Thunder Power Adrenaline vs. Tattu R-Line | BATTERY TEST RESULTS 

I like your testing method! Great job dude. Can’t wait till you get to the budget batts to. Personally I want to see the Turnigy graphene 1500 and the Infinity graphene 1500 and how they stack up. Thanks JB

dude. THANK YOU for doing what you're doing!! i am new to most of this and have been flying a grand total of a month. i just bought my 2nd quad and am waiting on it to arrive. the darkmax 220mm. i currently own the furibee x215x pro. ( not the s model.). anyway... the info and the way u present the info is VERY EASY to understand and absorb. i sincerely appreciate what u do. please keep the info coming! i will be binge watching the majority of ure videos in the coming few days.

Nice job and great report. R-Line is our #1 choice at my club and our field experience tends to confirm your elaborate test protocols. I've puffed a few R-Lines racing some F60 Pros full out, before I had connect a current sensor. I look forward to seeing what the Evan Turner "real Life" power cycles look like. Thanks!

Good job JB I use the r lines and I’m happy to see I haven’t been wasting my money

Youve done "top end" now lets see budget (and everything inbetween after!) Great tests. Love the vids, cany wait to see how they fair in the race sims

So happy to see this video test and in just perfect time! I just saw mines Tattus R-Line 1550 are shipped today and its like doubling my joy, since now I have what to watch and to study while waiting them, and it just fills my sails when I see my newbeeness made a good scan of market before making order for pair of new batteries few days ago.. Amazing test!

Think the weight difference between the batteries would link certain conclusions? As a thunder power user, I enjoy the fact that my packs are lighter than most, helps with keeping current draw lower in races in my experience. Excellent testing Josh!

No criticism here Josh! Excellent sciencing! I can;t wait to see how the next round of batteries fair.

Awesome work! Appreciate all the time and effort your investing in this. Look forward to watching more results in the future! Funny I just happened to visit one if the Tattu Facilities in Dublin, CA. In the lobby where I was waiting to pickup my order of batteries and things they had a video showing the intensive production of the batteries. It doesn't surprise me at all of the R-Lines results due to the amazing quality control and production of their batteries.

Nice job Josh, it will be really nice to have a bunch of batteries tested the same way to compare stats.

Joshua thanks for what you do. Your such a dynamic speaker and likeable person that I feel you’d succeed in anything you do.

Although what you say that this results would not represent real world scenarios is surely true, for me at least what we have here is some really reliable data. Even more in comparison to what we are used to get. Congratulations, JB! I'm really thankful for your commitment, and I think most of us who stick to your videos and stay to watch them until the end should really think about becoming a patreon, considering the contribution you deliver to all of us in the hobby.

I'd like to see the CNHL batteries from RDQ on here.

Great testing Joshua !!! This is why I Patreon support your efforts. Not one other You Tuber does this much real science.Keep up the great work !!

Thanks for running these tests. Finally some real data on batteries!

Awesome job Joshua. I loved the thoroughness of your tests in this new methodology. Excellent work. About the only recommendation I would make is that you add the IR of each pack’s cell averages using Wayne Giles IR meter, just for those of us who use that data for pack longevity comparisons. Maybe also the g/watt rating of the pack as well so that weight is factored in too. Excellent work man! Thanks again!

thank you soo much for the daily uploads man, i really love em!! although i aint got money for patreon, i try and watch all the ads. keep up the awesome work!!!

Tattu has so many different types of batteries. Hard to tell what is the chronological order and what is the newest stuff to buy. Some r-line batteries have a 100c rating. I think they are newer than the one you tested. I wish you did an inner-Tattu testing aswell. Keep up the amazing work, sir JB.

Can you put Celsius on at least on the PDFs? So non-Americans don't have to pull out a calculator.

Thanks for doing a battery segment. Im on my first build and you helped open my eyes to better understand. So thanx

Yay! Love the standards and testing protocols you are using!

Awesome job. It was clear and it felt like indisputable data from what I seen.

Thank you Joshua, looking forward to all these tests!

