Tifa Repairs Cloud's Mind FFVII Original Game 

i dunno about deserve but they need each other a lot

The just have to end up together, not only does it feel right, but it's also a loving relationship

@@lastprimaris7914 they do in the original game

Believe me, i feel similar. But somehow. SOMEHOW! A long death girl who he met and know for a month or so is considered better suited even though Cloud suffered from a split personality disorder. Like, hello? Where was Aerith when Cloud was about to fall from the Shinra tower, does Aerith even have the key to pull the things we saw in this video? I really highly doubt it. It's embarsing to see people try so hard to proof a point how Cloud cant survive without Tifa

@@MrInuhanyou123 Are you refering to the Ultimania of 2010? I read it, it's quite a puzzle but im pretty sure they said something about Cloud and Tifa confessing without using strong words like I love you, correct?

Holy crap, Clouds mindscape being literally clouded (it's gonna hamper the graphics rendering but I believe the devs can make it happen) that's a good idea

They will probably just surround everything with ghosts.

@@michaelcarnevale103 that is, if aerith lives... 😂😂😆

This shit is gonna be so intense in remake. They are really nailing the relationship between cloud and Tifa

Yea about that...

This is real true love story, not bulsyiit gold saucer date

taufik chandra i always have dates with my friend (of course she’s not my girl friend at all), a date mean nothing

absolutely! and i like how the remake implies his infatuation with Aerith stems from Zack...

Christopher Gore not against aerith and cloud romance but the substance sort of dies out if aeriths only reason for liking cloud is “ i knew someone like you”

Jessie

Yep.

The face of "oh no, I left the oven on".

Its the best

I mean, the dude is in a Vegetable estate so that's normal

@@moisesdeoliveira6312 it's still hilarious, imo.

True Love ❤️

I've made this point in many places - all calls to action in Clouds hero's journey are facilitated by Tifa Lockhart. She is his inspiration to leave home and join SOLDIER. She finds him on the sector 7 platform and gets him involved in avalanche. She saves him from the lifestream so he can save the world. She sees through Cloud's facade to the selfless hero underneath from the moment he follows her onto that bridge when they are kids on. The course of the game only reinforces her feelings as he becomes the hero she knows he really is.

AArdW01f God tifa is just such a great character!!she never gave up on cloud, when Tifa was little she wanted Cloud to become her hero but it turned out to be the other way around, Tifa became his hero✨the way their love develops through the game is the defenition of a “slow burn”.

ierdnA adrecaL i think it’s due to personal preference and also denying facts stated by developers/Ultimanias and twisting the meaning of said statement/facts. I always saw the Clerith ship as the “fantasy” and saw the Cloti ship as the “reality” and recently a lot of people have been agreeing to that.

@@xzvmakiz5171 yes, in the OG, Aerith represents fantasy and Tifa represents reality. In the first part of the game, Cloud is not himself. He believes that he was in Soldier First Class, strong, confident and the hero who save the damsel. Aerith is included in this fantasy because she let him play the hero part. Cloud also have a 16 y/o mind & heart even his 21 y/o. Boys like this state of mind is easily to fall in love or attracted. Then Aerith dies this represents that Cloud don't need this kind of fantasy but to face his reality which is Tifa( to face Tifa for what really happened 5 years ago. He didnt made in Soldier and his a shame for himself). Tifa known Cloud since childhood. Even they're not that close but after the promise they attraction to each other go strong. Tifa never give up on Cloud. She always helps him, protect him and support him. Tifa accepts Cloud for who he is, in his worst & best.

That's not his mind. Tifa had the same traumas at the same time and did not build fake memories. The Mako did it.

@@XElhirrimX It is. The Mako just made his memories even harder for him to connect to each other. Tifa was the only link that allowed Cloud to finally complete himself.

@@ultrixsoma2736 absolutely bothing in the game or the compilation said his memories were confused because of the psychological trauma. Not a single line. The mako sickness did this. It's explicitely said that it affects memories. Just like with the other Hojo experiments that complitely lost their consciousness.

Sephirot; No matter how hard i tried, ive never could scape reality, of what happened here. That, was my downfall. Cloud: Sephirot... Is that you? Sephirot: You tell me Cloud: Im done playing games sephirot. Sephirot: Oh i assure you, this is not a Game. It takes a strong man, to deny whats in front of him and if the truth is unbearable, you create your own.

well Cloud suffers of PTSD and accuses himself of the death of Zack. he literally even takes the words of Zack too seriously by being him his Living Legacy by becoming him. i think that cloud punishes himself by becoming Zack

Aerith's death is iconic scene that is why people always thinks. But for me other than that when I hear or read FF7, Cloud and Tifa are always in my mind.

