
That's true! Still, "show don't tell" is arguably more important in movies and TV than in novels. I don't know why, but the very same exposition that is boring in a movie can be perfectly fine in a book. Compare, for example, Lord of the Rings with its movie adaptation. The books contain a lot of background exposition while the movies cut most of that out in favor of fast pacing. I think it also applies to episodic TV shows that aren't so constrained by time.
@robertmalone9511
@robertmalone9511 3 месяца назад
@@cube2fox It's true you can get away with longer digressions from the plot in novels--but honestly I'm inclined to argue the rule if anything applies even MORE to novels, since efficiency isn't as much of a concern. You can afford time to show in detail what in a film you can't give more than a line or two. But that's almost just a semantic difference from what you're saying. The tricky thing is that in a novel, if you put ENOUGH detail into an exposition dump, it essentially ceases to be exposition and just becomes a flashback. A character talking for twenty minutes straight in a TV show might be bad writing, but in a novel it's just a new narrator.
@cube2fox
@cube2fox 3 месяца назад
@@robertmalone9511 Interesting point. In novels, long exposition becomes narration, and narration becomes flashback/action etc. Basically the text disappears in favor of what the text describes. That may seem as if "show don't tell" is satisfied automatically, but novels should still leave enough things to the reader to infer for themselves, just like movies, in which not all works succeed. I guess that's what you meant with "don't state, demonstrate". Still, I wonder why narrators are often so awkward in movies. They don't disappear like they do in books. Many movies specifically add sidekick characters which ask the main character "stupid questions" in order to avoid a narrator or inner monologue.
@sneggron
@sneggron 3 месяца назад
Yes, obviously
@Orinslayer
@Orinslayer 3 месяца назад
trust me if youve ever read bad fanfiction you'll know why this is a golden rule.
@Mr_Case_Time
@Mr_Case_Time 3 месяца назад
Oh my god I spend so much time thinking about bad exposition, thank you for this. “Diana, we’ve been married for seven years, I think I know what kind of cake you want for your fortieth birthday party. My name’s Steve by the way.”
@ThomasFlight
@ThomasFlight 3 месяца назад
"Don't forget to pick up our son Danny from middle school on your way home from work."
@Mr_Case_Time
@Mr_Case_Time 3 месяца назад
@@ThomasFlightI think a great example of visual exposition is in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. The camera pans over Eddie’s desk and SO much information can be gathered there. I’ve always enjoyed the process of writing, but it’s the economic use of exposition that I consider to be the hardest puzzle to solve.
@davidbjacobs3598
@davidbjacobs3598 3 месяца назад
@@ThomasFlight Okay, but now I'm interested, because they've been married seven years but their son is in middle school. What's going on there? Is one a step-parent? Did they have Danny then break up then get back together? Did they just remain unmarried until he was six? I want to know.
@Mr_Case_Time
@Mr_Case_Time 3 месяца назад
@@davidbjacobs3598 Danny’s adopted. Diana and Steve decided that they would rather adopt than have a child of their own. Steve went through the foster system when he was young and vowed he would one day save a kid from having to go through that. They were planning on adopting more but just the one is quite the handful, and despite Diana’s mother’s passive aggressive remarks about “having at least one real kid”, they’re content with their family of three.
@CharlesMonroe-fr4vx
@CharlesMonroe-fr4vx 3 месяца назад
This makes me want to write an 80s style meta b movie. Just absolutely shit exposition and the characters look at the screen after every sentence of exposition 😂
@datacentre81
@datacentre81 3 месяца назад
Another factor is just how interested is the audience in getting the information delivered by the exposition? Like, in the Matrix, there's a scene where Morpheus just tells Neo what's going on in the real world. It's an extended minutes long sequence of pure exposition, delivered mostly through dialogue of one character talking. But it works, mostly because it's information that the audience has been teased with for the whole first act. They care a lot about getting all this revealed, so their tolerance for an extended exposition dump is as high as it can be. I think similar exposition dumps usually don't work because the viewer doesn't care enough about what's being revealed. The movie hasn't invested the time to make them care.
@JeantheSecond-ip7qm
@JeantheSecond-ip7qm 3 месяца назад
Also, Neo doesn’t know the information, so it makes sense that Morpheus is telling him. It’s such a simple thing, but filmmakers still often don’t account for why a character is saying the exposition.
@shar3859
@shar3859 3 месяца назад
Makes sense!! You can also see this in Harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban, where Lupin and Sirius finally explain everything that's going on to the trio. Despite being a REALLY long info dump, the explanation is intriuging because you're hearing all this for the first time. Whereas upon rereads, you can notice how long it really is because you already know the information.
@TheVanishedMan1
@TheVanishedMan1 3 месяца назад
This is also why I think a lot of people misunderstand the architect scene from the sequel. People complain about it being confusing exposition but like... that's the point? The character doing the talking is a machine that considers humanity to be a resource; he's dumbing down his language the bare minimum required to be able to communicate in some sense with Neo. This is a conscious choice, and the only reason it works is because we (and Neo) are finally getting answers to questions we've had for 1.5 movies. It's also just nice to see someone in these movies regard Neo as something other than Computer-Jesus.
@ThomasFlight
@ThomasFlight 3 месяца назад
This is a great point. I'd also in that case the ideas contained within the exposition (especially in 1999) were just pretty novel and interesting on their own. This is part of what makes Inception's exposition partially forgivable (although there are some rough patches) because most of what they're explaining is actually kind of interesting. If the exposition is just menial details about the characters it's not nearly as interesting as information that is interesting to the audience on it's own.
@deek0146
@deek0146 3 месяца назад
@@shar3859 Also its implied that Ron is dying of his injuries so it adds an element of suspense to the scene.
@lianabejan64
@lianabejan64 3 месяца назад
My favourite "exposition" is in the original Blade Runner when Deckard goes to the burlesque dance club and there's a boa snake in the changing rooms. He asks the dancer "is this real?" and she responds with "if that were real do you think i would work in a place like this?" to this day it blows my mind. that bit of dialogue tells you about the state of the fauna on earth and the economy and her social status ahhhh
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 3 месяца назад
I mean the movie has been showing that ever since we see LA raining like it’s London 😂❤ (Edited for typos)
@oldoddjobs
@oldoddjobs 3 месяца назад
Woah dude blade runner like blows my mind woah I'm braindead
@lianabejan64
@lianabejan64 3 месяца назад
@@davidw.2791 🤣🤣🤣🤣 never realised that ahahaaaa
@mushkbaar
@mushkbaar 2 месяца назад
Wait I'm guessing it works with the visual context of the scene, but seeing it written out and having not seen the movie, I just assumed she was saying "ain't no way I'd work in a place with a live boa"
@Laurel_Ellenstreet
@Laurel_Ellenstreet 2 месяца назад
Heston's reaction to the berry preserves carelessly left out on a counter in "Soylent Green."
@z-beeblebrox
@z-beeblebrox 3 месяца назад
You know a movie is about to have the siblings kill each other if it starts out with one of them joyously saying “BROTHER!”
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 3 месяца назад
That being said, OP is at risk of being wrong about the opening assertion cuz just because Nowadays Westeners don’t go “SISTER!” “BROTHER!” doesn’t automatically mean they weren’t like that in e.g. the Tutor Era. Don’t just use the Current Day sentiments to deem “Nobody talks like that” because plenty of people do it this very day, if outside the Anglosphere.
@beth12svist
@beth12svist 2 месяца назад
@@davidw.2791 Good point. Reminds me of the scene in The Horse and His Boy (yes, that's book exposition) where Edmund and Susan do call each other that (though not as the opening line of conversation), and since it's all old-time-y speak, it doesn't seem forced at all, it's just part of their elevated royal manner of speaking.
@sagunrai8689
@sagunrai8689 2 месяца назад
@@davidw.2791 had this exact thought seeing the clip placed at the beginning of the video.
@scifigeek14
@scifigeek14 2 месяца назад
Big thor and loki vibes lol
@spaghetto9836
@spaghetto9836 2 месяца назад
​@davidw.2791I'd still disagree a bit. I think no matter the country or time period, there are formal & informal terms for familial bonds. Other languages have their own versions of "bro", "sis", "mommy/daddy", "granny/grandpa", pet terms for uncles & aunts, etc. I feel like modern writers put their preconceptions of older English as formal into their characters' dialogues, when they probably saw each other's English as normally as we see our own. If the characters aren't upper-class, I'd like to see them swear at each other, stutter, have weird humour, etc... as we've done for millennia. In fact, it's nice to see upper-class characters doing that in casual situations. I think it's not just the words, but the whole formal vibe around sibling characters that feels fake no matter the era. My fave examples surrounding this topic are Roman/Greek potty jokes, 1950's actors swearing in bloopers, or scathing insults in "ancient" languages like Hebrew.
