Well, look at me forgetting to put my NO SPOILER PSA into this reaction today. So I'mma put it here. PLEASE NO SPOILERS ABOUT FUTURE MCU MOVIES AND TV SHOWS, and please don't set expectations. Y'all have been pretty good so far, so please keep it that way if you are enjoying me not knowing anything going into these! Thanks a million. 💛💛 Free Patreon Reactions: kaiielle.com/free
Non-spoilery explainer: It's not mentioned in the movie, but Taneleer Tivan/The Collector [Benicio Del Toro's character] is in fact immortal and slightly younger than the age of the universe, he's called The Collector because that's basically all he's done across all space and time (hence his museum setting) - this means that if you have something that is of interest to him, it is of universal importance, very literally. Like mondays with Kaiielle 💚
In the comics they explain his purpose for collecting things. He’s creating back ups for the inevitable destruction of the universe. Which he believes will be caused by Thanos lol
With a franchise as big as the MCU, you start singling out movies as "skippable" for the overall experience. Thor 2 is one for a lot of people, and I can see why, but the problem (which is actually an anti-problem) is that Loki is quite possibly at his absolute best right here in this movie. You get to see him as a villain right from the start, and unlike the Avengers, where he plays the maniacal wannabe dictator, he gets a lot of character work and range here that solidifies him as one of the best characters in the series. It's really cool that even the most "mid" Marvel movies still have incredible redeeming qualities like that.
I don’t know if you notice that Loki didn’t know that Frigga die, when the guard told him, he destroy the chairs in the room, because he really cares about her.
You're not alone in finding Loki more endearing as time goes by. Tom Hiddleston brings so much to the role, and I'm glad that they cast him. Can't wait for your reaction to the next one! 💚
So, fun thing about Loki. They had originally written and filmed it to where Loki _actually_ died, but when they did test screenings... much like you, literally no one believed that he was actually dead. Not simply that they didn't want him to die, they didn't believe he died. So, rather than fight that, they changed their plans and filmed those scenes to show that, yes, he is alive. I feel like it was the right decision. And yeah, Darcy... she was very annoying for me through this one and the first one. The whole "Mew-mew" thing... bothered me a LOT. Still, love this movie, and love what they did with Loki in it 💚
The way Odin treats Jane is the same way he treats Loki, they're useless to him until he finds out that they have power and then he'll take it all costs.
There were movies that were better than others, but there wasn't one between Iron Man and Endgame that I did not enjoy. "Dark World" was the exception.
I totally get how you feel about this one, I'm very indifferent to it myself. I have seen it about a handful of times on its own, it is not one I think of putting on when I'm looking for something to watch again. Not to say I would switch channels if it ever was on TV, just a whole lot of meh with this one. Granted, Thor is not my favorite hero so that doesn't help. I did enjoy your reaction video more than I actually do the movie. Lots of great observations, the chuckles make me smile, this was a feel good moment which I do not turn down these days. Thank you. 💚😉
No. And still "fans" claim he's a narcissist. Something a narc would NEVER DO, is sacrifice themselves for someone else, much like Odin whom let's HIS OWN WIFE DIE TO GAIN POWER.
@@radicalreactions1633 As a psychiatrist, Loki IS a narcissist, and he has the typical narcissist upbringing where he has to constantly compare himself to a better sibling. Narcissism isn't a disorder, it is learned behavior over a long time of unmet needs at a young age, and it can also go away because of that, which is what it does over time for Loki, especially in the Loki show due to people actually counting on him and believing in him for once. They want and need him, and that is what cures his issues. Before, his "birthright was to die". It's really the fault of family dynamics that cause him to be the way he is.
I loved this reaction! Loki was definitely the MVP in this movie, though the movie wasn't too memorable due to the weird story. I'm looking forward to more MCU Mondays!! 💚
I honestly can't remember how I feel about this movie which I guess is pretty telling. Ultimately unforgettable for me but I'd always include it in a series rewatch 💚
I enjoyed this one. I was surprised by some of the negativity that others had for it. Ultimately, it’s a piece of a much bigger puzzle yet to be revealed.
