Thomas Apologizes ... And Then Things Go Downhill - Bachelor in Paradise 

EXACTLY.

Yes!!! And also, Serena changed what Thomas said ever so slightly, then Tahzjuan changed what Serena said, and they both acted like they had the truth when neither were the primary source. It was a game of telephone with high school drama and Tre was kind of proving himself to be emotionally immature directly after that. Also, Tre outright admitted on the men tell all that he did not handle situations perfectly and should’ve stayed out of the drama more often, and that he was at fault too for participating in all of that crap from Katie’s season, but then he refused to give Thomas an apology for his part in things. And then he had the nerve to say he was the one that kept trying with Thomas and kept giving him chances??? Makes no sense. He has not once tried with Thomas (at least that we’ve seen). But it just screams emotionally immature to refuse to hear out Thomas and refused to think about the game of telephone that went on when he knew exactly what happens on this show and knew that he was hearing things from an unreliable source who literally was not there and didn’t actually know what happened. He jumped to conclusions again in order to create more drama and be rude to Thomas, and honestly, it is Tre who owes Thomas an apology at this point for how he’s behaved. The irony is Thomas didn’t even call Tre emotionally immature, but Tre proved himself to be so in the following interaction. This show makes me angry sometimes ngl

Trey really weak as fuck

Aaron is gonna hopefully put Thomas in check

First if a girl went out with your uncle that should be a red flag second he sees she's upset she wasn't picked for a date by another guy n then he pulls her to the side and boom he's the one who isn't clear Abt his feelings when he should have asked her what's up with your behavior earlier that's weak asf

That's not sensitivity. They're being a bunch of peacocking, narcissistic emotionally unintelligent and immature bullies with toxic masculinity and a fragile ego that leads to them being easily irritated and having no self control and regulation of their emotions. They're rude, jealous, insecure, very immature and so not ready for a relationship. And Tre literally proves Thomas's point by acting like the other boys. Cause these are boys, not men. It's a big turn off how they're acting towards him, attacking him for no reason and isolating him and creating a situation out of nothing. They feel so threatened! It's PATHETIC. They should go back to school cause they clearly learned nothing and are still little kids. And the women this season prove they're immature as well and a bunch of "pick mes" and that they have no critical thinking skills whatsoever. Serena added fuel to the fire and created a situation out of thin air, cause she was influenced by the stupid things the boys said about Thomas. It shows the women can't read the room nor are good judges of character. So the boys and the girls deserve eachother to be honest and I live for the fact that Thomas will eventually be in a couple with Becca and will mind his own business, as he does anyway, as opposed to the others. Which means that there will be at least SOME kind of normalcy and common sense in this hormonal kid's daycare, called Bachelor in paradise! I'm more interested to watch Thomas's BIP journey, perfect or not, than anyone else's, at this point.

@@f.t.6764 100% agree with you. If I could give one comment a million likes, it would be yours. Just absolutely spot on. Thank god someone said it.

Yes.... Aaron especially always bugged me.

You're are absolutely right...

Dare I say "emotionally not that strong"?

The irony is Thomas never actually called Tre emotionally immature though 😭😭😂

@@annahayden The only person that called Tre emotionally immature is Tre

@@speedude0164 LOL so true

@@annahayden I know, crazy eh. I'm just using the term since everyone else is so stuck on it! they're all so slimy it seems; a bunch of toddlers running around making out 🤣

I don't know if you've ever been lied to repeatedly by someone before. But, at a certain point, their words stop meaning anything.

I agree it’s infuriating after a while Thomas just needs to say fuck them all because apologizing and trying to be the bigger person isn’t going to be what anyone wants from him anyway!

Seems like all of the men are jealous of a genuine and honest sexy man IMO 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yeah, ok Thomas did what he did in the Bachelorette season and now they are going to check out on him again. He apologised for the wrongs he did. They should have just told him not to try it again on the beach. He looked like he had fallen for Bekka, so wish them the best.

People love drama. They think that maturity & rationality are boring

@@j.i.r608 yess ! 100% agree , but I’m looking forward to Michelle’s season, she seems like she she will bring something new to the bachelorette franchise, like actually trying to find love. Hopefully the men don’t mess it up 😓

Thomas did not do anything bad on the first show!

@@biblicalgodisonlytruegod yes he did. He interrupted someone else's private session.

Ehh. When someone lies though, sometimes it doesn't matter what they say.

