@@tesla9665 you'll have to be a little more specific about which part of the mission you're referring to. That being said, the layout of enemies in a room is usually one of a couple different configurations. After doing it enough times you learn what the possible layouts are and can identify them quickly. Also, certain enemies tent to have "favourite spots" where they're coded to go initially once combat starts. The longer an encounter goes on, the more likely they are to move from those spots.
This is insane! I got into this type of hotshot / determined build and I'm addicted. Running it with a group of 4 on legendary missions easily gets me the most kills. The thrill of deleting enemies in a few quick shots is unmatched lol. After four minutes of analyzing your build in the vid and reading all the comments, I've learned so much on how to improve my setup. Also, I didn't see this in the comments, but it's so smart how after killing dogs you tap a purple enemy and then finish him off when determined returns. I'll definitely be implementing that strategy into my gameplay. I don't care how some people think determined is cheesy; it's allowed me to experience the thrill of sniper builds on console, and it seems to have shifted the meta entirely from shield peeking striker / ND. Mad respect dude!
At 28:40, it looks like you take a shot at the heavy who's helmet is already broken. I thought you missed, but it looks like that shot made you lose HH with no damage dealt at all. What happened?
@@nealio6458 for that heavy shot, I remember thinking to myself "what did I hit!?", and playing it back in slow motion I'm still not entirely sure. My best guess based on the damage of the shot, the fact that I lose HH but still keep Determined, I'm guessing I hit the weak point of a dead body that was lying in the way. That would kill the weak point and refresh Determined, but consume all of my headhunter stacks. As for the robot dog after the turret weak point, shooting those weak points preserves both determined *and* headhunter! The talent icon is bugged though. Even though you're refreshing the icon with each kill, the icon will always disappear 30s after your first kill that started that headhunter chain. Quite annoying, but at least it's just a visual bug. And lastly thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it and learned a bit about sniping :) especially with them removing the shield peeking mechanic, the sniper playstyle is about to become even more powerful in comparison. Looking forward to it!
I know some people dont like determined, but it is enjoyable to watch, and tbh i dont consider it sniper it's more of rifleman imo. I say that because i saw a gamer review of determined and he stated that true sniping isnt body shoting its solely headshots, where as i can see his point i must add that i prefer scoped in head shots because it helps me get better where as using determined is literally 1 headshot then body hits, it doesnt give me a sense of "sniping" but more of rifleman style which is why i stated previously i dont consider it sniping. But that doesnt mean its not fun to run and gun with i mean lets be honest some of these missions can get hectic if you dont have a proper build and that takes time to grind out and spec into just to be able to survive and lay down some bad assery on those NPCs. It all truly depends on your playstyle which is why i dont like the "which skills are best or worst" when in reality your builds should reflect you not what others tell you it should be, taking advice is one thing but i find it boring building the exact same builds everyone else uses i am one to try out different builds mixing and matching etc... thats how you enjoy the game, dont get so caught up in "Grinding" you forget to enjoy the game and take in the environment. Sometimes its good to travel on foot to missions or P2P (point to point) jog dont speed run, dont rush through missions try different tactics along with different builds, challenge yourself to ise only a specific weapon or perhaps using no skills 🤷🏾 sometimes its good to slow things down for a bit 😅 when you with your significant other having sexy time i would hope you dont rush 😅😅😅 same goes for THE DIVISION. Now i will say they do need to make some changes such as adding a higher resource cap to maybe 5k and lower the cost to upgrades for gear and weapons to skills.its ridiculous how much resources to have to spend just to level up 1% more 😅 and the exotic components issue is long overdue for a revamp, like seriously 😅😅😅. DIV1 was great and had some minor issues as well, but for the most part, it fkn rocked. DIV2 is a A- high B+ 😅 the wxpertise system seems pointless and simpky just a waste of time, for me it just something else to do whenever it comes to mind it is not a priority for me. As i stated i go into the game to work on tactics and trying different builds and weapons, shying away from using exotic weapons and gear just to see what i can produce, imveriably i have come up with some nice builds that hold their own in legendary gameplay in all missions, what tends to happens is i clear them then delete the build 😅 that might sound crazy and in some respects it is 😂 but i throughly love the challenge of creativity and tactical mastery so to speak. To all fellow agents this is W8rk3t (warkat) signing out see you in DC and hopefully wherever the next DIV should take place. Sidenote: New Orleans Las Vegas Chicago Detroit. Are just some of the few options for next DIV 👁👄👁 idk about yal but New Orleans imo would be epic, what do yal think 🤔 where would you like to go next fellow agents ??? Find out next time on dragon ball ZEEEE !!! 😅
For me, it's still sniping because Hotshot punishes misses. So while you don't have to aim for the head, you have to not miss at all or you lose your bonus damage, your armor regen, and your infinite reloads, which is required for certain parts of the mission. And I've been sniping for long before Determined existed going for headshots, but with the janky animations in this game, losing all your headhunter stacks because an NPC randomly waved their hand in front of their face at the wrong time is a frustration I'm glad I no longer have to deal with.