I found this film, like you, to leave me wanting, but the Hiddleston-Hemsworth dynamic was pure gold. Like David, below, I call it the speed bump on the MCU journey. I think its main purpose was to introduce the Aether to the time line. You do great work on the edit, btw. I feel like picking your MCU journey up on patreon going forward. (green heart)
Also I'd like to know how you manage to avoid any spoiler comments, like do you have another person that reads the comments and deletes the spoiler ones before you get to read them?
@@éoRafahFi Thanks for enjoying that! I do have a few mods set up for my RU-vid channel who are familiar with the MCU that come through and have removed a few comments across my videos, but overwhelmingly people have been really cooperative and not having spoilers in their comments.
I have many mixed feelings about this movie. I think the best thing done in this movie was the comedy didn't feel too force on my side. Loki was by far a great addition to this movie. This movie had its up and downs. I'd rate it a solid 5 out of 10.
Fun fact - Malekith was played by Christopher Eccleston, the 9th Doctor in the British science-fiction series Doctor Who. DW is a crazy big franchise just like the MCU, although the former has been around for about 60 years now. Hardcore Doctor Who fans can feel free to correct me! 💚
Underwhelming, that's just the right word to describe this movie. This one is the only MCU Movie that I skip when I re-watch them, I think you nailed the review of this movie with that one single word.
You asked why it feels like every movie has a hand sliced off. It was a conscious decision. Every movie in phase 2 has an arm chopped off as an homage to Star Wars, especially the most famous moment where Luke gets his hand cut off in Empire, the 2nd Star Wars movie, hence doing it in phase 2. I like this movie more than most. Maleketh is given crap for being a 1 dimensional villain, but that was the point. He was nothing more than a brick wall to smash into. The true story belonged to Thor and Loki. That being said, if I had never seen any MCU film and someone showed me this one, my response would have been, "This is the worst film in the whole franchise? Then sign me up."
By the way, neat piece of trivia, in the end credits kiss, that's not Natalie Portman. She was unavailable and so Chris Hemsworth's real life wife stood in for her wearing a wig.
Hey Kaiielle, great reaction as always. I think you got out of this movie what you needed. The relationship with Thor and Loki is so good. I do like this movie, but agree with you that it has a lot of meh in it. Your list of what you liked and disliked is spot on with most Marvel fans, but as many others have said, it just gets better from here. With that said, thanks again for the post, and here's to your next videos. Have a great day. 💚😀
I think this movie hurt from not bringing Kenneth Branagh back as Director. He had a firm grasp of the characters and world in the first movie That said I do enjoy this movie and actually have the less popular opinion that the first 2 Thors are better than the next 2. Really enjoying watching your reactions as you make your way through the MCU 💚
I like how you managed to draw positives from this movie. Most reactors just dunk on it. So as usual, good job and can't wait for your next Marvel reaction 💚
Great review! I remember feeling similarly my first time watching this as well especially in terms of the story. When I recently did a timeline-order watch through (having seen EVERYTHING) I was able to follow everything a lot more clearly. Not sure why, honestly. I felt like it had too many moving parts and the tie-ins to Avengers was an afterthought/forced. Loki THO
Yay thanks for the shoutout! Yeah Sigma Nu was my fraternity in college. I was the 435th member to join. Btw as you progress…this movie will continue to be at the bottom…it only gets better from here! 💚
