Throne And Liberty First Impressions "Is It Worth Playing?" 

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I'm very surprised on how this game changed. Hopefully devs will continue to listen to players and it will be even better in time

Apart from the gorgeous world design, I think another reason this MMO looks so damn good is the heavy use of subsurface scattering in all of the foliage. You can see the sunlight piercing through the leaves and grass.

This Game unironically has/had so much potential... I specifically loved your take on "sometimes you get lost in systems", and modern mmos would simply scale down and put less of the systems down, reduce the amount of "collect 1000 rewards through different menus" and this could be very good example of what a lot of people are longing from mmo -> an Adventure through the immersive world and not the menus.

I kinda like the fact that questing makes you look for where to go yourself without a precise direction for the sake of immersion, but it looks like they could definitely do better at giving more hints

Ty for the update. Appreciate your content as always.

Another great review Sir! Thank you for giving it a try and testing it for us, loved the honest review and many Details you picked out.

Been a while since I checked out the channel. Peon, you finally leaned out. I'm so glad you followed through with your goal. 🎉🎉Better late than never. You look great. Looking forward to the next Life is an MMORPG episode.

I liked the idea of just finding a hunter mid combat, you said you prefer the bdo “go kill” quests to having to look and use your brain but you seem to really aim for end game in mmos, I enjoy the leveling and grinding process where I can just chill out

About the combat, I've seen a lot of people saying that it does get better later on, but it also massively depends on the weapons you're using. Some are apparently just way more fun to use than others.

Being one of those who was wowed by the first trailers, than got pissed off when the autoplay shenanigans got out, now being back to wanting to play it, this video just made me want to play more. From what i've seen the combat system is a dumbed down version of the older mmo's, which I think is a good think I don't have to manage 5 tabs of skils. Looks bloody amazing (RIP my laptop) and the I'm so up for a questing system that doesn't hold your hand like a 3yo everywhere you go.

Bro I fucking love your editor. I don't comment a lot, but jesus christ that "mayday mayday" really made me chuckle

TheLazyPeon delivers again with his calm voice, to the point analysis, the pitch and the delivery. Such an underrated youtuber. You are a start m8. keep up the good work.

14:21 this is because of ping and desync, with Exitlag i had no problem. Also a lot of ppl have complained about this specific side quest they revamped the place so hooking up is much easier now with platforms to land on.

Thank you for the summary! It does look great, and it has this "new" feeling we are always looking for. Still, this is a Korean MMO with P2W aspects and hundreds of enchantment items and fail systems that we have seen so many times. I will jump on the hype train, but honestly, I don't think that we will stay there for a long time.

Great vid as always Peon! Thx for sharing. Been and old L2 player first MMO played for 7 years, this will i dive all into. GG

I found your channel when you only had 50k subs I’m so happy for you and to see the improvement and no of subs ❤

It seems the devs are seriously watching the youtubers as well. They have already greatly changed questing since launch, especially requirements like waiting for rain, dark, etc, etc. I think AGS will clean up the unintuitive questing quite a bit for western launch as well.

This game can go very far if the devs continue to listen to its community, its one thing that many devs fail to do in their games.

Was waiting for your next upload and it was T & L, nice update bruv

Awesome video mate 👌🏻 I was rly sceptical about this game and there are still a few things I hope Amazon will change, but I totally looking forward to play TL in Europe

Oh man! I'm definitely excited for this game now!

yeah like most first impressions in past were very negative. But this shows they are listening and not afraid to make changes. That's a VERY good sign. Looking forward to seeing more.

That ad transition was well made

Seems to have a solid foundation, together with the fact that the devs clearly listened to people about the combat means it definitively has promise

the rock/harpoon climbing & flying is scuffted because of the ping mostly

looks good ill keep my eye out for it! I'll play it some day!

Haven’t watched a lazypeon video in a while but my man’s got that veneer smile. Congrats brother🎉

Ok man I have not seen many of your videos but gotta say your soft spoken voice is very good for monologuing. But im only half way through the video and when you were a sheep and put that 1 second Goat sim clip in... Well I lost it, I have been straight laughing for the last 15 minutes non stop... Thank you I needed that.

definately want to give it a try myself. a nitpick i have is the sheathed weapon placement. it looks silly seeing your wizard book on your upper back clipping with the staff. why not just have it on your lower back or your hip etc. alot of games dont give a second thought to this but i always notice it immediately

I am always amazed at Korean's MMO graphics. I wish some of them would collaborate w/ big western studios to make a truly amazing MMO that caters to both east and west players.

Great video, as always!

Can’t wait!!! I feel like a summoner class would be so fun in the future! Love my mages so I was happy to see you create one ! 💖✨

How is your tutorial popups in english, but mine are in korean? I have the game set to english but I cant find a way to change the help into english.

