Thor: Love and Thunder Is Not A Good Movie! 

The title speaks for itself. Please watch my entire video before you bash me with your anger, please watch the entire video. I want Marvel to do good, but we have to call them out if they're not maintaining their level of quality.

This movie contained a stage-4 cancer diagnosis, a fight between Thor and Zeus, and freaking Eternity…and the stakes somehow felt higher when Hawkeye was trying to get home in time for Christmas

Having *Christian Bale* in the movie and not taking an advantage of that. _Quite the shame!_

i genuinely am more sad at gorr's death scene than janes

One other thing that bothered me was that that is no learning curve in powers and abilities. Happened with Jane and the mjølnir, Valkyrie/Thor and Zeus's thunderbolt and those kids instantly having battle knowledge. I get they got Thor's power but they also learned how to use in like a second?

Such a shame since they showed Hela slaughtering all of Asgard's army while they could barely show Gorr kill some gods 😂

One thing that bothered me was that everyone that “died” still came back. Zeus, Korrg, Gorr’s daughter, Jane Foster, even Valkyrie getting stabbed did nothing. Only person that died and we are never gonna see again is Gorr himself. Hate when they do that in movies

Marvel wants us to sympathize with wanda for losing her imaginary kids. Had me rollin' on the floor🤣

After watching the movie it saddens me to see what Thor’s character has become.. He used to be such a serious and awesome character that gave you goosebumps when you saw him on screen. Now he’s basically the joke of the MCU

The fact that Thor wasn't worried if gorr had the stormbreaker made me feel like gorr was weak because they almost didn't care about it

The only time I thought Thor was serious when he thought Korg died. That was really a good moment, seeing Thor full of anger. But even that moment was ruined when we see Korg's head making another joke

_I’m shocked they went back to put some respect on Odin’s death._

We also didn't see Jane Foster transforming into Thor for the first time!😠 We just got the intro of Mighty Thor which was already revealed in teasers😐

There was supposed to be a scene where Gorr removes his tattoos but they thought it was “ graphic “ and not family friendly. I think that scene alone would’ve added so much more to his character.

The thing with all new marvel series and movies is, that the directors and co. don't have to put any big effort into the making of the movies, because everyone is hyping up the movie, not knowing if its good or not. Therefore the movie makers see how much effort they have to put in the making. Because the hype is so big, everyone knows it will be a great movie, but it also shows the movie makers how less of work they have to put in

Also missed an opportunity with Sif. Showing her being nearly killed (maybe deliberately kept alive by Gorr to call out Thor) would have been a good way to show how dangerous Gorr is Agreed with this video. I love the Thor films but this is the weakest by far. The first 45 minutes could have been a Thor spoof film

When I saw a few shots of Christian Bale as Gorr, I instantly knew that this would make an amazing thriller/horror and instead we got a live action cartoon, as expected

There's a shot right before Jane shows up at the end to help Thor when Gor is pushing the Necrosword into his chest that mirrors the scene from Endgame when Thanos is pushing Stormbreaker into Thors chest and is interrupted by Mjolnir hitting him out of nowhere, but this time instead of Thor's reaction being joyful that his friend was found worthy, he's saddened that Jane came anyway

My biggest issue was that Thor and Gor's motives didn't logically make them enemies. Gor wanted to punish the gods for not doing anything for their people when needed, and accomplishes this by kidnapping Thor's people knowing he'd come to rescue them? Isn't that self contradictory? When Gor was talking to Thor, I was just waiting for Thor to say something along the lines of: "I'm not like those lazy indulgent morons, I'm here aren't I? I mean, I get why you want to kill them, I killed their leader on my way here after trying to rely on him for like, 5 minutes." I also think the whole theme of the movie was undermined by Gor right. They clearly showed that none of the gods had any redeeming qualities at all (other than the Asgardians). This could've been so much better if Gor's initial god was somehow justified - such as being distracted battling the prior owner of the necrosword. You can keep Zeus from getting involved by having him be preoccupied fulfilling Odin's duties on top of his own and not considering Gor a real threat. The whole thing with Eternity also felt lazy. Thor managed to get there in a few minutes, even without using the bifrost to travel, yet we're meant to believe nobody else could ever get there? Then Jane managed to get there just as quickly using yet another means of transport.