This was one of the more tumultuous entries in the MCU behind the scenes. Natalie Portman pushed Disney to hire director Patty Jenkins to direct the film. If that had gone smoothly, Jenkins would have been the first woman to direct a Marvel movie, the first woman to direct a superhero movie, and the first female director in movie history to be given a budget of over $100m. However, Jenkins ultimately felt that she could not realize her vision within the constraints set by Marvel Studios, and left the project. Portman was upset at Marvel's unwillingness to budge, and only completed the film as a contractual obligation (whether or not said obligation ends here, I won't say, so don't take this as meaning anything about future movies one way or another). As you may know, Jenkins later went on to achieve all three goals, just swapping Marvel in the first one with DC, when she made Wonder Woman in 2018. I believe this is one of the weakest entries in the MCU. One big change I would've made would be to remove Odin's narration from the beginning of the movie and have those scenes play out as actual dramatic sequences instead of plain old exposition, which I think would have helped make Malekith seem like more of a character. Any further explanation necessary could have been moved to the middle when Jane is on Asgard and learning the story herself via the illustrated book. I also think the movie just looks oddly cheap compared to the original, which had such beautiful ornate set design and rich detail when they were in Asgard, whereas Asgard in this, to me, looks like Star Wars prequel greenscreen to me most of the time, and then there's that long sequence set in the middle of nowhere, which is just visually boring. I do find the portal stuff fun, and I enjoy some of the other comic moments in this, but it's not enough to save it from falling toward the bottom of the pile. That said, at least they stopped bleaching Hemsworth's eyebrows. Fun fact: Portman was unavailable when they filmed the shot of Thor and Jane kissing at the very end, so Hemsworth's real-life wife Elsa Pataky stood in for her, since she is only seen from behind in the kiss shot.
Your point about excluding the narration at the start and having it in the middle would have probably helped me out a LOT more with this! Even while editing this reaction, the narration at the start felt so abrupt and sudden and like trying to shove a ton of information at me all at once. Thanks for your comment!
@@kaiielle I wrote the above comment after the reaction was over but before I watched the closing thoughts. I'll also add that Anthony Hopkins almost declined to return for this one. I think he did the first one mostly as a favor to director Kenneth Branagh, who of course has real cred from directing Shakespeare films and stage acting. I think if he was disengaged here, it has to do with the fact that his character has to do all of this exposition (an actor's least-favorite material).
for me personally Iron Man 3 and Thor Dark World is a bumb you just have to get over if you wanna watch Marvel, but they are still decent movies, which volumes than even the low tier Marvel are still decent. as always your approach to these movies are amazing the love rational explanation of your opinions. Looking forward to more Marvel in the future. Keep up the Great work :D
In a universe of movies, they can't all be winners. I will say that I appreciate this one more than I did when I first saw it, having re-watched it since then. I would also posit that both Loki AND Darcy make it tolerable 😄 (Sorry, I'm just unabashedly team Darcy. Her "miumiu" never gets old to me.) Gosh darnit, also forgot: 💚💚💚
@@mikelarsen5836 Not gonna guess, cause it doesn't matter what you think of me and my reactions because you're here watching and commenting and that's all I can ask for! Thank you. 😊😊
I think I know why this film falters. The first one, despite whatever shortcomings it may have, was directed by Kenneth Branagh, who is famous for making films based on Shakespeare's ouvre, and he directed that movie with the same seriousness and gravitas he would have any work of the Bard. Dark World, however, was not directed by Branagh, and it really shows. Branagh really has this way of making every scene feel epic and important that Alan Taylor seriously lacks.
I choose to only compare MCU movies to other movies in the MCU. Technically, I don’t dislike any movies in the MCU (especially the first 3 phases). However, Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 3 have been my least favorite MCU movies since 2013. I don’t love either of them, but I definitely don’t hate either of them as well.
People hate on this one but it's legit one of my favorites. It looks gorgeous, the score is incredible, and the production design is stellar. Yeah, story is definitely weak just because the stakes were so low considering The Avengers had just come out the year before. But I still think this thing rips.