If the devs want this to succeed they just need to listen to feedback and issues from the community

Hi, thanks for the first impression. I would be interested to know what kind of PC you have, especially which CPU you are using.

This game will probably carry me til Once Human releases. It's been a while since I watched one of your videos, holy hell you look great man.

Love how Peon remade his wizard from BDO immediately

I had dismissed the game at some point during development, but having been inspired by the dev's listening to feedback and making adjustments, I decided to give it a try - and I have to say, I'm low-key blown away by how good it is overall. There were many moments even in the first 20-ish levels where I found myself keenly aware of my positive or just powerful emotional response to something the game was delivering, be it a beautiful vista, an impressively smooth switch from cutscene to gameplay or intense action of an open world dynamic event where you're competing against other players and fighting the clock. If I say "Wow!" or "Holy shit" out loud during a game, I have to consider it worth playing. It's not perfect by any means, but given the MMO landscape right now, it'll do. It'll definitely do.

Thanks, I'm really out of games and haven't done any MMO since a long time and hoping this could be the one but I fear I will get frustrated. Thank you for taking the time to show us.

100% agreed on your impressions. That's exactly how i am feeling while playing it. - Everyone feels like the same because theres no class identity and just a few weapons that you can't even mix all of them the way you want because of Stats. A staff and a Greatsword would drastically reduce your damage on both. - Every stream i watch is doing exactly the same thing i am doing at early levels. Repeatable world events and contracts. It's already getting boring for me, i can't imagine going through endgame doing the same.

4:44 BDO has an undo button in its character customization... not just a button but a whole log of all changes you make that you can click on to revert up to a certain place.

exactly what I was expecting... a game that seems like you are going to enjoy for long enough so that some players cling to it.

1. Good Video! 2. It is absolutely rare that the sponsor beats the reviewed game by far in all categories. But it's also approximate. Nothing can hold a candle to Warframe :D

how did you get your tooltips to be in english? they are all in korean for me althought i have the text set to english in game

Im playing it right now and pretty impressed by the game, as a former Runescaper it feels really good to play. Tried lots of other mmos but they don't feel the same and I never been a fan of class based games where you cant change your weapons on the fly. Unlike other games where you can swap weapons like New World, the map is huge and doesn't feel empty when you walk through it.

I really enjoy where mmos give quests that actually require thinking, multiple types of questing should always be available in the game, grinding mobs quests and also thinking quests.

Your videos are the best :) thanks Peon!

Actually really impressive how much they improved this game. Just picked it up and I've been having a great time!! Love devs that listen to criticism and try to improve.

What timing you have good sir ! I am just downloading the Korean version now. Cheers and happy new year, thanks for all the excellent content.

Gorgeous and no need for alts because you can level everything on one character are 2 massive selling points for me. I know a lot of people say graphics don't matter, but for me personally they really really do. If they fine-tune the combat and smooth out some of the janky controls then I'll likely be investing a good amount of time into this one.

Hey man @TheLazyPeon haven't seen a life update in a while would love to know how life's going in Thailand, Muay Thai progression, Just how you're doing in general I guess I've been watching your videos for so damn long now over several different RU-vid accounts it feels like I've grown up with you over the years. That last personal life video you released a couple of years ago was awesome and I'd love to see more of that kind of content. Anyway I hope life is treating you well man!!!

awesome vid thank you!

If not for the P2W, this would be the best new MMORPG of the year. Greed is unfortunately the downfall of the MMORPG genre.

We need a level 50 review

Yo that facial artist joke hit me like a truck, mad props !

Thumbs up and thanks! But tbh, as soon as I hear you say "I'll do a later video" on a game, I slide forward in the video until I see "PROS" come up on the screen, watch that, and go on with my life. It's all good. I'm just never likely to load up a VPN before a NA release. Thanks for doing it for me.

based on what i saw so far, this will be my main game for a few years. It's basically what i wanted New World to be

When is this released????

Servers are already merging, so I think you are spot on! I hope it is better when it hits the US! Thank you for the video.

City of Heroes had undo in the costume creator 20 year ago. And it still does in 2024, especially now that the Homecoming team have announced they have finally officially licensed it from NCSoft. :).

When is this releasing for the West?

How did you get access? I'd like to play it now, instead of waiting for the global version. If my PC can handle it now, I'll play it later, if it can't no point in waiting. So what's the way to get it?

Have you done a video on broken ranks? Tried searching on Google but didn't see anything.

22:52 This is a useful tool in real life, but I also find it helpful in gaming as well; "Sometimes is good to chill, turn off the UI, take in the environment and appreciate the scenery. Sometimes it's all to easy to get lost in systems and menus"

I'm kinda addicted since I started playing a few days ago, can't wait for the west

4:47 BDO has an undo option, how do you not know this?

