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Thunder Vs Viper | F-16C Viper Vs JF-17 Thunder | Dogfight | DCS | 

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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 года назад
Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com Big thank you to you guys for watching, and big thanks to Ardun for helping with this video. Got Ideas for more videos? Comment them below and we'll see what we can do.
@vuktonic6281
@vuktonic6281 2 года назад
Try mig29 over Serbia during NATO offensive in 1999, against f16
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 года назад
F-22 VS Ten North Korean MIG-29's BVR!👍 You destroyed Six North Korean MIG-29's in The F-16! Longshot destroyed Eight North Korean MIG-29's in The F-15! Lol next logical fight ;)
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 года назад
8:44 lmao wtf he must have been so mad to have done that, cheater!😂🤣
@MaticJ29
@MaticJ29 2 года назад
@@Anarchy_420 even the kindest dogs bite when provoked! xD
@fawadhaq6607
@fawadhaq6607 2 года назад
Reverse the roles in next fight
@roguesnipergaming-dylanses8714
@roguesnipergaming-dylanses8714 2 года назад
GS: He can't use fox 2s so I'll nose counter. Opponent: And I took that personally.
@lancet.346
@lancet.346 2 года назад
Absolutely lost it at the "my name if Jeff" insert. This channel is just brilliant.
@pietroferrari4279
@pietroferrari4279 2 года назад
Same here
@munnumkhalid
@munnumkhalid 2 года назад
It's very old. There was channel chris gamming he used it a year ago.
@lancet.346
@lancet.346 2 года назад
@@munnumkhalid Old jokes can still be funny.
@shannon1267
@shannon1267 2 года назад
Myname isnjeff
@lancet.346
@lancet.346 2 года назад
@@shannon1267 Gets me every time!
@MaticJ29
@MaticJ29 2 года назад
The part where you annoyed him so much that he shot a FOX-2 was hilarious!
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 2 года назад
GS: It’s an all guns fight … JF: That’s not what i heard 😳
@shrugs3233
@shrugs3233 2 года назад
The f-16s gun is so satisfying, you pull the trigger and you don't see anything until they just light up.
@The_Original_Brad_Miller
@The_Original_Brad_Miller 2 года назад
@Garoni will save it And I'm just the opposite. I enjoy the tracers especially when you're in a hard turn and they are arcing out there hard, Takes all kinds I guess. 😁
@Vanessaira-Retro
@Vanessaira-Retro 2 года назад
GS: " I'm going to nose counter and frustrate him." JF-17 Pilot: "Yeah, cool story bro, FOX 2!!!"
@mower2008
@mower2008 2 года назад
8:44 "Screw you, GS! Here's a nice Fox 2 up your tailpipe!" -JF-17 pilot 😂😂😂
@sol2wit781
@sol2wit781 3 месяца назад
The JF-17 is another jet that enemies should not be messing with
@yaseen157
@yaseen157 2 года назад
Man that one circle fight with the nose counters had some excellent (aesthetically pleasing) flying/manoeuvring
@Kev376
@Kev376 2 года назад
Yeah GS is definitely improving
@jaek__
@jaek__ Год назад
The F-16 is no slouch in the 1C
@shoaib3036
@shoaib3036 2 года назад
I am Pakistani I have some friends in PAF. They say Maintenance and reliability of F16 is unmatched although they admit that Jf 17 latest block 3 matches F 16MLUs performance in terms of avionics and electronics. Nice to see your video. Are these both aircraft in the same markings???
@retardmoguss
@retardmoguss 2 года назад
Yeah they are in the same markings of PAF
@sourabhgupta4853
@sourabhgupta4853 2 года назад
PAF is using older version of F-16s and even latest block 3 model of jf-17 can not replace f-16 as they are superior in almost all aspects.
@retardmoguss
@retardmoguss 2 года назад
@@sourabhgupta4853 I think they have some F-16 Block 50s and 52s as well if I am not mistaken. That being said all the F-16 in Pakistani Airforce are very capable which goes without saying. The older ones are more agile iirc
@retardmoguss
@retardmoguss 2 года назад
@@sourabhgupta4853 the JF-17 Block 3 has much better radar than the older F-16 so even if it can't replace, it doesnt mean its inferior
@mralive9360
@mralive9360 2 года назад
Jf17 was designed to replace aging f7 and mirages it is supposed to be a cost effective cheap cost and cheap to maintain fighter and it's alot cheaper than a new f16
@meinhaj
@meinhaj 2 года назад
Thanks so much GS, I remember I requested this from you and you are kind enough to oblige. Really wanted to see what these two planes could do against each other, as the JF-17 was designed based on the F-16 but without an equivalent powerful engine available they had to improvise.
