Thor was holding back as well, he literally said himself in the fight " You mock me holding back like this." This nigga thor was just tryna bring the God of War outta that dude. He wasn't trying either.
@@Sonyoucef that's what I'm saying. That nigga literally screamed out of rage, and Thor ate that and started laughing. Sometimes I feel like kratos fans be looking down on Thor a little way to much.
@@RamizMFA and Thor was way weaker in the second fight. He was poisoned physically exhausted drunk and it is worse mental state and was already injured when the fight started
@J.D. Camp-walker he was weakened sure because of the poison but he wasn't drunk stop making things up. And he was not exhausted he was literally OP in the last fight.
Speed: Travel speed: Thor Combat speed: Kratos Stamina: Kratos >= Gods like Kratos has shown near irrelevant stamina, like compare him to Heracles who in the myths had to spend an entire year chasing an animal, and Kratos is stronger then him. Weapons: Kratos Leviathan Axe cancels Mjölnir, add on Blades, and he gets weapons. Endurance: Kratos Can endure Hel, which not even Odin can, and can endure the Light of Alfheim, a feat no other had done before.
I think that taking an axe in the gut 2 times and then later without having it stitched also getting stabbed 3 times again in that same place is a bigger endurance feat then those things you just said
@@luukstofberg7571 yeah that too but since he's an alcoholic he's bounded to have the beer belly But all that muscle and fat protected him from kratos getting to anything lethal
Just so you know, devs said kratos was holding back immensely, even thor was but not much. In the last fight thor unleashed all of his might against kratos who was only showing some of his rage and thor got defeated. Kratos didn't kill thor, he didn't want to.
Thor actually fighting Kratos at the end while being poisoned by the Eitr on the leviathan axe , and after defeating Jormungandr and holding Ragnarök at the same time. Also, Rafael Grassetti himself, the art director , confirmed in a podcast that Mjolnir is designed to be more powerful than the Axe. People really are looking Thor down.
@@Unknown-pq9gc It is said by the asgardians in The hall that someone was trying to poison Thor, and The Justice God Forseti was investigating. And that is the reason why Thor's Belly wound wasn't healing, since in God of War 4 it's stated that the poison was imbued in the Axe.
@@flamerune2079 I know but the Asagardians was saying that as a Theory not a actually statement and not once in the game Thor mentions or shown he was really getting weaker except going to back being a Alcoholic.
Finally i find edit with every single point right! Some dumbs will say: Kratos was holding back, but thor was holding back as well as Kratos. The god of thunder literally damaged the Ygdrassill tree that exists beyond the concept of time and reality with single punch, it just an multiversal feat! And he killed every single giant by only himself. And Kratos manipulated wit The World Tree only with Tyr Temple, but can not manipulate with it with only him and his weapon. But God of War has the infinity stamina and endurance. This battle ends with tie. Also, amazing edit! Keep it up, Kanqstar!🐐🔥🔥💣💣💯💯
kratos got stabbed multiple times, nearly got conceptually erased, was tortured by the furies, then tried to kill himself.... you we're saying? kratos neg diffs in endurance
Kratos was holding back on all the fights but Thor was severely drunk, in the worst possible mental state, and much more. Thor at his peak should absolutely annihilate young kratos and maybe older kratos
People gotta remember how much he’s holding back the dialogue even confirms it. “You insult me holding back like this”. He could have killed Thor more than once but was avoiding it as much as he could.
It's literally confirmed that they were both holding back in the first fight, since Thor just wanted to see kratos rage then leave, in the 2nd fight tho he was bloodlusted and it ended in a stalemate, so kratos at full power would beat Thor high diff
@@jakehalle3697it’s not just a matter of holding back, it’s how he fights. old kratos was gouging mofos eyes out n tearing them limb from limb. It’s like a Jedi vs sith with how much of a difference it is
Strenght Kratos:Kratos lifted the Tyr temple also known as 9 realm,he also Avoided getting crashed by cronos in Gow 3 and lifted Colossus huge foot and threw him like a ball,He also defeated a lot of Gods that scale To multi or outerversal such as zeus,thanatos and more Results:Infinite-immesurable strenght Speed Kratos:Kratos easily here,Kratos dodged helios light which is easily 299,792,458 mps,which is crazy he also dodged zeus lightning bolt which is about the same mps,he also matched with the speed of thanatos(God of death) who existed before time and space,meaning his faster than time itself,which scales to irrelevant speed and if kratos matched that which he did it means kratos has irrelevant speed irrelevant>immeasurable>infinite. Stamina: Kratos:Kratos Survived and endured God of war 1,2 and 3 without stopping or taking a break. Weapons: Kratos:Blades of Chaos Blade of Artemis Blade of the Gods Blades of Athena Barbarian Hammer Spear of Destiny Blade of Olympus Gauntlet of Zeus Sun Shield Chains of Olympus Blades of Exile Claws of Hades Nemean Cestus Nemesis Whip Apollo's Bow Arms of Sparta Thera's Bane Blades of Hades Blades of Poseidon Blades of Zeus Leviathan Axe Guardian Shield Talismans Spartan Axe Chisel Draupnir Spear Hofud AP Kratos >=:kratos moved pandoras box he also lifted and throwed many large boulders also he defeated Many huge titans as cronos atlas colossus and more also he has so much rage as we all know Hax Kratos:power of Hope,time manipulation,soul manipulation,fire manipulation aka Theras bane,life absorption,death resistance and resurrection and way more Endurance Kratos:im tired of writing,so ima just say that kratos endured surviving mortal wounds such as life threatening injuries,beaten by the Gods yet he stills continues to fights,climbing out of hell(hades),kratos has survived and escaped hell through many times (3-4),he has also endured many philosophical and emotional times but i aint gonna write all that. Winner? Kratos:No-Low diff We all know kratos wins no to low diff if he actually doesnt hold back,i know his true divine power.