where do you shoot the mini tanks to basically one shot them? Have been trying to work that out. If I ever will do a solo legendary this is the way i could do it
It's not about "where", it's about "how". When you have Headhunter charged up and Determined activated, your shot on a robot will mostly bypass their armor, and your shot will be a "headshot" despite the fact that the robots don't have head hitboxes. If you don't have Determined active, you can still shoot the robot dogs in the leg to bypass their armor with Headhunter.
@@swift4010 OK understood! Thanks! Shoot some ads get everything charged and then try to get a shot on the mini tanks. I know about the dogs, but those mini tanks at the beginning of district union keep getting me. Impressive run. Still have a long way to go leveling up though...
@@coconatti For the minitanks, honestly your decoy is your best friend. As long as you kill every other enemy in the room they just self destruct at the end, so I usually don't bother wasting my headhunter stacks on them. As long as you've killed their operator, they only sit still and shoot bullets, they no longer move, shoot grenades, or flash you, so they're easier to play around
Haha! Yes, this is the culmination of months of practicing each weekend. Knowing that the build was strong enough to beat the WR meant I just had to git gud. And thank you!
It's not really for distraction, except for the case of fighting the heavies. The drones from their backpack will target the drone instead of me. But the main reason is for information. Knowing where all the enemies are at all times is what helps me plan ahead for who I'm going to kill in what order. The drone pulses on its own every few seconds while it's on your shoulder, or provides spotting lines while deployed. Either works, but sometime having it pulse on its own is important when I'm too busy rushing through a room to deploy it fully. As for why not Pulse, because pulse requires you to stop shooting for a moment to deploy it, and doesn't help mark targets that spawn in additional waves of enemies.
I remained speechless throughout your run, You really put your WR on. Well done again! However, I tried your build and I can't Oneshoot the light yellow enemies yet.( I do 22 million max in headshot damage ) However, I think I have done good optimization and respected your bluid. Do you have an explanation? Thanks in advance !
@@Arikiyo what is the expertise level of your White Death? That might be what's missing. I'm assuming you have your SHD watch fully leveled as well, and sniper rifle damage selected as one of the three damage types from your Sharpshooter specialization bonuses. Also don't forget the magazine mod that adds 5% weapon damage. Those are the common causes of people having less damage than they should. If you still can't figure it out, feel free to message me on discord (swift4010) and you can share some screenshots so I can help you out!
@@swift4010 All my pieces are weapon damage and headshot. And it's actually my expertise which is only 5. Unlike yours which is 20. Thank you very much for your help anyway! If I need more advice I will be happy to contact you on discord!
Hey, so this was done a while ago with the White Death, which was the strongest choice at the time. However the Model 700 is now a stronger gun after the buffs to sniper rifles. And yes, I recalibrated it to have Determined and Damage to Health (to help break the Heavy's helmets)
with the hotshot piece build, the second shot doesn't need to be aimed at the head, you will get a headshot with a bodyshot. but using sniper in solo legends is awesome. he will steal your shots in a group play..
The body shot becoming a headshot actually comes from the Determined talent on the gun. Hotshot buffs the second shot's damage, give bonus armor, and reloads your gun after 3 shots, and then gives all those buffs on each headshot kill until you miss.
@@swift4010 yeah, just there so I know what time each area is at. You know Psystylez? He said he would give me 100 dollars if I got first solo on tidal😂
@@OverRyte I don't know who that is, I'm not really into the speed running scene, I just focused on this one mission because it's the hardest. But, if he meant first person to do it, you're WAY too late :P but if he meant taking first place, that's definitely doable. I've theorized based on how I've progressed through the mission since the MMR buffs that I could get this time down to somewhere between 30-35 minutes, but I haven't put in the time required to practice for it on the new build. And technically there are skips you can do in the mission to bypass some fights, which would be the easiest way to beat this time, but this attempt was about doing no skips.
