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Thomas Jefferson vs. Teddy Roosevelt (Founders vs. Progressives) 

Tom Richey
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In this lecture, I compare Thomas Jefferson's views about government to those of the Progressives, led by Teddy Roosevelt in the early twentieth century. Thomas Jefferson, one of our most notable Founding Fathers, had a firm belief in limited government as a necessity for a free society. Teddy Roosevelt, his neighbor on Mount Rushmore, had a more expansive view of government that he believed was more appropriate for solving the problems of an increasingly urbanized and industrialized society.
Both of these philosophies about government continue to be present in American political thought. How much do YOU trust government?

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@HoyesPoi
@HoyesPoi 5 лет назад
"let's inspect that meat" - Tom Richey, 2019
@MalaysianChopsticks
@MalaysianChopsticks 5 лет назад
Taco Wizard It’ll get a D on it.
@HeyImLucious
@HeyImLucious 5 лет назад
"trust" and "government" being used in the same sentence. Funny joke
@Fernando-iy3fg
@Fernando-iy3fg 3 года назад
It's alright if there is a "don't" in front of those words
@HounmanBT
@HounmanBT 5 лет назад
Jeffersonian philosophy is attractive in its idealism, and the best way to bolster freedom during a society's implementation. Roosevelt's philosophy is eventually necessary to preserve that original premise of freedom, when the scale of the market grows to foster monopolies which thwart competition, and turn the concept of the free-market into a fallacy. The free-market cannot truly be free, it must be subject to some level of regulation to keep it even enough to be "free". A bit of an oversimplification there, but that's the basic truth. Anyway, they were two of our greatest presidents, who embodied equally important, contrasting elements to what would constitute a good society.
@thetruth8956
@thetruth8956 4 года назад
There's no such things as a private monopoly. Monopolies by defintion are either government entities themselves or created by government. A free market means by defintion, everyone has access to the market and everyone has the right of opening a business and competing with other companies. If people voluntarily opt to do business with a single highly efficient company, that's a choice. But the fact they have have muliple options means it's not a monopoly.
@thewildcardperson
@thewildcardperson 3 года назад
@@thetruth8956 not always true agree or not amazon banning parlor and by extension taking away the right of speech from millions show corporations need to be killed
@jebthegodemperor7301
@jebthegodemperor7301 3 года назад
@@thetruth8956 What if that company is able to use its power to prevent other companies from threatening its dominant position, through means outside of just providing a better product? (i.e. a self perpetuating monopoly)
@yasinwissin7075
@yasinwissin7075 Год назад
​@@jebthegodemperor7301 That's called government
@theatlantinlegate736
@theatlantinlegate736 5 лет назад
This was a fantastic video, and I’m glad you spoke with me in the live chat about Reagan’s disarming of americans, specifically the black panthers
@CharlesDickens111
@CharlesDickens111 5 лет назад
One look at the results of the welfare state should answer the questions people have about government's efficacy in solving problems.
@jimgross1464
@jimgross1464 5 лет назад
Ah yes, the welfare state and those parasitic welfare queens... Like Walmart and Amazon. Why is it that people blame the poor, when the poor have no political power at all?
@CharlesDickens111
@CharlesDickens111 5 лет назад
@@jimgross1464 the system keeps them poor.
@jimgross1464
@jimgross1464 5 лет назад
@Mário Botelho 60 Fortune 500 companies avoided all federal income taxes in 2018, including Netflix and Amazon, on 79 billion in profit, and actually got 4.3 billion from the government in rebates.
@jimgross1464
@jimgross1464 5 лет назад
@@CharlesDickens111 how exactly does the welfare system keep them poor? You do know that the economy doesn't magically create enough well paying jobs, or even jobs in general, for everyone?
@jimgross1464
@jimgross1464 5 лет назад
@Mário Botelho can you show me your proof of this, and also, here's some info you might find interesting- equitablegrowth.org/the-distribution-of-wealth-in-the-united-states-and-implications-for-a-net-worth-tax/ Also, this video was made almost decade ago, so it's gotten much worse- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QPKKQnijnsM.html
@micahisaac
@micahisaac 5 лет назад
Classical Liberal here. Can’t enforce morality without violence.