@philllllllll
@philllllllll 3 месяца назад
"Do you remember that time when you..." with a LOOOOOT more detail than would be necessary in a normal conversation.
@zzoldd
@zzoldd 3 месяца назад
I HATE WHEN THEY DO THAT SOO MUCH. That in my book is breaking the fourth wall. (The watcher doesnt know so lets remind them) type shi
@soulbitten
@soulbitten 3 месяца назад
It’s only accurate when your boyfriend has ADHD and a terrible memory 😂
@mast3rNate
@mast3rNate 3 месяца назад
“remember when” is the lowest form of conversation
@scobeymeister1
@scobeymeister1 3 месяца назад
if they're mocking someone it could feel natural, tbf. my bf and i say "do you remember when..." all the time but we exaggerate what happened to make fun of each other, like at least weekly. if i were writing it into a scene it would be to establish a playful tone. i think most any dialogue like that can work so long as you can make it feel natural to the characters and show something else about them or their relationship.
@yomommashaus
@yomommashaus 2 месяца назад
Then there's anime doing so much exposition, you become more confused lol: "Ahh. I can see he knows the ancient art of ShoeKicking because of the way he lifted his leg. And if he's willing to show me he knows this then it means my father is already dead, because about 5 days ago I received that message about a mysterious shoekicker while I was eating noodles. It made me stop eating them, which has never happened before. Therefore...."
@richardgrimes5723
@richardgrimes5723 3 месяца назад
Your video made me realize something about the exposition in "Arrival". When you watch Dr. Banks watch television news, the exposition is no longer about aliens arriving. The most amazing thing in the history of the world JUST happened - and she's watching it alone in a dark house. She doesn't even rush to be with her mother. in one minute, we understand just how profoundly alone Dr. Banks is - and she never utters a word.
@michaelcorbett4236
@michaelcorbett4236 3 месяца назад
It adds contrast to what comes later in that through learning the heptapods language she can truly never be alone again.
@TristanCleveland
@TristanCleveland 3 месяца назад
That scene wasn't just good - it made me fall in love with the movie. It gave me such a sense of wonder.
@beanmeupscotty
@beanmeupscotty 2 месяца назад
I think it better demonstrates that she is alone, but not lonely. My impression was that contrasting her reaction to others demonstrated that something was off about her because of how relatively unbothered/unsuprised she was. Same could be said about a lot of her other memories that were progressively revealed. It connects to how she was gifted with having a cyclic personal timeline-nothing could surprise her since she already experienced it, even if it was at a point in her life where she had yet to realize what was happening. Similarly, she may be alone after the people she loved left her, and alone in how she experienced the world, but the lack of linearity made it so she was not truly lonely.
@innocentfba
@innocentfba 29 дней назад
@@beanmeupscottythis is amazing. Thank you. Arrival is one of my favorite movies and this just opened up my eyes!
@Uruz2012
@Uruz2012 27 дней назад
She's watching the news for details about what happened so the writer's can do exposition for the audience. Not everything is significant.
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 3 месяца назад
The walter junior water heater scene (5:17) also shows a lot in the tone and reactions. There's no money AND Walter is ashamed in front of his son AND Skyler stresses about holding the family together. Breaking bad is great at moving multiple playing pieces with each event.
@TheMarkoSeke
@TheMarkoSeke 2 месяца назад
It's also very realistic dialogue, and will hit close to home for anyone that has been in financial struggles with their family.
@kidJK96
@kidJK96 2 месяца назад
I think the only genre of film where I love “forced” exposition is heist films. Oceans introducing each member to showcase their skills, give me MORE
@chiragjampala1929
@chiragjampala1929 Месяц назад
Yesssss the bests scenes r those exposition montages with a funky song playing and snappy edits
@mickeynotmouse
@mickeynotmouse Месяц назад
"you son of a bitch. I'm in"
@Skyfalcon12345
@Skyfalcon12345 Месяц назад
Well, wait a minute. Ocean's is definitely an outlier in basically every cinematic metric. The script is insanely tight, and I hesitate thinking whether any scene in that movie is wasted. Every exposition-related scene is SO much "show don't tell" that it's just burned in my mind as the perfect example. To wit, half the dialogue is veiled references to things you have absolutely no idea what they are, but through context and body language alone can be deciphered. That's incredible scriptwriting and acting
@chiragjampala1929
@chiragjampala1929 Месяц назад
@@Skyfalcon12345 so true looking back my favourite part of oceans 11 is them just talking about shit they’ve done which we have NO idea about. The scene where they discuss the team members needed with all the code names 🤌🤌🤌
@becauseofobi-wan3543
@becauseofobi-wan3543 23 дня назад
You son of a bitch, I'm in😎👉
@Funnymanphilly
@Funnymanphilly 3 месяца назад
This is one of the main reasons I love Denis Villeneueve's films. In a good example, Alejandro's character in Sicario was originally supposed to have a lot more dialogue, with scenes of him expositing his whole backstory to Kate, but Villeneuve and del Toro decided it would be much more interesting to illustrate and slowly reveal this through his actions and snippets of speech, and adds so much intrigue and mystery to his character.
@mariaiacobescu9047
@mariaiacobescu9047 Месяц назад
interesting. i always thought this was the way Taylor Sheridan wrote it, since he has said he hates (unnecessary?) exposition
@mariaiacobescu9047
@mariaiacobescu9047 Месяц назад
i absolutely browsed for a comment mentioning Sicario ❤
@Jake_the_Bioengineer
@Jake_the_Bioengineer 3 месяца назад
That exposition scene from Three Body Problem is so unforgivable to me because the book has such a brilliant cinematic scene that explains how the accelerators are going against all of physics. The POV character is talking to a physicist friend of his who is drunk. The drunk friend is at a pool table and does an experiment. He knocks a ball into a pocket. Then he makes his friend move the whole pool table around the room three times to repeat the experiment in different parts of the room. By the end he's out of breath and barely finished his metaphor: the pool tables give the same result no matter the location of the table, but the accelerators are all giving different results. And as soon as he explains it, he passed out. End scene.
@teneleven5132
@teneleven5132 3 месяца назад
That wouldve been lovely to see i the show, alas
@TheMattyNation
@TheMattyNation 3 месяца назад
The writing on the Three Body Problem is terrible. The character dialogue is so cringe I about gave up on it. It only gets by on the brilliance of ideas in the source material
@emporioalnino4670
@emporioalnino4670 3 месяца назад
​@@TheMattyNation Yeah it's a shame considering the books are good
@santhoshsridhar5887
@santhoshsridhar5887 3 месяца назад
@@teneleven5132 The Tencent show does scenes like those justice. Like Wang Miao investigating the countdown and the cosmic background radiation in a scientific manner, or Ding Yi explaining how the laws of physics are broken through the table example. Though it is NOT necessarily better than the Netflix show, because of how repetitive and stretched out is. Still, it's highs are higher than the Netflix show and I'd suggest giving it a watch if you REALLY like the book. It's free on RU-vid.
@TheMoMoBigGC
@TheMoMoBigGC 3 месяца назад
Thank god i saw it was d&d adapting a book series so i just went to read them instead
@rikkTV
@rikkTV 3 месяца назад
the only "hello, brother" i accept is Buster from Arrested Development
@merry_christmas
@merry_christmas 3 месяца назад
The "hello brother"-hate on the internet is always so funny because I've been calling my brother that for eternity 😅
@christiangomez6239
@christiangomez6239 3 месяца назад
It also has the best moment of 'turning on the news to see the subject being talked about' where they have to sit through unrelated stories and commercial breaks. "Now imagine the impact if that had come on just as I turned on the television!"
@anthonyfossi
@anthonyfossi 3 месяца назад
Annyong
@BimpytheWimpyShrimpy
@BimpytheWimpyShrimpy 3 месяца назад
@@anthonyfossi Hello Annyong
@matthewhamilton2913
@matthewhamilton2913 3 месяца назад
Azula
@NatesFilmTutorials
@NatesFilmTutorials 3 месяца назад
“Somehow Palpatine returned”
@MyoticTesseract
@MyoticTesseract 3 месяца назад
unintentionally the funniest bit of exposition i've ever seen
@TonyBlue87
@TonyBlue87 3 месяца назад
A great example of neither showing *nor* telling.