In terms of overall physical prowess I believe they’re overall very similar with Kratos taking strength and Thor durability and endurance. I think Kratos wins not out of physical superiority but more due to his intelligence and raw skill while Thor focuses too much on power and instinct
I never understood where the holding back bs came from not one guy can tell the source of whether kratos is holding back or not. They always say Cory Barlow said but not one of them know where he said it because they just read some one on the internet saying kratos was holding back and believed him/her
I swear, people overlook Thor. Man was drunk the entire game and his first encounter with kratos, he killed him, and proceeded to bring him back to life because he wanted to have a fight. He only lost to him after he was tired, even more drunk, and raged at him for his problems that Odin manipulated him to direct at kratos. Like the guys insane and shouldn’t be overlooked.
Wake up to reality Strength-Kratos Speed-Thor Durability-Kratos Stamina-Kratos IQ & BIQ-Kratos Exp-Thor Agility-Kratos Weapons-Kratos Abilities-Thor Combat & skill-Kratos Winner??? Kratos High diff
Wake up to reality, thor killed Kratos in the 1st match and before you say (he was holding back🤓) who the fuck holds themselves to the point where they let themselves die when they know they have to protect they're son
@@levivent1499 just to let you know he was holding back cause if he lost control he would have killed him first off and he doesnt want to kill gods in fear of what the consequences would be second of he didn’t want to kill him cause he didn’t want to destroy the Norse realm if kratos could kill Odin he could kill thor
@@fishingfishtankswithstevea3246 There goes that stupid ass excuse, I really want to hear why you think Kratos would pick to die and leave Atreus with the Aesir instead of "not holding back" and saving his kid kratos had the help of freya and atreus while fighting odin the thor vs kratos fights have always been 1v1's so don't try to bring odin into this when odin was greatly outnumbered
@@levivent1499 kratos didn't know that odin would do something to atreus but the moment thor said "you're boy? the all-father has plans for him" kratos instantly broke his teeth thor stated in GAMEPLAY "you insult me holding back like this" even after thor temporarily killed kratos meaning yes kratos was still holding back even after he died it was actually confirmed by the devs that odin is actually comparable to zeus and Cory confirmed that old kratos is much stronger than young kratos who killed zeus meaning if kratos wasn't holding back then he would've been Able to solo odin it was stated by cory that kratos mostly holds back because he doesn't want to be his old bloodlusted self and also wants to put a good example for atreus to grow even by the time of final battle kratos was still holding back against a full power and bloodlusted thor who is physically much more stronger than odin considering kratos wasn't even trying to kill him, as he was just trying to convince thor that odin is the enemy
the most stupidest thing is not reading the lore and realize that kratos strength is scaled higher than thor cuz he was holding back the whole time fighting fp thor in the final battle
@@AmsyarBrosku you’re right tho Kratos lifted the 9 realms in gow 4. If Kratos really wanted to kill Thor he would have done it!! Who ever thinks thor is stronger get your brain checked pls
Yeah but that's only because Kratos is now older and more wise. Young Kratos had Spartan rage and wouldn't have stopped fighting until he had Thor's head
Just so you know Kratos was holding back and never uses full strength. And weapons goes to Kratos because the Leviathan axe was specially made to counter Mjolnir.
Thor was also holding back in the first fight In their second fight thor had just fought the world serpent and was poisoned while Kratos came in fresh and with the leviathan axe, the blade of chaos and draupnir....
Thor was weakened during their last fight because of fighting Jörmungandr and he was drunk, that's why kratos was able to get the upper hand. But if they had a rematch after that without them holding back Kratos will have a tough challenge.