@schpyy
@schpyy 5 лет назад
A shame you have to call it Classical Lieral, as the modern left in reality is not even close to liberal except maybe on some social policies.
@jimgross1464
@jimgross1464 5 лет назад
Well then, I hope that means you're not a republican. All that enforcement of "Christian morality" tends to lead to the destruction of many lives.
@JtheCritic
@JtheCritic 5 лет назад
Hello, I'm a left winger and I'd like to ask if you have a discord, could join my new discord, or if you have a different social media account that I could speak with you about politics and economics?
@GameBoi36
@GameBoi36 5 лет назад
@@jimgross1464 Lol sure bud.
@Mancorl
@Mancorl 5 лет назад
from what i know of my countrys history (norway) big government leads to forced sterilization taking kids away from their parents for little to no reason (such as potential for future violence). raising kids in public institutions which makes them drug addicts and sellers, constant breaches of the constitution starting with something called konstitusjonell sedvanerett and ending in us giving control of our energy and other sectors to the eu (which we voted against joining twice!) all in the name of what is good. so in my experience big government bad
@FlyOverZone
@FlyOverZone 2 года назад
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The natural progression of any form of government is toward corruption and tyranny
@cowanthegreat8966
@cowanthegreat8966 2 года назад
Jefferson for the win. Roosevelt is totally on the wrong side.
@johnmccormick8159
@johnmccormick8159 5 лет назад
How very timely. I love these table-based summarizations.
@brandonf24
@brandonf24 3 года назад
Reagan had a contextually late 20th century suspicion of government. Jefferson had an enlightenment, late 18th and early 19th century suspicion of government after having actually lived under a different form of government altogether. They are NOT synonymous...the latter was a savant. Likewise, one was a fundamentalist and the other was often chastised by the tartuffes and parochial society of his day. In conjecture, I'd wager Jefferson would question and challenge the Patrician Republic of the American Confederacy against his agrarian utopia, and who knows what he would think of the ideologies and crises of the mid-19th century to the Cold War. I'm sure he'd also point out the consequences of heavy industry, agribusiness vs the individual farmer, and the squalor of the metropolises of our time. He'd also harbor some colonial preconceived prejudices as the norm of his contextual time and marvel at how the modern world is connected.
@sabrmagician
@sabrmagician 5 лет назад
Laissez faire doesnt get you equality of opportunity
@mumhustler
@mumhustler 3 года назад
it does from initial conditions also it gives you non interference - which is what libertarians/classical liberals want
@schpyy
@schpyy 5 лет назад
I'm definetly a small government guy, Austrian School of Economics. Don't intervene as it creates wierd incentives and missalocates resources and capital where it should not be. Would be a great topic for a video, government involment in monetary policy, banking, business, subsidies and regulations in general.
@jimgross1464
@jimgross1464 5 лет назад
I have a question about the distribution of resources- what is your opinion on our ridiculous wealth inequality, along with mass unnecessary starvation, homelessness, poverty, lack of healthcare, and other pointless miseries?
@JtheCritic
@JtheCritic 5 лет назад
Hello, I'm a left winger and I'd like to ask if you have a discord, could join my new discord, or if you have a different social media account that I could speak with you about politics and economics?
@schpyy
@schpyy 5 лет назад
I am not a teacher or anything, but if you are interested in lectures there is have a nice youtube channel called misesmedia and covers most topics they learn at the Mises Institute having to do with the economy. It's not boring as some may think
@JtheCritic
@JtheCritic 5 лет назад
@@schpyy are you talking to me or the Jim Gross guy?
@schpyy
@schpyy 5 лет назад
For both if you are interested
@BD-zx8ji
@BD-zx8ji 5 лет назад
Can we get a Jean-Jacques Russo verses Kipling? Nobel savage against un corrupt paradise type of video??
@Hedgehog-ji1bm
@Hedgehog-ji1bm 4 года назад
Please do John Adams vs Alexander Hamilton
@natiwati7878
@natiwati7878 4 года назад
.... He never gon’ be president now...
@brettwentz3107
@brettwentz3107 4 года назад
I don’t trust government. The proper role of government is to protect right and provide equal things.
@HK_roller_delayed
@HK_roller_delayed 4 года назад
How much do I trust government? Far less than an Email from a Nigerian prince...