@ZZubZZero
@ZZubZZero 3 месяца назад
seriously worst writing of the 21st century.
@TheSuperUltraGiraffe
@TheSuperUltraGiraffe 3 месяца назад
The beginning of rise of skywalker is one of the most insane examples of forced exposition i have ever experienced
@claytonwatson1862
@claytonwatson1862 3 месяца назад
​@@TonyBlue87I mean tbf that's not really when the movie is giving that exposition, right in the opening scene you see Snoke clones and Palpatine basically said he was revived by using the dark side of the force. You can say that THAT is vague/lazy exposition but the "somehow palpatine returned" line isn't really relevant.
@arrowrandoman
@arrowrandoman 3 месяца назад
At a writing convention I went to earlier this year, an author called Matthew Bockholt gave a presentation on another approach to the "Show, Don't Tell" concept he called, "Write What You Can't Say." There was a lot to it, but basically, taking the time to present an idea rather than reporting facts, to give an audience questions to fill in themselves rather than always give the answer right away. I think that's the kind of worldbuilding or scene-setting I enjoy most as a reader or audience member. He also suggested making the first draft without worrying about the specifics of how the exposition looks so it can be whittled into a more intriguing form later.
@ChildOfDarkDefiance
@ChildOfDarkDefiance 3 месяца назад
To be fair, in English people did address each other by title or familial relationship a lot more than they do now, & it is still very common in other languages, such as Korean. That example is set in Tudor England. It could be argued that people greeting each other like that is also creating a feel for the setting as well as being exposition.
@Limeyvip
@Limeyvip 3 месяца назад
my favourite FAVOURITE instance of exposition / infodumping is the opening to Hot Fuzz, where we get fed bullet-fast background info on nicolas angel telling us how proficient and overly-seriously he takes job as a cop. any other movie would have taken the show-don't-tell rule literally and decided to show us the protag at a crime scene and solving the case quickly, while the other cops roll their eyes and whisper among themselves about how stick-in-the-mud the protag is. that technically works, but it also 1) takes a lot of time 2) has been overdone to hell and back. by going the complete opposite route of just telling us everything right away, Hot Fuzz can get to the main story as quickly as possible WHILE STILL being able to give us ridiculous extra info (such as angel being a biking expert) that doesn't really matter to the story but tells us a lot about who angel is as a person. it also fits the overall vibe of the movie, a fast-paced over-the-top comedy. also, the crafty part of this infodump is that it doesn't tell you everything--it tells you JUST ENOUGH to get the story started. it doesn't tell you that angel's coworkers are jealous of him and dislike him and want him out of their precinct; they show this to us later on. it doesn't tell you angel takes his job so seriously that he has no friends and has trouble keeping his girlfriend; this is revealed when he has an argument with her later. and one last bit that makes this infodumping work: it's a voiceover that makes sense within the context of the movie itself. it's not just the protagonist telling the audience his own backstory; it's his sergeant reading through angel's profile before meeting with him. does it break the "show don't tell" advice? yes. but does it work? is it entertaining? does it give you the right amount of information without feeling forced and awkward? yes, and i think that matters more!
@lorrrdy
@lorrrdy 3 месяца назад
Yes!!! I love hot fuzz and this info dumping scene is perfect, pure Edgar Wright magic!
@Waverider781
@Waverider781 3 месяца назад
Hot Fuzz legit might be my favorite screenplay; not a single word wasted the entire way through and every little detail is in fact a joke whose punchline gets delivered later on in the movie. I feel like comedies, by nature, have their own rule wrt exposition where as long you can get a laugh out of it, you can get away with a good amount of telling over showing. Roger Rabbit has a great and I guess kind of recursive example of this with the scene in the speakeasy: "No, not at any time. Only when it was funny."
@cameronjosephvideos5942
@cameronjosephvideos5942 3 месяца назад
I mean think about it. Angel is married to the job, he's obsessed with it, his character being introduced with what is essentially his resume is perfect and the fact that they're able to pack quite a few jokes and gags into it ensures it's fun enough to grab the audiences attention and not so long as to overstay its welcome. There's also something about Martin Freeman's delivery that just makes it work.
@beth12svist
@beth12svist 2 месяца назад
@@Waverider781 Oh, excellent point about comedies! I got reminded of the Czech film Kulový blesk (Ball Lightning), which is about a crazy flat-swapping scheme, and spends about ten minutes at the beginning of the film expositioning about it... but since it's interspersed with character introductions and all their various idiosyncracies and off-topic questions et cetera, which is all very much what its humour is about, you don't really realise it takes _that_ long just to explain what the rest of the film will be about plot-wise.
@mistertadakichi
@mistertadakichi 2 месяца назад
Goddamn do I love this movie
@MyoticTesseract
@MyoticTesseract 3 месяца назад
look at that subtle off-white room lighting. the tasteful script writing. oh my god. it even has a nebula ad read.
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 3 месяца назад
Let's see Paul Allen's exposition
@yomommashaus
@yomommashaus 2 месяца назад
🤣🤣
@ian-online
@ian-online Месяц назад
😭
@TonViper
@TonViper Месяц назад
The problem with ending a video by segueing into an ad-read is that it ends up feeling like the video never ended properly. That is why I prefer midroll ads on RU-vid to the ones at the end.
@ajames3062
@ajames3062 3 месяца назад
For me, one of the greatest exposition scenes in movie history is in the first pirates of the Caribbean. It's really random but the scene between Geoffrey Rush and Keira Knightley on the Black Pearl where he explains his curse and the medallion and finishes by biting the Apple and telling her she better start believing in ghost stories cuz she's in the one. The camera, the acting, the script, the set, this scene lives rent free in my mind as one of the greatest exposition scenes of all time despite it telling more than showing.
@Kitth3n
@Kitth3n 3 месяца назад
Black pearl has a lot of expositions and to me its an example doing it well!
@HBarnill
@HBarnill 3 месяца назад
Jack Sparrow's entrance tells you everything you need to know about him without a single word.
@0sm1um76
@0sm1um76 3 месяца назад
​@@HBarnillYeah the movie also has a ton of excellent examples of the opposite kind of exposition. Will Turner also has excellent introductory scenes which get further built upon in subsequent scenes(as Will and his background is a central thing other character are trying to uncover).
@yomommashaus
@yomommashaus 2 месяца назад
@@HBarnill J Depp was such a great cast for Pirates man.. He has to be one of the best at versatility imo.
@kylinajordan
@kylinajordan 2 месяца назад
I think this exposition works because we had the scene with the beginning of the movie being a dream/flashback that establishes the black pearl in relevance to the main characters (Will and Elizabeth's past) as well as establishing the myth/lore of this particular pirate ship. The jail scene also further establishes rhe lore of the ship and it's crew into a campfire ghost story. In a sense, all the demonstrating show scenes already happened, so we have the mystery with pieces of the puzzle and it gets the audience captivated with a child like intrigue so when we get to the pirate ship scene we are desperate for information, desperate for clarification as to what's real or not real about this ghost story. Thus, why the exposition is necessary but also very satisfying when the myths/the stories are confirmed to be true. Such great story structure with scenes that at first may seem unnecessary but prove to be for the set up of the big reveal/twist about the Black Pearl.
@lemonringo566
@lemonringo566 3 месяца назад
Exposition, when done perfectly, is capable of delivering the most emotional scene in the film. My favourite example is in How To Train Your Dragon 2 when Valka says the line "..but a mother never forgets". That line was so smooth and gut wrenching.
@IllusionSector
@IllusionSector 3 месяца назад
One of *my* favorite examples of brilliant exposition is the control room scene in Pixar's *Wall·E* where the captain furiously argues but fails to persuade Auto (Axiom's HAL-esque AI auto-pilot) to fly the ship back to Earth. He then looks at the portraits of all the captains that preceded him for generations, notices Auto ominously in the background behind every one of them in the photo, and realizes that the auto-pilot is the one really in charge of the ship, not the captain.
@EGRJ
@EGRJ 2 месяца назад
I'd argue that part of the line is not exposition. It's implication. Just like "No, you were only a babe." She doesn't just say she last saw him as a kid, or that she's his mom.
@rphntw1n
@rphntw1n 5 дней назад
Not really exposition imo. Just a really good piece of dialogue.
@semioldguy
@semioldguy 2 месяца назад
"Nobody really talks like this." -someone who clearly has never hung out with me and sister
@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 Месяц назад
I knew a family that called the one girl “sis” so you knew she was the sister of the group.
