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THROUGH THE LENSES - PICO 4 vs REVERB G2 vs VALVE INDEX ! - Best PC VR? 

Tyriel Wood - VR Tech
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Is the Pico 4 on par with the top-of-the-line PC VR Headsets? how does it compare with the high-resolution HP Reverb G2 and the crazy refresh rate of the Valve Index?
Here we are with a new Comparison! Welcome to another Through the Lenses Video! The series where we compare our VR headsets to see which one is the best, and which one is the right for you!
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Комментарии : 539   
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Год назад
wireless, full res or high refresh rate? what's more important for you ?
@henryr417
@henryr417 Год назад
Full res
@sCommeSylvain
@sCommeSylvain Год назад
No headhaches but i'm not sure what's causing them when i'm using my old Vive long enough
@MagicznyK
@MagicznyK Год назад
200 o filed of view
@b00rak
@b00rak Год назад
Resolution is the most important.
@CatNoirVR
@CatNoirVR Год назад
Pancake lenses after years with Fresnel.
@MattWagner
@MattWagner Год назад
Tyriel: Thanks for using DCS as one of your examples. Please reach out to me if you'd like a much more recent DCS aircraft to use as an example for future through the lens videos. - Wags
@ikonane
@ikonane Год назад
I came for the DCS comparison.
@EskoLuontola
@EskoLuontola Год назад
DCS or MSFS comparison was what I too came here for. Looks like I'll stick with G2 until a clearly better headset comes along (e.g. pancake lenses, 3-4K resolution per eye, DisplayPort support).
@thisismystop5735
@thisismystop5735 Год назад
The man himself... Tyriel definitely needs an Apache in his life.
@foolangi
@foolangi Год назад
Can’t turn down that offer from Wags himself!
@Junker_1
@Junker_1 Год назад
@@EskoLuontola Do you know if something like that is on the horizon?
@BrettWidner
@BrettWidner Год назад
Those Pancake Lenses make such a huge difference in edge to edge clarity. Aberration is almost entirely gone. Thats so dope.
@jamesyoungerdds7901
@jamesyoungerdds7901 Год назад
Amazing, thanks so much! I really appreciate the editing and emphasizing what we really want to see 😃. When I saw the Quest Pro and Pico 4 reviews, I got myself a G2 on sale - thanks to your great comments about it!
@tommygun9267
@tommygun9267 Год назад
Would really appreciate the FPS counter or frametime graph in the video for each headset. It would be really interesting to see performance differences as I guess wireless vs dedicated DP input is much different performance wise, plus various resolutions of each headset. Is it possible to show that in next videos please? Thanks for the awesome content!
@FFampack
@FFampack Год назад
Being able to look around without having to move your head for focus is probably the greatest feature of pico 4s pancake lenses. Game changer in my opinion, always felt trapped in other head sets because of this.
@fred6907
@fred6907 Год назад
If future headsets keeps the clarity and manage to increase the FOV even further, like 130 or more....I'm all in on VR.
@malzergski
@malzergski Год назад
​@@fred6907 probably the Pimax Reality headsets
@freemanol
@freemanol Год назад
also not having to find that tiny sweet spot. i tried getting my friends into VR but they're always thrown off by how "blurry" the image is, because it takes experience to know how to adjust the headset properly and to make it stay that way.
@adr2t
@adr2t Год назад
@@freemanol CV1/2 seem ok until Quest where it was more front heavy. The headset would move on people and that cause a lot IDP and people out of focus from the center problems. Hopefully with a better headstrap + less weight in the front it helps solves some of those problems going forward.
@legendp2011
@legendp2011 Год назад
@@freemanol thankfully the upcoming psvr2 (for ps5) has eye tracking that will help people adjust the headset perfectly. I think it will be a game changer for vr
@dave2blame444
@dave2blame444 Год назад
Index is really starting to show its age visually. We need that Deckard, Valve!
@johnbuscher
@johnbuscher Год назад
To be fair, the fact that the Index could survive this long as display tech got better and better is a good testament to design, imo, even with it’s flaws.
@francischambless5919
@francischambless5919 Год назад
That's what I'm waiting on. Screw Meta. Bring on the next Valve Headset!
@Giganfan2k1
@Giganfan2k1 Год назад
@@francischambless5919 We still don't know when this is do we? Been impatiently waiting for almost a year.
@kingr9094
@kingr9094 Год назад
I am doubting between the pico 4 and the valve index. What I understand now for me is that the pico 4 has a bit better quality but, the valve index 2 is coming so idk there is no release date yet and I really want to know when the new headset comes out. Cause I want a vr headset very soon. So it’s really hard to decide if I should wait or buy the pico 4 and save up for the index 2. 🧐
@dave2blame444
@dave2blame444 Год назад
@@kingr9094 the Quest 3 will be out this year, and the specs are looking really good for that as well!!!