I highly suggest factoring weight into the equation. More than C-rating (current/capacity) I (and many racers) care about current/weight, and capacity/weight. It looks like the R-line weights ~20g more, which appears to scale well to it's ~10% higher current ratings and higher capacity. EDIT: I just saw your "Energy Density" line on the word docs, which is interestingly, identical. My interpretation of your (EXCELLENTLY OBTAINED) data, is not that one is a clear winner, but that one simply has more lithium, which gives you a little more capacity, and a bit better current draw ability, at the cost of 20g (and, of course, $$, but that's almost irrelevant to the decision of "which is the best.")

Great start on your battery testing! I am very excited to see more tests! Thank you!

Plenty of information including a super detailed spred, I found this review very interesting cheers JB.

My tattu R lines should arrive tomorrow. I’ve flown tattus before on airplanes and was happy with them

Kick ass Josh! Thanks for doing this set up and test. I personally very much appreciate it.

Outstanding job sir. That real race simulation data test would be the icing of the cake. Congrats!

Fantastic Joshua! Your 5 second burst test is good but it's the extreme. The next part of the story will be interesting - the programmed discharge based on a real but insanely good pilot flight

Sweet testing and data! Bummer about Evan's test replay, but you guys will get it worked out. This is going to be a fun year of battery data!

This was fantastic! Really looking forward to the rest of the tests.

Thank you for putting so much effort in these tests to make this hobby better. :-)

I'm glad to see some results. After the "best of the best" testing is done I'd love to see some budget batteries tested. I'm sure I'm not the only one who flies for fun and would rather have more good batteries than a few of the best

Awesome tests, Joshua! Try getting some Gaoneng to test too. 😊

Awesome test, but in my experience RLine has a poor longevity are great batteries but only for a certain time, curious to see your conclusions. thanks for sharing

Fantastic test Joshua! You really nailed it. Please give us Celsius next time and maybe size comparison. I find that the gens ace are often bigger than their competitors, but delivers more and last longer. Super great comparison! Thanks.

Excellent testing. This will be looked at by several fields/hobbies.

AceHe 75C & 90C lipo test would be epic! Best batteries I’ve ever flown.

Often Gens Ace manufacturer is the best. It would be nice to have: 1- Internal resistance. The lower it is, the more punch people feel. 2- Energy available in watt hour or joules at different discharge level, you do almost this by giving capacity/discharge rate but it's not the aera under the curve We appreciate your work. Thanks

Looks good, as long as things stay consistent your tests are good to go. 1C is generally standard for lithium batteries, so excellent there. Going with your own standard is also a great move, this way people won't claim you are wrong because the numbers don't perfectly match those of others.

Great review. I've got 4 packs of the R-lines, and 10 packs of the new R-line v2....glad I made the decision to "invest" in top end batteries now

Great work Jason.... You bring up points and logic that I am interested in, but don’t actually follow through on. Thank you!

Amazing data Mr. Bardwell. Thanks!

tattu R ! buying some now thanks josh!

Al fin un test profesional que desmienta los valores súper inflados de descarga.

Thanks so much for the review. Very informative and I love this format!

Thank you so much for doing this Josh. Great job.

The summary doc is a great idea! 👍

YES! So excited. I was literally just thinking about how these two batteries compared when I woke up this morning, cuz I'm in desperate need of new packs, and these are at the top of my shopping list if I decide to stay with 4s. It's like you read my freaking mind or something.

Very interesting. You don't always get what you pay for. Another awesome video with a ton of information

I really like that you take payment in the form of crypto. FInd that pretty cool. I love what you are doing for our hobby. I remember watching you years ago when this whole fpv with quads started to be a thing and your video's surfaced. I questioned you in the beginning and now look at you. Goes to show that hard work/love/ and dedication really pays off. Grats.

Maybe I missed it, but a tour of your battery testing rig, and also a time lapse of your process would be cool to see.

Great work, looking forward to the rest of this series. Thank you for doing this kind of methodical testing. You should do at least 3 of each battery to get a better sample. Or maybe buy 2 and also get a few from the manufacturer to compare. They would gladly send them.