@profo4544
@profo4544 2 года назад
The JF-17 has more modern avionics in some regards, however, you pay forwhat you get in the F-16. Block 2 JF-17 is an 8g, Mach 1.6 jet while the F-16C Block 52 is a 9g Mach 2.1 jet. The F-16 boasts a MUCH better thrust to weight, sustained turn rate, and payload capacity. The JF-17 block 3 will put it on par with the F-16, while at a much lower cost. It is also important to note that F-16s are easily upgraded with the latest gadgets like AESA radars and IRST. Just because the F-16 is old doesn't mean it's outdated. They are both 4th gen airplanes being upgraded to 4+ gen.
@RamiJatuk69
@RamiJatuk69 2 года назад
It's always the man behind the machine. The results would've been different if GS was flying the JF-17 Thunder.
@Waltzyy
@Waltzyy 2 года назад
Holy hell that move around 3:56 was pretty nutty.
@RaderizDorret
@RaderizDorret 2 года назад
GS was on the wrong end of a similar maneuver when he took the JF-17 against an F-15. It shows up in his Moments of Death Compilations, complete with goat scream as it points its nose and shoots him in the face.
@cipher8971
@cipher8971 2 года назад
@@RaderizDorret I was thinking the same exact maneuver. GS learned from his mistakes👌🏾🤌🏾
@Shadowboost
@Shadowboost 2 года назад
Old school WW2 post stall rudder turn
@zachboyd4749
@zachboyd4749 2 года назад
@@RaderizDorret I said in that vid it looked like something out of The Sky Crawlers, and I still stand by it!
@blahblahblah23424
@blahblahblah23424 2 года назад
lmao "enough of this shit, fox-2"
@hamidselectronics4863
@hamidselectronics4863 2 года назад
F-16: Hehe, you can not get me. Thunder: Then here is a gift.
@airriccarioballadares622
@airriccarioballadares622 Месяц назад
While in the fourth also have a gift for jf17 hahaha
@haseebwaqar8980
@haseebwaqar8980 2 года назад
I want to see same fight with you piloting JF-17.
@hamidselectronics4863
@hamidselectronics4863 2 года назад
Right! GS pushes our Thunder beyond its limits.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 года назад
Hell yeah! Thanks GS!! I've been askin for this! Watching now lol freakin excited to see the results😁👍👍
@Someonehasstolenmyhandle
@Someonehasstolenmyhandle 2 года назад
That moment, ,when Jeff had enough of that, nose countering shittery..😂
@cipherunknown_
@cipherunknown_ 2 года назад
I'm Pakistani and I indeed found this video particularly interesting.
@muhammadashraf8189
@muhammadashraf8189 Год назад
@matiaedo9634
@matiaedo9634 2 года назад
"oh, wha-" LMAOOOO 8:40
@clementnoel6663
@clementnoel6663 2 года назад
I'd like to see a viper vs rafale dogfight, maybe soon GS ? ;)
@RazerTheDuck
@RazerTheDuck 2 года назад
sidewinder basically shot the physics out of the JF-17 that first fight my goodness gracious
@BackerCZ
@BackerCZ 2 года назад
Your knowledge of this game is absolutely brilliant. And it's a real pleasure to watch.
@hassamnasir938
@hassamnasir938 2 года назад
As a Pakistani.. i really enjoyed the video.. hoping to see u in JF17 next time!
@Stinger522
@Stinger522 2 года назад
I think the Viper had it real easy in this video. The gun on the JF-17 is really a piece of shit.
@SovietToaster
@SovietToaster 2 года назад
The natural progression now: Thunder vs Lightning
@GM-fh5jp
@GM-fh5jp 2 года назад
Glad to hear "Requiem for the Dying" is back for the slo-mo shots. The unmistakable sound of Growling Sidewinder in the DCS Universe.
@slayerofmidgets3201
@slayerofmidgets3201 2 года назад
I'd have lost my patience with your nose counters so much earlier than they did lmao
@munnumkhalid
@munnumkhalid 2 года назад
In PAF they say dont even think you have guns in Jeff and they don't even load bullets that much in the fighter for the A to A role.