@Muckylittleme
@Muckylittleme Год назад
I was worried you might not cover all bases but you did a great job of weighing up the pros and cons of each headset. I'm still weeping that the Pico $ didn't come with DP, that was criminal.
@danceoffAsh
@danceoffAsh Год назад
i hope they bring a link version for the 4 soon. Love my Pico Neo 3 link
@xenovator
@xenovator Год назад
Hats off Tyriel. No one makes lens comparing videos like you, it’s a meditative experience.
@michaelkim8452
@michaelkim8452 Год назад
The music is always the best!!!
@ericthedesigner
@ericthedesigner Год назад
Thank you for honestly showing each model! This helps so much, I wich I hadn't missed the HP sale a few months ago, they had it for sale at $300.
@onurdogan2390
@onurdogan2390 Год назад
hey bro, where did u find the sales? I mean if there is one in the future when can I buy one too?
@ji3200
@ji3200 Год назад
@@onurdogan2390 it was $399 month ago and $349 few days ago. Now back to $499
@donomar789
@donomar789 Год назад
@@onurdogan2390 on the official hp store
@BoltRM
@BoltRM Год назад
Can also check ebay of course, but check descriptions to be sure getting v2 of the G2
@1uponu705
@1uponu705 Год назад
Blk Friday or cyber monday..you'll find one soon
@xav8tr974
@xav8tr974 Год назад
I only wish there was a PICO 4 with options to be stand-alone or thethered with either USB-C and/or DP connection for us PCVR flight simmers. That would be a winning combination. Perhaps that would feature in a PICO 4 PRO version.
@Dallas-eu5nz
@Dallas-eu5nz Год назад
I really appreciate your comparison videos.. eagerly waiting for my pico 4 that I ordered...
@lotentik999
@lotentik999 Год назад
The video WE ARE all waiting for
@Aku77777
@Aku77777 Год назад
Just got my PICO 4 today and i can say it is better than the G2 because the G2 has a very very small sweet spot. I sold my G2 2 days after i got it couple of years back. G2 is clear in the center but the rest is a blurry mess. PICO is so clear from edge to egde and so so light on the head. Im sure pico will fix most of the Pc streaming issues in the next couple of months. Very happy with my purchase.
@CatNoirVR
@CatNoirVR Год назад
Pancake lenses FTW.
@viktorianas
@viktorianas Год назад
Completely agree with you. I am shocked how good my Pico 4 looks with Virtual Desktop. I fell in love tbh.
@philippmyheart1961
@philippmyheart1961 Год назад
Yeah, friend got a g2 and the sweet point was quite a shock
@mohammedajmal273
@mohammedajmal273 Год назад
What about it compared to the quest 2
@JOHB25
@JOHB25 Год назад
Change the gasket - my G2 has the best sweet spot after change of gasket
@panagiotisgalinos1335
@panagiotisgalinos1335 Год назад
Finally. I was wondering when this will be done !! Thanks man
@ViniViVinsi
@ViniViVinsi Год назад
amazing vids, love this comparison!
@paolanavarronamen779
@paolanavarronamen779 Год назад
I've purchased PICO 4 from XRSHOP, very anxious to receive them!
@proffmongo
@proffmongo Год назад
GREAT VIDEO!!! The Pico 4's sweet spot is amazing!!! To be able to see it through the camera lens show how large to is. Now if we could get PSVR 2 displays in the Pico 4 headset we would have something totally tremendous!!!
@TestYourMightVR
@TestYourMightVR Год назад
Great job sir, hope to see the Quest Pro comparison soon.
@stevenstemmler7573
@stevenstemmler7573 Год назад
Tyriel - if you are looking for an idea for a Through The Lenses - I would love to see a VR through the Years - Start with the Rift and Vive and have a comparison ranking all the headsets up to the current. Did you ever get a Varjo? I would assume that would be the top tier.
@theone8625
@theone8625 Год назад
Incredible video bro! Amazing work! Thank you so much!👍🤙🎯
@JacksTTM
@JacksTTM Год назад
Been waiting for this one!
@MrWi2ard
@MrWi2ard Год назад
Always love to see DCS included in the comparisons!
@thomasphilly132
@thomasphilly132 Год назад
Love this Tyriel! Also, this music is AWESOME!
@fragman-1
@fragman-1 Год назад
thx!👍Quest2 in comparison wouldbe nice!
@danieljimenez3453
@danieljimenez3453 Год назад
this is what i was looking for. Thanks Tyriel!
@hammond3656
@hammond3656 Год назад
Thank you for including DCS as example, it's just what i want to see in such comparations. I think, most of simmers want to see DCS in every review of VR systems.