People use the logic that kratos was holding back but nah fam, its close but thor stomps in the end. Kratos is a powerful god but thor is just a beast. He was destined to kill kratos at ragnarok, too
Personally I think it should be a tie between them but I mean I respect you giving your opinion which is rare in a sea of diehard kratos fans that just sit there and beat off to him 👍
i respect you're comment, but it was confirmed by the creators themselves that kratos has been holding since the very beginning of the norse saga plus kratos wasn't even trying to kill thor in the final battle, that's why it's much likely kratos was holding back (btw Cory confirmed that kratos still had a bit of power of hope with him so fp kratos would've destroyed thor) not trying to be rude or anything but there are actual statements from the creators and official novels/lore that confirms these things
@@AmsyarBrosku but he thing is it takes away from the premise of the game. It’s like two huge equal titans fighting and it’s super cool and shit but people get angry when the one they like isn’t dominating because they don’t understand a good fight is a fair one. So yeah people say he is holding back but like what’s the point then if kratos puts all this blood sweat and tears into a fight and it appears equal cause I mean look, kratos sure doesn’t look like he’s holding back, but to keep the diehard kratos fans happy they devs need to come out and say, no don’t worry the guy you stan is still at the top
@@shinupthomas461 he's still weaker plus thor doesn't have any feats comparable to kratos like destroying an entire pantheon of conceptual gods btw when tf did mimir say that, i platinum trophy the game and i have never heard him say that 🗿
This mf sent a world-size snake back in time in a single blow, travel and move at the speed of lightning with his hammer and you still think those points are not deserved
@@josemarialeongonzalez5183kratos resisted being crushed by colossus of rhodes and by the two strongest titans cronos and atlas, atlas was said to hold up the weight of the world and the heavens which is stated to be infinite and this was only young kratos's feats when he was still around 50+ back in Greece , not to mention that he killed the entire Greek pantheon thats even stronger than the norse and possesses greater magic💀 , and its also said that greek gods gradually become stronger as they age and kratos is around 1000+ now, there's no doubt hes stronger than thor lol
Idk Kratos didn’t seem that fast when I played ragnarok at least compared to Thor who could jump long distances and was flying all over the place when fighting Jormungandr
@@rawand-adib6263 bullied? Thor playing with Kratos with one blow of the hammer stopped his heart, in the final battle he was drunk, even so giving a parity fight to Kratos
@@rajturkar205 why are you even mentioning the first fight, both of them were clearly suppressed and holding back unlike their final fight in asgard were thor was bloodlusted and using his full power and kratos was also holding back but not as much as their first fight + kratos wasn’t killed but only knocked out in their first fight
@@gianna-rm9if I would say Thor has better combat expereince, agility, and combat. Thor is older, so he would have moee combat experience since he's been fighting giants and monsters under odin for decades. That includes combat itself as well.
Strength, AP, and Endurance goes to Kratos and he wins Mid-High Diff. To anybody defending Thor remember that Kratos was stated to be holding back the ENTIRE game which means he was still holding back when he knocked Thor’s tooth out with one punch.
@@jadpro-gamer3402 kratos Punch Thor with all of his strength in the first fight at the end and Thor laughed it off like it was nothing and kratos never physically overpowered Thor
Physical attributes goes to Kratos, strength also because he has more feats, weapons he has more, Blade of chaos >>> Mjōrnir, speed Thor, Qi, Qi Battle kratos, combat Kratos, combat Speed Thor
@@ca-qe5om why are you acting like you never played the game when Kratos literally beat him and odin who even one shoted thor (I know he was off guard but still💀)
@@ca-qe5om mf you must be either retarded or blind, kratos literally clashed with thor in the final battle while not even trying to kill him (thor was actually trying to kill him)
obviously you don't much about the fanbase, 90% of the entire fandom would disagree on this video considering the scans and literal statements from the devs and in-game, thor himself said kratos was holding back
For Kratos Kids watch GOW Ragnarok Closely At Their Fight Thor Killed Kratos For A second Then Revived him with His Hammer Because Thor Wanted to See The Real GOD OF WAR Then The Round 2 Started 🔥 🔥
kratos who was holding back, obviously you didn't play the game correctly cuz if you didn't know thor literally said "you insult me holding back like this" bruh you guys are dumbasses
For strength and speed I agree, however, Leviathan is supposed to be the equal of Mjolnir, with the blades of chaos and Draupnir, Kratos has much more powerful weapons than Thor's hammer.
Weapon:Thor: one Mjolnir Kratos: Blade of Chaos axe Draupnir.Guys, what are you talking about, blades alone are enough to carve out an entire pantheon, because they are a conductor of the primordial force, which is beyond all knowledge, I repeat, what kind of Mjolnir are you talking about, the blades will outplay Mjolnir easily, what are you talking about?
Mjolnir is better than all of those three, Leviathan Axe is supposed to equal Mjolnir but its because the great defense capabilities of the Axe counter Mjolnir's insane Offense capabilites, but Mjolnir is better overall because of the Offense and Abilities being better than the Axe's.