Good thing it was taped...Tre will see for himself and he will realize how stupid he was to act like that

Eh it was a bit more than “emotionally immature”-and regardless, that’s essentially what the message he got was. I think he’d be just as pissed either way. Also, we didn’t see every part of Thomas and Serena P’s conversation…don’t think she would have made up that Thomas said he’s been through stuff in his past etc if he didn’t. Don’t think tre looks stupid at all

@@Hmy8799 she would have because they had already talked about him and how bad of a person he was... I give both of them benefit of doubt

@@Hmy8799 didn't the guys said a million things about Thomas

@@milwaukeemotor5995 exactly and he hasn't thrown any tantrums like they have... I really don't like most of these guys they are behaving so immaturely...just find love and go home

Dave Neal has great perspectives on situations! But if Thomas is truly trying to make amends he really should not be talking about them behind their backs. Tre I think was just over it. Walking away was very mature to me. He said his peace and and left not wanting the bad drama to ruin his time in Paradise.

@@janina8559 how was that mature 😂😂 he straight up KNEW he was hearing an inaccurate version of events from an unreliable source who wasn’t even there. He knew that and still refused to let Thomas speak. He straight up confronted him like that, raised his voice, cut off Thomas and refused to allow him to speak, and then stormed off. That is such an incredibly immature thing to do. It’s like kids throwing tantrums over a game of telephone with petty drama.

Thomas probably shouldn't have said that about Tre, but to be fair he's in a very difficult position right now because of him and others. The guys were constantly making him out to be the manipulative spawn of Satan and spending all their time telling the other women how bad he is, all over stuff that really isn't that big of a deal, to the point where it was affecting his date. So it's pretty understandable for him to look at them as being "emotionally not strong". And when you're trying to defend yourself against people talking that badly about you, that sort of thing is bound to come out, especially with Thomas's track record of not always choosing the best things to say.

She is very young at 23 basically, your like just a few years out of high school . Loose Lips

@@emilyc5625 My question WHY does Joe want her? She seems quite a big young for him.

They want to spend every second of their time talking about Thomas, but I don't think I saw a single confessional from either Aaron or Tre talking about Victoria P, and it was their friend who was impacted by her the most. Funny how that works.

😂😂😂

Of course they are quite envious of his looks and height. Tre is a shortie. I agree Taj should not have said anything - whew talk about messy!

Extremely

Yeah, I realized that too. She's messy and I don't like her.

Cause she has two braincells in total and is equally immature as the boys. Serena is as well. Cause she literally gave a negative connotation to the comment Thomas made and added fuel to the fire by creating a situation out of nothing, exactly like the boys are doing. Both the guys and the girls show how immature they are this season. At this point I wanna watch just for Thomas ans Becca. Not interested in anyone else. They're not worth the watch. It's DISGUSTING watching a bunch of insecure and narcissistic boys with toxic masculinity and that much of a fragile ego to the point of isolating a person and attacking him just because they feel threatened. They're delusional and hurtful. It's such a turn off. They prove how emotionally immature they are and that they're not ready for a relationship at all. I would be interested in watching Joe as well, but his "it reminds me of Kendal" constant comparison with things and with Serena, along with the fact that he's with Serena, who's immature like the rest of them and who's actions show her age indeed, has me disinterested in his journey to be honest.

@@f.t.6764 Serena is NOT immature. She was explaining what Tomas told her on her date to the group. Him mentioning Tre at all was overstepping and proves he is the one who’s immature. I hope he finds the redemption he’s looking for. 🤷‍♂️

Serena says she doesn't like messy but she seems messy her and Taj

@@jacobmorgan144 nah, _Serena_ was the one who asked Thomas about the history with the guys and said she wanted the full story. She asked for context too. He provided what she asked for, didn’t say anything bad about Tre, and then she went to the rest of the group, misrepresented Thomas’ words, and pretended like he brought it up out of no where when in reality _she_ brought it up and asked _him_. She was definitely not in the right by fueling the fire like that and starting a game of telephone by misrepresenting his words. I’d like to give her the benefit of the doubt and not say she straight up lied, but at the very least, it was not a mature or okay thing to do what she did.

Mob mentality. Disgusting.

Did we forget that Thomas admitted to lying to them?

By expressing her feelings that she didn’t like the way he was talking about Tre? It was condescending. I’m totally on Thomas side, but Serene did nothing wrong.

They recognize that he’s the most handsome on the show and immediately feel threatened especially since it’s “girl week”

@@thequeen3834 That is what made me glad that Andrew decided to not get involved in all their mess.

I actually think it's editing.

What? Are you Tre or Tre sister?

@@evangelinenosike5528 I think you missed my sarcasm

Same.

unless Becca pops-in soon, which one of the current girls here are giving him a rose to keep him there, hilarious? Is Connor getting a rose elsewhere?