@AnotherAnonymousMan
@AnotherAnonymousMan Год назад
Excellent video, man! Thanks! I've seen elsewhere that Pico 4 gets a big framerate dip in PCVR against these headsets (index & Reverb G2)- was that the case for you?
@nrks27
@nrks27 Год назад
The video we've all been waiting for, thank
@somerandomperson8282
@somerandomperson8282 Год назад
Thanks Tyriel this is an amazing and very useful video and as far as I know unique in the way you have done it, congrats! However please add bookmarks/titled segments to your videos lik eother reviewers do as this is now the modern standard and really helps people to better navigate and go to areas they want to see. Many thanks. :)
@CatNoirVR
@CatNoirVR Год назад
Thanks for the video, Tyriel. Always looking forward to your through the lens shots. Would love to see a generations video where you compare all headsets together. By the way the music torwards the lens shots was a little loud and you were barly hearable. Keep up your great work.
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 Год назад
The Pico 4 looks pretty good in comparison to the HP and Index. I do notice in the HP with Assetto Corsa screens, I can see the blurriness of the lenses away from the sweet spot. I dont see that in the Pico 4, entire screen shots in Pico 4 are clearer. Not worried about the Index comparison, because I don't have that headset and don't plan to. I do currently have the HP Reverb G2 V2 and do notice a narrow sweet spot in the lenses. It is great you are comparing it to the Pico 4. Thanks for the video.
@Nick-tz1ju
@Nick-tz1ju Год назад
Reverb G2 has a very tiny sweet spot. Pico is indeed much sharper overall, but for pcvr it's sub par for me. I returned it for a refund. I like these reviews but overall I think he's a glass half full guy. It's alway's on the positive note. Every time I fall for it, but never really had a wow moment when trying a new goggle. To bad, because I really would like to experience that.
@keremylmaz3155
@keremylmaz3155 Год назад
@@Nick-tz1ju so do you prefer the g2 over pico ?
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 Год назад
@@Nick-tz1ju I know what you are saying Nick. We really don't know the full truth about newer VR headsets from reviewers until we try them for ourselves. I got fooled on the HP clarity and as you say has a tiny sweet spot. I then went back to my Rift S (which can't be bought anymore) and has a larger sweet spot on the lenses. So far the Rift S has been my go to VR headset. Though it does not have the resolutions the newer VR has. Take care.
@valrond
@valrond 11 месяцев назад
Look at DCS, there he got the G2 on the sweet spot and it looks a lot better than the other 2.
@wolveslands6701
@wolveslands6701 8 месяцев назад
​@@dathyr1 Hello there, did you have the V2 model? If yes, how much did the adjustable gasket made a difference in edge to edge clarity and FOV? Thinking of upgrading my headset from rift s to Reverb G2 V2, really skeptical on how noticable the improvements will be! Would like to be informed by those who really used it properly and had long term experience with it.
@gamingSlasher
@gamingSlasher Год назад
Things have improved after my Index but I am still gonna wait some generations more. I want both 120 Hz, much better clarity over the FOV and no cable to computer. Slimmer headset with battery pack attached to waist. Since I am also getting older I would like to see better options for individually adjustment of eyes and lenses.
@ht6501
@ht6501 Год назад
Great comparison video, thanks for sharing. Can you add the Varjo Aero next time? Thanks 👍
@KptnKMan360
@KptnKMan360 Год назад
Reverb G2 destroys everything as usual, and as expected. I say this as an owner of a Pico 4 which I got today and been playing all day, an ex-owner of a Reverb G2, and my friend owns an Index that I've played many many many times. The HP Reverb G2 is an unprecidented level of clarity and visuals, and it has to be experienced to be believed. It's simply mind blowing. Saying that, I returned my Reverb G2 within the first month because I bought it at release and it was full of bugs, which have been resolved now. If I just wanted a simracing or flying headset, that is without a doubt, THE HEADSET. Now that HP have apparently fixed the bugs with tracking, USB, power delivery, cable, its what I want. I genuinely miss the Reverb G2, for the month that I had it, it was simply out of this world. Right now I'm playing with my Pico 4, deciding if I want to keep it, playing with recording and different settings. Its an amazing headset and the pancake lenses are a major step up from the Quest 2, but still not there with the Reverb G2. Saying that, its wireless, which is a big deal for me. It's a long way there, and I can't wait for my Quest Pro to arrive next week to compare it to.
@bobdole3251
@bobdole3251 Год назад
I bought the g2 on release they fixed bugs with tracking after 6 months and gave me a free extra/ better cable that fixed everything. I love the clarity and use foveated rendering mod on all my games so I don’t even notice the edge to edge clarity as I don’t use it and get great performance boost
@MVIVN
@MVIVN Год назад
I'm thinking of getting it, but I'm so worried they'll announce a Reverb G3 a couple of months from now and then I'll wish I just waited! I'll only buy the G2 if I can find a very good deal for it.