I use TATTU lipos, I have over 40 discharge's on the TATTU 3s 1550mah 75c and it's still going strong. Thanks for your in-depth reviews 👍

Brilliant, proper engineering! Thank you, really looking forward to the longevity tests and flight profile comparisons 💪🤘👌👍👍👍

COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!! As I've mentioned in other forums, the ThunderPower batteries might be my biggest disappointment yet. Expensive and all 10 that I bought were complete crap and puffing badly. Now on the exact same quad, the Tattu packs are hang'n right in there without a lick of issues. Zero puffing and provide similar flights as ThunderPower but at a much cheaper price.

Excellent! I'm happy! Happy flying! :)

Hey Josh! I gotta thank you for getting me up and running on my Tiny7. Im more of a 3D plane flyer but, I have been wanting to get into quads as well. Your video/s got me up and running in no time. I have used, and will continue to your sponsored links whenever I buy my FPV gear or any other related RC gear. Always a thumbs up for you man. Thanks for helping a novice drone flyer. :) It took me awhile but you really make it pretty dang clear! #honest And this was a great video btw! Man you just keep getting better and better! Stoked for you living your dream. Must be great having a career that you love so much! Sincerely, Whitney Harding

I was hoping that was the winner because that's the one I buy and I love it

Great job JB. You should do leaderboard of all your lipos that you test. Everyone likes top lists.

Steele is going to love these results!!! Thank you JB for taking the time to do this testing! This was very interesting. Personally I use the R-Line batts because of the said quality and the price is much better than the other premium batts.

Excellent vid, totally helped me to decide on a battery.

Thanks for all the science, it really does make a difference.

Thank you! that is awesome results!

Excellent! I love to see great testing and your reports are a fantastic way to present the results. Thank you for your time in doing this testing. Could you go to a higher voltage sampling rate for the pulse testing? Having just three pulses for the rating threshold with a slower voltage sampling rate (1x per second?) could easily turn a 3-pulse pack into a 2-pulse or 4-pulse pack at a particular discharge rate. With such a short discharge the file size won’t increase much. Just a thought...

I like the tests you've implemented, especially the pulse test and I think a second pulse test with shorter pulses (1s on, 2s off for example) would be another good one to add to the list.

I'll tell you what, without even watching the video, I've had both R-lines and adrenaline's and what I know from first hand use is this: R-line's held up good while they lasted. Provided good sustained power and didn't sag over their life. They lasted about 3 months with moderate usage before puffing, losing voltage quickly, and beginning to get hot while charging. Adrenaline's: still running with no discernable difference in capacity and no noticable sag since I bought them in 2019 (3 years ago), just after the r-lines went bad. They sat for a period of about 10 months while I took a hiatus away from flying after 10 years - some of them fully charged. I have been running them hard for the last month - about 5 packs a day, and they feel like the day I bought them. There is not the slightest hint of puffing in any one of them. It's freaking insane, really... After the last month seeing how they perform at 3 years old, I understand their price and now have absolutely no problem paying for them. I did cringe when I originally bought them. But holy sht are they good batteries. Just did an internal resistance test on a few - not a single one having an IR over 4. It's quite silly actually...

First of all: Thanks for the testing! Thats awesome! I am looking forward for the next results. Is it possible that you show us your setup? How you set up/wire up everything... how you meassure the temperature... how you control air temperature etc... I know you mentioned it in a video but it would be awesome if it would be on your website or in a video of yours.

Great stuff. Can you please test the Turnigy Graphenes? The higher C rated ones seem to hold up better than I would expect but I fly freestyle so maybe I just don't put that much stress on them.

I think you should test on how long they will last I have these R lines and they didn’t seem to last as long before they were knackered and the HV puffed up after two months. I don’t really fly as much as most people too. but this test will definitely make me go for R line again thanks bro very cool test 👌🏻

I bought all the best batteries, was clear right off... Tattu beats em all.... the 95c is great, but the 100c HV Tattu, now were talking

I would love to see some tests on the Zop power batteries to confirm or rule out the general idea that they are bad batteries. I imagine you would need to test more than 2 though to get an idea due to them being inconsistently made etc. Anyway good work Mr B

I don’t fly droan but I used the same batteries in my mini jet, The r line and tatu are good batteries like you said. I used tatu 1550 75C an R-line 1300mah 95C. What I get from these batteries, unlimited vertical, quick acceleration, 80mph from my mini f 18 blue angels. Is a great battery for all applications

Pretty hard to complain about your test, what you elected to do and how you did it makes as much sense as what anyone else can come up with. Likely somebody else would have done something different, but also likely the result between these two batteries would be similar. Your testing is appreciated and only helps all of us get smarter on batteries. I look forward to seeing the results of the punishing Evan test when you can get it done.

