Deb Armstrong, thank you to you and Bobby for this very informative tutorial of short radius turn etiquette. The physical descriptions, the technical descriptions, and the step by step specific instructions on how to make this turn correctly. If we all had started 30+ years ago with these very well articulated instructions, we wouldn't have spent decades skiing incorrectly. We pick up so many bad habits, too fast, what we see in movies, versus just good basic dedicated technique. To you and Bobby thank you very much. "It doesn't have to be fast, it just has to be good".
TY for making a series on mogul skiing. There are lots of misconceptions floating around on this type of skiing. Kudos for having B Aldighieri to dispel some them and more importantly explain some of the mechanics in skiing the zipper line. Aldighieri is a legend, he has about done it all in this sport.
Deb and Bobby - Thank you! Seems to me that you teach fundamentals of skiing which are so important everywhere on the mountain. Not just moguls. I've watched most of your videos and I believe they've helped me become a better skier and better skiers have more fun! I'll keep watching! Ski Sugarbush ;)
Awesome. In each of Deb's videos I find some new useful tip to apply or drill to work on. Bobby is such a good skier he can't really fake being bad :-)
Aloha Deb, You inspired me in the Olympics! Happy to see you connected with my former US teammate and Olympian Bobby. He is a great coach because he is super passionate about skiing and cares about the athletes he coaches. Please give him my best. In the words of our former US Ski Team coach Park Smalley, "Keep on keeping on!" Maggie
Fantastic Deb and Bobby. Just love the way you guys break it down and how Deb just asked the the right questions too Bobby. Big thumbs up from England 👍
Hi Deb, I'm so excited about this video! It turned the light on in my brain instantly and learn I learned a tremendous amount from such a short video! Bobby showing right and wrong said so much! Thanks, Barry
I love your lessons. You have such a nice way of giving helpful advice without making me feel dumb or weak. I'm going on a ski trip in two weeks and will definitely be using your techniques. Thanks!
Deb...absolutely terrific stuff. Thank you for asking Bobby to be a part of your instruction/channel. The complete, detailed instructions and description are fantastic. I was reminded of when people/instructor would say "complete" your turn -- to me, what does that mean? As a former collegiate athlete and D1 coach (different sport, of course), but a late starting, high-intermediate level skier, I always ask a lot of questions. It is easy to tell someone to complete an action, but it is difficult to describe the initiation of an action and the reasons thereof. Thank you again.
This is a great follow up lesson to your inside leg video and first mogul video with Bobby. I really like the way the idea of making short radius turns on the flats was employed and emphasized. You got to practice the way you want to ski. Drills build skills. Thanks for your great work and video instructions.
I like the term “foot to foot skiing.” That’s a good way to remember the technique. Videoing him from behind and slowing it down was extremely helpful. Heading to Park City in a few days, I’m going to watch this video multiple times before I go.
Deb - love your channel and videos, some of the clearest and easiest to follow ski instruction videos ever seen online and i have been involved in the industry for over 10 years! Would love to get this content out in front of our client base!
So few seem to understand the key part of turn initiation is uphill ski / uphill edge pressure. Smooth, powerful, connected, balanced, and can be done very quickly if needed (old school we called that “up unweight”). Also great description of core activation in turns. Enjoyed - thanks!
I am so happy that you mation lifting what will become new outside ski. I like this technic it make skis turn really quick and clearly without any problem. And it helps in bomps and moguls.
Hey Deb and Bobby, I've been watching your mogul videos. I love the technical description and thanks to your videos, I've been improving a lot this year. I Ottawa, Montreal, Quebec areas.
Finally! A coach which finally emphasizes the importance of early weight transfer onto the uphill ski. Thank you! Could you make a followup video about how to smear the skiis to ski in moguls or tight corridors? Lots of videos about pivot slips on the internet but not many go into the detail about how to flatten the skiis and weight distribution between the feet at the different points in the turn.
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Yup. I've watched all your videos! You're one of the few coaches that explain the concept of inside leg and foot to foot transfer really well.
Thanks for posting these videos and the effort you put into making them. They really help and are a great resource for learning. Thanks so much...one day one day I'll be there :)
Deb, Dadou and Alain @ TSV have both been teaching to initiate turns with rotation of the inside ski off the spine and "allowing" the outside ski to follow it. I find it a novel concept and very effective alternative movement. BTW, it was wonderful meeting you at the women's ski week. Your groups were all over the mountain and having a lot of fun!