Been Looking forward to this game forever.. I definitely will be living in this game, has a black desert feel to it... Great Video

how have you got a full english translation game on korean servers? is there a way for us to play now before global release? great video btw

Personally I think this game has real potential to get better over time like New World has. Biggest reason for that is they've already shown that they're willing to listen to the player base and make improvements. So I think if we are patient and give good, honest feedback in time they'll probably improve it more. This was a game I had written off a long time ago when I saw initial gameplay, however I am a more patient gamer and after having seen this I do see myself giving this a good honest try! Awesome review video as always TheLazyPeon thank you!

You have great takes on everything except questing! You’re conditioned to brain dead kill and deliver quests. I understand where you’re coming from, but having to figure out locations of important quest pieces is a benefit, not a detriment. Think playing classic WoW with no add ons or Google.

Im looking forward for you being in the endgame, and do a proper review. I would very like to hear more about the guild stuff igame, as I think it depends alot about that. And then see you use other weapons, also at endgame, so we can hear about the progression and the differences. Thx for the First Impression.

It was in development longer than 10 years. I remember this being announced as Lineage Eternal back in 2011 and believe it was in development longer than that. It's been turned into so many different things over the years so surprised it actually launched in some form lol

This looks like it could actually be quite an alright mmo!

The skillbook upgrade spam, and the transfer of enhancement levels to your new equipment are very reminiscent of a lot of the server rush, auto playing 'mmo-like' cash grabs NC soft and others are notorious for; I've got a few of those games covered on my videos... It's doing me a concern. Might be OK to pass the time while we wait for PoE2 and AoC I guess... I'll give it a go when I can get access...

Question: I see a lot of Birds Eye view gameplay but here it’s close up 3rd person. Does this mean you can switch between both? Cause I rather prefer close up 3rd person view I hate Birds Eye view or when my character is tiny.

looks fantastic, hype back on track

Man it seems awesome, is it coming to the west some time soon?

something about Korean mmos that look so soulless to me no matter how good they try to make the graphics look. I cant quite put my finger on what it is

The landscape detail of this game is immaculate! I like the dynamic events, similar to gw2. Stoked to see more gameplay on gvg perspective.

We are in a major drought and I pretty much just Raid log on SoD rn. Looking forward to having some fun playing this game for a couple months like I did with Albion.

That UI is surprisingly not disgusting

They should add more skills in the future. Add more solo gameplay opportunities. Who doesnt like a good ganking

The later iterations of Ureal Engine 4 was way better looking and closer to looking to 5 but this game looks way better than I would have expected from UE4

Do you have to keep clicking your mouse for what would be the basic auto attack????

Another mmo review from lp.. im a simple man, i watch❤

I think we should be paying more attention to the fact that they had a horrid, mobile/predatory style with auto play and stationary combat. and in a matter of a few months, completely turned it around. If we were paying attention, it's.....almost like, they mean to make shitty games because they are easy to mass produce and even easier to get people to waste money. It's almost like all these games have the ability to make good games, but the consumer allows them to make shit.

Your character was giving me long-haired Ray Stevenson (rip) vibes. Badass!

would be nice to know your setup and FPS you get on new games,

When is the global release

I think you were very unfair in your criticisms of this game and I disagreed with much of your opinions and preferences that you stated in this review. It is one of the best and most polished MMOs I have played and I am very much looking forward to global release.

