I commuted in my Arcimoto FUV through the first Winter I owned it (2019-2020, before moving to work-from-home in March 2020,) in "similar to London" winter conditions. A medium weight jacket, gloves, and a cap, and the heated seats and grips were plenty. Mine had the "half doors" which kept other cars from splashing water on me effectively, and just moving forward, the aerodynamics were enough to keep "normal rain" from hitting me. Only at stop lights would rain falling hit my elbows unless there was strong wind blowing the rain sideways in.
In a true similar to London scenario, your average speed would be 11mph so you’d get much wetter. Traffic in London moves at a snails pace, the Renault Twizzy didn’t sell in large numbers in the U.K. despite it’s suitability for urban transport. This led to Renault discontinuing it here. Given the price of the Acimotor, if it was ever brought here I don’t think it would sell particularly well either, given that if Renault decided to sell the Dacia Spring here it would be cheaper and more practical. I can’t ever see this type of vehicle ever being more than a niche form of transport. The Citroen Ami electric sells well in France because their laws allow it to be driven by 14 year olds and people without licences (like those that have lost them through drink driving offences). Here, now that the government has dropped its ev grant they will go on sale for £7500, a lot more than the 6000€ they were sold for in France so I doubt other than in London that they’ll sell well here either, especially as they are left hand drive and limited to 28mph. What we need are the small Chinese cars that are cheap, can seat four people and do 60mph and 100 miles of range. They really would sell well given the current financial conditions.
It looks so much fun! I don‘t think it‘d be the right choice for my region, though, where we get to “enjoy” six months of winter, and luckily, quite a bit of rain still.
@@sergentcolon1 Hey you sour old naysayer, if your average speed is 11 that means you are doing something wrong both as an individual and as a country. Use more busses and trains.
@@sergentcolon1 The next gen vehicle is supposed to come in around $12k. This thing is a lot more responsive than the twizzy. And actually capable of beating people off the lights.
My parents drive a Arcimoto Fun Utility Vehicle in Medford Oregon and like it! It really is fun to ride around in. Takes a little getting used to driving.
Can you add metric conversions next time? For us folks who grew up using kph instead of mph, meters instead of feet or kilos over pounds, it’s a big help for us so we can relate.
If only there was a device where you could input numbers, then perform a calculation to come up with a different number. I imagine that would be really useful.
@@maxflight777 We looked at that several times. The majority resisted. Remember that though this is a UK channel, it is on a US website created with US intellectual property. And it will be years before any of these will be sold in the UK. The FUV uses metric fasteners.
@@popeyegordon let's not forget that if it wasn't for Brit at CERN in Europe, you wouldn't have the internet. But you can also bet that RU-vid is spread across the world in multiple different countries, on hardware produced in places not called America.
Lots of ticks with the design and capability. The price isn't crazy either, as that works out at under £15k. Good luck to them. I just wished the mainstream manufacturers were more attuned to this sort of sized vehicle. So many fat SUV with only one person in.
There are probably plenty of people that have bought electric cars for commuting, when this sort of thing would be much better for their pocket, the environment and congestion.
Brilliant little grocery getter. Definitely more stable than a Reliant Robin which had its trike wheels the wrong way round. Still wouldn’t go tearing around corners at 75 mph though. Welcome to sunny California Eilis. ☀️
Right solution, wrong price. $17K is too steep. That said it’s a unique proposition at the moment so probably price is adjusted to that and the initial low volume production. Overall: well done Reef and looking forward to competitors.
To honestly and properly summarize, the average price of a new car in the US in 2022 is $46,000!! Too steep my ass, the $18K price for the Arcimoto is a bargain where less is more. No more gas or oil changes, 80% cheaper insurance, same safety as any small car. No emissions.
@@moodtherapist Full disclosure - it is $17,900 now and all the talk about a $12K goal was from several years ago in 2019 dollars. The same value in 2024 will equal about $14K due to inflation.
