Thoughts on my new 3Sixty Foldable Bicycle & why I got this instead of a Brompton or Pikes 

Appreciate the comments! Just sharing my own thoughts. Hope you found it useful! 🙂

Appreciate you taking the time to leave me these words Prashant. 🙂

Appreciate the kind words Louis. You take care and stay safe too! Keep us posted when it's new bike day for you! :D

i would not spend that much on a tiny little bike. people are smarter nowadays knowing that a lot of things are way overpriced and stopped brand worshiping. it's pretty much a status symbol of bikes for older people and status symbol is cringe

Appreciate the kind words!

Haha I'm 100% guilty.

Thank you, glad it helped in some ways!

Thank you for leaving your comments, glad it helped somehow. More importantly, hope you'll have lots of fun with your new ride! 😉👍

Thank you for your comments, good to know you're enjoying your ride. Thank you for the cool tips too!

Appreciate the kind words, it's encouraging. I appreciate your comments too, they're objective. I share the same view that it hopefully it will spur innovation or at least a more efficient way of manufacturing to drive the prices down. But again, I'm sure I'm oversimplifying things. And yes, I also agree that it will take some time to discover the reliability of this, hope it lasts, fingers crossed! 😁

where are u from?

@@sufrihadi UK. Why?

@@ODOB just want to know where the expensive bikes are

@@sufrihadi The original version is Brompton made in London, England.

Thank you, unlikely will do one soon. But great so far! 😁👍

@@fredphua any comment as compare to Pikes?

Hope it is useful. Appreciate the kind words. 😄

Thank you Abegail, hope it's useful.

Appreciate your kind words! Pleasure's mine. :)

Cool, glad you're enjoying your ride!

How much is your total costs after the upgrades? I spent 300+ for the upgrade of my trifold bike (600+).

Appreciate the kind words, meanwhile stay safe amidst this pandemic. 🙏😊

Appreciate the kind words Jennie.

Thank you for the tip! Do you mean adjusting the seat's Aft & Fore to get the distance? Or do you mean tilting the handle bar slightly forward?

Thank you for your encouragement. Stay safe!

There'd be more foldies that will come by in our lives, fret not. :D Meanwhile, enjoy your bike! I'm sure it's a good choice too.

Hey, appreciate this comment.

Hey Chris, thank you for your comments. Yeah, there will always be advocates in both camps and I guess it all boils down to individual priorities. I hope you'll manage to find your ideal bike soon... whatever it is I am sure you will enjoy it. Meanwhile stay safe! 😀

Thank you Alan, but that would mean more mods on my ride! 😁😁 Jokes aside, thankful for the encouragement.

Thank you for sharing your views on the 2. You have owned both, and would have ridden them for a longer time, I'm sure your views would be more accurate than mine. Haha and yes Faz for the win! 😁

@@fredphua Brompton must really take care. Clean every outing to prevent corrosion. For 3sixty with the same material don't need too much care. I just wash it once a month.

@@mohdsabrijanuri thank you for sharing. May I ask if it is because B seems to be more prone to corrosion or is it because of a higher price point, therefore the extra care? Just trying to understand. :)

@@fredphua higher price point is 1 thing.. Corrosion is the same.. Only I realise my 3sixty, inner frame tube also they put paint coating that can prevent from corrosion as well.. My Brompton inner tube can see the corrosion after wash

@@mohdsabrijanuri thank you for the insights. I wouldn't have had long enough exposure with a B to know this. Interesting!

Thank you for your comment Jessy. Yes, I have the same concern about it being a white elephant so went with this. But so far, proven to be more than sufficient for leisurely scenic rides. Hope your ideal ride soon! 😁👍

@@fredphua Hi Fred, may I know your 3sixty model pls? Thanks

@@jessylee1243 hey Jessy, I just have a normal 6 speed m bar model. Hope this helps.

Hopefully this stands the test of time. 😁

Thank you Nancy, I am glad it helped you somehow. I'm sure you'll be happy with your new bike, and maybe just purchase it from a shop that can support you on the maintenance front. You'll be in good hands. Also, don't forget to join the 3Sixty Facebook Group where many helpful users share many useful tips, I've learnt a lot from everyone there. 😀👍

@@fredphua Is it the FB page 3sixty Owners SG? I am really looking forward to owning a 3sixty!