@elijahsajeel7896
@elijahsajeel7896 2 года назад
Yeah GS this was really interesting. Thanks for doing this for us Pakistanis.
@ghostrider1827
@ghostrider1827 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the Jeff pilot said fuck this gun shit!! Take this fox 2!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@basecubing612
@basecubing612 2 года назад
Hi GS! Personally I would really like to see a dogfighting tutorial. For me personally I would love to see the F16 but it would also be awesome if it was in general. You absolutly don't need to do this but I would love to see it. Thanks for all your videos man! They're awesome and you're awesome!
@saqibnadeem8479
@saqibnadeem8479 2 года назад
Gunfight in a Jeff doesn’t make much of a sense when u know it’s not for air to air role, you explained it really well and F 16 got better engine with better thrust to weight ratio as well.
@larrysteve7272
@larrysteve7272 2 года назад
That fox 2 kill reminded me of that Mirage 2000 Mig-29 dog fight video where GS was trying all sorts of Maneuvers to avoid guns just to get slapped with a fox 2
@b2tall239
@b2tall239 2 года назад
"He seemed happy...." Damn, GS......your eyesight is way better than mine. I thought he looked a tad morose but hey, I wear glasses for a reason 😁 Thanks for another excellent video 👏
@dougnixon6464
@dougnixon6464 2 года назад
4:27 what a shot, with the guns and the camera! :P
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 года назад
Absolutely brilliant! Really appreciate the fact that you take request! Again thank you😁✌ Loved how much better The F-16 is compared to the JF-17 now with the changes made, much better!👍👍 Lol plus an amazing pilot always helps ;)
@spookyNorbert
@spookyNorbert 2 года назад
The F-16 is just a category of its own. Both aestheticially and technically. A true legend. A fighters pilot fighter. I was in love in that feminine shape of the F-16 since I was 8, since I first saw the Iron Eagle.. It's basically the SEXiest fighter in an entire Aviation History!
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 года назад
@@spookyNorbert lol I can appreciate your appreciation for The F-16! For me it's The F-22 I kno I kno that's what most people would likely say but it's true that's my favorite😅
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 года назад
@@spookyNorbert lol no comment on the Vids I sent lmao I wonder if I'm wasting my time whenever I try and share things...
@Cmoth040
@Cmoth040 2 года назад
The JF-17 looks like the illegitimate child of an F-16 and the F-20 Tigershark.
@MiG-31893
@MiG-31893 2 года назад
Please can you do Gripen vs JF-17 next time? (With you in the gripen)
@Ali-bz9gd
@Ali-bz9gd 2 года назад
Id recommend that you play 4rounds instead of 5, 2as F16 and the other 2 as JF17, so we know its you not ze plane.
@suspiciousobscurity9886
@suspiciousobscurity9886 11 месяцев назад
man i cant stress enough how much i love your videos, always educational, always entertaining, always fu, you have the perfect channel hands down
@jamesj.7750
@jamesj.7750 2 года назад
GS: this is a guns only fight. *takes a fox 2 in the ass* GS: C'mon Jeff! 🤣
@dherm2345
@dherm2345 2 года назад
GS, what is the name of your closing soundtrack?
@F22Lover
@F22Lover 2 года назад
Hey GS! Just wanted to say I love your content and really want to get DCS! Flying the Viper or Raptor is my dream
@kaiyumahmed4676
@kaiyumahmed4676 2 года назад
Not just Pakistani also loving from Bangladesh ❤️🇧🇩
@venome447
@venome447 2 года назад
and Seriously we miss Bengali Pilots in PAF ,,
@zahnatom
@zahnatom 2 года назад
the jf-17 when hit: *spiiiiiin*
@MaticJ29
@MaticJ29 2 года назад
SPEEEEN
@whalelord9641
@whalelord9641 Год назад
I'm pretty sure I scared my neighbors laughing as loud as I did when he fired the fox 2. That was great.
@vhira
@vhira 2 года назад
I would like to see Su30mki vs the F16 viper.
@kaiezesi6630
@kaiezesi6630 2 года назад
Overshoot any secondddd.... oh waht!? Boom
@avramnovorra
@avramnovorra 2 года назад
Finally the showdown i was looking for for some time and now i know what to and what not to do in a Jeff vs Viper battle.. noice!!