I would like to invite you to look at a can am spyder. It sells pretty well and it starts at $18499 (without any extra). It uses gas and requires oil and transmission fluid change for maintenance. At $17900, a fuv is a steal 🤷♂️
We have a 2017 Fiat 500e, which is really superior to this in many ways. We bought it used for $10k. It has doors, a/c, heater. More luggage space that is enclosed so the dogs won’t fall out. Top speed of 88mph & is comfortable at that speed. 90 miles range. Super small & easy to park. Definitely appreciate the smallness when just running errands around town
I wish I had bought one before used cars got so expensive.Those were going for $17K, I hear the used car market has cooled a bit. I should check again soon.
Your Fiat costs you an average of $800 more per year for insurance than the Arcimoto. You have no warranty and more moving parts. You have to pay for gas and oil changes. You have two empty rear seats making the vehicle weigh far more than needed for most owners. The top speed of the Arcimoto is identical to your Fiat and it has 10 miles more range. The FUV can be bought with doors and a pet cage is easy to find. I have a locking trunk and the entire passenger section is a cargo hold for me. I enclosed it with cargo webbing.
@@popeyegordon Note that the 500e is electric, otherwise your comment is valid. Do you remove the rear seat in your Arcimoto for cargo? If so, how long does it take? I would like to be able to carry more cargo than the Arcimoto as shipped, but still have the option of a passenger seat if needed.
Would be a rubbish in the UK but it's pretty cool and I'd have one if it wasnt 17k and was actually available. Tbh i would rather have an electric bike.
Well relatively safe. I think if you flipped it, your head could hit the pavement and being T-boned or head on in that thing would be suboptimal for survival. Safer than a motorbike, less safe than a car.
100% agree, You brought us a huge smile. thanks for the fun. 👍👍👍👍 We love these companies that dare to standout from the masses like the lightweight Xbus, Aptera and this Arcimoto. (wonder how that holds up in rainy Netherlands) That is a good way to the future. Less material, less energy. Sad that is again a city car. Xbus will be a better alrounder with a usable range of 200 to 600 km (depends on the version with battery packs.), and with starting price of €18.500 a great bargain. We will wait for it to come out in 2023.
I rented an FUV from REEFdrive earlier this year and am very happy to see they're still around. Loved all the attention it got and will love to rent again when I'm back in LA
Love your video style & pace. Don't envy us... you Brits have Microlino, check it out. I would love to have Microlino come to the USA. Maybe you can do a video with Microlino.
Excellent video, thanks! I'm right there with ya, "Harley Davidson, the most effective machine at turning gas into noise without the side effect of horsepower." Or as some refer to them, "Hardley Ableson." 😁
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The roof area is quite narrow and small. Room for only 100 watts of solar which is not even enough to replace the built in loss of 1% of the battery charge every day due to internal parasitic drains. If there was also a flat trunk and hood area the math would be different but it is still a narrow vehicle with an intentionally small footprint.
How to make this thing perfect 1. Solar panels instead of the glass top To block sun so you don't always have to be wearing sun screen to ride this thing and get some charge 2. A slighty wider top that curves down so when it rains it still blocks you on the sides also That way you can keep it door free 3. Put removable door/panels on the rear seating so that when you don't have a passenger it can be a big ass storage section
1) This vehicle self discharges a full kilowatt hour daily while parked. That small roof does not have enough space for useful solar. The polycarbonate roof and windshield are UV filtering. Many owners decide to add limo tint to the roof and a tinted roof will be offered soon. 2) A wider roof would cause you to bump your head as you enter and exit. It has rain gutters. 3) I removed my rear seat and harness and foot mats which reduced weight by 65 pounds. I then used cargo webbing to enclose the rear area for piles of cargo. I also have the locking water tight trunk. You can buy the Deliverator version with considerable locked and dry cargo space.
@@popeyegordon 1. any solar is useful 2. And I've seen people ride it in the rain it definitely needs a lil more protection,rain doesn't solely come from above you wind moves it at an angle 3. That's cool,and I hope you're having a shit ton of fun with yours it's a cool vehicle I'm just saying lil things to add in a sequel
@@Jovanny_pcpp 1 debunked) no, 'any' solar is not useful when the charge rate needed is 20 times greater. And any solar will up the base price, discouraging more sales. 2 debunked) You can not see any riders in the rain on RU-vid videos who got wet. Those two videos praise the dry ride where a light rain geat is optional. You totally overlooked the fact that driving creates an air dam around the front of the vehicle. I stay bone dry in hard rain and as long as I am moving, a cross wind is not strong enough to get my elbows damp 3 debunked ) you are personally deciding you know a lot more about this vehicle you have never driven or owned than those who have. What bullshit.