7:28 "some fans will love a series unconditionally, but true fans will be able to love a series and see it's flaws"

Marvel seems to be making the male superheroes to be clowns and idiots and the women superheroes to be strong, intelligent and superior to their male counterparts.

This movie felt more of a Disney+ sitcom than a major MCU movie. While I think Taika wanted to recreate the magic of Ragnarok, but what we needed is the Thor who was recovering from Endgame. That being said, I thought the ending was touching when Thor wanted to spend his last moments with Jane. Gorr was great in this movie. Jane reaching Valhalla and meeting Heimdall left me very satisfied on that arc.

I agree. I didn't shed a tear during the entire movie and didn't feel much sympathy for Jane either. The tone changed from serious to ridiculous so often, I didn't have any room to feel emotion. Marvel needs to give us a better story. You can't just throw some costume, humor, CGI and fights at us and think we'll be happy with that. We need a compelling plot.

I totally agree with you, too much comedy, too little seriousness. This film could never match-up ragnarok dude. Ragnarok and Infinity War are the top movies of the MCU. Marvel is getting Disney’d with their movies, and its a shame

The film could have really done justice to Gorr by having him duke it out with the giant snow monster (Idk what it's called) and Lady Sif and fights with the gods he had killed. The distress call scene with the Guardians was an example of the mistake of telling rather than showing.

When Mjolnir was shattered, Thor went through stages of emotion. Storm breaker gets stolen, he’s like 🤷🏻 That to me was a big “WTF” moment… like, Thor almost died to make that weapon and Groot sacrificed a piece of himself to help make it… How is it any less special than Mjolnir 🫤

Let's be brutally honest - phase 4 has failed to live up to phases 1-3. Some good moments, some good starts with bad finishes, but lots of missteps along the way...

Taika has no idea how to utilize his best actors

The film starts with Love. The beggining scene establishes the character that becomes the personification of Love. There's a lot of problems with this film, theme is not one in my opinion.

The movie would have been a 10/10 for me if they give "Gor the God butcher" a scene where he butcher GODS

I want Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston to play their respective roles in the MCU as long as they can. I feel like they were born to play these roles.

Agreed when I was watching the Thor love and thunder in theaters it felt like something was of but I couldn’t put my finger on it however you explained it perfectly. and it’s a real shame when marvel movies are slightly underwhelming because I love them so much

I haven't read the comics but Gor being "redeemed" at the end he still brought back his daughter meant nothing for me, it didn't get me emotional at all like a lot of the MCU endings did. It only left me confused. It would have been more meaningful if he used his wish to cure Jane. That way both Thor would be with Jane and Gor would be with his daughter. This is all from the in universe story perspective not the real life actors decisions.

I love the non bias review of the movie. I love Marvel movies too with all my heart but we should also criticize the movie if it lacks something.

I actually took a day off from work to watch the 1st showing. Unfortunately, I was highly disappointed. It had no character development and poor dialogue. The constant jokes felt ad-libbed and most of them fell flat, all while undercutting a lot of the serious moments. Not a single character stood out, including Valkyrie, who seems sidelined through the movie but especially Gorr, who was tame compared to a villain like Stranger Things’ Vecna , who also controlled tentacles. It was like Taititi smoked weed and did shrooms while he directed, cuz the movie was all over the place while not really going anywhere. Sure, there were some decent moments here and there, but they few and far between. Sadly, the movie as a whole was nowhere near the level of fun of Ragnarok. This, along with most of the Disney+ shows, and even MoM, makes it seem like the MCU lost its mojo after Endgame and No Way Home... and Shang Chi till the CGI-fest ending.

Just saw the movie and wow. Who doesn’t possess the ability to destroy not just the universe but the multiverse now? When Thanos stepped on the scene, you really had this weird feeling of dread. Hero’s died, hero’s lost. It was all so uncertain. But now we’ve been introduced to Kang the Conqueror, the Scarlet Witch, technically Evil Strange/Ultron/Killmonger, and now the God Butcher. Thanos feels like such a fairytale now. These OP villains are coming out the wood work and getting absolutely slammed.