I wanted to apologize for my disrespectful comment earlier. I didn't think you'd be a content creator that looks at your comments. That being said, I suppose I should share my thoughts on the film and why I acted the way I did. Thor: The Dark World IMO is one of the most underrated MCU films ever made. Not to say it's the best. The villain is lackluster and the humans other than Jane are kind of whatever, but other than that, this film pretty much outdoes its predecessor in every way. From the less predictable/generic story, to the much stronger character development, the better direction and cinematography (don't even get me started how bad the cinematography is in the first film), the more impressive visuals and action scenes, the greatly-executed emotional scenes, the Asgardians having way more screentime, Thor and Loki having way more screentime together, even Jane serves more of a purpose. It has never not baffled me why so many people say it's one of the weakest MCU films, especially when other MCU films like Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, Eternals, Guardians 2, Quantumania, The Marvels, and Multiverse of Madness all exist (which are all extremely messy and far worse), and pretty much improves upon the first film (which is only slightly above average at best) in nearly every way. And it certainly has a lot more thought and care put into its story and characters than Ragnarok ever did, which is by far the most overrated MCU film if you ask me. I hope you can at least understand why I feel this way, as I've been pretty much defending the film for over a decade to the point where I stopped caring about what I say. I deleted the other comment btw.
I accept your apology. That said, it baffles me that people think they are "safe" to be rude because they assume the creator won't see it. You can look at the comments section on any of my videos and see how many comments I "heart" and how many replies I leave. I am very active with my comments on my channel because it's one of the best parts of having one. But I have reactor friends who don't engage much in their comments at all, but they still go in and READ them. So they still see rude comments too, even if you don't get acknowledgment from them. So if you have nothing nice to say, it's better to just click X on the tab and move on. We're still real people with real feelings at the end of the day. Your comment wasn't all that bad, it gave me a chuckle. I've had far worse - people who have torn me the fuck apart and really just shown their own hurt and insecurities to me. Projecting. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and I'm glad you love this movie. I don't know that I was doing it at the time of putting out this video, but for the last few months here on the channel, in the outro of every reaction I ask people to tell me why they like or don't like the movie I just watched. I invite the conversations from both sides. Because I don't always love every movie, so in those instances I really enjoy hearing why people love it. And vice versa, if I love a movie and someone goes "Meh" about it, I like to get their perspective. Naturally, most viewers of reactions are going to hope people feel the same way about the movie as they do. But they also don't want fake reactions. But then they get upset when someone feels differently about the movie. There's no winning really. Some of the best reactions I've watched to my favourite movies have been where the reactor didn't feel the same way I did. Maybe that's just me tho. Anyway, hope you have a great weekend!
I completely understand. Thank you for taking the time to respond back. Means a lot. Hope you have a great weekend too. I'm sorry for not being observant at how many comments you interact with. You're very kind to do that, and I definitely encourage more react channels follow your example.
When you make 20 of these MCU interconnecting movies in the span of roughly 10 years, there's bound to be a few duds. Personally, I feel like there's 3 of them that fit this category and this film is NOT the worst one. I'll keep the other two to myself in order to not sway opinion one way or another as well as respecting your wishes for no spoilers in the comments. For the good of the whole journey, you need to watch them all anyways for recurring characters, etc. in the other films.
I've always been considered weird, but personally I've never understood why this movie wasn't liked more. I find it to be a very fun movie. Obviously not the best film ever but still a solid film with great roles done by Lokii and Thor. Edit: Just finished the reaction (had to go to work before I could) and yes I do agree the build up and then the final battle was a lil anti climatic. Still a fun enough movie and has someone said in another comment they get better from here I think. Anyway great reaction a usual! Another like from me! Can't wait until next one.
In the last kiss scene Natalie Portman had some family things to do so she couldn't do so the person kissing Chris Hemsworth is Elsa Pataky his wife who is a model but has done some movies like Snakes On A Plane and she was in the Fast and the furious as the police woman that was with Dwayne Johnson but end up with Vin Diesel for a little bit.