@handcoversbruise1410
@handcoversbruise1410 3 месяца назад
One of my fav exposition is when Mike in Better Call Saul tell story about his son. It was so heartbreakingly written and Jonathan Banks's delivery is top notch
@patricksullivan6988
@patricksullivan6988 3 месяца назад
I appreciate you clarifying that show don't tell can be about subtext - that the "showing" can still be with words rather than images. In my search for a similarly concise or pithy expression, I refer to this corollary as "Say; don't explain."
@Pebphiz
@Pebphiz 3 месяца назад
Perhaps "convey, don't explain"?
@mikeminer1947
@mikeminer1947 3 месяца назад
My favorite writing hack: When a character does something unbelievable, have them say, "I can't believe I'm doing this."
@GabrielsLogic
@GabrielsLogic 3 месяца назад
😂😂
@GabrielsLogic
@GabrielsLogic 3 месяца назад
And when they tell a character what happened, they say "you're not gonna believe this"
@mikeminer1947
@mikeminer1947 3 месяца назад
@@GabrielsLogic Perfect!
@SFTaYZa
@SFTaYZa 3 месяца назад
Awesome whedon dialogue bro
@maegor-targaryen
@maegor-targaryen 3 месяца назад
‘You seeing this?’ ‘Yep, that just happened.’
@persuasivebarrier2419
@persuasivebarrier2419 2 месяца назад
7:50 i didn't see that scene the same way. i thought she was just mocking a drunk man looking for small talk and trying to make advances to see how he'd react.
@jeffbachman2949
@jeffbachman2949 2 месяца назад
Exactly dude was also kind of rude
@WordyGirl90
@WordyGirl90 Месяц назад
Another great moment of the exposition infodump comes from my all-time favorite film, Casablanca. The movie opens with a disembodied, authoritative voiceover explaining the refugee situation in World War 2. Interestingly, we don’t get this kind of omniscient, independent narrator played straight anymore; it shows up in comedies sometimes (see Arrested Development), or the narrator is one of the characters. The Casablanca exposition pairs visuals and riding dramatic tension through music and intonation to make this information seem important. This background helps us understand later plot points, such as the importance of a flight to Lisbon. Then (if I recall correctly) the film proper opens with the radio broadcast about the stealing of letters of transit. It’s brief, punchy, and sets up the vital MacGuffin for the plot. Then, the film switches over to extremely show-don’t-tell mode, and stays there most of the time. We watch interactions of multiple groups of refugees in the streets of Casablanca, and we FEEL their emotional states, the threats they live under, and what they’re hoping to achieve. Casablanca is just a masterclass of everything.
@Authoity4576
@Authoity4576 3 месяца назад
surprised fleabag wasn't mentioned, i feel like that show is the prime example of good exposition dumping
@j.elizabeth4621
@j.elizabeth4621 3 месяца назад
Season 2 is in my top three favorite things ever on film. Absolutely incredible.
@hangedups2608
@hangedups2608 3 месяца назад
NOT AT ALL
@t221000
@t221000 3 месяца назад
I binge watched that show and I agree ☝️
@TOAOM123
@TOAOM123 3 месяца назад
​@@Pedro_Larroza I legitimately wish i could value that show as much as you I couldnt disagree more but im happy you enjoy it
@austincook5475
@austincook5475 2 месяца назад
God no
@emperorchopchop7726
@emperorchopchop7726 3 месяца назад
Primer is my favorite example of invisible exposition. The characters never sound like they're speaking for the benefit of the audience. You're there as a fly on the wall, listening to the characters talk to each other and if you pay close enough attention, you can start to piece together what they're doing...just in time to understand the reveal when the character understands it.
@plr2473
@plr2473 3 месяца назад
primer is super confusing the first watch through. It makes sense for a bit, but then it steps up into overdrive. Yes it all makes logical sense, but you really have to be paying attention, or have to read up on the movie
@emperorchopchop7726
@emperorchopchop7726 3 месяца назад
@@plr2473 I'ver never felt bad about not understanding every scene in Primer, I don't think it's required, and I suspect that it would take away from the experience. IMO the point of the last 30 minutes can be summed up as 'when you screw with time travel, things are gonna get FUBAR.' and that message is clear-as-day even if you can't figure out exactly which Adam is which. It's like Donnie Darko...there's a director's cut that 'explains' things, but the clarity detracts from the story rather than adding to it.
@RunaroundAtNight
@RunaroundAtNight 3 месяца назад
I had to rewatch Primer and then google what was going on before I understood it. But I still don't think I fully understand it.
@anarchisttutor7423
@anarchisttutor7423 3 месяца назад
I love that movie!
@matthewstarkie4254
@matthewstarkie4254 3 месяца назад
My problem with Primer is that the characters never once sound like real people throughout the entire movie. I get that some of that is purposeful because they are repeating lines from previous iterations (even when that doesn't make sense), but a lot of it just seems like bad acting.
@tyrionstrongjaw7729
@tyrionstrongjaw7729 6 дней назад
Seeing someone bring up "Before Sunrise" makes me so happy. It's such a great example of natural dialogue!! I adore that movie.
@chriskaprys
@chriskaprys 3 месяца назад
I like it when the exposition actually has an effect on the scene/characters. One shining example is Aliens, when Ripley is in the briefing meeting: she's finding out first-hand what happened to her colleagues, while also trying to impress upon the committee how lethal this creature is, while we also get to see how dismissive said committee can be (the foreshadowing itself is its own reason to be pissed off on Ripley's behalf) ... the marriage of the situation + writing + Sigourney Weaver's pitch-perfect acting manages to pump a dense amount of backstory + setup into one scene, and justifies Ripley's emotions/behaviour throughout - her anger, defiance, caution, distrust, grief, survivor/mother/badass-ness - all in one scene, in one room. It's exposition very well executed, charged with cause-and-effect that both belongs in this sci-fi otherworld and is very tangible and easy to sympathise with as an audience. Also, Black Mirror, especially the first two seasons. Masterclass in exposition, how it moves the short story along one choice, meaningful reveal at a time.
@N0bodyn01
@N0bodyn01 3 месяца назад
0:07 me and my sister DEFINITELY talk like this.... but to your credit, we probably do it because it is awkward, and inspired from awkward media.
@N0bodyn01
@N0bodyn01 3 месяца назад
@@_I-OvO-I_ That’s a profound perspective. I am glad to finally understand the root cause of my sister and I greeting each other in formal terminology is not simply an inside joke, between siblings(as we always perceived it to be). But in truth, was caused by the psychological damage of consuming the media of such uncivilized imbeciles. Thank you dear friend. I will strive to be more like you, and consume a higher grade of media, so that I no longer call my sister, sister. Thank you, you wise, noble, and mysterious messenger of truth.
@johnathandoe6034
@johnathandoe6034 3 месяца назад
Now I need to know what he said, because this is the most based reply ever... Either way, I also do this all the time with my siblings, usually as a joke though... It's usually followed up with one of us saying "I hate you"
@francescoalexgiacalone878
@francescoalexgiacalone878 3 месяца назад
@@N0bodyn01oh god you Made him delete his comment with this reply
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 3 месяца назад
It may be awkward in the Anglosphere but millions of people elsewhere do it.
@Greenballoffire
@Greenballoffire 2 месяца назад
Ahaha😂 That's nice 😊
@bestfedoracontentonyoutube7485
@bestfedoracontentonyoutube7485 3 месяца назад
heavy voice over enjoyer here, and one thing i love about it is how it can set the tone so well, for example Galadriel in lotr and Travis Bickle from taxis drivers opening monologue set the tone perfectly. extra shoutout to adaptation (2002) for being one of my other favorite uses of voice over.
@yomommashaus
@yomommashaus 2 месяца назад
Don Cheadle in the beginning of Crash was pretty good too. That whole movie had tons of good scenes actually. Like the 2 black guys lamenting at how they are being subtly treated like criminals in the mostly white area and then they ironically contradict themselves by joking "because we got guns" and go and rob some white people lmao. I love that you can't pinpoint which race or gender or religion is getting picked on because it's such a mess of humanity showing the best and worst of each character, leaving you with the understanding that we're all messed up but still have the ability to choose good and to see the good in others.
@susanrobertson984
@susanrobertson984 2 месяца назад
I was running the LOTR exposition through my head as I listened to this video.