@@OverRyte yes, 8:35 There's a video on RU-vid of someone from Asia getting a faster time for the mission using a Strikers + Elmo's build, but comparing each room I do each one faster than they do, with the exception of the one I just mentioned. The only reason there's is faster overall is because they used the hovercraft skip The reason that room is faster on a Strikers build is because of the excessive amount of robots and heavies, which Strikers is good at, and Headhunter is not, since you have to keep building it back up. Part of my personal challenge though was to do the whole mission with a sniper build, and still beat the world record (at the time), without having to use the skips either.
While it's a great gun, I don't actually use it that often. In most cases if I need to reset my HH stacks, I just use the TAC-50. It's great for killing Named enemies, but that's typically the only time I use it. You can see in this gameplay I barely use it. It's really just for when I'm taking the first shot out of combat to save me a TAC ammo
Sure thing, I'll add a screenshot of the build to the description later. For now, it's just 4pc Hotshot, 2pc Belstone, 6 red cores, HSD on all armor and mods, Headhunter and Perfect Bloodsucker. White death with Determined and Damage to Health, so that I can break the heavies helmets in one shot with the white death.
Haha, you're not far off... The spotter drone is basically a visual wall hack, and Determined is like a watered down aimbot. But hey, they're tools give to us to use, at the expense of missing out on other talents or skills. I'm just glad that most White Tusk don't wear helmets, or this build would struggle pretty hard...
@@swift4010 That i definitely agree on. Happy its only Chungas with helmets though the dogs and tanks can get annoying. You and other speedrunners provide more useful content than those who put together build videos because it shows you how to play the game in the most effective and efficient way possible. It's also way more entertaining. I'm glad I came across your video so I can sub to another speed runner. God bless and have a great day further :)
@@blackpanda7612 thank you! I too find that most RU-vid build videos are designed to get views, not to provide good advice. I'm not a "RU-vidr", so I don't have to worry about that, and either just share a build overview of all the stats, or advice on how to play. Thanks for the sub, and I'm glad you enjoy my content!
It's called the White Death, which is the special Named version of the Classic M44, so it has a little bit higher headshot damage than a regular one. But if you don't have the Named one you can still use a regular one, you just might not be able to one-shot the purple rushers without Headhunter
@@ScaniaDronninga no special place, just any activity where you can set your targetted loot to sniper rifles. It has way less damage than the Nemesis, but on a proper build, it still has enough damage to one-shot anything except named bosses, and has a significantly higher rate of fire than the Nemesis
@@ScaniaDronninga the build is in the video description, and is designed specifically for solo speed running legendary missions. A variation of this build with 2 armor cores is what I recommend for non speed running while playing solo. It also works in a group on lower difficulties, but for group play at Legendary difficulty, you will need a build with more damage.
@@PatrickMDO62 90% it's just for information. It's a speed run, so spending 10 seconds trying to find where the last guy is hiding is a waste of time. 5% it's to warm me if someone is sneaking around me. And the last 5% of the time it's because the hives on the backs of the Heavies will target the drone first before targetting me.
4pc Hotshot, 2 piece Belstone, 6 red cores. Headhunter on the chest and the Perfect Bloodsucker backpack. HSD + WH/Regen on all pieces. Nemesis + White Death with Damage to Health and Determined. For the boss room, it's the same build but 4 reds + 2 blue cores. And thank you!
@@lizacorre5989 of course! I'd recommend using 2 blues though on the Belstone pieces. I only use 6 reds because I'm speed running, but 4 reds is enough to still kill the elites, and gives you a tonne more armor when combined with Bloodsucker
@@swift4010 What talent is on a sniper rifle (White Death)? And another question - can I use a regular M44 with the Determined talent instead of White Death?
@@dmitryvolkov3906 the only difference is some extra HSD, which I mean if you have a couple points of Expertise more than I did, would mean your weapon will hit for about as much. But at the same time, there's literally 0 downsides to using a white death, so I wouldn't go dumping a bunch of expertise points into a regular classic M44
They added the end of mission summary screen before they increased the level cap from 30 to 40. Our damage numbers were much lower before, so this was never a problem, but now that our damage is so high, it's possible to do more damage in 1 mission than the variable can keep track of, and it starts counting up from negative values instead because it can't count any higher. Look up "integer overflow" if you want a technical explanation
Haha! And the first 2 areas are the easiest to clear >.< Solo it isn't too bad because I have a build that can handle it, but in a team you really need build diversity, and you need your teammates to pull their weight on this mission, or it's going to be a bad time.