@@nancypangkl oh yes, that's the page. Very awesome community, makes the whole experience much morr fun. More than enough members to help with maintenance issues if you ever run into any. :)

Thank you for your comment. I especially appreciate your thoughts on objectivity. Though this video is not a 1:1 comparison but rather centered around the introduction of my new bike and sharing my own thought process to distill the choices in the market, I'd still think any attempts by anyone (even with the best intentions) to make a 1:1 comparisons will still be open to subjectivity to varying extents because it will encapsulate one's opinions when drawing comparisons. The country of manufacture may explain the higher cost structure/price point in products, but at least in my opinion for this case, may not explain how it should naturally translate to superior quality that will Correspond/Align/Match the market premiums. I am not disagreeing with the superior quality (I love the build on the B!), but the question I struggled with is on the alignment i.e is it really that much better to justify 2-3x the price? I guess it all boils down to how much one is willing to pay for craftsmanship at the point of purchase which is subjective in itself. Objectivity - really quite an ideal. :) Thank you for getting me thinking, I love these conversations with my viewers, hope you don't find them boring. Enjoy your ride too (maybe together some day!), let's chat more on other subjects as they come. Have a great weekend. :)

Hope you're enjoying your bike! I haven't really gotten down the modification part though, let's hope I can stay "controlled". :D

Hey Patricia, pleasure's mine. There's some adjustability to the seat height etc, and I'd think you'd be well within comfortable range at 165cm. This is also really good to bring up public transport, so I'd think it fits your criteria well. One suggestion would be to go down to retailers of different brands (Brompton, Pikes, 3Sixty etc) to try them out to see if which you like best before committing. Hope this helps! ;)

Saying Hi from Singapore! More importantly, wishing that everyone stays safe and healthy in PH!

Hey got it from the bike shop I bought this. There are also options on Aliexpress. Hope it helps.

Thank you for your kind words. Sorry I missed this comment, it kind of got buried in the sea of comments. I am from Singapore so I'm not sure if the information will be useful. In any case, I've gotten most of my parts online through the usual platforms and would fix it up myself. For more complicated modifications on my Foldie, I'd go to A.M Cycle (8870 7101) for help. A mobile mechanic and nice chap! If you're from SG too and would like to visit, say you're recommended by Freddie! :D

Hope you and your wife are enjoying the ride! More importantly, it allows for quality conversations while riding together! 😉👍

Haven't done my research on the exact jumps. But they are using the S-RF3 hubs, so theoretically the jump gaps should be about 20-30+% between each if memory serves me right? Just basing on riding experience alone without the math, I'd say the jumps are quite high. I'd get complacent on an uphill sometimes and overshift, before long... my whistling stops and I start to struggle a little. hahaha

@@fredphua Thanks. I don't know what the exact ratios are, either. It's like you said, 6 speed is more than acceptable for commuting. Anyhow, maybe I'll discuss with my dealer what exchanging the two front chainrings can do for me. The two gears in the middle are great though, I use those 90% of the time.

Hey Casper, thank you so much. I mostly DIY but for more complicated stuff which I'm not confident of, I'd seek help from A.M cycles in my description box. Been using Alan for years, now more of a friend. 😊

Yeah, but not sure how it'll take touring. I saw some of your vids and it already makes me miss travelling on bikes! Was supposed to go to Hokkaido for cycling trip before the whole pandemic, shall ask for some tips the next trip if you don't mind! :D

@@fredphua I really want to Cycle Hokkaido! We were set to go to Europe to ride for 6 months before cv19 came along.. Yeah no problem i learnt a lot from folding bike touring i love it!!!

Thank you so much. Haha I'm impressed by how attentive some of the folks are. A few of the viewers actually noticed, it's a Nike Air Rift by the way. Check it out! ;)

@@fredphua Thx Fred - Keep on reviewing!

Thank you for the comments Ida. To be fair, I did mention that I thought the finishes of the Brompton is better but I just wasn't sure if it was enough to justify the price point. But do check out both and come to your own conclusion. Many differing views on this, so really just my own view. Happy bike hunting. 🙂👍

Hey JJ, thanks for this. I'm not sure exactly what's wrong, but could it be the position of the "hook" in front? Anyway, you'd have better luck in the FB group. All the troubleshooting gurus are in there. :D

Hey Hannah, I think it's a good review and in fact, it was one of the first few videos that got me looking more seriously into the tri-fold design bikes. Kudos to Everyday Cycling.

Found your info. TQ

Thank you Keith, grateful for this comment. Share the same view, we are only enjoying our rides and the process of modding it. 😊👍

Can u recommend me who can do the upgrade for me Java velo 20 inches to Hallotech crank & chainring etc

Hey Simon, thank you for your comments. The stuff that I've done so far doesn't affect the geometry in any way. I've just gotten my longer seat post and handlebars to fit better on the bike, but I think the cost for these items are pretty manageable. Short answer is that, comparatively I don't think I'll save on upgrading if I've chosen a Pikes. Most stuff I've done are not out of absolute necessity anyway :D Hope it helps.

Thanks Fred, I have kinda decided I will go with 3sixty. Enjoyed your videos so far. Keep up the good work!

