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Three Unique Win Conditions 

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In this video, I briefly discuss what I consider to be the two distinct types of win conditions ("Soft" wincons and "Hard" wincons), and share three ideas I have for interesting wincons.

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@jaceg810
@jaceg810 Месяц назад
I don't think Rebbec is a great commander, since it gives your artifact protection from cmc, Protection means it cannot be targeted, that includes your artifact tokens by your name changing equipment, thus, it stifles your own win condition
@StragetyMTG
@StragetyMTG Месяц назад
Oh dang! You're completely right! Nice catch. Maybe I would use someone like Padeem, Consul of Innovation then. Still a shame though.
@DDrizzin
@DDrizzin Месяц назад
​@@StragetyMTG You could use Muzzio Visionary Architect or Arcum Dagsson
@ry7hym
@ry7hym Месяц назад
​@@DDrizzinmaybe even Slobad or Oswald Fiddlebender
@ardinhelme687
@ardinhelme687 Месяц назад
I have an entirely colorless artifact deck called "The Machine" that is just a bunch of these sort of soft win cons stacked on top of each other. It's got all of the modules from Kaladesh as well as the stations from Mirrodin, Mishra's self-replicator, and a bunch of modular and charge counter shenanigans. The deck is scarily effective because, while it's not necessarily doing anything game breaking most of the time, the amount of recursion and generically good artifact synergies lets it just chug along until it out values the table or hits one of its incredibly janky infinite combos.
@VinceOfAllTrades
@VinceOfAllTrades Месяц назад
I'm always looking for good non-eldrazi colorless decks, would you mind posting a list?
@ardinhelme687
@ardinhelme687 Месяц назад
@VinceOfAllTrades sure, though I should warn you that this thing is riddled with pet cards. As I said, it is scarily effective, but that's in my meta, which I wouldn't exactly call competitive. I love this deck, but I just want to be clear that it was entirely concepted as a home for janky soft win cons like the station and module cycles, I'm sure there are far better pure colorless artifact decks out there. I should also say that this is the list I originally concepted the deck with so it is both slightly idealized as well as out of date, I never actually got my hands on a copy of Urza's Saga for example, and I have since swapped Traxos for Urza's Battlethopter as the commander and am toying with swapping again to the newly desparked Karn, but I haven't gotten around to it.Anyways, with that heavy grain of salt, here's the list: www.mtgvault.com/matanui606/decks/the-machine/
@StragetyMTG
@StragetyMTG Месяц назад
Nice list, I love a good titan forge.
@curtissearle6462
@curtissearle6462 Месяц назад
Bro you just gave me a hilarious idea with the soup idea I gotta get to brewing lol
@namdoolb
@namdoolb Месяц назад
Here's a fun wincon for you..... Watchful radstag + dreadfeast demon. Couple of caveats: 1) The combo requires a couple of disposable creatures to feed to the demon(s) to get your stag population off the ground. But once you have 4 or more stags it won't matter if the demons start snacking on them. 2) the speed of the combo depends on your access to populate effects: if you don't populate then it's pretty slow, if you can populate a few times then two turn cycles will usually give you an army beyond the wet dreams of most scute swarm players. I run this in a "xavier sal, infested captain" deck. At the end of the turn that the demon is played you usually have a small clutch of creatures. By the end of your next turn you usually have stags numbering in the high double to low triple digits. If you untap again with that army you can usually k.o. the entire table. (Ofc xavier sal has very easy access to token copying. That does help it to go off fast(er)) I'd rate it average to risky in vulnerability, and average in speed. Sweepers ruin your day, but point removal has a hard time stopping it (either has to be instant on the turn that you start going for it, or need multiple pieces to take out either all your stags or all your demons).
@softsoftkitty
@softsoftkitty Месяц назад
Never would've thought of Empyreal Archangel to put in new Atraxa, but it's actually quite clever. Definitely wouldn't be the main wincon, but as a backup or just something to stall until the real wincon comes online, it sounds pretty fun. I'd still count it as a wincon, and I agree with your chart, but wincon or not it wouldn't be the focus of the deck. Just found your channel today, but it already looks great. Your videos stay interesting with minimal editing or visual flair (though please do keep up with keeping the corners of cards transparent), which honestly helps for readability. Excited to see what's next!
@equivocat
@equivocat Месяц назад
I keep an Esper Queza deck with a variety of unassuming hard wincons. Phage+Fractured Identity. Approach of the Second Sun+Remand. Peer into the Abyss+Psychosis Crawler. Nine Lives+Fractured Identity. Lots of fun, drawing naturally into any piece and pivoting the tutor plan to get the other half.
@iokcs
@iokcs Месяц назад
Thanks for a new Gor Muldrak idea. I love my Gor deck i use an Ernest P. Worrel proxy 😃
@thatzombifiedpotato4925
@thatzombifiedpotato4925 Месяц назад
Overall, I love this concept of hard to soft win conditions. And keep up the good work. Hopefully, your channel continues to grow.
@Twime.
@Twime. Месяц назад
Great list of cards. I run crafty cutpurse in a few decks, but coupled with that card is nuts. I feel inspired to make a “Newt” deck now. Keep it up!!
@knightfury6207
@knightfury6207 Месяц назад
I think a fun win con, is approach of the second sun. Sometimes works sometimes doesn't. In modern it can go pretty hard though
@ry7hym
@ry7hym Месяц назад
7:29 hey, I have both of these cards! I remember playing an Oversimplify with an activated Alchemist's Refuge, and I remember the player attacking me saying "wait you don't have Cyclonic Rift do you?" (we re budget players that's why he said that) I felt kinda disgusting but it was also a really cool gotcha moment now I'm thinking of putting Oversimplify back into my deck together with cutpurse
@ry7hym
@ry7hym Месяц назад
this combo kinda makes me think of Insurrection
@xaeoxic7328
@xaeoxic7328 Месяц назад
im a big fan of mono green ramp ramp ramp ramp ramp ramp hurricane for a ton. ive gotten all basics out of my ojer kaslem deck a few times i can recall, boundless realms usually is the catalyst for that, but yk.
@VinceOfAllTrades
@VinceOfAllTrades Месяц назад
Vigor might be able to speed the Empyrium Archangel strat up, especially if you can have some infighting to buff it up.
@Radjammin
@Radjammin Месяц назад
Rod of Ruin is my win condition. It's my truth.
@ry7hym
@ry7hym Месяц назад
3:35 continue watching for me button
@elguapobandito2833
@elguapobandito2833 Месяц назад
There’s a green card that creates Centaurs, forgetting the name, but boardwipes everyone then creates tokens. Crafty cutpurse work great with it…will edit if I remember the name
@eduardonakamatsu2233
@eduardonakamatsu2233 11 дней назад
"Rampage of the Clans"?
@leero9032
@leero9032 Месяц назад
barren glory
@DDrizzin
@DDrizzin Месяц назад
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