5:49 to 5:57 on video the pole plants are being made somewhat close to the ski tips. Pole taps or pole plants to close to the ski tip instead of down the hill will make it harder to keep the body square to the hill. The more the skis are angled across the fall line the more important to plant the pole down the hill & not @ the ski tip to hold counter through the turn.
This is all the about learning the non-intuitive stuff which you don't know it's right (feels right) until you actually do it. Good stuff! Start with the brain and work your way down. Thanks, Deb!
Have been binge watching your videos, Deb. 1st of season was promising but lack of fresh snow (Red Lodge Mtn) has made me an arm chair skier lately. Pinch the grape will be my new mantra..
This is how I learned, body facing down the fall line and "foot to foot" and new downhill ski, coupled with stable traverse and side slipping techniques when required.. I am still not getting the advice for 60:40 downhill ski:upper ski; seems contrary to this. Guess I will stick to this rather than worry about my uphill ski; seems to work and seems a foundation for mogul skiing. There is hope.😍
This was awesome. I'm a yoga instructor and skier, and this actually ties together yoga concepts with skiing - particularly core engagement, using obliques, and proper vertical stacking - upper body positioning. Great stuff.
Step on your uphill ski - love that to explain the initiation of the ski - (Will be practicing this weekend - while I teach a 4 year old - (Hands on his knees - to push into his next turn) - Love it Deb - had to Applaud ya because long time - first time :)
I don't like that way of explaining It. I would say It's a rather poor pick as an analogy, when you do that "grape pinching" It leads to the spine being bent laterally. This is not what our spine is biomechanically designed for, It can cause issues on the long run putting our vertabrae on a weak position to deal with sudden forces hitting us, like when skiing bumps. Having the lats engaged and good leg turning creates a stronger and more functional position due to respecting physiological movement of the spine and maintaining a better overall alignment.
Also, there is a lot of engagement of the Quads, adductors and abductors. The tight stance thru the bumps works best as compared to a more open parallel stance. Fitness is key !
Interesting information in the two videos with BA, with him speaking about not being very "edgy" with more smearing turns, but in the fundamentals video, he is demonstrating that "pinch" turn that engages quite a bit of edge. I'll practice in the groomers to find the right balance between the two.
See that video first time, so my comment is a bit late 😉 Bobby is great. But he tricks a little bit at 3:14 min. After changing the leg he pulls the inside foot towards the outside leg. It‘s just a real small movement, but it obviates to fall inside especially with the hip. This makes the early load change to the new outside foot much easier. It is no mistake (of course), but it helps 😉 My opinion: to learn the early load change, a skier should learn how to adept the upper body to the gradient first. Because in my opinion this is the main aspect for average skiers to be balanced enough to learn an early load change. If we talk about experts, no question, you‘re definitely right.
Good video. You should do one on kid/dad jokes. I use them in every lesson but after a while my kids have heard them all. The true measure of a good ski instructor is how many silly jokes they have lol
My biggest problem in close packed moguls is getting onto the uphill edge before the bottom trough of the mogul. Usually I hold the lower ski and eat the second mogul because once in the trench there is no room (or time) to get the uphill ski flexing into the turn. Maybe I should go with a shorter (than 180’s) ski. Multi turns at high speed on flat are just what I do for leg conditioning.
I ski bumps a lot. Killington is pretty much the gold standard of bump skiing and we have a saying, it’s not that you can’t ski bumps its that you can’t actually really ski. Bumps are like truth serum, it will bring out all your flaws.
@@mtadams2009 I see - it's the gold standard in terms of difficulty. But to your main point, isn't it possible to be great at, say, carving turns on flat terrain and skiing powder, crud, steeps and variable terrain, but not be great at skiing moguls? Why is mogul skiing necessarily the be-all/end-all of skiing?
@@humanbeing2420 I think if you’re truly good at all of those other aspects of skiing you’re probably a decent bump skier. Most people who can’t bump are not really good at the fundamentals of skiing and that is why they struggle in the bumps. Most people I watch who struggle in the bumps are skiing in the back seat or they are not proficient at short tight turns. They lack snap in their skies.