Just watched it earlier and the movie felt underwhelming for me with quite a few problems. While the creepy scene that Gorr trapped the trio and threatened Thor to call stormbreaker left the most impression on me in the entire film, I felt like it should have had more of an impact on Valkyrie. The way she was reminded of her trauma about Odin ordering the whole valkryie squad to fight Hela was devastating but all that were seemingly just gone after that scene. Also, while Christian definitely did an amazing job as Gorr, what is the motive of Gorr just bringing the children and walk inside the temple together? There is wasted potential there with the children fighting back against Gorr himself and Gorr not willing to fight them since they remind him of her daughter etc. Moving on, Gorr making his wish to eternity at the end of the film was a weak move for me. While it reflected the shots in the start of the film, you are telling me that Gorr, who literally wanted to butcher all the gods because they ignored his prayers and let her daughter die is now praying (again) to this higher tier entity and expecting something from this guy? Seriously?

I think they should’ve put more screen time for Jane before she became the mighty Thor so we can really attach ourself to her character, but the writer just tried to make her like Thor instead of making her her unique character cause she could’ve been a way more impactful character

One thing that puzzled me is that Jane didn’t have any of the side effects of chemo, such as a hair loss.

If Canadian Lad says the movie is bad you know it’s bad

You described how I feel about Thor : Love and Thunder perfectly and with many points and evidence of certain things .

I like The Canadian Lad because he is not just some yesman that just LOOOOVES everything marvel churns out, some other youtubers out there are so frustrating because they never admit that Marvel makes mistakes, but instead always just defends them no matter how awful some of their outputs are just to stay in their good graces. He's okay with criticizing their movies and showing tough love towards them.

I think Doctor Strange 2, No Way Home and Shang Chi felt like they had actual stakes, in this movie it felt like doesnt have no stakes or emotional impact like Wanda and Doctor strange in MoM, or Spiderman emotional parts and Shang Chi personal relationship with father and son worked for me unlike this film.

The story was told by Korg. As the unreliable storyteller, I knew that I could not take this as an accurate retelling of these events. How Thor behaves in the next movie will really let me know how to feel about the character after Endgame. Definitely did not top Ragnarok though.

Thank you for this. I really hope Marvel takes in all the feedback seriously because Phase 4 isn’t looking very good so far. The lack of a clear vision and mediocre content is very frustrating.

I felt sympathy for Jane personally. To watch her get these new powers and a new and even better chance to fight along side thor and be in love just to have that exact power be the thing she has to both use and sacrifice to save thor? I loved it personally.

You know if this was a 6 hour Tv Show then i feel like we would have got enough time. Jane's Cancer story and Gorr's story being crunched up in a 2 hour movie was too much with unnecessary jokes and bad pacing to go with it

This is without a doubt a video that makes me proud to be a fan of yours. In an era where we either have morons screaming how woke something is just because they can and fanboys ripping on the personalities of people they never met because they were honestly stating their opinion of a IP, it is getting as tiresome to watch as what I am considering the Sophomore slump of the MCU. And yes although this is considered Phase 4 this still can be considered Sophopmoric in both definitions of the term based on how cohesive phases 1-3 were telling one huge arc with a balance between serious and juvenile humor which phase 4 has yet to find a balance. Your honesty makes you someone who one can not only enjoy as a presenter it also makes you someone who has more credibility than most others who breakdown films for a living. Thank you for this.

Before the video starts I already agree, it felt very half finished.. Gore had a big gap, Jane had a big gap.. also I thought Korg had a mum? (Remember "I tried to start a rebellion but only my mum showed up and her boyfriend who I hate" etc). Now he says he had 2 dads?

I love that Gorr usually walks into the scene looking like he has a skull face, and then comes closer and you see a change in his face a bit, turning more "human"

Christian bale is a very good actor, unfortunatly MCU movies are for kids and kids at heart who likes cheesy movies. His acting skills is underuntilized. Bring him to DC movies.