@YourBlackLocal
@YourBlackLocal 3 месяца назад
Exposition works when it’s in service of an argument. People naturally exposit when trying to convince others. “I wanted to be a gangster.” Works because the movie is Henry’s argument for why he loved the life, literally ending on him explaining how bad life is without it.
@KZ-tt9me
@KZ-tt9me 3 месяца назад
Hiding exposition in an argument, playful or not, is one of my favourite tricks. The tv show Leverage did it a lot. It gives the characters a reason to be talking to each other (even about something they already know), can run the gamut from hilarious to gutting, and how people communicate/react in arguments tells you a TON about the individuals and their relationships. You don't need your characters to tell the audience that they're siblings or ex-lovers or best friends if the audience watches them argue. As he said, having multiple layers of information is really key in making it feel organic.
@Kenkenny82
@Kenkenny82 3 дня назад
Personnaly, I love the introduction of 10 Cloverfield lane. There is almost no dialogue in the first minutes, and yet you learn everything you need to know about the main character.
@ImmaculateOtter
@ImmaculateOtter 3 месяца назад
A fantastic example of voiceover is in The Batman. The whole introductory monologue is a journal entry. It gives crucial information about the setting and the psyche of the protagonist. Plus it’s stinkin cool.
@lh790_
@lh790_ 3 месяца назад
Some of the best use of inworld-media exposition has to be the TV montage from Shaun of the Dead.
@Eamonshort1
@Eamonshort1 3 месяца назад
That scene is genius
@GorgeDawes
@GorgeDawes 3 месяца назад
It works because we the audience are learning things at the same time as the characters in the scene. Oh, and it’s also brilliantly edited and extremely funny, so, you know, there’s that.
@jmckendry84
@jmckendry84 3 месяца назад
​@@GorgeDawesI'd say that we're not really learning something at the same time as the characters. We already know it's a zombie movie. We know there's going to be a zombie outbreak. We know all the little clues we've already seen are hints it's about to happen. But the characters don't know any of this, it's just a normal day to them.
@kb_100
@kb_100 3 месяца назад
Starship Troopers for me
@captainbigos9267
@captainbigos9267 Месяц назад
Actually, my sister and I call each other "Sister/Brother" followed by our names. Something like, "Sister Jane!", and she responds with "Hello Brother John!" So, some people do talk like that ;)
@Pixiemaniac
@Pixiemaniac Месяц назад
I think a great example of exposition is used in the Malayalam movie mayanadhi . It's about an aspiring actress and her ex boyfriend (who is also a convict on the run ) meeting up 1 yr after their breakup (or more like him ghosting her ) . It isn't a conventional movie that is compartmentalised into different acts . In fact the whole movie begins with the 2 main leads meeting unexpectedly after their breakup, we as a audience isn't given a unnecessary narration as to what has happened , instead we pick it up from their conversation , their is little to no acknowledgement of the audience , in fact it feels like 2 ppl having a conversation and we are prying on them . And throughout the film we know little about the male lead apart from that he is her ex boyfriend and that he is on the run . We only get to know more of him from a conversation the female lead has with a friend of hers . And that was such a breath of fresh air to witness. For once the audience has to listen to the conversations to actually understand the story rather than everything thrown on their faces .
@transrightsdinosaur
@transrightsdinosaur 3 месяца назад
Thanks for bringing up 12 Angry Men!! What an absolute writing masterclass of a movie. I need to rewatch it, it's been a year or two.
@Hemlocker
@Hemlocker 3 месяца назад
I think a brilliant bit of exposition/world-building is the opening scene of Children Of Men.
@vickdinvick5485
@vickdinvick5485 3 месяца назад
children of men is a masterpiece
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 3 месяца назад
@@vickdinvick5485Alfonso Cuaron and Rian Johnson are the same kind of brilliant: Their own projects and IP picks, sure; making something in the middle of a series, questionable. You won’t even believe Prisoner Of Azkaban was done by the same guy, in terms of screenplay & its execution re: Exposition et al. How COULD you change the book’s point that “Sirius Black was magically the ONLY person who knew the secret” to “he was ONE OF the few who knew”?? 🙃 Among many other things.
@JonathanWymer
@JonathanWymer 3 месяца назад
Okay, YES. 12 Angry Men! One of my favorites of all time and just rewatched a few days ago. It's incredible in its subtle yet strong exposition through a dialogue-driven, singular location movie. I think all of the examples you used for displaying great feats of exposition done well treat the audience with respect and have them engage with the story rather than sit back and be told everything. Great video, Thomas!!
@chelseymoore1786
@chelseymoore1786 3 месяца назад
When you said, "Exposition is always going to be more interesting to the audience when we understand why this information is important to the characters", I immediately thought of the finale of "Chernobyl" in which Legasov explains the nuclear meltdown at Dyatlov & Co.'s trial-we need to know, it's what the whole series is building up to, how this awful catastrophe occurred, but it's also important for the in-world "audience" (those present at the trial) because they must make a legal determination based on their understanding of the events. It's also important for Legasov to communicate the information because in doing so he's able to expose the government's negligence. AHHH, SO GOOD! Great video 😃
@notme222
@notme222 25 дней назад
I don't know why it stuck with me, but _Frasier_ was always very good at it: Roz: Your brother called. He'll meet you at . Frasier: Oh good. Niles and I got reservations at this prestigious new restaurant. Roz: Episodic sitcoms had to redo a little exposition every time because you always had new viewers, and when they could do it quickly and smoothly it's a useful skill.
@marknelson55
@marknelson55 3 месяца назад
My favourite expository voiceover, at least off the top of my head right now, is Taxi Driver, because it gives you the view of Travis Bickle's fairly insane mind parallel to the more objective view of the camera, making it not just useful to speed up exposition, but something you could not get as well otherwise. Those kind of unique insights are probably the greatest advantage books have over films, where internal monologue is so easy.
@yomommashaus
@yomommashaus 2 месяца назад
"internal monologue is so easy" - anime has entered the chat
@xingcat
@xingcat 3 месяца назад
I think Memento has a great twist on this, in that a character has to tell himself what he doesn't know, because he can't retain information for any length of time.
@WaveSamu
@WaveSamu 3 месяца назад
great video! for me personally, Children of Men by Alfonso Cuaron is the manifestation of "show, don't tell" I love this movie so much for example in the first scene, they made use of the "TV broadcast exposition" while also introducing us to the main character to a certain extent AND having a dramatic (and by the way well shot) scene that reveals how instable the country is, in which the story takes place
@acarroll6842
@acarroll6842 3 месяца назад
MY favourite bit of expo from Only Lovers Left Alive is when Eve talks to the plant using its scientific name, and she says it's too early (or too late) to be out this time of year or something along those lines. Like yeah, someone who lives 600 years would totally notice tiny things like that. If I were to ever write an immortal character I'm using that line as inspiration
@sikliztailbunch
@sikliztailbunch 3 месяца назад
recently saw a movie that started with a press conference where journalists asked a lot of questions and had them answered. That felt plausible and organic.
@davidmylchreest3306
@davidmylchreest3306 3 месяца назад
One of my favourite ways to deliver exposition is when it happens in the middle of a big chase / action scene. The Bourne or Terminator series have loads of these.
@ThatGuySquippy
@ThatGuySquippy 3 месяца назад
Every time I hear someone say "hot water heater" I die a little inside.
@EveloGrave
@EveloGrave 3 месяца назад
"ATM machine" is another one that causes that feeling.
@MrOtistetrax
@MrOtistetrax 3 месяца назад
@@EveloGraveit’s such an redundant tautology.
@VikingKong.
@VikingKong. 3 месяца назад
@EveloGrave RIP in peace.
@RonPaul42069
@RonPaul42069 3 месяца назад
It's unnecessary exposition, really
@s.henrlllpoklookout5069
@s.henrlllpoklookout5069 3 месяца назад
PIN number
@guyyaaqovhammel6786
@guyyaaqovhammel6786 3 месяца назад
In the short film "The Hire - The Follow", a short film Wong Kar Wai made for BMW, Mickey Rourke's character asks Clive Owen's "You have a wife?" to which Owen's character replies ever so sharply "Not anymore". This answer, paired with the sarcasticly toned delivery, gives us so much insight into this character, not only does it show the viewers so much about the characters approach to the world and to other people, but it also delivers substantial information about his personal history and atleast 2 crucial moments of his life, making us know AND feel the character a little bit better.
@nurajannattaslima9853
@nurajannattaslima9853 Месяц назад
17:27 would that be considered good exposition
@evanward4303
@evanward4303 3 месяца назад
Glad to see you used Severance as an example. Really looking forward to season 2. Everyone should see it!
