Everyone might have a slightly different approach to this that works for them, but having a "shortcut" system can make finding your favorite chord voicings SO much easier! Check out more on betterpiano.com/
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Learning piano has really opened my eyes to harmony. Playing guitar for years and being lazy with not learning the notes, my brain always melted when someone said “yeah, but this chord also works over this chord” ***Edit: opened my….. ears?***
nice! now take that knowledge back to guitar, it opens up a whole world of inversions and chords that only people who reach that level of understanding get to use
Thanks, Charles! This video is like a confirmation for something I had always suspected - that every fancy chord and voicing is really just a chord over another chord. Great work with the new channel for more intermediate piano nerds like us.
True! Although that one's even cooler because you just hold that sus chord and then run triads right up the keyboard! If you want to get SUPER nerdy, you could analyze what each triad does to change the functionality of that chord as you go 😂
Same here. Hoping that if I subscribe for a membership, there will be sections that can explain this a bit ssslower and clearer. It does look simple once I can get it through my thick skull.
Another nice thing about this way of thinking is you can take the upper structure chord in your right hand and use different inversions of it while keeping the left hand the same, now you have a hunch of ways of voicing the same chord without thinking too hard and without unbalancing the harmonic structure, since the foundational left hand part stays the same but the more "harmonically decorative" upper notes can change while keeping their own independent structure as an inverted triad/7th chord
I love piano shorthand like this! The more complicated chords have eluded me. I can figure them out theoretically, but need to be able to play them quickly. This is genius. Thank you so much!
This is a really useful way to think about chord shapes! In my experience as a pianist this method helps a ton in remembering and analyzing chords, and fuels creativity and exploration as well. I love your videos, I've pretty much watched all of them! Congrats on the new channel!
I've noticed the chord-over-chord pattern before, but I never thought to actually make a mental note of them for easy transposition. Looking forward to what this new channel will bring!
I think having the most ways to think about a concept is beneficial for growth. I also think of chords as scales, and voicings as limiters to melodic options. I love to hear another perspective greatly communicated on such an important concept, thank you :)
I didn't realize you were doing this, and I've been wanting to learn piano for a while. Will definitely be checking out your website and course when my schedule frees up here soon!
Even if you just start with this channel, I'm planning on doing a TON to help! So, get after it! Then, if you make it over to the new community eventually, awesome!! But I'm just glad you're here, first and foremost.
Not only did I enjoy this a lot, but more importantly it's *immediately* helpful to me and will directly impact the way I approach chords from now on! Thank you for this! If we could get more of these, maybe cover the way you think about the most essential chord relationships (a few that are used the most, or the most interesting ones) and see how it's received by the community? Really enjoying the content on this channel so far :)
Thank you so much Charles, these are little tricks I use all the time, so great - and man, can I just say that I've been loving your content since I started watching your videos as a bassist in 2020 and have been a real inspiration for me to start playing the piano, thank you so much sir ❤
I can't tell you how much I appreciate this, for real. It's so easy to feel like I'm making content and just sending it out into the abyss. It's just the nature of everyone being behind a screen. So hearing this means a ton, thank you! Just getting started 🤜
Would LOVE to hear how this can be applied to guitar! Guitar chord voicings are so fascinating to me. They sound so different to piano voicings because of obvious physical differences in the instrument, but it makes for some REALLY beautiful voicings! Playing guitar voicings on piano is always a neat tool to try new sounds.