I am glad i am not the only one, i have always loved this scene the most since last time as it was a really turning point of the story where Cloud coming to terms with the truth and the whole revelation of the past is revealed in detail. Plus there is small appearance of Zack as well showing care for Cloud as a friend. I am looking forward to this scene more than the other in the remake

I would say vincent xD

I'm saddened by Aerith's death but this one feels different. It's not some groundbreaking or shocking event like Aerith's death but this one shows the depth of relationship of the characters. It shows the emotion and their bond. Truly magnificent.

Same here, many kind of feel when I watch their story. Aerith's death is iconic, but most tearfull scene is here. How cloud faced the experience of his life and how tifa tries to support cloud however he is and tell him he's not fighting his life alone.

Mako not even once

Me on DMT

These edibles ain’t shit

I can't...

One drugs, please

eternia reginleif unlike Aerith, most of Tifa’s scenes are loneliness and sadness.

@@unnoptan5810 Like if losing your mom at a young age, having your dad killed by Sephiroth, losing your bar, your home, your friends isn't bad enough

@@hathaway.1166 and yet aerith fans who are messed up in the head downplay that. Saying tifa is jealous of aerith. SHE IS JEALOUS. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. 🤦‍♀️

Beautiful

@ierdnA adrecaL "supposed"

Tifa loves Cloud...and Cloud in turn loves Tifa. Its so obvious!

Yes, I agree with your opinion .. Hopefully in this remake, this scene is made more touching the feelings of players, showing a deep bond and love between Cloud and Tifa. so that Clerith has no more reason to brag or bullshit ..

@@ekawiyani1089 i mean thats how fandoms work...cloti even before the remake was pretty definitive but the war has continued for 20 years. Even if they were made even more obvious it would not be any different to the fandom wars

@@MrInuhanyou123 yeah, liking a character is fine, or liking any pair of ships is fine, but I think if it is too much it will bring negative impacts

@@ekawiyani1089 Speaking of braging. I met this really rude and obnoxious Clerith fan that downplayed Cloud and Tifa as "Brother and sister" relation. I found how he/she behaved and said BS theories and insulting other users so rude i had to use the Will Smith "im sorry I am alergic to bullshit" and then had the balls to call me stupid while his shouting nonsense, insulting others and completely denying some cons of Cloud and Aerith? i feel as of late some people are super salty. How am i supposed to belief Cloud and Tifa are brother and sister after having a tender moment like this? Like, when or when do siblings ever talk and communicate like this? Seriously, Tifa is way into Cloud, she is just not so open about it.

I've been looking for this kind of comment because no one was talking about that line huhuhuhu

People are crazy as hell to ship anyone outside of these two as a couple swear ill fight that to the grave.

@@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s I never understood why square never made them an official couple

@@darkshadowsXtreme ffvii is not a love story tho

@@solgaleooflight8703 doesn't have to be a love story to make them a couple

Wow,well said

Great analysis 👍

Great comment. People are either caught up in the waifu or shipping debate. The real reason why Tifa is a great character is not because she is a beautiful woman that can kick ass and a love interest for the protagonist. Everyone in FF VII suffers from a sort of survivors guilt as well as trauma from it. Tifa barely holds herself together and is so scared to ruffle her relationships with basically anyone but especially by confronting Cloud so much that the whole of FF VII could have been solved in Midgar if she just insisted on talking to Cloud. Instead, she has her heart "locked" as she is afraid. Her doubting herself and Cloud is a major part of FF VII and that comes from weakness. It seems that few people understand that FF VII is great because everyone is a mess and has major flaws and learn to accept, deal or learn from them. The rebirth trailer has Tifa actually confronting Cloud about her part in the Nibelhiem incident, which is perhaps something major, or not.