The simple description of the movie: When we all waited to figure how Thor will find his true self and purpose in life Taiki turned the legendary marvel character into a clown 🤡

Yeah not a great outing this time around for Thor. I Left the theater feeling a bit underwhelmed. It had its moments but not enough to overcome its faults. I think after Ragnorak I was expecting more from such a great team that it didn’t hold up to its potential. Overall I give it a 6/10

The Film Could've Been Better If They Just Made Thor A Little Godlike!! In Infinity War, Thor Felt Like "Holy Shit, That One Really Feels Like A God"!! Honestly Speaking, Infinity War Really Made Thor A God But This One Ruined It!!

Sometimes I think that it's just Disney's fault because in order to make a good movie, you need time. The time that Taika Waititi didn't have from Disney.

Here's an idea. If the original story is about 3 thors trying to stop Gorr,then why didn't they just do Thor,Jane and Beta ray bill teaming up to stop Gorr? Just a thought.

Honestly I enjoyed the movie and thought this take was ridiculous when I read the title but after watching the video he actually brings up some great points

Phase four has honestly been ruining marvel for me story lines feel like a good idea but only a rough draft at best. Another thing is how much unnecessary humor there is which never makes stakes actually feel real and dangerous. Also particularly in this movie you see how bad the character development is handle and how for older characters there is almost always inverting the characters development from the past(except nwh, loki and one or two others I'm probably forgetting)

I totally agree they wasted gorr like gorr was supposed to be like a god hunter and Thor killed him really easily and didn’t even struggle

I loved it, I was worried for Jane when we find out she sick and felt sad. I was happy at her becoming mighty Thor Them kissing and opening up I’m thankful for them showing the trauma Certain scenes could have done without comedy but generally I enjoyed it.

I wish somebody from Marvel saw this and took it to heart. Absolutely agree with you Lad and I'd add one more complaint - Mjollnir was supposed to protect Jane, yet using it was making her cancer worse. Why, then, did it call to her or even allowed her to use it? That goes completely against what Thor wanted when he enchanted the hammer.

I didn’t feel as much emotion as I did from Ragnorok. That’s my problem. I wish there was a scene where Thor opened up to Jane Foster before it was too late. Then when Jane came back to help, it would be much more sad and serious. Seeing more Gorr would be good too. I would have loved to see Gorr go to that planet Omnipotent and just start causing chaos. Also I just would have liked to see Gorr, see that Thor was different. Thor literally lost everything. He lost his father, mother, brother, sister(the sister was a psychopath too, wouldn’t be nice to have for a sister), and now his ex who he still loves very much. Connecting Thor with Gorr on an emotional would’ve been good for building character. We could see just how angry and heart broken Gorr really is.

3:31 the ending he deserved hahhahaha

1. Thor Ragnarok 2. Thor Love and Thunder 3. Thor 4. Thor The Dark World

I’ve seen a few interviews where they say something like “it’s like a kid asked for all kinds of weird things, and we said yes to everything” and that really shows. I find the scenes where they travel to omnipotence city, unnecessary because the only thing it was actually used for to bring the story forward was for them to get the thunderbolt so travelling around the universe was still possible without Stormbreaker. Had Gorr actually appeared after Zeus talking about Thor being used to find the city would have been great. I do get that it can important to showcase the fact that Thor is not scared like the other gods and to showcase who they are fighting for, but it felt to useless and too much like it was just kids that wanted all kinds of gods there like the god of dumplings just to get laughs

Love that a marvel affiliated channel is finally being honest about the current situation of marvel. Not enough people are like this dude. 😁😁😁

The thing that is getting on my nerves is why thor never use the powers he use against hulk and hela In Thor Ragnarok thor learn to use his powers without his hammer but he didn't use the power in infinity war endgame and now thor love and thunder

8:22 you missed it

He's accurate to the decimal. Everything wrong with the movie lad has brought up. Everything needs criticism as well as praise when needed.