@@lucbordage7291 he’s definitely going to get involved with Tammy who probably pursues him which makes Aaron angry and why he loses it at him I think but maybe Demi might give the rose cause I don’t see her and James working out lol

@@thatgirl9532 Demi, and also the previews for next week are keeping us guessing for sure. Hilarious season so far. The Katie dudes are funny, and with Thomas now, it is the Katie season all over again.

I think Thomas was so nice to her & he really tried to explain the situation with the guys

Shes immature, dont get the hype over her

If she was explaining why she was not interested in being in a relationship with Thomas and that moment was the main reason she got turned off I get why she explained that to them. Everyone else are the ones that escalated it unfortunately

EXACTLY THIS!

I personally think he's edited favorably, because he has a love story coming up. Both in the bachelorette and here (this was taped before his controversial episode aired). They didn't show most of what is being talked about. The reason why the public likes him is because that's what the editors are showing us.

THIS! 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀

Why ?? why tell everyone what was said to you privately? Low integrity

By chasing a 23 year old woman who lives in Canada when his issue with Kendall was the long distance thing and she lives in the states? His brain isn't leading these decisions tbh.

I hope Michelle has a good & watchable season because 2020&2021 so far is brutallity on networkTV from this franchise.

@@lucbordage7291 after what she went through her season, I hope she nips it in the buds from the jump cuz that took over Katie's season

AGREED!

watch they’re (mainly aaron) gonna ruin other relationships he tries to pursue bc they can’t just mind their own damn business

i think he did so because the guys are trying to ruin his reputation, when he's trying to have a fresh start

Exactly, these boys care too much about Thomas and eachother instead of focusing on the women and their connections. For a bunch of guys claiming to be straight they sure display some homoerotic behaviour.

@@milwaukeemotor5995 yeap, a bunch of bullies, that's what they are.

I'm very disappointed that Thomas apologized to all there stupid teenagers

exactly i agree. i cannot stand aaron

Didn’t watch his season but he seems so freaking kind-or maybe it just stands out in this environment…he was the only one who was talking so kindly and being so forgiving toward Thomas before he learned he’d just called him emotionally immature. For males or females, one of the lowest blows is to hear that you’re being called emotionally immature (or something along those lines) behind your back. Not just a blow to the ego but probably the thing that would just make you feel the shittiest about yourself. And it’s embarrass

He does. He doesn't process the information he's given. Just goes with what he heard

Yeahseems like Thomas read on him was accurate actually lol

Not Tre anymore

They ARE spineless wimps. They have provided ZERO argument as to why Thomas is sketchy. They are jealous bullies, cause Thomas has the looks, personality AND the money from what I read from other comments. He's successful financially so triple threat to their fragile little ego and zero personalities. All the other guys, with only a few exceptions, have to offer is abs, arms and just seggsual chemistry. Literally, that's all. They have the charisma of a thumb in comparison to Thomas, who's not even my type but truth must be told. He's objectively a package for many women who care about those things in a superficial level, but the men don't realise that these things don't keep a woman in the long run, you have to have actual chemistry and be emotionally reliable. So they are insecure for no actual reason in reality. They're insecure and deem him a threat for the wrong reasons, through their heteronormative and "bro" criteria. Thomas is a package mostly, cause he seems like a person that's in tune with his emotions and likes to talk and has some common sense. Which is refreshing in men and is actually the bare minimum. These manchildren lack these things this season. But I find that most of the women match the guys energy cause, they're also immature little girls. So if the boys realised that, they wouldn't even see him as a threat. But they're so insecure and care so much more about what the other men are doing that they end up being delusional bullies. So for guys who claim to be straight, they sure act gay🥴. In short, Thomas has nothing to redeem himself for. He did nothing wrong, as opposed to these children. They should feel embarrassed with themselves and how wrongfully they're treating him. They're actively making his time shxt in BIP and have no remorse about it, as long as it strokes their fragile masculinity they're ok with treating another human being like dirt. Quite despicable actually.

@@f.t.6764 I can totally agree with this.

You have a good point! Although I find everyone that dislikes him so far its all surface level. It feels so high school..

I feel like there is stuff on the editing floor. I don't know that Thomas is all that bad. But, he did say that he lied to them, when apologizing. And the producers didn't show us what he said to Trey on Katie's season, leaving us all confused. I kind of think he's getting a good edit and there is some truth to what the men are saying (even though they aren't going about it in the right way.).

I still don’t trust Thomas.

rule: always confront the person directly about what they said, not he said/she said

Projecting much?

No. Tre is an immature teenager