@@simongoh5580 thank you and glad it helped in some ways. Be sure to join the FB group which is an awesome community. Meanwhile, enjoy the miles on your upcoming new bike! 😁👍

@@fredphua yes I have joined the 3sixty and Pikes groups. Useful tips always for noobs like me

Hey Gary, I got it from A.M cycles in my description box. I am going to talk about tyres soon, but in short I like the threads that are good in the wet. Tempted to try the Ones though! 😊

Marathon racer for all-round use with puncture protection. Ones for those who prioritize speed.

Hey Jud, for short errands (eg buying food) I have the preference of locking it while I do the run. Very lazy to fold/unfold 😁

Hey Karl, it's just Freddie man... not sir. It seems quite close, but not close enough to be a concern I'd say that's why I haven't paid much attention to this. Yours giving you an issue?

Hey Linus, glad to know you've gotten your new ride and congratulations! I bought a higher handle bar and seat post but haven't got down to installing it. Hahaha procrastination gotten the better of me. In the next video you'll see I have a whole bunch of minor stuff to install still, but I'll get there soon! Btw If you get the parts, I think you can either DIY or any Mechanic would be able to assist you easily. ;)

@@fredphua Hi Fred.. i am a tall dude too.. i wonder how should i go about getting it? I buy the bike from Fazzbike and then separately take it to Alan?

@@eddygoh4768 hey Eddy, I have a separate video on how I adjusted my positioning. You don't need to go to any specific mechanic or shop, I think it's more about getting the right parts. You might want to check out the Vid on how I fit myself on the bike for more context about what I'm referring to? Hope it helps.

1) nope, seens fine for me. 2) well, I don't see why not. It's a matter of duration. 3) yeap, there are bar options out there. 4) yes. 😉

Interesting, I didn't know about the steel grade!

can refer to brompton website, brompton frame is not even low grade hi ten steel, it is mild steel

Lower grade not Low grade.

Thank you Kangand. I left the contact in my description box, hope it helps. :)

Thanks for your comment. Tough one trying to quantify with data in my upcoming video, so it's going to be very opinion based. :D Anyway, I had the Kojak and didn't like it in the wet. One looks very similar to the Kojak but with rotational thread (maybe improved grip in wet?) and being thicker, so it's something I'd like to try in future. I prefer to have something that's more all-weather without being too heavy (impact rotational mass), therefore the racer. I don't think the rolling resistance between the 2 is too far off too, given that the racer can pump up to a higher PSI to offset the higher rolling resistance by the threads a little. Anyway, probably won't feel much difference in the real world but with added grip in wet? ;)

Hey Ezekiel, thank you for your comment. I think this train of thought will be applicable, if I am switching out parts to those identical on a B. I haven't switched out any components to the stock B ones yet, nor am I expecting 1 in the near future. I'd think the parts I'm looking to switch or add, will be largely applicable with either choices (B or 3sixty or Pikes) so the costs will increase in tandem with the bike price as a base. So yeah, my thought process on this. ;)

Hey Kevin, exciting times to be moving and welcome in advance! If you're looking to buy a Brompton and prioritize the time needed to get one, maybe you could consider getting one in the US if they are available? Official channels here to get a Brompton has a long queue (a year in waiting list if I'm not wrong) and the alternative would be to buy from resellers at a premium. So might want to compare the prices and consider the local support before deciding? My 2 cents. 😉

Hey Mike, thank you. I have no experience with the Mobots, so probably not in a position to comment. 🙂

Hey Daron, thank you. I got it from Fazz360 where I got the bike. Check them out! 😉

Hi, no issues for me but I have seen some who reported on rust issues. :)

Hi, i gotten mine from the bike shop whom i purchased the bike from. I believe this is available online too ( aliexpress, lazada etc). Cheers!

Well, I really hardly try to go fast on this. Just want to enjoy the scenery and clear my mind while on this. Maybe 10-15kph? 😁

Hi thank you for viewing this. Longest ride I've had is about 50km? Cumulative around 100+ close to 200km. Not sure about the exact weight, but I'd say ard 12kg by estimation.

Hey Antonio, I'm wearing a Nike Air Rift. Probably not the best option to address humidity, I only use it for super short rides and if I think I need to look cool 🤣. Anyway, check these out! Do let me know if you manage to hunt them down somewhere, been looking for another pair but no luck on my side. 😊👍

@@fredphua they look cool, yes :)

Hey Peter, thanks for the questions and I'll try my best to offer my views on them. I didn't really take a close look at the rack and mudguard but I guess as long as they are functional, it'll be good enough for most users and any difference should (in my view) not play a big role in ride quality. I've had mine removed from my new Avro bike for a sportier look 😁. I've ridden them over rough areas like gravel paths, but not for long. Not deliberately, but usually because they are part of the route I take. During the short distance, no major issues. Yes, i am super happy with my Avro with extermal gears for reasons described in my other video but thats just me. Many would prefer internal hub set ups, so really up to individuals. Hope this helps in your bike hunt!