@adityasilwal7069
@adityasilwal7069 2 года назад
That "my name a Jeff" got me bad XD
@stinkyfungus
@stinkyfungus 2 года назад
That first gun rip in slow mo was a real snuff film... Just hosed the poor bastard Right down the centerline.
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 2 года назад
And frustration level goes up to ENOUGH LOL Good fights, thanks GS
@IceyJones
@IceyJones 2 года назад
that fox2 kill XD.....well.....technically you tried to extend XD
@jayminer9416
@jayminer9416 2 года назад
"My name is Jeff" DEAD!!!!!!
@paez4779
@paez4779 2 года назад
I've been dying to see this! Thank you!!!
@astonmartinzz
@astonmartinzz 2 года назад
Watching you flex your defensive muscles in a disadvantage situation was very nice to watch. How fast your training came back to keep him off you while you flew his fight and still overcame is impressive. It would be cool to see you in a conversation with some pilots from agressor squadrons here in the States. See how fast they offer you a sim instructor position!
@bukhariali71
@bukhariali71 2 года назад
Rudder is your best friend when flying the JF17. If slow, it can do some crazy Hornet like stuff with the rudder. Have to time. It right and flip the nose right on the bandit.
@Legendary_Tales
@Legendary_Tales 2 года назад
Growling Sidewinder: 1080p?!?! WHY?!?! one of the main reasons I watcn your channel is because you post in glorious 4K. I truly love those videos! Please resume that standard.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 года назад
The 4K processing is RU-vid being slow to process it, it eventually will go to 4K but it’s out of my hands as to the timing.
@hamidselectronics4863
@hamidselectronics4863 2 года назад
I think that the gun in Thunder was angled for ground targets, i don't know exactly. Because I saw may events and programe on TV in which the Jeff stikes ground target with gun precisely.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 2 года назад
Yes, that’s what I say in the video
@shadekerensky3691
@shadekerensky3691 2 года назад
We still totally need either the IL2 career and/or the F-104 Starfighter Bomber Intercept/Mig 21 Bomber Escort mission.
@speedbirdmuc5182
@speedbirdmuc5182 2 года назад
Thank you Growling, you are the best! 🙏🤙
@victorshikhman
@victorshikhman 2 года назад
I've always wondered... are the F-16 or other jets able to aim the gun within some narrow band? So, you'd point the nose, get him in the hud, and within some tenths of one degree through the effective range, the guns can adjust to give you a little more accuracy. Or is raw nose position the only way to "aim" guns? I always thought it was the latter, but in some of these videos, it seems like you shouldn't be able to hit him through nose position and still do, as though there is some mechanical adjustment of the gun besides raw nose position. Maybe you could give us a class in using guns on a western fighter like F-16, understanding the HUD elements, etc.
@RR-us2kp
@RR-us2kp Год назад
Gun is fixed. But the radar gives a solution to shoot depending on the distance to target. At least that's how the f18 works. Pretty sure f16 is same
@abdulmoeez549
@abdulmoeez549 2 года назад
That fox 2 was unfair! Against the ethos!
@rafaqatwazir9267
@rafaqatwazir9267 2 года назад
We Pakistanis have unconditional love for the Viper...its symbol of power and agility for us in pakistan if someone want to show the speed, power and agility even for his motorbike he would write F 16 on it😂😍 even i saw a horse name as F 16...
@musaratjahan7954
@musaratjahan7954 2 года назад
Makes sense. The Viper is a really fast and agile beast
@silasira23
@silasira23 2 года назад
Is the reason you said "oops" after the first kill because IRL dog fights are respected by both pilots and the goal is to knock out the plane more than the pilot? I always wondered if there was a mutual respect between two opposing pilots in a dogfight 🤔
@jacobusstefanuspotgieter1332
@jacobusstefanuspotgieter1332 2 года назад
What is the name of the last intrumental tune that you use in your video from 13:46 onward. I like it. I want to look for it in i Tunes. Thanks for taking the F16 out again. I hope we see it dancing in the skies one day against the Mirage. Guns and missiles.
@danishbegmirza
@danishbegmirza 10 месяцев назад
I think this was pure pilot expertise more than anything.
@Jr-uh2so
@Jr-uh2so 2 года назад
I thought he went to fox2 cause he was out of rounds. Haha. Those were some legit disco moves!