Deb, I’m an old-guy skier from the South (so I don’t get on the slopes a lot) but your videos are great and much appreciated. Really beneficial is your focus on fundamentals. I teach flying taildraggers (it’s a hobby) where fundamentals are everything so I deeply appreciate that. Bobby does an excellent job here conveying what works. Just putting you or him in my mind’s eye and following you down a slope is what I’ll be doing in three weeks at Whitefish. Can’t wait!! I thoroughly love your videos! And BTW, when I began skiing I studied the videos of Lito Tejada-Flores. The “feet close together” style is beautiful (I see it in mogul skiing). What do you think about that form? Lastly, Bobby mentioned “unshaped skis” in the video. What would be an example of unshaped skis? Any you recommend? Thank you!!
Thanks for the thoughts and comment. As for "unshaped skis" just a ski with out a lot of shape to it. for example a slalom race ski has a lot of shape to it. A GS race ski has less shape. competition mogul skis do not have a lot of shape to them and they are a narrower ski.
In my opinion, Bobby’s reference to unshaped skis was for those young expert bump skiers who run the zipper line in the trench.That’s not you and me. Mere mortals do better drifting the back sides of each soft (we hope) bump, or drifting the tails up the faces to control speed. I found “Bumps for Boomers” helpful.
Deb was so happy at 3:10 when he stood on the uphill ski, "foot to foot skiing" as she has been demonstrating. What he didn't say, is he is tipping the downhill ski, isn't' he, Deb?
Hi Deb, thanks for all your beautiful videos! Regarding 3:10, this standing on the uphill ski confuses me. I have always been told that, during transitions, I should *extend forward* and *down* the hill. In contrast, here it seems the upper body moves *up* the hill.
but I believe (I am not an expert) that in the short-radius curve there is also a hip rotation transferred to the ski to facilitate the rhythm/speed of the curv-ing(?) and not just/only a transfer of weight from downhill to the other ski (i.e. outside ski in the curve), or am I wrong? Said so, the upper body position is essential to avoid loss of balance (which is my biggest problem in general)
It is quirky that the term “square” means the opposite whether referring to the skis or the fall line. Consequently, a ski pro should always clarify their use of the term, square. Also, in the case of alpine skiing, square means parallel rather than perpendicular which may further confuse clients. So, are we square?
How does one foot move to the other in the transition? It's been a mystery (for self taught and schooled skiers alike) on the specific input that magically changes direction. I have identified it in a simple move; make the outside leg a little bit shorter. This simple input will quickly have the skis turn back around. Every turn melts into the next with this. 😍 Skiing isn't about the turn, it's essence is turning THE OTHER WAY over and over again. 🤯 If you must have instantaneous response then I'll allow some rotary input. 🤔
I have been skiing bumps for over 45 years and continue to love big soft snow covered bumps now that I get annual month long ski trips to the mountains of B.C. Since my earlier days of zipper line bump skiing and staying square, balanced and level, all of the verbs(?) you used to describe how to zipper line a bump run, how about now when my radius is a bit wider and yes 90 degrees to the fall line to maintain speed on the extreme pitches. How can you possibly stay square to the fall line? If you are doing a 3 (or 4) bump wide line I dont believe you can stay square to the fall line but only square to your skis coupled with correct weight transfer. Is this a bad thing or am I not hearing you correctly? Fall line bump skiing is great for a short section of the run but with a severe pitch, add in some not ideal conditions and fall line bump skiing is not as simple as the demonstration provided in the video. Maybe age (63) and strength decline have just made me change my approach to the bumps… still love ‘em just not zipper line any more!!
Check this video out and i have a few more. Mogul skiing: tactics, pole plants, edging, rotary, teaching focus points ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jEzqxFemzPc.html
Dear Deb, in foot to foot skiing what is the amount of pressure between out- inside ski? Is it in percentage 80/20 or lower 70/30 or 60/40. And what about the hipwide stance. Do you have instructional advice in gaining a better stance? Thnx from the lowlands.
Hi Erik, not sure if you will ever read this, but the answer is that it varies throughout the turn and then also depends on conditions! Pressure should shift from around even during the transition and then increase through the turn before coming back to 50/50 at the next transition. I think your peak outside ski pressure should be somewhere between apex and transition for carved and skidded turns. A good way to figure out what peak pressure balance works best for you (or for the conditions) could be to try picking up inside ski towards the apex of turns (in one of Debs carving videos she has Wilson do this to get deeper into the turn I think) and then work backwards to nearly 60/40 peak pressure. I think you'll want more outside ski pressure the more firm the snow is. Deb could probably confirm/correct all of this, but not sure if she'll see a comment from a year ago!
How important is the width of your stance? Depending on the terrain, i can ski with my skis closer together. But other times my stance gets a little wider, especially if there is crud.