Since the Adrenalines are a bit lighter and the R-Lines have a bit more performance, both batteries are showing an energy density of 0.13wH per gram. So does that mean they perform similarly?

What a way Josh, I learnt something today. I was thinking with some high amp solid state relays, a microcontroller and bit of code you could automate your testing methods. Let me know if you need a hand.

This is great , this is wat manufactures should have done , open and clear results “karakterized “ , in the industrial side of the world all manufacturers do this because they need to for certification

Awesome job Joshua! I have been very excited for your battery tests and I think you did great. I as well like the idea of using some of your bb data to simulate freestyle flying on the packs. Also I would love to see the CNHL 1500 mah 100C be tested along with maybe the RR practice battery or another $20-$25 battery. Thanks for all you do

Excellent and informative. Thank you...

Awesome test's, I love it. Like others have suggested please factor in weight as well. Showing us both the current and capacity vs the weight helps both the racer and recreational flyer. Thank you so much!

Cant wait for the max amps test!

Looking forward to the testing with real world amp data. That will be something we haven’t seen before and will be very useful

The variation in tolerances of SMD components exacerbates the need to calibrate each and every board. We deal with that "problem" in the RF products that my company manufactures every day. A tenth of a pF can throw the product into a tailspin. A tenth the other way and it's sunshine and roses. Don't worry, Joshua, it's an easy assumption to make. :)

Come on Joshua, you are able to pull out top notch lipo testing methods, don't ruin that by using Fahrenheits. :( Seriously tho, I can't ask you to put Celsius on your results since I'm not a contributor, but it would be nice for the 40% of non US viewers using the Celsius like 95℅ of the world lol.

It will be really interesting to test how much this batteries degrade if treated not very carefully. For example if cut off voltage will be 3v per cell.

I use the tattu r line 1300 mah 4s 95c and love them

Great vid! Sounds like im holding off a bit to buy new pairs of batts before I see some more testing!

Since we all fly different sizes of quads, I hope you'll test everything from 2S to 6S batteries, so we can buy the best performance for the money.

Indestructible Quads Black Label lipos should be included in your testing. Good job on this but I think I would focus on the cheaper lipos as many more people tend to buy them and not packs that cost two, almost three times as much for just about the same performance. Just got laughs tho I'd love to see you test one of those MAX AMPS $100 4s 1300mah batteries tho. I can't see anyone ever buying them but I'm just curious if: fact they can possibly be as good as they're marketed to be. Keep up the good work and would love to see an overview of the lipo testing rig.

Really like the continuous discharge rating reminds me of the way smc packs are rated. 👍

You should add a part of your website where you can choose any amount of batteries and look at them compared side by side. Something like phone websites like GsmArena

BF is not good for Lipo and current testing. I Use an external amp sensor. Charge and warm up. Hover to 16V and make a los punchout to view boarder. A gensace 75C on 200 Amp (6") break down to 12 V. 😅

Awesome results video Joshua! I'd love to see some Acehe battery tests!

Awesome video! I kinda think that a straight 5 second burst on pulse testing is too long to be a real world approach on the batteries. I mean who goes flat out for 5 seconds then stops for 5? I think 3-4 seconds would give more realistic results for this aspect of testing. 20-30% reduction. So awesome the tests are coming out tho! Thanks for all ur hard work JB

Great video, test the RMRC orange packs! And CNHL!!!

I would love to see the test with the pilot blackbox data.. But not just a Race Pilot, a FreeStyle pilot too.. Maybe for freestylers carrying the extra weight of a Tattu R-Line isn't needed.....

you are awesome! i learned so much from you thank you

Cool testing, great stuff🤙🏻

I was hoping to see a picture of the testing rig.