Yeah the open sides is a deal breaker for me especially since thethe company’s m main head quarters is in Portland Oregon! It never stops raining here! And the price is way too high for an open vehicle like that! Other than those things i love it!
I hope Arcimoto is a big success but I think the lower they can keep the price the more likely the FUV is likely to replace the "second" vehicle in many households.
Guess it depends on your requirements but actually it would suit mine quite well. Much cooler and quicker than an Ami (which would probably also suit me) but it would be difficult to justify the extra price
Neat but niche I reckon. We have Paxster here, used throughout the country regardless of weather for mail. 🇳🇿. Paxster has better utility but urban performance only, and they fit on foot paths. Micro logistics electric vehicle.
The Paxter serves a different demand as a light slow delivery vehicle. In the US we have laws against using bike paths for motorized vehicles that can not be pedaled as well.
We have the extremes of the market covered now, but what about a compact, normal car with decent range and specs that can be considered within the "affordable" bracket by the masses? How has no one produced this yet?
and how was that NOT a priority from the first vehicles. Remote boot opening? Camping mode? Why? Get the basics, introduce the rest when the battery tech improves.
'Normal' 4 passenger cars are killing our biome. They are most often driven with one or two and an empty trunk on short trips, enter Arcimoto's more efficient design.
I think it would be great to have one, but not having doors just doesn't do it for me. Even the half door option - I need side windows man! It rains half the year!
Sales are brisk in rainy Oregon and Wasington. Watch the videos showing how dry we stay in rain. Not one single drop gets to me while I am driving. The pressure wave parts the rain.
It seems the video is giving you the wrong base price, it is $18K. To honestly and properly summarize, the average price of a new car in the US in 2022 is $46,000!! Too much my ass, the $18K price for the Arcimoto is a bargain where less is more. No more gas or oil changes, 80% cheaper insurance, same safety as any small car. Arcimoto does not owe KJW a vehicle produced below cost. Note how entitled he is.
@@popeyegordon That’s my point. I noticed there were many typos in my previous text. I was just inviting KWJ to look at a Can Am spyder which is a vehicle similar to a fuv but uses gas, needs oil change and CVT transmission fluid change. It starts at $18499 + and it sells pretty well. If you compare it to a fuv, $17900 for an electric car is a steal 🤷♂️
@@georgeschneider8778 Other trikes do not compare to the FUV. They have no crash cage or 6 point harness. You are trying to compare them but you are failing.
@@popeyegordon A can am spyder is the closest thing to a fuv in the market. Yes the fuv offers more features but it is delusional to compare a fuv to a $46000 new car. They don’t belong to the same category and they serve different purposes.
I swallowed a bug just watching. Great report as ever; amazing presenter. This woman could sell ice cubes to an Eskimo ... Wow right? How do pheromones transit the internet? I will never know. The EU and Britain should be jumping all over the Aptera. Take a trip and visit that next.
The "average" person isn't going to buy this $20K+ golf cart. They will buy a fully enclosed, climate controlled vehicle. But, people with money to burn who like to buy toys (snow mobiles, jet skis, ATVs, etc) "may" buy this. Don't forget, this vehicle isn't the only pony in the rodeo... there's a slew of companies manufacturing 3-wheeled EVs.
Target price after mass production is much lower. Golf carts don't go 75+ mph or have a 100 mile range . Which other companies are manufacturing and selling electric 3-wheelers in the US?
The average person is still uneducated in the urgency of a need to change to sustainable living. You are one of them. In addition to agreeing with what Matt said, I remind you the base price is $18K, not 20, for a vehicle that never needs gas or oil changes and gets a very low motorcycle insurance rate. Insurance alone is saving me $800USD every year. No other autocycle company has done as well as Arcimoto. Several went under before production and the closest rival has yet to ship a cintoe ole to a customer. You are in for a hard fall that drowns you in crow.