@@swift4010 man seriously, I’m into TD2 since 6 months now so I’m really fresh haha and I’m grinding a lot, trying to learn from videos, Reddit talks etc listening to every advice. BUT THIS was mind blowing. Didn’t expect this when I decided to watch this video. Wow.
@@Dazedzzz_ thanks! That means a lot, it was a tonne of hard work to pull this off. Quite literally 8 months of practicing this mission over and over again. I've been around since before launch, so if you have any sniper related questions, I'd be more than happy to help :) there's a lot of really bad information out there about sniping from content creators who became popular and then spent 5 minutes slapping together a "sniper build" just to get quick views.
@@swift4010 man I really appreciate your help eventually I will ask you for sure. I’m more AR / Skills builds but if / when I decide to go for sniping I’m gonna come straight here and ask you man haha and yes, a lot of streamers put out builds just to get views so I’m starting making some with my own knowledge of the game (even if I only just started haha) But yeah man thank you for your answers! And I can really tell you did put A LOT of work in this. Respect
So I actually put together this build but slightly different using the ninja backpack. Still not ready for legendary BUT I’m doing all heroic missions without even having a sweat. And it’s SO fun. Thank you for the inspiration again
what I don't understand with all of you who upload videos to tidal on legendary is how it happens and the opponents don't attack you (I think that one decoy is not enough for that)... no drones no rush from the npcs... something doesn't seem right
It's target prioritization. If you notice, in almost every encounter, I shoot the drone operators first, or spawn kill it when it enters the fight. If killing them all first isn't possible, then I throw out the decoy, and kill them before the decoy expires. Same goes with grenade operators, killing them before they get their first shot off is crucial. Mini tanks don't launch grenades if their operator is dead, so taking them out early is also important. And of course killing medics before they revive all of those other enemy types I mentioned is pretty critical too. When you're killing the enemies fast enough, they don't get a chance to begin the spam. But trust me from the literal hundreds of failed attempts, they certainly are just as aggressive if they get the chance. If I mess up and don't get some of the kills at the exact right time, I become completely overwhelmed with the spam and it's practically instant death. The videos you see posted are just the best runs people do. If you want to see what it's like the other 95% of the time, watch someone live stream their Tidal attempts, and you'll see how quickly you can die if you mess up.
And to add to that, the AI in legendary missions is different than the AI from all the other content. They know if your health is low, or if you're reloading, and will push you aggressively as soon as you start to struggle and take cover to pop a medkit. So if you can keep the killing spree momentum going, they're "smart enough" not to jump out of cover and rush your position, and instead take cover and try to wait until a good moment to push up. But with the bonus armor and the ammo refill from Bloodsucker and Hotshot, the NPCs never get that chance.
@@swift4010 Well, if I understood correctly what you are telling me, that in order to upload this successful video, you have failed in many attempts before
@@piosmoreIAmSick even saying "many" is a complete understatement. I had been practicing this mission for about 6-8 hours every weekend for the 8-10 months leading up to posting this. I set the world record at around 55 minutes many months ago, and then an unconfirmed video was posted showing someone from Asia completing it in about 46 minutes, using skips to bypass certain enemies in the mission. Even though it wasn't submitted as an official speed run, I knew I could do better if I kept practicing, even without skipping any enemies. That eventually led to this video. And now that there's new sniper rifle changes in the game, I've started practicing again to beat my old record.
@@zephyr1018 3123, you can see it in the first few frames before it got covered. But anything over 1000 and you've got the same buffs as anyone else. I would have been a lot higher SHD with the amount of hours I have in this game if Conflict matches had always given SHD xp
@@zephyr1018 it's the chest talent of Headhunter. By getting the first kill with a strong sniper rifle, I can the switch to the weaker sniper rifle and immediately have Headhunter at full strength. It lasts for 30s and refreshes each kill, so I keep it active as often as I can, and make sure I don't take longer than 30 seconds running between each area of the mission.
Oh for sure! I won't be stopping until I get a clean and deathless run. Based on how quickly I've done some of the rooms I struggle with on this run, I'm pretty sure I can get
I've had the same gear for the past several months, and haven't changed a single thing on my build. But I didn't get this record right away. So no, it's not only about gear. This is about a lot of practice, and memorization. And while I'm using Determined, it's also about aim when you're using a Hotshot sniper build. Could someone else do this better than me? Of course. But they would also need to have put in an absurd amount of hours of practice like I have.