@LichenMason313
@LichenMason313 Год назад
Thanks for the clear and concise presentation, I appreciate it being under 10 minutes yet helped me understand United States a lot better than before. The following are some aspirations: United States liberated itself from many European foundations, especially religious institutions, and had the advantage of expanding its power of industrial production. But a society can't simply be productive for productive sake; it needs some kind of common value for both self-regulating and moving forward. Without the church institutions having a monopoly on standards of common values like in some European regions, the maintenance and formation of common values were up to either "what people already carry with them", or "The Government promotes some value more focused to answer the need of order". Jeffersonian political tendency could be viewed as respecting "what people already carry with them" and make the best out of them, whereas Roosevelt's political tendency could be viewed as "The government put some extra work since society is changing rapidly and darker side of human nature also grew rapidly". As the video had pointed out, the two tendencies were for quite different conditions of societies with different demographics. I would view both presidents had at least, reasonable and relatively good intentions in their thoughts based on their situations. But both lacked foresight. Jefferson and his contemporaries underestimated the speed of expansion post industrialization also accelerated the expansion of human flaws. But Roosevelt's view also lacked foresight, since the government was made of flawed people, expanding a government's power was merely relocating the expansion of human flaws from private sectors to government public sectors. I believe there is a middle way. In term of law and order, I believe Jeffersonian tendency, which was to limit government's power, would be more beneficial; because once a government becomes too busy making laws and orders, it's difficult to stop it from over-doing things. But in term of forming a common value that maintains social order during expansion, the Roosevelt tendency of actively promoting values through government's power, is more reasonable. Leaving millions of people of different origins all to their own devices and expecting minimal government inputs can still result some natural equilibrium is fantastical. However, the government's promotion of common value is preferably not done through legalistic means. As the Prohibition showed, if people did not freely internalize a moral value like stop drinking Alcohol, but being forced to stop only due to external laws, they would be eager to break the laws secrectly anyways. Legal means are last resorts; it's best that people are convinced of a value and make decisions by their own will. People should own their choices as much as possible, not the government owning their choices.
@richardroyster405
@richardroyster405 5 лет назад
Very nice summary. BTW, I was recommending your videos to a student the other day and she was already watching them! Jefferson = such a southerner. Roosevelt = such a northerner.
@johnweber4577
@johnweber4577 3 года назад
Alexander Hamilton: Classical Conservative Thomas Jefferson: Classical Liberal Theodore Roosevelt: Progressive Conservative Woodrow Wilson: Progressive Liberal
@xernue
@xernue 5 лет назад
uwu
@freedomwatch3991
@freedomwatch3991 5 лет назад
Been ages since I watched your videos. Subscribed now.
@masfuentes8541
@masfuentes8541 5 лет назад
I guess if each one of us is to act the government, can we trust each other to do the right thing for the just cause, as progressives...but we need the governing force of government to curb us all.
@purpledurple621
@purpledurple621 5 лет назад
Where you think Jeffersonian thought is going with the Republican party going nationalist populism and Trump
@jbweld6193
@jbweld6193 5 лет назад
I think there wasn't much need to stoke nationalism for the first 60 odd years or so after the revolutionary war. They were pretty hardcore nationalists at that point.
@xXDannyThePunisherXx
@xXDannyThePunisherXx 5 лет назад
"Lazey faire" 🤘🤘🤘
@TEATERxIII
@TEATERxIII 4 года назад
Teddy, the goat
@marcocardamone8347
@marcocardamone8347 5 лет назад
Imagine trusting a government to correct morals
@JtheCritic
@JtheCritic 5 лет назад
The US government has always done that- from protecting slavery to Republicans fighting against civil rights in the late 1900s to now.
@marcocardamone8347
@marcocardamone8347 5 лет назад
J The Critic aren’t you enlightened
@graysonguinn1943
@graysonguinn1943 5 лет назад
muh gubermint tyrany
@dextermorgan7441
@dextermorgan7441 4 года назад
J The Critic Republican didn’t oppose civil rights in the 1900s, you meant to say democrats...
@johanrunfeldt7174
@johanrunfeldt7174 3 года назад
4:00 With Ronald Reagan as POTUS that's very true.