Based on what I have seen out of videos of players that are much deeper into the Game so far (of course I cannot know your current off screen progress) I think you have became, in this video of yours an >honest< part of the "it`s getting much better later on" mechanic. Like for some things there is no other way to "build them". I can give car engine and it building up revs (even thou that actually really is quite fast newer days, you are like gas, shift, shift, shift into forth 160... but still the rev`o`meter starts from 0 till you get "torque values") as an example. My personal impressions are that this game is in fact very heavily team/party (possibly and most likely/desirable out of guild) orientated equipment builder. The combat isn`t bad, it`s just "maxed out" fairly fast. All your skills leveled and arranged in chosen rotations, all your passives set. Next up... Tweak them >visible< numbers via the equip. Weather it is the frequency and size of offensive numbers, or your longevity in the combat... It`s all them equipment grades, item`s personal stats, them being part of viable sets or not (I do see something resembling sets if I am correct but I am assuming actually gathering and leveling one of those will be a very hard task especially the viable ones) and than Traits available per those items. As I've already commented I'd personally (if I were playing T&H) attempt to find defensive pieces that offer Max HP, Mele Evasion, Ranged Evasion... But are pieces like that even available, are their other >in build stats< viable... Isn`t Skill DMG reduction better... those are all things T&H players will have to find out by themselves. Yet of course if you want actual equipment builder I suggest ARGP, like Diablo 4 or Path of Exile (which is a bit dated but it will soon be refreshed by it`s 2nd release). Now what those games do lack is great 3D sceneries as the ones seen on TLP`s screen and and fulfilling party play. Of course in both of the arpgs parties are possible and fun, but they are bam, slam, thank you ma`am kind of thing where overpowering yourself to "solo carry" is possible and desired and team play is actually intended meme. In T&H is nothing Meme about party and I personally really really dislike that since it`s mostly feels like other people are w8sting your time of doing what you want, or you are w8sting theirs occasionally but either time it`s a lot of w8st of time. (of course if you do not actually like to ~spend, let`s say, your time that way). Now you probably do it also solo somewhat... but like 5x time slower (so even more time ~spent) and also for naught. Over time mmorpgs and League of Legends have completely ruined my strive for party play, so I will stick to a mmorpg where it isn`t much of an requirement at all, but oddly enough if you are fairly new to games ~I Advice you not to be like me right away... Get disappointed by party play yourself first, if you do at all, seek out that other not so party orientated yet great mmorpg world later :P. And how can a game be massive and multiplayer actually requiring much of a direct other player interaction... well now that is bot the trick and the charm of around there. Now if that sounds somehow very dumb and broken in your mind ~ T&H it is. And if you are American and want to support your local industry out of nationalism you might as well just go WoW... because why not. It`s just it`s graphics are much more dated, outside of that it`s class, skilling, passives, everything is like ~20 years worth of development better. NC soft of course are not out of yesterday... some do claim this is Linage 3 (where I and 2 actually exist, for those of you that do not know). But the thing is that if newer releases of a game do not get simplified to their previous releases, no new player play em, and the old player base will not bother to swap to the same game with different graphics either (Most of them at least). so T&H class and skill and possibly many other things mechanically wise is like ~much easier to put it that way. I am not saying complex, complicated and hard is good (I am not that smart) it just well... Naah I don`t even wanna talk about it. Keep it Simple. Keep in mind (while on keeping stuffs like Keep the Hair Product Dahn Rob is promoting) that WoW already is more simple than Linage 2 and in comparison to this dual skill few passives and the mastery three + items system, Wow still is nuclear physics in it`s game mechanics part in comparison to this. I could of course be utterly wrong since I have neither played WoW to high end not have I ever played T&H and I am practically making those claims out of thin air.

Looking forward to your next cover of this game.

"Thrones And Liberty has just released in Korea" Aaand that's me losing all interest in the game. I don't want yet another boring mindless grind and pay2win/pay2progress timegated MMO. Combat isn't everything in MMO yet in Korea it's generally the only point of focus. There is a limit to how much one can endure after playing Black Desert Online & Lost Ark so long. How is this one going to be any different if the main consumer target are Koreans that spend more money on games than food, first and foremost ?

Quite a good looking game with a variety of environments and large structures - that is not just random imported building models thrown together to appear like a city

is it out yet? i tried looking for it, takes me to steam but its not released it says

I've been covering the game on my channel since day 1 of KR release and racked up over 200 hours and I can honestly say that you haven't even experienced 10% of what TL has to offer. In todays gaming and MMORPG world the one thing that any player and gamer values the most is how developers care about the game by listening to feedback and improving on it. So far NCSoft has done an amazing job and I have already played for over 200h and every week they fix bugs and add new QOL changes that players requested. Yes, game is p2w, and it has bots and RMT, but every new MMORPG is like this, deal with it. Saying the game won't even be top5 mmorpgs in the west is a bold statement knowing amazon is publishing it. And lets be real there isn't any competition. Ashes of creation is long time from releasing, and honestly TL feels and plays much better than AOC. AOC in UE5 looks like its been made in 2010. The only MMORPG that will break the MMORPG world and has a chance at taking the throne is whatever RIOT Games comes up with. Everything else will be a mediocre at best, and thats ok. If the game is fun play it, try it, if not don't and go back to whatever you were playing, but don't then start crying how devs don't care about the game u are playing and don't fix any issues. For now you have NCSoft that does great job and that is more then enough for me to give this game a try.

I think every one should give the game a good try (lvl to max and do some endgame stuff) it will be F2P so it will not hurt, and if you are a full casual pve player don't need to worry about p2w or buying anything in the game. For people that have a mmorpg they like and play right now i doubt that people will swich to TL, but for people like me that don't have any mmorpg to play because you hate all of them it's a nice game to scratch the mmorpg itch.

@TheLazyPeon so what mmo are you playing these days?

When I saw the first trailers for this game I was impressed. Then the beta feedback from Korea came out and I was disappointed. But seeing as how the developers listened to said feedback and actually made changes gives me hope. I'll definitely be giving this a session or two when Amazon publishes the Western/International release.