@@swift4010well said. As a long time player and someone that frequently rolls sniper in legendaries, most of this is hard work to hone skill, memory and reflex. I haven’t done as many “reps” practicing, thus I don’t have the solo completes.
Yooo this shit on console tho!! You ain't doing this ! CONSOLE NPC'S ARE NOT OF THIS EARTH !! THEY INSTANTLY FLANK AND CHARGE AT YOU, 2 DAWGS AND A TANK IN THE START, 4 GUYS CHARGE AT ME IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS I GET IN THEN THE 2 DAWGS GO EITHER SIDE AND SANDWHICH ME IN, THEN THE HEAVY COMES AROUND AND ITS OVER ! EVERY TIME.THIS HAPPENS FML !! DO THIS ON AN XBOX
The enemies are the same on console and PC. If you watch carefully at the start, I kill the heavy in the first couple of shots, and then kill the sniper dog first, which explodes in an EMP which disables the second robot dog. The way these missions work, is if you manage to kill the enemies fast enough, you can kill the most dangerous targets first, so that the rest of the fight becomes easier. You'll see I target grenade launcher enemies and drone enemies as soon as possible, as well as medics before they have a chance to revive anyone, and mini tank operators before they have a chance to hide. The only advantage playing on PC gives me is that it's easier to snipe on PC, but there are many other videos out there of people doing this mission on console using other weapons.
@swift4010 no they aren't! Believe me !! I'm doing it, and watching Your vid! Not the same ! But you did a fantastic job mone the less !! 👏 I'm stuck on the 3rd part
@@swift4010am on console and I agree completely with you. I definitely aim my headshots faster on my PC with the good old mouse. Dexterity advantage is real. But there’s still 1000 hours of practice to get to your level. I can see it in your gameplay and my hat goes off to you.
@@aaronsinspirationdaily4896 2825 actually lol But thank you for the acknowledgement. It's easy for people to dismiss this kind of stuff as illegitimate because they don't see the work that goes on behind the scenes. I spent a full 8 hour day every Saturday for 8 solid months, playing only this mission. Running this speed run build, going as fast as I could, I actually only beat the mission 3 times. Each time I beat it, I spent hours rewatching old footage, and analyzing my own gameplay to find flaws and figure out new faster ways to do things. There's a reason this mission has such a long speed run time, and this record has gone relatively uncontested for quite a while. It's a lot, and a lot of work. I recognized though that with the enemies all being elites and purples, the fastest way to do this mission would be with a sniper build, and if anyone was going to do it, who else but me? So thank you again, it means a lot :)
If the talent worked in a way that you could continuously chain headshots together, and then still land a body-shot kill, and go back to landing headshots, then yes, I could still get this time. The problem with the "fix" was that you had to alternate headshots and bodyshots to keep it up, and they obviously reverted that because it was not the intention. As long as the talent let's me one-shot the robot dogs, heavy helmets, and the occasional enemy who just has their foot exposed, then yes, this time is still achievable. Take a look at my other videos, aim isn't the problem, I just need the talent to enable me to kill enemies without heads occasionally without losing Headhunter
@@VincentAmos-hs3sx all I'm trying to say, is even if the talent wasn't in its current cheesy state, it would still be very possible to get this time. There are only a few instances of me killing targets when their head isn't visible, and for targets that don't have a head, I don't chain kills against them back to back anyways, so I'd still be able to reactivate the talent between kills.
Are you calling Determined cheating? Or Hotshot for the free reloads? Or are you claiming some sort of aimbot because that's wildly untrue, I miss a huge amount of shots in this video for any of that to be going on. Honestly it just sounds like you're upset because of someone else's success. Not a good look.
@@swift4010 Determined talent is like cheating, sorry. You don't have to be able to do anything except kill your opponent with body shots. The bonus from Hotshot has nothing to do with this. And I don't begrudge you for making Tidal Basin legendary.
@@David_Jupiter if this was made a month after the talent got released, maybe you'd have a point. But we've had determined for over a year now. If the devs really thought it was too powerful, it would have been changed by now. There's no argument that Determined is cheating more than using any other talent in the game.
This run has been officially verified by the speed running community. I can assure you there were no cheats. And Headhunter lasts for 30s after each kill, so as long as you move from place to place fast enough, you can keep the stacks.