One of the scenes I really remember from this movie was when Thor was talking to Jane about her cancer on the ship while in space. It was serious for a small moment and I was really engaged

I'm so happy people agree that Christian Bale was such a wasted talent, a terrific actor for such an underwhelmingly written character.

The first thing I said when I got out of the theater was “ wow I really didn’t like the way the tone changed so randomly from something gruesome happening all of a sudden to Thor cracking a joke” Or something really similar to that so I’m glad that it got noticed by other people Like “ maybe your arm is in Valhalla “

Personally I think the mcu is going to big in scale, as the first avengers movie was only the sixth installment to the mcu, so only five projects to set up a villain and it was loved and the same goes for phase two and three. But for phase four we've had seven shows and five movies with no penultimate movie in sight bringing these characters together. This just makes the mcu feel very cluttered. What also impacts it's quality is having so many installment that it just feels like there trying to cram in as much filler as possible so they can have as many big characters in phase four as possible to get the biggest pay off, but many will agree that a good payoff will not redeem the mediocre beginning and middle of a project. This is just my opinion and I am personally enjoying a lot of phase four projects (Loki,Thor 4,Schang Chi, Moon knight and No Way Home to name a few) but I do think that their biting off a bit more than they can chew with this amount of projects with no penultimate movie in sight.

A great story with serious plot and characters ruined by unnecessary overly used comedy and less story telling. Felt like watching a PG -10 movie. I don't know who's fault it is but MCU gotta work on screentime mistakes that they did with Doctor strange 2 and thor 4.

This doesn't really make the movie super bad but at the end when Gorr makes his wish, I was kinda expecting that he would think that because he would already die and he could reunite with his daughter in the afterlife so instead he would have Thor get his wish instead while Jane was still alive and wish that she didn't have cancer anymore. It would have been a much more nicer story plot (not that I'm saying that the original is bad) as Thor would actually not lose somebody he loves for the first time and we could have seen more of Mighty Thor. This could have also redeemed Gorr in a much better way. Edit: Changed "her" to "his daughter"

I don't understand why Thor even risked allowing Gorr to make his wish at all. The necrosword was destroyed, so he no longer had any power. Thor could have easily defeated the mortal Gorr and then Thor could have wished to permanently eliminate all disease in the universe or something. He could have saved Jane and literally trillions of lives if he made the wish to Eternity.

Not gonna lie The only thing i hated was the ending and no onscreen butchering of gods....

Finally! Now, I loved it at first but after re-thinking it, Love and Thunder could have Been done better. And the fact that there is a 4 Hour Cut Out there, meaning they cut out 2 hours of the movie, including multiple scenes of Gorr killing beings such as The Grand Master which is really disappointing Because Bale carried the movie as Gorr. Ragnarök was the perfect level of Taika-ness, but L&T is just over the top to the point that they make their own characters seem stupid. Like Sif, one of the Legendary Asgardian’ doesn’t even know the rules of Being able to get into Valhalla. It’s just stupid. And at one point (Spoilers) Zeus Seems to take Gorr seriously by saying “Yeah dude I’m terrified of him but stop bringing his name up because it will start to cause a panic among the gods.” And at this point in the movie I thought it was going to take a serious turn because even Zeus is scared but nope, right back to being over the top.

God butcher is not shown butchering god's so that, at the end it is easier for audience to accept the sudden change in morality at the end ... And everyone forgives everything easily...no Karma That's why it's so weird...and unbalanced.

yo!!! thor and loki fall in love with female versions of themselves. WTFF!!! 😂 also, cancer is the main villain in this movie.