You see they are already laying out this for Tifa in the remake perfectly. You can see that she is greatly troubled by her past, and it is not hard to see the reason she wants to have Cloud around is not entirely altruistic. She needed Cloud because he is to her the last memento of her lost home, he reminds her that she had a peaceful life before (at this point she probably doesn’t associate Cloud with the Nibelheim incident yet). No doubt she found Cloud in the same situation as the OG, that is why she doesn’t want to stress him the details and instead just want to keep him around. Her character is contextualised even more via her interaction with Barret in the remake. They have an interesting dynamic: they both lost homes to fiery destruction caused by Shinra, they live like a family and care for Marlene, and build a life together. They act like a married couple, to be fair, Tifa shared more of her life with Barret than with Cloud at this moment. But through Barret we can see that Tifa is greatly in need of stability and a place to belong, otherwise she couldn’t move on from her loss in Nibelheim. In the Yuffie DLC there is a scene where Tifa rushed off to investigate Don Corneo’s men when she heard that they are probably after Barret, which lead to the Wall Market dressing up shenanigans. The remake made it clear that Tifa decided to do this on her own without consulting Barret, and the scene comes up right after Cloud’s supposed death in sector 5’s bombing, so her motivation was most likely to protect Barret, not wanting to lose yet another close friend. If you read the novel On the way to a smile, after the ending of FF7 OG, the party disbanded and only Cloud, Tifa and Barret remain together, with Barret only left after they had rebuilt another bar with the promise to return after he had settle his own issue. This context is important as we see this in remake where the trio look upon the ruin of sector 7 and talk about building another bar. The three characters share the same struggle to find stability and peace in their lives, haunted by the events of their past all the while. That’s why it’s important to understand character romance are sometimes not just about attraction and chemistry, because I would argue Tifa has better chemistry with Barret, yet they never have a romance, while living the closest thing to a married life. Tifa struggle to live with Cloud between FF7 and Advent Children because she admit she doesn’t know him that well and his memory of Aerith’s death was a huge roadblock to their romance as well. But she tolerated all of that because ultimately she had achieved a semblance of peace living with Cloud, and similar to Barret, she shares with Cloud the sad memory of witnessing Aerith’s death and the lingering guilt of causing destruction and death on their path to pursue Shinra and Sephiroth, that is ultimately what made her relationship with Cloud work.

And for all that, the best moment if Tifa is when she slaps the crap out of Scarlett.

Andy ho yep

Cloud's iconic glazed donut eyes.

he's more like: xgnxhlkhjwbesje

This is fine

He tripping over why he’s in a wheelchair

webguy943 the doctor did not die. Come back to mideel after this. You’ll find him and the nurse perfectly fine

@@marksantiago9841 how did he get out of the building?????!?!?

@@webguy943 he teleported

@@webguy943 ultra instinct

@@webguy943 returning from last save spot

Part 3 is going to be epic

Fun fact: Zack was originally intended to be the main character. Cloud and everything he brings with him to the story was all a last minute change. Just like Zero in Megaman; Capcom played it safe instead of following their passion (a red bomber)

​@user-jw9jf2bz7v But this part has already been spoiled in the remakes. Hojo pretty much spoils it in Remake.

@@LordMalice6d9 not to the people who never played the game

Well, trooper. Not soldier but yeah

Better than all the other weeb trash that the series is known for. FF7 broke the mold due to its amazing story and hilarious moments.

@@TonyPajamaz It's still kinda anime looking tho.

@@TonyPajamaz ff7 is a fantastic game but imo it's one of the biggest examples of anime influence compared to what came before it

@@tgrgjii8076 yeah I was bouta say like this was the most anime ff game when it came out😭

@akirafaris Facts bro, tho i'm torn between this and ff ix in that aspect

Imagine how the remake of the masterpiece like this would be

We did experience this whole situation in Crisis Core, you know. xD But yeah, I know you're referring to the FF7 remake, I hope they put a lot of thoughts into this one :)

Hell yeah my favorite part as well.

Agreed

28:59 is my favorite part. I can just imagine them closing up to Cloud and then panning out with him screaming as he see's that his former hero turned his village into a living hell

The dude needs a psychiatrist.

He just needs to cry his eyes out, marry Tifa officially and then leave with her where not even Sephiroth can find them (this last is kind of impossible, but platonically beautiful)

Just like Roxas in Kh he lost Xion, he was manipulated, deprived of answers, and lastly, he lost all that he knew until Sora gave it back

Yes. It’s too dangerous to stay at a place of suffering.