Yeah, this movie is really underwhelming in comparison to the others, easily the weakest of all Thor movies. But fear not!, for the next in line is Captain America: The Winter Soldier, with our boy Steve Rogers back in action. Can't wait to see your reaction on this one. 🙂
Hi Kaiielle!🙂I think the plot for this one is not the greatest. It can be very confusing at times, as to what is going on. The odds of Jane being involved in this one is extremely unlikely. Yes, they should definitely clone Heimdall. Cute BB8 mug! Great reactions to The Dark World film, Kaiielle!!!🎬👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
In that post post credits scene of Jane and Thor embrassing, fun fact, that was Chris Hemsworth's actual wife filling in! Natalie Portman couldn't be there at the time for some reason and they had his wife briefly fill in.. Needless to say it is probably the best kiss in the MCU
@@kaiielle Will say there are some pretty "hot" ones down the road, but as far as romance go.. can't beat the way a man and woman who truly love each other look at one another and ya know.. yeah lol. Makes me smile every time.
I had exactly the same take on the film with the sole exception that I always enjoy Darcy's scenes. Also like you, my least favorite MCU film (until relatively recently, but telling would be a spoiler.)💚
Fun fact- the kiss at the end wasn’t between Chris Hemsworth and Natalie Portman, but it was between him and his wife! I’m not sure exactly what happened there, but I think Natalie couldn’t come in for that shot so they substituted her with Chris’s wife. And yeah, this is one of my least favorite marvel movies. It has its funny and good moments, but Malekieth is a very underwhelming villain imo and some parts drag on a bit. But the parts with Loki and Darcy and Selvig are great!
Not a horrible movie, but not great. In the context of the larger series it's better than it is on its own, but even then it's pretty meh. Watching the date early in the movie, I just kept thinking "At least he doesn't have $#!+ on his head." (Watch The IT Crowd for reference.)
See, I didn't hate this movie as much as some people, it wasn't the best movie but in my opinion I feel like past movies have been worse. The ending was underwhelming though.
Odin is different mainly because of the loss of his wife. Anger took over, and he made him bitter. The story isnt very good yes , but the main thing is that because of conversion , the aether could "call" jane so he could have a body to occupie . but in general it is a very "not to much sense" story. The elves needed the universe in dark. why? the can live as it seems , in alight universe also! it is what it is . The Loki Thor relationship is gold and it saves the movie from being bad. 💚
Lmao, you're delusional. We all saw the cut scene where the narc, Odin, LET HIS WIFE DIE IN FRONT OF him to gain the power. He doesn't care about anyone but himself.
Certainly not one of the better MCU movies. Too many writers, too many changes of director, and too much messing around in post-production all helped to create a bit of a dud. Not a terrible movie, but by the standards Marvel had previously set definitely a bit of a letdown.
So.. The one thing that doesn't make sense about Erik and his mental disparity, he wasn't the only one under Loki's control in Avengers. Hawkeye/Clint was as well if you remember. And you could say well "Hawkeye is an Avenger, he's more mentally tough than Erik" but Erik is a super smart guy, and probably actually really mentally sound. And like Clint as far as is seen, didn't have really any negative affects from being under Loki's control. So just a little off.
Hi! I "watched" this one at a friend's T-giving get-together... didn't catch very much of it. All I really remember is hearing "Son of Coul" for the first time. So if I'm gonna watch this reaction, I might as well watch your Thor I one first! BBIAB!
Couldn't tell you! Remember we have to cut out a significant portion of the movie for these edits. It's likely that I didn't have a reaction to that line that I felt was worth keeping in and possibly didn't have any reaction at all.
I have long accepted that I'm in the minority of people that enjoy this movie. It's not perfect and there are things I won't defend (such as the complete waste of Chris Eccelston as Malekith). However I love the visuals, I liked exploring Asgard and the other realms with Jane, I love Darcy, and I found the final fight to be a lot of fun with them teleporting around.
Thor: The Dark World was one of the few hiccups of the MCU. Malaketh was LAME, Selvig's insanity was merely annoying and kinda stupid and it just...it didn't really work. And if your mystefied, they pulled a fast one on The Elves. Loki projected the ILLUSION of de-handing Thor, to try and get the drop on them.