It’s my go-to for changing keys; its a great leading chord and its crunchy enough that you can jump to it from basically anywhere! headed to F? Play BbM7/C! “But I’m in the key of B major!” No problem! 🙌🙌
This is the way I largely conceptualized chords when I was younger. Eventually, I dropped the whole idea of chords as a whole in favor of intervals since thinking in terms of closed voice triads and sevenths is very limiting. That sus13 chord to me is conceptualized as a large stack of fifths all played over the third fifth in the series. Bb, F, C, G, D, A all over a C bass. When you think of them each as pairs like this and account for their inversions (perfect fourths), you can intuitively open or close voicings at will. So if I wanted to open that chord up, I'd immediately recognize that two fifths can be stacked to make C, G, and D. The next fifth A can be inverted and played next to the G leaving only the Bb and F to be played by the right hand in whatever configuration i want. If I wanted an A on top, I could go Bb, F, A to complete the chord which could be thought of as the outline of a Bb maj7, but then if I wanted to put a C on top by playing F, Bb, C you would have to reconceptualize it as an Fsus4 which is a much bigger departute than Bb and F plus one other note.
I’d like to see a video on creating more complex chord progressions than triads in the key of C like every other video. Use an uncommon key like Ab minor. Go beyond 1-4-5 and ii-V-I. Also harmonic rhythm!
It's cool how you can make modal sounds by using pentatonics that borrow from other scales (Like a D major pentatonic over a Cmaj7 or something to make it sound lydian). I think McCoy Tyner liked to do that a lot if I'm correct. Kinda the same idea as this video. Would also like to know if you've got a system on how to finger pentatonics. If you've got the definitively least stupid way to do this in all 12 keys you would be a magical beacon of hope to lost and confused pianists such as myself. Sincerely, a lost and confused pianist
I make my pedal point left hand with a mandatory dominant 7, and if i were to play chords like; #9 #11 i do 1-5 and b7 in left hand, in the right i play the 3rd note minor or in chord context, key of C, the dominant is V, Bbm/G7. In b9b13 i do the same 1-5-b7 in LH, and #1minor in right, in same key and context, Abm/G.
my favorite chord within chord is play any 7 chord in your left hand and branching from the note thats a semitone down from the 7 you play a sus4 chord…really pretty :)
Great idea! Could also be looked at as C7 UNDER Dm (omitting the 3 in C7). Since we use the concept of OVER as in C7 OVER Bb why not introduce the concept of UNDER as well? I suggest the notation C7!2m for the concept.
I prefer to analyze that C7sus4 (9, 11, 13) as Gm9/C (easy, too), which makes more sense in terms of its function (iim7 over V) and also for improvisation. On a chart, I like to see G-9/C, not BbMaj7/C.
when you know something but don't know you know it the entire dang time. wild. Amazing you your brain 'locks onto' a concept. I'm in the key of C, I must play C chords, never had my brain said 'oh hey those notes you added are x' Neat.
I'm actually not sure if this is necessarily a "rule" of music theory, but it's the practical application of everything I've ever played in jazz literally ever. Like, it's the easiest to explain and just assume to be true. If you operate by the rule, you'll always be playing the "correct" sound! I guess in a way, it just means that if there's MEANT to be a different alteration, then the chord symbol will specify that.
You see.. You've always kind of reminded me of Jay Metcalf. You know, Better Sax and Better Trax. When I saw Better Piano, I thought it was another one of Jay's channels, but with an arbitrary switch of focus from Saxophone and Jazz to Piano and.. Jazz?
More or less! Except, diving into that goes much much deeper and gets far more complicated. I thought we'd wait a bit before we dive into C over B as stacked triads 😂
I do the same. For almost 30yrs. Thought I was cheating, cause my Music Education major focused more on the functional harmony pre-20th century, and I needed a way to hang in jazz combos and rock bands (cause you rhythm section guys learn this in your instrument instruction).
Rookie Question- why do you use Bb in a C Major scale? Why flat the 7th? Is that a normal thing to do? Otherwise, rookie me is expecting C Maj to be all the white keys. I learn the scales,,, and then make changes to that pattern..?.. Lots to learn about music. Thanks in advance to whomever has the answer.
Question: Could you also think of this chord as a 2 chord over a major 7 sus4, assuming both chords are in the same key? Using that idea, the first chord at 1:23 would be D-minor over C7-sus4. D-minor is the 2 chord for C. Also, at 7:37, could that be considered a F7 flat 4?