@KptnKMan360
@KptnKMan360 Год назад
@@bobdole3251 Man I miss my Reverb G2, I always said I was going to rebuy one when they fixed the issues, and apparently they did as far as I read. Its a phenominal headset that blew my frickin mind when I used it. I would say from my short experience with the Pico 4, that its getting close to that clarity and contrast. But saying that, just like shown in the videos here the compression cannot be avoided and it doesn't get there, but its a BIG step up from the Quest 2. The Reverb G2 and its uncompressed 4K DisplayPort just blows everything else out of the water, without question. The DCS and ED tests in this video confirmed what I thought I'd see, but I was still glad to see the comparison, great video.
@KptnKMan360
@KptnKMan360 Год назад
@@MVIVN Dude, its not worth worrying about. Whatever PC you have will be at its limits just trying to push enough pixels for the Reverb G2 at 90hz, TRUST ME. I ran mine with a 1080Ti and later upgraded my GPU to a RTX3090 and its still just about gets everything running smoothly. There is no need to worry about a Reverb G3, its not coming. If you want to be future-proofed, get the Reverb G2 OMNICEPT with Eye-Tracking that you can't use for anything yet, because there is nothing to use it. Then you'll be set until the RTX8090 comes out in a decade. Trust me, its hard enough just to push a Reverb G2, we're at the limit here.
@MVIVN
@MVIVN Год назад
@@KptnKMan360 Thank you for this, that's a very good point I hadn't considered -- my PC will always be the main bottleneck, so getting some crazy 5000 x 5000 resolution headset with OLED Dolby Vision HDR 144 Hz screens won't do me much good if I can't use it haha! Thanks for this perspective, I'll pick up a G2 soon!
@GamerReality
@GamerReality Год назад
Can’t wait for the Quest Pro comparison!
@marshaltopola5104
@marshaltopola5104 Год назад
I am still on Rift S.Thanks for the video, looks like I will upgrading to Pico.
@EddyKorgo
@EddyKorgo Год назад
Im getting Pico but the only concern i have The colors are washed up but you can clearly see more in the darker areas where with reverb its just pitch black. Not a big fun of the blue colour filter but i could get used to it. Theres also this visible pixels anomaly, dont know how it is when you actually wear the headset, but in this video its clearly visible. 3:02. You can see those lines of pixels around the formula Pros The text is definitely sharper and less blurry Gotta try with raytracing might be mints.
@joseferrer8334
@joseferrer8334 Год назад
This is a great video. Thank you so much! You say you used 2160x2160 for G2 (this is 50% SteamVR SS), and 2160x2160 for Pico4 (this is 100% SteamVR SS) , and what did you used for the Index? (to be fair it should be 2160x2160, it is 106% SS in SteamVR)
@mamorutoriyama
@mamorutoriyama Год назад
I picked up a Pico4 while I was in japan (exchange rate made it a STEAL in price~) I got to demo it first, and I gotta say I fell in love with the clarity... after doing pancake lenses and high resolution it's really hard to go back...
@satish540
@satish540 Год назад
I have just ordered Pico 4. Can't wait to try them out!. I bought it over quest 2 for upgraded hw specs. Want best experience as this is my first VR headset. I have 1660ti graphic card/Ryzen 5. I hope it could run some pcvr games at decent quality.
@neocaron87
@neocaron87 Год назад
The fact there is no more "sweet" spot with the Pico thanks to pancake lenses, makes it so much better than anything else imo. If only it was an oled screen... :(
@mpeabody
@mpeabody Год назад
For me, the pancake lenses AND wireless PCVR put it above other VR headsets. With regards to the screen, as I understand it, OLED doesn't play nice with pancake lenses because they're not bright enough.
@arpi9935
@arpi9935 Год назад
and displayport...
@aj2228
@aj2228 Год назад
remember you're comparing a 450$ headset to a much more expensive headset.
@lockmuertos
@lockmuertos Год назад
YES, the Colors and Black Levels are weak with Pico 4 sadly.
@ForceInEvHorizon
@ForceInEvHorizon Год назад
@@aj2228 quest 1 have oled display...
@ATP-Flo
@ATP-Flo Год назад
Nice, DCS! Will we see more of that?
@netshaman9918
@netshaman9918 Год назад
Thx for this video !
@blitzcrank4747
@blitzcrank4747 5 месяцев назад
Nice Video! Short question: Is there any difference in performance (fps) between the G2 via dp and the Pico 4 via usb compression?