The fact that you couldn't remember large parts of the movie *immediately after seeing it* speaks to why this is so many people's least favourite film in the whole franchise. Not here to hate on Thor 2 -- just saying that *I get it*.
this movie is so much better than so many other superhero movies like justice league 2016 Batman v Superman dawn of justice 2016 theatrical cut fantastic four 2015 wonder woman 1984 2020
Yeah, definitely a low point in the MCU for a lot of people. The MCU wasn't exactly known for having too many standout villains, but even then, Malekith is so dull. I watched a series called The Leftovers last year (incredible, by the way), and it became very clear just how wasted Christopher Eccleston was in this movie. Also crazy to think about is that Mads Mikkelsen and Benedict Cumberbatch were also possibilities for the role. Fantastic actors being courted for a role that I honestly think would make the same impact if they just got a tall stuntman to play it.
💚 of course I watched all the way to the end. Yeah... this one isn't the best of the bunch. It's awkward, and clunky, and at times the heavy hand of the writers is evident to the point of distraction. But... Loki is fun to watch in this. Well... he's always fun to watch. (He was a little full of himself in the Avengers, but it still worked.) Yeah. Well... I shall be looking forward to your next reaction. (I'm enjoying the ride. Thank you.) 💚
I agree that Odin's character in this one was under-written and under-...shown? He was only shown when he was the key to somebody else's scene, when really the he's in control of everything and has all the answers. Basically the whole movie's writing was holding on by its fingernails, and Anthony Hopkins' potential was one of the casualties. I agree that this movie is a bit scatterbrained, yet I never hated it. Superfans are rabid and when something doesn't match Iron Man, they flip out. I'm not offended that Dark World is like an average movie. Sorry for your hard month, keep enjoying reacting as we we enjoy you! 💚
Worst Marvel Movie up until Infinity War to me. I didn't like the whole trying to explain Magic with Science thing. The villain was lame. And Odin too. Overall the balance was off imo. It sets up a lot of future stuff though, so i guess you needed to watch it.
I would've considered this a spoiler but you've appreciated other comments saying it so; goes up from here! This was my only zzz like it was yours so far :)
Loki really had a chance to shine in this film. Otherwise the movie was overall very forgettable. I really disliked it on the first watch. Admittedly on following viewings I did find more to like, and there are a number of interesting things that could be built upon in the future but it is still a bottom tier film of the MCU. In the end this is in the bottom five of all MCU products so far (including TV series). Don't ask me what my other four are as that could be spoilers. 😄
Great reaction. A lesser entry in MCU canon for sure, but it has risen actually in my eyes on a few rewatches. It does have some clever moments. And emotion with Firgga's death. All in all I would rate it: 💚💚💚
Sad that you didn't pick up on how much Loki loved their mother. And that he was especially upset because he gave instruction on how to get to where they're going the fastest. A few seconds later and Thor maybe saves her
Or Odin, who was already IN THE room when Thor showed up, could've saved her if he killed the villains but he wanted the power that Jane had in her, so he let his own wife die for power that wasn't his.
💚 The only thing I really have to add concerns Odin. I think the difference between his portrayal in this movie and his portrayal in the previous one was that he was turned into a jerk for no obvious reason. Before, he was stern, even harsh, but you could still follow his logic even if you didn't agree. This time he's just being an ass for its own sake, like effectively calling Jane a goat. I feel like the previous movie's Odin would at least have asked why Thor thought to bring her to Asgard instead of an Earth doctor, but here he just had his guards kick her to the curb. As for the rest of the film--yeah. Just--yeah. I feel like the convergence as a whole should have been tossed out, so the other elements could be given more attention. But they weren't, so this is what we got.
Having said that...I found many problems with this particular story. The villain sucked. The overextended phasing from earth to a realm & back again became repetitive. This film felt like a place card between films. And, that’s why it’s in my bottom 3...