@nunucello
@nunucello 2 года назад
“It melted him” 😂
@acarrillo8277
@acarrillo8277 2 года назад
Man oh man you turned the pilot into chunky salsa on that first round
@itsmahin5315
@itsmahin5315 2 года назад
JF-17 Vs F-16............🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Very interesting video.......✨🎉🎊
@MuhammadAhmed-in8
@MuhammadAhmed-in8 2 года назад
That's the aerial war I always wanted to see
@bc3713
@bc3713 2 года назад
It's so nice to see the f-16 flying like I know it. Before it looked like it had bags on the whole time
@thepilotman5378
@thepilotman5378 2 года назад
If you look at it for long enough, the jf-17 just looks like a F-5E or F-20 with bigger leading edge extensions, it's very aerodynamically simple compared to an F-16 or F-15
@_Feyd-Rautha
@_Feyd-Rautha 2 года назад
That second kill was so nasty. Friggen sniper
@Rell6000
@Rell6000 2 года назад
1:36 JF-17: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@Rana_Ans
@Rana_Ans 2 года назад
how about an F-16 vs JS-17, FOX-2 flight please :D
@hamzaj888
@hamzaj888 2 года назад
jf17 will surely lose as f16 have helmet mounted display n high off boresight missile which jeff doesn't have
@shahrozsaqib6289
@shahrozsaqib6289 4 месяца назад
It all comes down to man behind the machine
@omer_dr_7211
@omer_dr_7211 2 года назад
Hey GS nice video Can you do f16 vs jf 17 BVR fight it will be interessting thx
@DoradoFever
@DoradoFever 2 года назад
Now what about BVR GS Viper vs. JF-17
@Triple87
@Triple87 2 года назад
Hahahah…. He said enough of that shit…. Fox 2…
@najabatkamal
@najabatkamal 2 года назад
If GS pilots Jeff, results will be different I BELIEVE! afterall, it's all about the man behind machine. Nice video friend. Loves and respects from Pakistan. And my request is "J10-C vs Rafael" (5 vs 5). Thanks!!!
@qiyuxuan9437
@qiyuxuan9437 2 года назад
The guns on Jeff is very very hard to use, so probably not....Unlike F-16, JF-17 is really not designed to do guns only dogfight, only fox2 dogfight.
@najabatkamal
@najabatkamal 2 года назад
@@qiyuxuan9437 That's true.
@Michaelkaraz
@Michaelkaraz 2 года назад
Well fought GS respect man
@leocastillo6828
@leocastillo6828 2 года назад
Can you please do the f18 vs the f15
@jarrettdavis1181
@jarrettdavis1181 2 года назад
Was wondering if you could do the scenario from the movie Iron Eagle. I know it’s not really realistic, but it could be fun.
@dad27rcaf33
@dad27rcaf33 2 года назад
In that first kill, as you was panning in slow motion at one point viewing the dead JF pilot he looked just like Elon Musk Star Man lol...
@VelnixFilms
@VelnixFilms 2 года назад
Exciting dogfight!!
@KashifMalim
@KashifMalim Год назад
HAHAHAHA that fox 2 though 🤣
@mustafatariq3252
@mustafatariq3252 2 года назад
Oh man GS listened to the request. Thanks alot, do one with the fox 2s as well.
@nicolassullivan5577
@nicolassullivan5577 2 года назад
F- 16C Viper vs Gripen e
@miguelruiz8183
@miguelruiz8183 2 года назад
Viper is a beast!!!
@muhammadfaizan2461
@muhammadfaizan2461 2 года назад
finally....thanks for the video
@sol2wit781
@sol2wit781 3 месяца назад
(F-16 vs JF-17) It’s not the plane, it’s the pilot
@f224life
@f224life 2 года назад
I Would be VERY Curious to see a fight between F-16 Viper and F-35!!~~~
@philippgro2797
@philippgro2797 2 года назад
what if the F-16C Viper and JF-17 Thunder get a gun pod so the JF-17 Thunder doesn't have to compensate for that 8°?
@Quillevergreen12345
@Quillevergreen12345 2 года назад
That maneuver is called the hammerhead turn. 3:50
@udemyuae8913
@udemyuae8913 2 года назад
Altough thay opponent guy has no match with your skills...Love this videos....thankyou very much...🥰🥰
@userphone4359
@userphone4359 2 года назад
Helicopter against intercepter - wil be interesting to see and to imagine different variants.
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