@Der_Joghurt_Ohne_Ecke
@Der_Joghurt_Ohne_Ecke Год назад
Looks a little bit like Pico 4 DCS Picture was not 100% Sharp taken. Compared to the other Pictures it should look Sharper there. But ye ive seen alot Reviews and many of them say the thing that the Pico 4 has much higher Edge to edge Clarity and it makes a lot difference because you dont have to move your head so much anymore to read something that is not in the middle of the Screen.
@kevinbrook7033
@kevinbrook7033 Год назад
Great video, I have a Reverb G2 and a Quest Pro on the way so seeing its comparions with another USB-C display port headset is interesting. The G2 central clarity really is great but the edge to edge clarity is really poor in these images so I'm hopefull the Quest Pro's overall visuals will be at least on par with the G2 as a wide sweet spot is much more desirable. From the images it looks like the G2 has much better blacks and colour contrast too, is that what you see in the headset? Hope you do a Quest Pro comparison with the Pico 4 and Reverb G2 next.
@itzstarcar2078
@itzstarcar2078 Год назад
What are u going to use the quest pro for?
@kevinbrook7033
@kevinbrook7033 Год назад
@@itzstarcar2078 mainly to experience the new tech. I've had six VR headsets now and although I still enjoy it, mainly for Microsoft Flight Simulator with a flight cockpit I'm a bit bored by it just being game focused. Imagine if all you could do on a phone , tablet, internet or computer was play games. It really limits the potential. I want to see what else VR, MR and AR can do.
@itzstarcar2078
@itzstarcar2078 Год назад
@@kevinbrook7033 o ok have fun then 👍
@SolipSauce
@SolipSauce Год назад
Little anecdotes like 13:18 are what stopped me from getting the Reverb G2 all this time, and you hear it constantly. Definitely looks great, but if it's got little bugs and tracking issues every other day then it's a no-go.
@beanos2287
@beanos2287 Год назад
the lenses are also terrible in my personal experience. completely negates the resolution.
@daru6366
@daru6366 Год назад
I have a G2 and it seems to have issues when you try to push the res of the headset in steam vr beyond 60% res. I have a RTX 3080 and 3900X so it's not a hardware problem. The wmr software is just riddled with instability. When I update the software, it will break at least one of my VR games. It made elite dangerous crash and caused serious hitching. Then there is the problem of trying to use knuckle controllers with the G2. The calibration software I use often gets out of wack if I forget to put the head set in the exact same spot when I start it up. Although the G2's picture quality is unmatched, the driver bugs and setup annoyances may drive one nuts. The easy of setup and use is to me more important than if the screen looks slightly better.
@alteredworks
@alteredworks Год назад
@@daru6366 WMR takes about a 12-15% performance hit. I ran tests between OpenXR and SteamVR at the same render resolutions and that was my measured performance hit. Personlly I've not had any major issues with tracking on mine, but the controllers are laughably bad.
@Jrfeimst2
@Jrfeimst2 Год назад
Man I hope a G3 comes out with pancake lenses and slightly better tracking. That would be amazing
@CatNoirVR
@CatNoirVR Год назад
Won't count on that. HP won't release another headset. But Valve could shake up the market somewhere in the future.
@eksot
@eksot Год назад
Rumors going around that HP will drop their VR business.
@Jrfeimst2
@Jrfeimst2 Год назад
@@eksot 😭
@rtyzxc
@rtyzxc Год назад
@@CatNoirVR Source?
@pedroarraztoa2789
@pedroarraztoa2789 Год назад
I think is more probable a Pico Neo Link 4 with display port and pancake lenses.
@MrMattMagoo
@MrMattMagoo Год назад
Hi Tyriel! Just curious, when switching from headset to headset, do you manually change any of the resolutions in Steam? Or are you just using what shows up in the games by default? Just curious if they are all rendering at the same resolution, regardless of the headset resolution.
@KrysRevamps
@KrysRevamps Год назад
during the video he says that he always uses native steam resolution, this means that the in-game resolution is 1:1 to the headsets pixel ratio. so expect, lower res headsets will be at a slight in-game disadvantage when it comes to long distance clarity but I don't think it will have any perceivable difference in-person.
@MrMattMagoo
@MrMattMagoo Год назад
@@KrysRevamps Well that's really what I'm trying to find out. I just believe these test would be more accurate, if they were tested maybe both ways. If I was using an Index at this point, I would be hiiiighly over scaling it with the PC I'm using, considering how low the native resolution is. I just think this could be a lil more accurate through the lens, if all were at the exact same resolution. Not to mention, if the scaling isn't a direct fraction of the native, a lot of times there can be some shimmer on certain lines. To be clear, I'm not knocking his tests by any means.. just curious of the details.