Yes! And that's the fun of creating your own ways to think about these things- There isn't one way to do it and it just comes down whatever makes the most sense for you! If it makes it quicker and easier to find the voicings you want to play, then it's the right approach.
Going down a level, one of the biggest revelations I had was realising major and minor chords are composed of major and minor intervals, and then going more granular that these intervals themselves are present as harmonics in single notes!
@@wangtao5380 The harmonic series is a set of frequencies that are potentially sounding on top (and the sub harmonic below) of the fundamental note (prominent frequency or note you hear when you play a pitch on an instrument) of a given string, tine, or horn. The first harmonic above the fundamental is the octave, followed by a 12th (perfect 5th) and then a 15th (octave) and then a major 17th (major 3rd), then a 19th (5th again) followed by an out of tune minor 21st (minor 7th). The series continues on, but the audibility (and relation to the major triad) of each harmonic diminishes with each step above the fundamental if coming from a natrual source. The primary harmonics in the series contain the notes of the major triad, so if a source is harmonically rich enough, you can actually hear a major chord by playing one note. This is easiest done with a Hammond style drawbar organ, in which you can manually control the amount of each harmonic with the drawbar, allowing you to get unnatural levels of harmonic content in one note. So, the major chord is kind of a product of the universe (or probably just good mathematical relationships in terms of frequency ratio - 4:5:6)
I understand the first part of what u say here - I think in this way also - I too would be interested in what you mean in the second part 'granular' etc..?
It's funny how the experienced musicians are so used to finding chords the traditional way, while this seems pretty common to people like me who take shortcuts because our brains are slow and dumb
See, I mentioned to someone else that I wasn't sure if this is necessarily a "rule" in music theory. For me, it's just something that's always been the easiest way to think about it, because it'll always yield the "correct" result. Another way to look at it is, you can assume every upper extension note is "in there," and if the chord requires an alteration to any specific one, it'll specify that. At least, that's how I've always thought about and applied it! Another way I think about it is, the chord should be able to be completed into a full scale. So, unless the chord symbol tells me which notes to use to complete that full scale, I'm going to make assumptions about what it wants. If I saw C13, I'm probably going to assume Mixolydian for both line playing/improvising and voicings, because it didn't tell me to do anything specific with the 11th or the 9th. If I play Lydian dominant over that C13, then I'm technically turning the chord into a C13#11, you know? Sorry for the long explanation, I'm kind of thinking out loud, too 😂I'm sure others think of it differently!
C13 is commonly C, E, G, Bb, D, F, A in my universe. The dominant 7, 9 and 11 hitch a ride. I see guitarists using C7(add 13) or just C7(13) if they want a C7 with an A on top and I like that clarity. Lately there's this cheeky new way of writing it, thinking of the 13 as equivalent to the 6: C7/6. But my brain wants the A on the bottom if I see that, whereas if I see C7(13) I know it's the C7 with the A on top. Finally C7(add 6) is for me the clustered C,E,G,A,Bb.
This seems like a lesson that would’ve happened years ago. Surprised just getting to it. There’s a ton of these.. just sit at the piano and find them. It’s so much better imo to discover things for yourself. I’ve taught myself enough to create a ton of tutorials, but then i’d be a hypocrite telling others it’s best to figure it out on their own. There’s something about seeing “tricks” like this spoon fed that strikes me as removing the essential joy of discovery we’re all capable of, and I fear AI is removing this joy and will increasingly remove so many creative joys from humans both on an individual level and on a cultural level that we’ve not yet really grasped. It’s not a good trend imo. I wish everyone would value discovering things on their own more, and return to self-teaching.
This is out of my pay grade, and I'll keep practicing my triads until I have more chops. I made the mistake of trying to understand this early on, and no one likes to listen to a crappy jazz pianist.