@tbird81
@tbird81 3 месяца назад
It's so, so boring. And from reviews (at least from those not taken in by the blatant pretentiousness of the show) it seems it doesn't get better.
@kameryngreer3098
@kameryngreer3098 2 месяца назад
@@tbird81So the people who don’t like it also happen to think it’s bad? It feels a bit circular, no?
@bryanchu5379
@bryanchu5379 3 месяца назад
bro this mf has been carrying film analysis youtube on his back for years now like at a certain point we need to start talking about how his legacy measures up against goats like every frame a painting
@thysquid2157
@thysquid2157 3 месяца назад
Film analysis on RU-vid seems to mostly be a ghastly pit of content farms. It’s so refreshing that a handful of channels actually know what they’re talking about and make quality videos.
@Bandofbeebles
@Bandofbeebles 3 месяца назад
Do you guys have suggestions for other good film channels? I’ve found a lot of cookie cutter content farm ones but very few good channels
@padawansound6423
@padawansound6423 3 месяца назад
@@Bandofbeebles Yhara Zayd, The Cinema Cartography, Pop Culture Detective, Lessons From The Screenplay, In Praise Of Shadows, Broey Deschanel, off the top of my head. There's probably quite a few more (I didn't mention the obvious ones like RLM), plus a lot of mixed media channels, social commentary channels etc. that incorporate film and media into their discussions
@Sporting1210
@Sporting1210 3 месяца назад
@@Bandofbeebles I'd like to add "Like stories of old", which i rather enjoy.
@MrMertakhai
@MrMertakhai 3 месяца назад
@@Sporting1210 Thomas Flight and Like Stories of Old are my fuckin' GOATs
@lulupain18
@lulupain18 2 месяца назад
I know that it is a different media, but Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events books have great exposition. I can't put it into words, but I savored every bit of information about the characters and the world.
@ytkenny5
@ytkenny5 2 месяца назад
"He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders just before she died"
@user-ih6dh7yz8z
@user-ih6dh7yz8z 3 месяца назад
I'm glad you included the three body problem because I couldn't stand the dialogue.
@shridharambady2069
@shridharambady2069 3 месяца назад
It's an interesting example because the books its based on are *notorious* for having poor wooden dialogue. It's my favorite book series, but the story is basically a vehicle for the author to convey his answer to the Fermi paradox, and so characters are very one dimensional and exist purely to convey this. The TV show, if you can believe it, actually gives the characters and dialogue more depth than the source material (at the massive expense of the actual science and ideas)
@Kitth3n
@Kitth3n 3 месяца назад
@@shridharambady2069honestly prefer the relatively simple book characters to the cringey millennials
@emperorchopchop7726
@emperorchopchop7726 3 месяца назад
that three body problem scene had legit 'The neutrinos have mutated' vibes
@XMysticHerox
@XMysticHerox 3 месяца назад
@@shridharambady2069 Common issue with sci fi. Writers are often more interested in conveying high level concepts and the actual story and characters come after.
@santhoshsridhar5887
@santhoshsridhar5887 3 месяца назад
@@shridharambady2069 By "depth", you mean intentionally adding a bunch of civilians and children into the Guzheng scene just so the main character can start feeling conflicted about the operation? That's stupid. I definitely agree that the latter half of the book is filled with tons of wooden exposition, but the first half was pretty good in terms of exposition and dialogue for a sci fi novel conveying unique ideas that were absolutely not in the Netflix show.
@penrose5383
@penrose5383 3 месяца назад
glad you mentioned arrival. it shows in a "dazzling" way, where the start of the movie starts off with the audience being shown some weird vision that doesnt really make any sense. the alien's language, is shown. it makes the audience feel engaged, through their own capacity to pay attention or rather to see "what is going on" because of these showings. the emotional payoff at the end wouldn't be possible without some sense of showing, because SHOWING is one of the themes of the entire movie. showing, which is really observing (to show is to show to someone), isn't possible without time. moreover showing love isn't possible without time, feeling pain isn't possible without time.
@masteroogway2405
@masteroogway2405 3 месяца назад
theres a malayalam short film called "night call" here on youtube. it only has one character and takes place in his house. i think it has done an excellent job in doing exposition the correct way. u might find it a bit awkward cuz its another language tho.
@4ofdubs
@4ofdubs 3 месяца назад
Where are the English subtitles for that?
@masteroogway2405
@masteroogway2405 3 месяца назад
@@4ofdubs I think it's in yt itself. Try going to settings and settings subtitles to english (uk)
@izarscharf7845
@izarscharf7845 2 месяца назад
for the point at 3:00 you clearly havent met busy PIs, the data might be a week or two old an this is the first time he talks to her ...
@jeffbachman2949
@jeffbachman2949 2 месяца назад
He also left our the context of the scene as we find out she's basically his mentor that taught him everything, and he's looking to her for answers, hoping she has figured it out. Context matters.
@TheYellowProdigy
@TheYellowProdigy 3 дня назад
I just watched Blink Twice and I actually thought the way they tried to hit home with some of the twists landed well... But then sadly they had moments that really broke the moments of good story telling. A supporting character asking a well exposed bit character: "Hey, you were in the Marines right?" "Yeah" (His first speaking line after about being in the movie for an hour - coincidentally right before a dramatic action scene) "Be a hero twice and get me some ice"
@santiagobauza4257
@santiagobauza4257 3 месяца назад
I immediately thought of the Severance pilot when I saw this video pop up in my feed. Creating a situation in which the exposition comes so naturally, which works two-fold (to introduce Helly's innie into this world and to help Mark getting used to his new tasks), is one of the most brilliant ways around it that I've seen, while keeping the audience gripped on just how this world works.
@tbird81
@tbird81 3 месяца назад
How could anyone even get through that pilot. So boring, over-rated and pretentious.
@isCarsonMiller
@isCarsonMiller 3 месяца назад
First scene that came to mind for me was Snowpiercer when they get to the classroom and use the kids/video to inform the backstory of how everyone got here, while also adding this creepy cult-like devotion the higher class passengers have for Wilford, making the whole environment more unsettling and daunting.
@ddawn23
@ddawn23 2 месяца назад
I appreciate the notice at the beginning of the video that it’s also available on Nebula. I encountered your channel by the algorithm recommending this video, and I otherwise wouldn’t have known you’re a Nebula creator. Saw the notice, hopped over to Nebula, and got to watch the extended version easy peasy
@BlazeMakesGames
@BlazeMakesGames 3 месяца назад
Man I love severance I hope it gets a second season soon. But yeah I think that opening scene is stellar, plus on top of that I think that the visual set up does a lot to help as well. The start of the scene has Helly sprawled out on a conference table. It's a relatively mundane setting, but obviously that's not how a table work, and then of course the only other sense of life is this strange voice coming out of a small box asking "Who Are you?" repeatedly. And then as she gets up, she looks around the room and you see that there are no windows and only one door, which is locked. So before you actually even learn anything about the characters or the setting, it's already setting you up for this setting to simultaneously feel mundane, but also uncomfortable and probably a little fucked up. It waits to give you the exposition because by creating this sense of uncomfort and dread first, I think that *that* is what makes you *want* to hear the exposition, because suddenly now you want to know just what is going on as much as the character does.
@theironmullet
@theironmullet 3 месяца назад
I do actually greet my sibilings with "Hello Brother" or "Hello Seeester" but it's always a reference to Arrested Development.
@antoinepetrov
@antoinepetrov 3 месяца назад
Always a good day when Thomas posts a video
@jonathan13co
@jonathan13co 3 месяца назад
8:20 You should watch 12 angry men. Period. One of the greatest movies ever made - its concept, acting and style are timeless. A great example of flawless storytelling. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but you can learn a lot from it about great storytelling.
@bellaharris9789
@bellaharris9789 3 месяца назад
The City of Brass trilogy is literature, not cinema, but its exposition is the best I’ve ever seen. You read the first book and it feels like a whole, complex, and complete story, but once you read the rest of the series you realize the first book was literally entirely exposition. It blew my mind. The series also does the dual perspective thing, which I enjoy, but while in most books with this type of writing, the separate characters meet each other within 5-10 chapters, if not right off the bat, in City of Brass they don’t even know the other exists until about 200 pages in. And even then, it takes another 50 for them to actually get to know each other, and by the end of the first book the romance (even the inkling of it) hasn’t even started yet. The story is driven by the plot and character development, not by the romance, which is so refreshing.