@harsunra
@harsunra 5 лет назад
Please talk about Gandhi vs Ambedkar
@rybaneightsix5085
@rybaneightsix5085 2 года назад
Lazy fur.
@EbonKim
@EbonKim 5 лет назад
Laws Affair?
@mumhustler
@mumhustler 3 года назад
teddy roosevelt, Americas first proto-fascist president ffw to today to see this disaster in full swing
@brickbreak841
@brickbreak841 4 года назад
I love your videos and I’m not even in AP Euro or APUSH. I’m just really interested in history.
@JoeCole_social
@JoeCole_social 5 лет назад
just found this channel, love the content. Please keep up the good work!
@harsunra
@harsunra 5 лет назад
Gramsci vs Marx
@thedigitalsymphony3585
@thedigitalsymphony3585 4 года назад
I trust the government about as much as I trust for Bill Cosby to give me a drink.
@mumhustler
@mumhustler 3 года назад
lol, I trust the government about as much as I trust for Bill Cosby to give my daughter a drink.
@natiwati7878
@natiwati7878 4 года назад
... What’d I miss!?
@Eliteguitarschool
@Eliteguitarschool 5 лет назад
Awesome video! We need more people like you in the media. If you ever need any killer guitar riffs for your videos hit me up.
@tomrichey
@tomrichey 5 лет назад
Shoot me an email and let’s chat about options for that.
@konstantinusstoyanov9749
@konstantinusstoyanov9749 4 года назад
You are wonderful
@harsunra
@harsunra 5 лет назад
Hannah Arendt
@justinparrish2056
@justinparrish2056 5 лет назад
This might be my new favorite video of yours. I've been a staunch individualist for some time now, but I've become more pragmatic in my thinking as of late. The agrarian Jeffersonian republic was eaten by industrialization. The percentage of the population involved in agriculture has been on a downward trend since the industrial revolution. This obviously caused workers to lose there jobs. The majority moved to the manufacturing sector leading to the progressive era. Now we have automation already taking the most monotonous manufacturing jobs and coming for the rest. Policy these days is focused on scapegoating rising economies and immigrants when it's the automation that's the primary cause. I'm sort of liking the idea floating around of letting people opt out of the wasteful bureaucracy that is welfare in favor of a universal basic income. That way people don't feel like anyone is getting a free ride at their expense, but nobody dies on the streets. It seems like a practical solution that both sides should go along with. The lefties won't want to give up any existing freebies, and I'm worried about inflation but hey almost anything is better than the wasteful nonsense we got now.
@Eukatae
@Eukatae 5 лет назад
Automation, like labor, costs money. When automation drives down the cost of labor those jobs that were in danger of being automated are more cheaply done by humans. All the while driving increased production lowering the real cost of goods. Everyone has a job, everyone prospers. It has been this way since the Luddites and there is no indication that this time it is somehow magically different. Also if you think UBI will do away with extant forms of welfare it wont. It wont lift anyone out of poverty, or prevent people dying in the street. None of this has ever worked, more of it will not work even more. People will still cry poverty then suddenly all those 'services' they had to give up to get UBI will be available to them again and they will get both, and still be poor.
@purpledurple621
@purpledurple621 5 лет назад
Sounds like you would be interested in Andrew Yang. He has a welfare neutral UBI, so it's a either or between UBI or your existing welfare programs
@justinparrish2056
@justinparrish2056 5 лет назад
@@Eukatae I agree totally, but it'd be a lot cooler if it did.
@justinparrish2056
@justinparrish2056 5 лет назад
@@purpledurple621 #YangGang
@marcocardamone8347
@marcocardamone8347 5 лет назад
Unemployment is unaffected by automation in the long run and drives down costs
@willymags123
@willymags123 5 лет назад
When a branch of government becomes too big it is then the majority and Corruption always takes place. Let every man do what is right in his own eyes, is my philosophy.
@spazinmonkey
@spazinmonkey 5 лет назад
In my experience the current administration has its feet on both sides of the question. The Trump government hasn't been quick to act, specifically concerning the gun control issue despite near constant examples of our current laws' inability to prevent mass shootings. On the other side Trump has been seen to needlessly involve himself in the "question" of transgenders in the military. It's a hard question whether the government is too involved or not involved enough but I think its largely dependent on the person occupying the executive seat.
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