I know a three wheeler that sells pretty well. It is called a can am spyder. Unlike the fuv, it uses gas and oil and transmission fluid change for maintenance. It starts at $18499 ( base price without any extra features). At $17900, fuv is a steal🤷♂️
@@chrisbailey1966 No it does not. No panels available. But we stay dry in rain while moving. A wrap around windshield and roof with rain gutters is a dryer experiecnce than can be had with half a billion motorcycles and scooters.
Wheel "missing"?? HAHAHAHA!!! Arcimoto realised with one of its earlier prototypes that wheel steering was impractical for a light EV. Eliminating it lowered the vehicle weight by 240 pounds and the length by 16 inches! It is NOT "an effective hair dryer" because we are sheltered from the wind by a wrap around windshield and roof. Doors are optional but smart buyers realize doors are just a useless security blanket. I dont' know what an "Ami" is but I doubt it compares at all, based on the rest of your ignorant hateful comment. Less wheels = better. Superior. Greener. Lighter. Sustainable vs biome destruction.
The windscreen wiper dance was funny! Thanks for that creative clip. Reminded me of Utah Saints - Something Good '08. Maybe include a tiny clip of that music vid in next time you get to do a windscreen wiper dance!!
17,000$ for a glorified bike? Yeah no thanks mate, I'd rather get a used ioniq 1 for a few thousand more or an E-golf/Focus EV, Soul EV for around the same price.
You would be right if, and only if, this was in fact a 'glorified bike' which it is not. It is an autocycle with an innovative new design. All 4 wheeled cars weigh more, cost *FIVE TIMES AS MUCH TO INSURE* and are heavier, wasting more energy and taking longer to charge. 5000 advance deposts say you are clueless. Mine is a totally unique driving experience.
Could you not get a few comments from Arcimoto, on UK costs / possible availability. I'd think it would be £22-23K for the base or more and easier for them to stick to US sales?
No, not even remotely similar other than the three wheels. Arcimoto is a two seater. Carver battery capacity is one third as much, top speed is far lower, one passenger only, and not easily converted to utility versions with flat beds or cargo holds. Carver is considered a scooter or moped.
Electroheads - a new spammer account opened today has stolen your image and is promising a 'prize' to dozens of commenters here. I reported it and flagged many offenses but you need to act.
How to make an unimaginable amount of money out of this, AND make a difference: - dev the concept for swappable batteries - licence/franchise the battery charging to petrol station (possibly with a solar charging system) - franchise/licence the concept to known lable car manufacturers in order to scale up production of the delta-bike concept -EFFIN PROFIT Edit: now you have on hand the power of upscale
Not practical for a small startup considering how few owners want to abuse our resources to drive more than the battery range each day. Your idea is better for commercial fleets. The goal of Arcimoto is to DOWNSCALE transportation.
I'm close to their HQ and I really wish they'd put some doors on for all the rain we get here. Could maybe double or be replaceable with a sunshade of sorts too?
Sales are brisk in rainy Oregon and Wasington. Watch the videos showing how dry we stay in rain. Not one single drop gets to me while I am driving. The pressure wave parts the rain.
The roof area is quite narrow and small. Room for only 100 watts of solar which is not even enough to replace the built in loss of 1% of the battery charge every day due to internal parasitic drains. If the 'Dutch Solar' version costs less that is because it offers less. Does it have 80 mph top speed, crash cage and 6 point harnesses?
"Is this a viable mode of transport or is it something that maybe we should be leaving to the motorbikes?". There's not replacement for motorbikes, love. Get a road bike, get your knee down or get an ADV on the trails once and you'll know what I'm talking about. As for the Arcimoto FUV, just get a small hatchback. It almost has the same footprint, is safer and far more practical.