@KrysRevamps
@KrysRevamps Год назад
@@MrMattMagoo I think going with native is the fairest method without involving too much of a headache with calculating performance impact, as screen size is something highly variable , especially when it comes to FOV, aspect ratio and pixel density all being different depending on what the headset manufacturer has decided to use. running above resolution is not the intended purpose of these "through the lenses" tests, as that will be a test of your machine, which is going to be different for every person. The assumption is that your computer is able to run the headset at native resolution and chosen refresh rate.
@jackr.749
@jackr.749 Год назад
The Pico 4 colors seem over saturated a bit as compared to the other two HMDs, is it really like that while wearing it or is that just something that happens when doing the through the lens video? Just curious since I'm in Canada and the Pico can't be purchased here :(
@jasonvidal4655
@jasonvidal4655 Год назад
excelent video, ty!
@unclealig
@unclealig Год назад
really nice comparison
@dhonex
@dhonex Год назад
the only video on RU-vid comparing the Pico 4 with the Reverb G2
@mihtor2462
@mihtor2462 Год назад
Do you run them at 2160 x 2160 instead of 100% resolution? I found out a bit ago that while 100% resolution is higher than 2160 x 2160, it's that way because of the way the lenses distort the image displayed, thus having to super sample a bit to make up for that distortion. That is why when running my reverb g2 at 2160x2160, it says the resolution is set to 50%.
@xSS4x
@xSS4x Год назад
If valve stuck with Oled i might have gotten one but you can clearly see the downside of using an LCD in this comparison . . . Anyways, 1 or 2 more gen and VR should be much better the way things are going. Really looking forward to it!
@AdamMi1
@AdamMi1 Год назад
I feel like people aren't aware how important an actual display connector is. Without it you will get lossy compression which looks absolutely terrible in natural environments. I habe upgraded from a quest to a reverb g2 and one of the biggest differences was the proper video connector. Things stopped looking like garbage and started to look great
@shadyyogainstructor932
@shadyyogainstructor932 Год назад
Assuming you got the Reverb G2 V2 right? How is the tracking of the G2V2 compared to the Quest 2 if you dont mind me asking?
@vidtdao
@vidtdao Год назад
Thanks. good work
@LittleFellaDynamics
@LittleFellaDynamics Год назад
Great comparison and definitely shows how well the G2 performs still - even though there are compromises - if you grab a G2 in the sales the price for someone buying their first headset is an attractive one ... thanks for all the effort here 👌💯👀😎🌟
@joebloggs8900
@joebloggs8900 Год назад
Yep. But you need index controllers . Reverb controllers are shite for shooters. To much tracking loss IMO
@amrinarahayyan8765
@amrinarahayyan8765 Год назад
with this little sweetspot? Never ever 🙂
@B3VR
@B3VR Год назад
@@amrinarahayyan8765is it that bad ? I just ordered one for 300 I have quest 2 and link
@Fieskmask
@Fieskmask Год назад
As I'm chosing headset right now for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, the sweetspot is kind of important. Should I go with the Pico 4 instead of G2 Pro Edition (Which my friend has)?
@pedroarraztoa2789
@pedroarraztoa2789 Год назад
This is by far the best test in the internet between Pico4 and G2. And for me, forget about having a great resolution but in a small center point like the G2. Pico4 wins for me. I play DCS with Quest2 and needed an upgrade, G2 was on my mind but a lighter and more all around quality image is way much better for me.
@angelrr3201
@angelrr3201 Год назад
Thenaks for the comment, could you tell what GPU and CPU are you using, and how many fps are you getting? seriously considering moving into VR with DCS. thanks in advance
@pedroarraztoa2789
@pedroarraztoa2789 Год назад
@@angelrr3201 Currently on Quest2, soon to be user of Pico4. 3080ti, i9 11 gen. Medium-High Setting. 60 FPS and over
@ptnnnnn197
@ptnnnnn197 Год назад
for dcs the g2 is much better
@enriquexporta
@enriquexporta Год назад
I play PCVR only, and had the luck to have both the Pico 4 and G2 with me the last couple of days. I really wanted to keep the Pico 4, tried absolutely everything, from modifying config files from the streaming assistant, to doing the thetering USB trick and use Virtual Desktop in God Mode, it just doesn't look right to me, I rather have the occasional hiccups with the G2's tracking and not being able to look around with my eyes too much inside the headset than the compressed image and miliseconds delay via streaming with the Pico 4 or similar headsets.
@David-ox2ij
@David-ox2ij Год назад
Interessting. In Elite you see more Stars on PICO 4... Is it a higher contrast or why is that so?
@rikusama13
@rikusama13 Год назад
Getting my PICO 4 today replacing my rift S, only for PCVR use, but the pico is cheaper and I absolutely wanted the pancake lenses for foV and the 4k lenses
@Foxtechconsultants
@Foxtechconsultants 7 месяцев назад
Still thrilled with my G2 all this time 😎
@basseman4239
@basseman4239 Год назад
i am curious about how it works to connect pico 4 to a pc. like does it work to connect the usb c cable to a usb 3 with a adaptor? or is it onl usb c all the way. how does the wii fii function work? which versions of wii fii is compatibel. i believe others also have such questions, i could be wrong. but would be interesting to see what works.