I'm excited to see what they do with Hercules. This also opens up the door for so many other potential stories from the comics, even Dark Avengers. I'm still hoping Beta Ray Bill appears at some point either in his own tv series or a movie at some point.

agree wholeheartedly. You have articulated so much better than I could have, all because we want to enjoy the MCU, we want it to continue to succeed. But not at the cost of bad story telling, shallow character development, and taking acting out of actors/actresses

Hey people.. if you don't like something, don't watch it. Go watch something else. Not everything is written directly for you. Some things you'll like, some things you won't. Just be open-minded and considerate towards other people's art. You obviously have a lot of time on your hands and nothing better to do than criticize and judge. This film meant a lot to me because of the things I and the ones I love relate to and have suffered through. Regardless of all your hate, you can't take that away from me, and you never will, but how does it feel to know that you are directly offending innocent people because you are so close-minded that you didn't even realize that you are hurting people? You might mean well but you are hurting people. Sometimes it's better to mind your business and if you don't like something, then ignore it. I hope that now you realize what's going on and maybe decide to step back a little bit because I believe all people have good in them, and I always have hope and try to find the goodness in everyone. I believe you have it in you, and that you might learn something today. But sometimes hate and judgment might do more damage than all your claims combined.

I believe they focused more on jane than Gorr , and thats very dissappointing . Marvel just wasted one of the best villains.

I can say I was never disappointed with the marvel movies releases recently, but that only being the case because I knew exactly where to set my expectations. Each movie could have done so much better by setting a more serious tone in certain scenes, like no way home. The scene at the end with Gorr and Thor is nice, does some things right, but like what was said, could have done more with christian bale.

I strongly agree with you, The Canadian Lad. I remembered when they took Thor seriously in the MCU in the past, such as the fact that he was good in Infinity War. Those were good times and oh boy how this movie ran its course. What even flames me up is when Thor starts making jokes, that's when the ship has sailed for me. Overall, I feel utterly disappointed that this was how the movie was, and I regret spending money to watch this clown-fest.

The movie starts with korg telling the story of Thor, the movie is his representation of what happened. That’s why it’s so comedic instead of serious. Cmon man!

That's not Thor: Love and Thunder, it's Thor: the Parodie

Literally thats what i was thinking about after the show Where is Gorr Where is the urgency, the pace I was waiting to see Gorr classic torture style but all i saw was Bale being being a really great actor than being Gorr

I agree the comedic aspects were played too much and gorr really needed more screen time. but I think how thor himself acted made so much sense. as someone who's lost everything and messed up numerous times while fighting different threats for thousands of yeats, you start going numb. hence why he lost himself and couldn't even be a proper leader. He just wanted to overuse his comedy to deal with his lack of genuine concern for anything. I think they could have elaborated on that more but in the end it didn't lead to much

I personally think the movie should have been about Gorr targeting the newly-worthy Jane, with a much more serious tone due to the stakes

So true, the Gorr thing was literally the only thing I talked about for the next hour after watching the movie, even before I knew people were dissatisfied with the recent marvel movies.

I love the scene where Gorr said "It's butchering time" and Thor just laugh that scene give me goosebumps and I cheered

Yess you are right here! 1:00 This is the second Marvel movie where something like this happens. He is called Gorr the God butcher, but we don't see him butchering anything 😅 Same in Dr Strange 2. It is called Multiverse of Madness, but they just flew trough realities and that it 🤦🏾

Agreed. Taika should be cut off. Not canceled… just not allowed to make anymore MCU content

Ragnarok was a solid 9, in fact, it might be my favourite movie after infinity war... but, this love and thunder is much weaker, going back to the thor:dark world.. maybe even lower. No feeling, no pace.. everything stuck together and the same dumb jokes. Weak effort with less nice colors than ragnarok.

When Thor Made A Joke While Lady Sif Was Dying , That Felt Wierd

After Gorr was able to take Stormbreaker, I thought Thor and the others were going to panic but they actually took it lightly so I was disappointed with that. I also realized something about Doctor strange 2, Doctor strange told america that he has had experience with the multiverse with spider-man, so he might have lied to spider-man that he will also forget him when casts that spell.

Christian Bale was awesome in this movie, everything else was shit. Even their costumes looked fake :(

I also feel like Sif's character could've been more dug up. She was absent from the MCU for a decade now and the Taika totally did not respect her. She has barely ten seconds of screentime and in these poor seconds, her arm gets cut off. She was so underrated in this movie. In the comics, she plays a much more important role, and even in mythology. It is really unfair for her character as her character could've been really promising. I hope we will see more of her in future movies and see the character finally develop more. Example: She could be Valkyries' queen.