@HeyNonyNonymous
@HeyNonyNonymous 3 месяца назад
"I am your father" is NOT an exposition. It's a plot twist. It's a fucking climax. Exposition is the setting of information necessary to understanding the background of a narrative. Not every information given through dialog is exposition. Expository information can be given through other means. Exposition can be shown, it doesn't have to be told.
@zachhopkins6162
@zachhopkins6162 3 месяца назад
Something can be two things at once. It is indeed technically exposition (reveal of important background information or details). Your definition may vary but 'I am your father' is about as expository as it gets under this definition.
@pressrepeat2000
@pressrepeat2000 3 месяца назад
Yeah, why did he call that exposition? “I am your father” is the opposite of exposition. Very weird analysis.
@pressrepeat2000
@pressrepeat2000 3 месяца назад
@@zachhopkins6162 It’s definitely not exposition. It’s an event. All dialogue that has some information in it (vs “ugh” or “I get it” or whatnot) isn’t exposition. “I am your father” wasn’t background information, it was a plot twist, an event, a reveal.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 3 месяца назад
This OP also thinks there is no possible era ever where westeners addressed siblings with Sister Brother so yeah feet of clay and all that.
@Laurel_Ellenstreet
@Laurel_Ellenstreet 2 месяца назад
Exposition is "Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father."
@moonaddict
@moonaddict 3 месяца назад
2:24 funny, I came across this video randomly, and that was exactly my feeling when I saw this scene while trying to watch this series, I immediately thought: "wait, is this the first time they are seeing each other? Is it possible that they have never talked about this before? or is it just because the camera is present now?" (I gave up watching right at the end of this ep)
@BigFaoiter
@BigFaoiter 3 месяца назад
gotta get a sopranos series like you did the wire
@ThomasFlight
@ThomasFlight 3 месяца назад
I would love to do this some day, just gotta carve out the time to rewatch the whole series.
@zucchinigreen
@zucchinigreen 3 месяца назад
​@@ThomasFlight I researched it recently for the first time ever, and it makes perfect sense why it's Donald Glover's fave series. So much of Atlanta's surrealism is Sopranos' coded. I think it's worth a revisit if only to show its impact in less well-known ways.
@spencerlee8639
@spencerlee8639 3 месяца назад
Furiosa's opening motorcycle chase was great exposition.
@youareabsolutelyright7345
@youareabsolutelyright7345 16 дней назад
I feel like when someone understands “show don’t tell” well enough, they can tell to show.
@catabat49654
@catabat49654 3 месяца назад
On the same note of “12 Angry Men,” reading/watching plays is a fantastic way of learning how to do well done exposition dialogue. The modern play is usually written to have broad appeal production-wise so it can be produced in a large number of theaters with varying budgets, but that also means you can’t rely on a set or directorial choices to tell the whole story. Some pieces of info are vital for the audience to know, so the characters HAVE to say them in some way or another. A Raisin in the Sun (and its film adaptation) is another great example of the characters using dialogue to establish certain story beats (like the Younger’s financial troubles, Walter’s desires that lead to his errors in judgment, Beneatha’s attitudes about education and Afrocentricism, etc) that couldn’t be shown on a stage.
@MrShagification
@MrShagification 3 месяца назад
"Nobody really talks like this..." I always just say "sister" when getting my sister, and she almost always just says "brother".
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 3 месяца назад
In a lot of cultures e.g. Chinese, you SHOULD call siblings and other family members by their relation to you and not their names. Even in liberal-minded families with e.g. a stepmom who won’t insist you call her “mom”, you should still call her “auntie”, and not her name. Also even in the Anglosphere: who the F are we to summarily dismiss that it happened during e.g. the Tudor era just because NoBodY tAlkS liKe thAt 😅
@sophiaisabelle01
@sophiaisabelle01 3 месяца назад
We appreciate your efforts. We hope to see more content like this.
@M4TCH3SM4L0N3
@M4TCH3SM4L0N3 3 месяца назад
And you, Thomas Flight, we will watch your career with great interest!
@uknwtheusername
@uknwtheusername 3 месяца назад
I'm glad someone's explaining why 3BP is so awkward
@thenetworkingstudy2208
@thenetworkingstudy2208 3 месяца назад
I couldn't finish the first episode. The writing, acting, and casting were all so bad. It had so much potential, I've heard good things about the book and the concept sounded good. But yeah it just felt like just a shitty network TV show. It just felt like "content" instead of people really trying to make something special. Maybe it gets better but that first episode is just so bad.
@uknwtheusername
@uknwtheusername 3 месяца назад
@@thenetworkingstudy2208 yeah it's a 6/10 at best. I pushed on and want to say it got better around ep4, but even then, not by much
@santhoshsridhar5887
@santhoshsridhar5887 3 месяца назад
@@thenetworkingstudy2208 Read the book
@santhoshsridhar5887
@santhoshsridhar5887 3 месяца назад
@@thenetworkingstudy2208 Read the book
@diantyn6870
@diantyn6870 3 месяца назад
i watched the first episode and totally forgot about it the next day. i wont be watching it again lmao
@casa432
@casa432 Месяц назад
I think attack on titan is one of the best examples that showcases how to use exposition, in essence the story is entirely a quest for exposition till season 4, small reveals that the characters seek out and some they don’t, and it is entirely rewarding and natural
@luissopelana
@luissopelana 2 месяца назад
12:20 Come to think about it, it's great how that sequence subverts the awful "turn on the TV and the important newsdump happens to be broadcasting" trope by having Actual Relevant Breaking News interrupt the established status quo. Children of Men did that subversion brilliantly in its first scene, too.
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 3 месяца назад
My all-time favorite use of voiceover is _The Informant!_ [SPOILERS] ... As much as it is exposition, it's also just the main character's inner monologue as he gradually succumbs to bipolar disorder. The narration becomes increasingly eccentric and rapid-fire until he can't keep up with his own thoughts. And then when he gets treatment, it's gone.
@aracnadei13
@aracnadei13 Месяц назад
Great perspective on this important aspect of storytelling. Another related thing is stories told without dialogue, such as many of the comics of Thomas Ott. Not only are they easily accessible to all languages, but the masterful way he commands the 'show, don't tell' concept is amazing to see.
@natmurr464
@natmurr464 Месяц назад
It's also HUGE to remember that 'show don't tell' looks so different across formats! Dialogue is the most interesting and effective way to characterize in novels and prose, whereas less dialogue more movement is best for scripts like plays and screenplays. Hence why novel writers have trouble applying their skills to screenplays and vise-versa
@boiledelephant
@boiledelephant Месяц назад
Shout out to le Carré, whose novels are unparalleled in their ability to show you who characters are, what the look like, how they move and speak, without describing any of it. Once you notice it it's spooky how well he does it. Also shout out to the opening of Lord of the Rings, which breaks all the rules and looks on paper like terribly clunky exposition, but somehow the musical score and Cate Blanchett's voiceover work make it perfect.
@7headedgiraffe
@7headedgiraffe 3 месяца назад
was wondering if you went to school for film or cinematography? how’d you become so knowledgeable
@ThomasFlight
@ThomasFlight 3 месяца назад
No formal education, I just worked in film and commercial video for a few years and basically have been studying film on my own full time for about a decade.
@7headedgiraffe
@7headedgiraffe 3 месяца назад
@@ThomasFlight So sick. can really sense the passion in the videos. AND THE EDITING!? keep it up.
@kmlgraph
@kmlgraph 3 месяца назад
Quentin Tarantino. A master screenwriter who crafts stylized expository dialogue that seems natural to the characters. I love how his characters often move the action forward with dialogue by building suspense and conflict. Example: my favourite two scenes in "Inglorious Basterds" is the opening scene with Landa calmly confronting the farmer hiding Jewish refugees in his basement, and the cafe "strudel" scene with Landa, Joseph Goebbels and Shosanna. That scene almost seems like a farce as Goebbels and his entourage make plans to show a Nazi propaganda film in Shosanna's theatre while she tries to control her terror at being seated next to Landa.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 3 месяца назад
Except when his reach exceeds his grasp and he ends up forgetting to put Himmler into his “Jewish revenge fantasy”.
@delthorpe223
@delthorpe223 3 месяца назад
In the recent film La Chimera, there's the best exposition dump ever - I was just getting frustrated with the film for not being clear enough when a folk band turn up and start singing about the main character. They explain everything in a fun, ironic, meta way (an equally fun montage accompanies it) and I was back on board!