I am here to tell everyone reading this garbage from 'Sonny Dam' that he is full of crap and I will explain why in detail. After owning five motorcycles during my lifetime, and three ebikes, I can say with certainty that my FUV is a very safe and smart upgrade replacement for a motorcycle. All the joy, none of the extra danger and obnoxious noise. He is just plain LYING about a hatch back being comparable to the Arcinoto. Hatchbacks weigh 3 times as much, squander a tremendious amount of energy while being driven with, on average, one passenger and an empty trunk most of the time. Arcimoto's formula one racing safety system of a crash cage and 6 point harness makes it just as safe as any small car and its 3 flat tread car tires mean you have tremenduosly more traction on the road at all times, eliminating the constant threat of a wipeout on a motorcycle with its rounded tires. Any little gravel patch, oil slick or wet pavement means a motorcyclist can face plant at any time. I transcended that trap with my new autocycle and it is a joy to drive every time. No use for a helmet, no need for air bags. And I still get the very low motorcycle rate on my insurance. My power bill didn't even notice charging mine at home.
sorry, I forgot. Because I will be looking for a city commute type vehicle I have thought it out and one of the issues I thought about is “service/maintenance “ So I really don’t want to work on a “one-up” suspension if say a bushing goes out or linkage gets loose or alignment goes out etc let alone try to find someone to replace a brake or change out a tire…so, very important is having a NETWORK of dealers. This network is key to adoption and means everything to the manufacturer (sales network) and the buyer (purchase experience and service support repairs). please try to get this info when you talk to these innovators the engineers are terrible at business thinking!
You are not informed. Arcimoto only sells in states where they have first set up mobile service teams. Wonderful business thinking! My 3 year warranty means they come to my home for updates of software, any recalls or service needed. This is actually the ONLY practical way to market an EV nationally from a new company with no billion dollar's worth of service centers and dealers.
I am interested in the development of raised bike and EV ways around cities. They will act as through-roads for efficient transport that make their use safer, faster and generally more attractive. Users would be able to entirely avoid sharing busy roads with full sized vehicles. I appreciate the Arcimoto design for bridging the gap, so to speak, but I believe an ultra light, perhaps even folding version is all that would be needed on suitably designed raised trails.
High speeds don't mix with bike paths. But Arcimoto's new MLM is the ultimate ebike that is safe for trails and paths. It is a pipe dream to think there could ever be enough trails to avoid all car traffic. Only possible in carefully planned new communities. I used Seattle's fully integrated bike path system to communte, still needed to deal with side road traffic and some heavier traffic.
@@popeyegordonwhy so negative about something novel to you? As if I hadn't ever thought about any of those concerns? And it is almost literally a pipe dream! And conceived specifically to cheaply overlie existing cities. Bikes and scooters doing 25kph (say) in one section, bigger buggies and commuter trolleys doing 45kph (say) in another. Access points everywhere, from quiet suburban streets to CBDs and car parks in hubs etc. The point is to make UL options safe and fast across town by removing the need to conflict with existing heavy surface traffic.
@@hogey74 NOT THE LEAST BIT NOVEL TO ME!!! I was an ebike commuter on Seattle's elaborate trail system for a decade. I have been a corporate bike club president. I have been a corporate commute reduction representative. After all of that I still have the last ten years of ebiking in retirement before I bought my Arcimoto. YOU are some kind of space case who never bothered to learn about the existing state standards of class 1, 2 & 3 ebikes and where they may be used. "Raised trails" are a Disneyland pipe dream except where they took over existing rail trestles. Seattle's bike path system relies heavily on rail to trail conversions. No city can budget for such a gigantic undertaking as you fantasize about. You never bothered to think through the very steep and treacherous entry and exit ramps for such a system which wheelchairs and many bikes would struggle to use. The only raised trails in Seattle that were purpose built were to get trail users over and across freeway systems. Some actually needed elevators to access the required height. They were funded as part of the bus system's budget.
“You can’t fly a flag in the U.K. or you’ll be accused of something” Come on guys, you’re better than this. You know this is not true, and is just a lazy cliche trotted out by gammony boomers… We expect better from a channel that is generally progressive and forward-looking.
@@Electroheads Ahh, the old universal ‘get out of jail free’ card… ‘it was only a joke’. Look, you can do whatever you like in your content. I just think you’re better than that, that’s all 🤷♂️
@@themomentalist more like the old "say what I want you to say or you will be punished" card. Get out of what jail free? The prison that is your intellect?