@cars-slotsimulacio9338
@cars-slotsimulacio9338 Год назад
Wich pc hardware do you have? I can't see such detail on mine. I had G2 and I must say not sweet spot like Pico but more definition, even if I put my Pico 4 with usb c. On Pico the color is darker. I play Assetto Corsa too, on pico 4 fov is bigger, but not resolution against G2.
@Steve-ob2zg
@Steve-ob2zg Год назад
How is compatibility for oculus and steam games? Does it have an airlink like compatible feature? Is it stable for pc gaming?
@blizado3675
@blizado3675 Год назад
Sadly you can't make a comparison with the Pico Neo 3 Link over DP at the side of the Pico 4.
@panagiotisgalinos1335
@panagiotisgalinos1335 Год назад
Also i can not understand why the G2 in Elite dangerous menu has black selection over the text and all other headsets have red-ish/orange-ish with yellow text. Can someone explain this? Go to 5:57 if u dont klnow what im talking about
@nzavon
@nzavon Год назад
Nice vid 🙂
@adaptiveaussie2216
@adaptiveaussie2216 Год назад
One thing that stands out with pico 4 it is nowhere near as blurry in the peripheral vision as the other headsets
@zaelu
@zaelu Год назад
What resolution setting was pico set up through Virtual Desktop. Looks low rez. To make my question clearer. What setting was used in Virtual Desktop streaming page? thank you.
@smithy1011
@smithy1011 Год назад
So happy I watched this comparison as every pico review I’ve seen is just same old tech specs and indecisive choice at the end. I wouldn’t buy an index and glad I didn’t go for a G2, pico for the price is hopefully going to be some amazing headset vs my old rift S
@daveomeara1
@daveomeara1 Год назад
Tyriel - any rumors about Pico 4 Pro with actual DP?
@danbad1380
@danbad1380 Год назад
Which has more 3d stereoscopic effect? Maybe index with 120hz? Thanks a lot!
@phareliandawn9048
@phareliandawn9048 Год назад
I am impressed by Pico 4 but I'd wait for next reiteration with similar edge-to-edge clarity pancake lenses coupled with screens that give true blacks (i want dark space to really look like endless empty space not a perceivable skybox)
@smithy1011
@smithy1011 Год назад
The issue is you’ll find yourself constantly waiting for every new generation this way, better off buying the pico and selling before next gen and yeah you’ll loose €150 maybe but for a whole year of gaming for €150 is amazing 😊
@phareliandawn9048
@phareliandawn9048 Год назад
@@smithy1011 I have bought the Pico 4 when I found it is available in my country😆
@ShadowRO752
@ShadowRO752 Год назад
7:24 by the looks of it I am pretty sure something wasn't configured properly here on the DCS comparison. I mean on the other games Pico 4 looks in my opinion the best or the most balanced but here it's a totally different story. From my point of view it seems that there's a subsampling going on here (most possibly from SteamVR resolution). I am also mentioning this because I know for a fact that I have some subsampling problems on specific games when I launch them and I always have to reset manually the resolution from the steam vr settings. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or please check this to make sure what the resolution is set to in the video options of SteamVR specifically when launching that game with the Pico. Thanks.
@Pfahli94
@Pfahli94 Год назад
My thoughts as well, something wasn’t configured properly, it looks way too low res compared to all the other games he tested.
@darkcss1054
@darkcss1054 Год назад
Index and Pico 4 seem to be switched there
@ShadowRO752
@ShadowRO752 Год назад
@@darkcss1054 I don't think so tbh. The Index picture clearly looks more pixelated and that is exactly how it would look due to much lower resolution
@Duggers_K
@Duggers_K Год назад
Thanks Tyriel - Great video. Always enjoy watching your side-by-side comparisons. 🥽🥽🥽👀👀👀
@dharkbizkit
@dharkbizkit 7 месяцев назад
ok question: just the headset, no controllers or tracking.. : quest3, reverb g2, pico 4 or vive pro 2? looking for best visual experience here
@Radiator_Original
@Radiator_Original 5 месяцев назад
vive pro 2
@davidcole2337
@davidcole2337 Год назад
All of them look like years better than just a few years ago.. But I think Performance is just as important as Clarity.. And that is where you will see some big differences..
@nox3dsimracing
@nox3dsimracing Год назад
for you , to play assetto , reverb G2 or Pico, if you must buy only one ?