@cj-cv7zv
@cj-cv7zv Месяц назад
Your Walter Junior example doesn't really work as an example of telling over showing... because it literally is a show don't tell moment. Just because the "showing" is done through dialogue, doesn't automatically mean it's a "telling" moment. The writer's intention to inform us on the White's financial situation is SHOWN to us through the tension created through Walt Jr's complaining. There are some great examples of telling over showing, but that maybe wasn't the best one
@heheheiamasupahstarchimera631
@heheheiamasupahstarchimera631 2 месяца назад
I'll stop praising the Homestuck sequel's Yiffany reveal when I'm dead. A chapter's worth of sparse buildup, the denial-fueled thought of "no, she can't be talking about a kid," a timeline defined by feelings jams that uses frustrating timeskip epilogue tropes as an existential threat, culminating in one of the most dread-inducing secret-revealing conversations I've ever read, with the full name reveal giving a brief moment of reluctant hilarity while also being the most shocking part. All this information is left to stew in the reader's mind until the next bonus update, where Dirk finds out about it and we start to realize what this kid really is. She's the pharmakon. We still haven't seen her in action yet. The readers are anxiously waiting to see her. Then the story takes this as a challenge. It is actively trying to change your mind. This is a good idea. This character is interesting and the culmination of everything this half of the story was building to. Look how cool she is and how refreshingly angry her internal dialogue is. You want to root for her. She is the victim of a timeline that matters very little, and she should not exist. It's working. People are coming around on her. They're being sold on it. The only issue is that every time the new team uses her to her full potential and writes things the previous writers could hypothetically already have been planning, people see it as "fixing bad writing" somehow.
@TheRoomforImprovement
@TheRoomforImprovement 3 месяца назад
I always thought another good way to convey exposition is to set up a mystery. That way, you’ll get the audiences attention and make them want to know what’s going on. Jurassic Park does a great job at this. It opens with a worker getting mauled by a dinosaur. This gets the audience thinking, “how are there dinosaurs in the present day?” Then, when the scientists arrive on the island and see a living breathing dinosaur, they want to know how this was possible just as much as the audience does. Another key part is when and how to answer that mystery. JP does this by conveying the exposition on how they brought dinosaurs back through a theme park tour, fitting since that’s What Jurassic Park was intended to be. This also shows how the park views the dinosaurs as little more than attractions to generate profit.
@DCJayhawk57
@DCJayhawk57 3 месяца назад
Denis Villeneuve is great. Arrival is a highly underrated film. Sicario, Prisoners, the Dune films, Blade Runner 2049. I think on the topic of voiceovers, what makes Fight Club so effective is that we have an unreliable narrator. Without all his exposition, we wouldn't feel the same shock at the twist when it's revealed he is Tyler Durden all along.
@bennygerow
@bennygerow 3 месяца назад
It's so funny that you used TBP clips because I just started watching it, and I was rolling my eyes at the scenes you showed and several more. It's just so freaking heavy handed. Look! This person is smart! See how smart they are? This person is weak. Look at them being weak! You see it?
@21centurymagic
@21centurymagic 2 месяца назад
My favourite film that quietly bleeds drips and drabs of exposition was the first John Wick film, especially before any sequel films came out, because there was so much mystique around John, with so many "Who is this guy? What is this universe?" and only getting crumbs and hints of answers which had a great way of capturing interest
@Laurel_Ellenstreet
@Laurel_Ellenstreet 2 месяца назад
Favorite recent TV example of a delayed payoff exposition. "The Last of Us" Pilot. Ellie passing the time in Tess and Joel's apartment ***SPOILER*** Flips open the music book. Notices that a "Bill and Frank" have a code involving what decade a song comes from. Ellie pretends to have heard an 80s song on the radio while Joel was napping, his reaction confirms that "80s" means trouble. (And shows something of their personalities.) The 1987 Depeche Mode song "Never Let Me Down Again" closes the episode - but it's not soundtrack. It's on the radio in the now-empty apartment. At the end of the next episode alert viewers know that Tess's desperate idea to get Ellie to Bill and Frank probably won't work. At the end of the third episode Joel shows Ellie the "dead man's switch" Bill had, starting the 80s playlist after a certain period of inattention. Ellie is like I-toldya-so. And we remember the pilot had ended with Joel, Tess, and Ellie missing what was essentially Bill and Frank's death notice.
@Groundeyes
@Groundeyes 3 месяца назад
This is so good. I've just finished watching 3 Body Problem and that was one of my issues with it, exactly that scene where they talk about what their careers is so abrupt. when they could have just put them in a scene doing their work or just asking how their nanofiber work is going, or when the final test happening. How does it become this bad though? is it laziness, lack of QA or unexperienced? Wasn't expecting it to be that bad in 3 Body Problem.
@ZigbertD
@ZigbertD 2 месяца назад
The video touches on this, but I think it's important to emphasize that "showing" can be just as awkward and unnatural as "telling" can be, if it doesn't really make sense for a character to be doing a particular action, or if it arises from something that seems contrived and implausible. In some ways this is worse than simply having contrived or implausible plot, because at least bad plot is serving the story ultimately, whereas bad plot that's only there to serve an expository goal sticks out even worse. One technique that can be very effective for having a character simply deliver a lot of exposition is when it occurs in the form of a confession of some sort. Like Salieri in the film Amadeus, he offers a lot of background information about himself and his relationship with Mozart, but he has a dramatic motivation for doing so. His guilt and remorse over his belief that he caused Mozart's death is tormenting him and he is desperate for absolution. Or in Nabokov's "Lolita", Humbert Humbert is nominally offering a confession about his criminal pedophilia, but in doing so is revealing very subtly how manipulative and self-serving his explanations and excuses are, he's essentially showing us very slowly what a monster he really is by attempting to con the audience with his charm and intelligence. His motivation is the opposite of Salieri's. Humbert is desperately attempting to evade real moral accountability for his actions. Both of these examples are very satisfying from the standpoint of storytelling, as the character's psychological motivations are both the source of the plot and the reason they choose to reveal the information that we are given.
@Lammy4ever7
@Lammy4ever7 3 месяца назад
I think one of my favorite opening scenes is "Murder On The Orient Express" (1974). There's no dialogue. Just vague images, newspaper clippings, and really creepy music. The best part is it then drops you in another situation, leaving the audience to wonder, "What was that about?" until the murder mystery comes up and it's like, "Ohhh...."
@Laurel_Ellenstreet
@Laurel_Ellenstreet 2 месяца назад
I love @ThomasFlight emphasizing that these pat rules like "show, don't tell" depend on the context. I love the world building in the 2018 movie "Prospect" in part, because so much of the dialogue contributes to the world building without feel gratuitously expository. There is a LOT of exposition and backstory, but much of it feels like like organic characterization and theme building. The facts shared often don't matter, and even when they do, the scene adds character context. ***SPOILER, some exposition that does more** 1. We learn over a speaker why Damon and Cee MUST finish work and get off the moon in time. Cee learns her Dad didn't disclose a major risk. 2. We learn Cee's mom is dead from Damon reciting backstory. Cee learns, again, the he doesn't tell her basic stuff like where she was born. We learn that Damon can show fondness for his daughter but only when drugged and a small part of me is creeped out by him mentioning how much she looks like her mother in that state. 3. Harvesting demonstration, the movie's plainest fact reveal: it takes patience and dexterity, and poses an explosion risk. This knowledge generates suspense when Ezra later repeats the entire procedure with one hand, his non-dominant one. Mainly about plot, though the outcome shows Cee's tactical knack and their growing teamwork. 4. Ezra likes to tell (back) stories and we are treated to a tedious one, but I think this makes his later speechless distress (when confronted with the loss of his dominant arm) more compelling, and his instinct to re-anchor himself with his words feels natural and a relief. 5. Sater backstory conveys info that does matter, but in the moment it's an uncomfrtable interval to doubt Ezra's trustworthiness along with Cee. 6. Cee's description of her beloved YA novel, her fanfic, and her Dad baggage: as fun as The Streamer Girl sounds, it's there to show Cee tentatively feeling safe with Ezra, show that olive branch rewarded by him, and to bask in Cee feeling seen by Ezra in a way her father did not.
@heathi51
@heathi51 3 месяца назад
i think what's also relevant by the "telling" of the walter jr. scene that might be missed in a "showing" is his tone, his specific feelings on the hot water-that he is not just frustrated about not having it but frustrated at his parents (and more specifically his father) for not fixing it. we also get to see skylar and walter's reactions and begin to build their emotional landscapes as well
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