@@fredphua Thank you for your help, now that that you have people that have let you bikes for reviews, it would be nice to see the difference between the Royale, Litepro, Mint, Pikes, 3sixty.. I know that it might be a lot, but interesting video comparison. About the gears, Internal or external, I dont really know the difference.

Hey, approximately SGD340 in total. Hope this helps.

@@fredphua thanks so much for ur reply. Really nice bike.. I recently just bought the same bike. It's great

@@emoemoleb my pleasure. I got it from A.M cycle in my description below, honest chap. And I'm sure you are enjoying your ride! I find myself going everywhere with it.. hahaha enjoy!!

Hey Wee Giap, mine seems fine. If you are worried, many folks actually install a wheel extender to balance it. Basically, it is an extendable shift for the small wheels to widen the base, providing stability. Check it out! 😊

@@fredphua I see. Didnt know that. Thanks. Ill check it out.

Hey David, apologies. I realized I forgot to reply to this. Appreciate the feedback, gotten a wireless mic after this first vid :D . As for the items required for the fit, I'd say major online platforms (Lazada, Aliexpress etc) sell them in different specs. I can't recall the exact price, but I think it can range from 30+ bucks to over 100+, depending on material/brand etc. Just prowl through the sites and I'm sure you can find something that suits your needs. :)

@@fredphua Hey Fred... thanks for your kind reply and for the info on purchasing those upgrading options. appreciate your reply.

So great!!! Keep safe!!!

Hi Eric, thank you for dropping by. I got mine from Fazz360 instead of a online. They do tune ups and checks before delivery, with frame warranty. So I went with them. Hope you find your dream bike soon! 👍

@@fredphua Hi Fred , thank you for your prompt reply 🙏🏻😃 , I’ll go and get mine from them too … 😃 love your reviews on bikes .. 👍😃

Hey thanks for dropping by. I guess there are many ways around what to modify depending on what you're looking to get out of the ride. Do join the respective forums, I think you can get more inspiration from users there. :)

Hey I made a video addressing some of the issues I had with the fit. May not be 100% applicable, but hope some aspects will. Cheers.

Hey Prashant, I have bought it for some time but haven't installed it and have procrastinated on this video on the seatpost + handlebar the longest. Shall get down to doing it! :D

@@fredphua Lovely. Following your channel :)

Thank you. 😊

So cool!!!

I've just went to do a search and it does look like an awesome piece of machine!

I thought of buying humming bird bicycle also, just concerned on the after sales service after purchasing online.

@@chenkiapng I'm actually selling mine if you are interested. The reason is that I got into kick biking instead and rarely use it.

@@100toeface please let me know how to contact you.

Appreciate the kind words Christopher, pleasure to be sharing my own opinions. 😊👍

Hey Julian, I've just checked back on my orders and realize it's no longer available. Sharing for ref though: www.aliexpress.com/item/4001124796110.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.dcd44c4d9x9xie

Thank you for dropping by, happy to share my thoughts on my bike. Do take a look and test ride both first before making the call, might have a clearer view of your preference after that. My 2 cents and happy hunting! 😉👍

Thanks for leaving a comment. These are made of Steel. I've seen some Titanium ones around but haven't got the opportunity to try any of those.

Thank you! Haha not sure why too, maybe it's because I switched back and forth between selfie/normal mode. Noob mistake.

Thank you for your comment. I have a different experience on this and will lean towards the opposite analogy. I actually made a video to show I generically bike fitted myself to this. But well, that's just me. Hope you'll find a way to solve your comfort issues soon!

Thanks for the comment Sherlin. Indeed, I had the same concern of my foldable bike becoming a white elephant (happened to be twice already! :D ) after dropping a huge sum of money on it. I think I'm quite happy with the utility of this vs the price I paid, happy so far. To your question on lighter versions, I've seen other people put on a bunch of titanium stuff on it (Fork, rear triangle, carbon wheels) on their 3sixty to bring the weight down but I'm not familiar with ride quality etc since I haven't ridden one. Happy hunting!

Sorry, I haven't tried. I usually go like 12-15kph average on this, super slow rides. 🐌🤣

Hey thank you for dropping by. I have no recollection of any clicking sound that continued to run after I stop pedaling. Not sure if I get the question correctly, hope it helps.

@@fredphua hello. My question is not after you finish pedaling, but during you are pedaling. A clic...clic...clic sound from the gear hub at the center of the rear wheel...sorry if my question is not clear, I'm not fluent ;-)

@@mattiuzzididier8911 ah, no no, dont apologise for fluency. 😉 Yes, I have the same clicking sound when I pedal. That comes from the internal hub which engages the gears a little differently. Hope this helps