@hackzgames
@hackzgames Год назад
I wonder if we can use the valve index controllers with the pico 4 like with the g2 that would be awesome
@starvr
@starvr Год назад
I want to see what the valve deckered can do before I decide on a new headset unless my current index retires from service. In which case, my choice would be the pico 4.
@ChickentNug
@ChickentNug Год назад
could you do something similar to this comparing the HTC Vive, Valve Index, and Pico 4?
@jasbails9857
@jasbails9857 Год назад
was the dcs filmed/played with a data cable or wireless?
@nissan300zxtt9
@nissan300zxtt9 Год назад
I think if pico 4's colour saturation and contrast were turned down slightly it would WIN hands down , whilst its extremley clear in resolution etc the colours are off. The reverb g2's colours and contrast look spot on , combine the 2 and it would be an even better headset.
@EddyKorgo
@EddyKorgo Год назад
On other hand, the contrast on g2 hides all details in dark areas. plus the text is blurry. This trade off is okey in my opinion. But will definitely have to adjust the contrast on Pico. Especially for raytracing to not to burn your eyes
@addictedtotrack2688
@addictedtotrack2688 Год назад
Assetto Corsa and the Pico 4: It 3D vision or is it a flat image through a virtual desktop?
@paulpjr3224
@paulpjr3224 Год назад
You should of included the Quest 2 in this too. It looks clearer than the Index to me and would be interesting to see compared to the Pico 4.
@nam3ey
@nam3ey Год назад
Nope index is pretty identical to quest 2.
@paulpjr3224
@paulpjr3224 Год назад
@@nam3ey it's a night and day difference. I should make a video through the lens.
@goxy287
@goxy287 Год назад
@@paulpjr3224 he did make a video on the pico compared to the quest 2.
@goxy287
@goxy287 Год назад
@@nam3ey double nope quest 2 is noticably higher res than the index
@nam3ey
@nam3ey Год назад
@@goxy287 nope
@b00rak
@b00rak Год назад
Did you use VD or USB cable for the Pico?
@someoneudontknow8514
@someoneudontknow8514 Год назад
He used VD
@theshazman
@theshazman Год назад
Would have been nice to include the Aero in here as a benchmark
@marcusm5127
@marcusm5127 Год назад
Bought the Pico 4 as the first real vr headset after Samsung GearVR with the plan to buy index 2 later.
@pixel.flight
@pixel.flight 11 месяцев назад
Might have missed it in the video but is the Pico4 running on godmode through virtual desktop?
@RichBaxterMusic
@RichBaxterMusic Год назад
Everyones eyes are different but i am absolutely delighted i went with the Pico 4 for PC VR. Those lenses are stunning.
@vinztheoriginal
@vinztheoriginal Год назад
I got my pico 4 this morning. In PCVR it's the worst shit ever. I never was so disappointed in my entire life from an electronic product.
@RichBaxterMusic
@RichBaxterMusic Год назад
@@vinztheoriginal With Virtual Desktop??? I'll am shocked if thats the case as this beats the Quest 2 hands down on PC VR.
@vinztheoriginal
@vinztheoriginal Год назад
@@RichBaxterMusic Virtual Desktop is "ok". The app from Pico is incredibly bad.
@RichBaxterMusic
@RichBaxterMusic Год назад
@@vinztheoriginal yes, the inbuilt app isn't good now (same as when Airlink first came out) but VD is amazing. Not just ok!
@nurizza03
@nurizza03 Год назад
What do u use to link your pico 4 to pcvr?
@marcusm5127
@marcusm5127 Год назад
I wanted the G2 but it's 850 euros in Sweden and the Pico 4 is 480 so yeah Pico 4 it is. Hyped for index 2.
@dreamer5234
@dreamer5234 Год назад
Did you use Virtual Desktop for Pico 4? From what I understood the quality is a lot higher with VD.
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Год назад
It's VD, I can confirm that it's the best way to stream pcvr
@dreamer5234
@dreamer5234 Год назад
@@Tyrielwood Okay, good, thanks :)
@joseferrer8334
@joseferrer8334 Год назад
@@Tyrielwood What bitrate and codec did you used? 150Mbps with HEVC? BTW, using the 72Hz mode the image quality is better.
@Hitman006xp
@Hitman006xp Год назад
You should compare the PICO 4 when using Virtual Desktop with higher render resolution.
@JAKOB1977
@JAKOB1977 Год назад
The Pico does seem quite a bit sharper. judging by the text on the backspoiler and the barrier. at 3:09
@beef24v
@beef24v Год назад
If you had a rift cv1 like myself and only sim race with it would you get the pico 4?
@fred6907
@fred6907 Год назад
Coming from a cv1 to the Index, it's night and day difference. By the looks of it, Pico 4 is even better than the Index. Certainly looks more comfortable, that's for sure.
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