Barret takes care of the kids? 😂 But yeah, they should go to Costa del Sol or maybe Cosmo Canyon or Wutai so they can be in a neutral place. Just the two of them 😏

True. Part of what makes Cloud so great as a hero is that he is a flawed human being. With everything from, trauma, personality, to even dare I say physical problems at one point and just like a real living soldier he copes with these things best he can. Sometimes failing, but with help from others and that instinct to live, he manages to pull through. He might have some Post Stress Disorder, hell multiple disorders definitely depression, but that only makes him more amazing because: it's a real reaction. Ff7 is successful because it has a lot of real dark human truths, many of us can understand or have felt. Like Loss.Yet Cloud and Tifa show us, that we can through perseverance endure and rebuild. We can live on.

This is easily the most emotional and best scene in the game.

Avery Kane This scene is the main reason why Cloud is a better character than Zach despite many fanboys lauding over Zach as the superior protagonist. Zach is a Gary Sue who barely has any faults, while Cloud is a flawed and weak character initially who finally finds his footing. Much more dynamic by comparison.

@@SouljaStrife 11 Months old comment so maybe he won't respond, but I'll say that while Crisis Core had some major faults with its writing (The horrible antagonist given to Zack and the retconning of certain events), I think the biggest missed opportunity was not displaying how flawed Zack's optimistic outlook and idealism really was. He could've been played up as someone that really believed in Shinra propaganda, committing morally grey actions that he'd have difficulties trying to justify throughout the game until the final straw at Nibelheim. His final stand should not have had him look upon SOLDIER with any sort of reverence, and a line like "Defend your honor as SOLDIER" rung hollow when you consider just how much crap he's seen and dealt with regarding both Shinra and SOLDIER alike up to that point.

Dude why do so many people say shit is underrated when it isnt?

The theory going around is that Sephirtoth’s “blessing” that he gave to Cloud is the ability to perceive multiple realities, which explains why Cloud sees the rift but no one else can. That, our Cloud’s mental health is supremely fucked. Far worse than the OG

I laughed so hard at this, thank you

Can’t wait to see that part in remake eventually 😢

Adding a note to this several years later after MaxDood pointed it out. The background in this does have a tear similar to the alternate universe in Rebirth. Wow. Not sure what to think of that.

Skullof Rebellion well, he does actually have power of Soldier, i mean he can hold Sephiroth’s katana when he’s stabbed and throw Sephiroth off to the Mako. Also, he did get injected by Jenova’s cell after the Nibleheim tragedy, which is what makes Soldiers stronger. So, he does have the power of a Soldier, he just never admitted to the organization. He would’ve officially become a Soldier if Zack never wake up and saved him from Hojo’s experiment.

@@AtriasNaradan He didn't have the power of soldier when he picked up Sephiroth and threw him into the lifestream in Nibelheim. He was a regular infantry man who raised to the occasion to save the day. That's really what I meant

@@skullofrebellion6653 As someone else put it: "He had the mother of all adrenaline rushes."

Skullof Rebellion he was a regular infantryman, but he does turned out to have the required power to become a Soldier. That’s kinda the point of the Sephiroth throwing scene, even Sephiroth says “impossible” when Cloud lift him up by the Katana...Sephiroth was surprised because he never tought that Cloud to be that strong, because that’s the kind of strength that usually get someone admitted to become a Soldier. You don’t think that Soldiers are weak before getting injected by Mako energy right? They’re all have above average potential, that’s why they’re chosen to become Soldiers. Even after that scene, it proves further that Cloud was actually have the potential to be a Soldier, when Hojo pick him to received Jenova cell. That’s pretty much saying that Hojo wants to make Cloud a first class Soldier candidate, that can replaced Genesis and Sephiroth.

Skullof Rebellion also, your original post was obviously talking about the FF7 timeline Cloud, not the Crisis Core one. FF7 timeline Cloud is one that already got injected by Jenova cell...his achievements doesn’t fit to be the proof of what Biggs says, that you don’t have to be a Soldier to make a difference...because while Cloud is not a Soldier, he got the power of one.

dude... this is powerful. and yes, i create an illusionary world with problems created by myself on a daily basis. so i know what you are talking about.... it's also why ff7 is so dear to my heart now. it's unbelievable, but i actually only recently got into it. i missed out on a lot back then, never actually playing this game! crazy, but nowadays, i think so much about the depth of this story and the characters, specifically cloud, because i relate to him so much, even when i never faced such trauma, i can just identify with his character in itself. we all need healing... God bless you!!

@Águila701 i know right.

I fell in love when I was doing the crossdressing quest. This scene is my favorite in the entire game, even slightly edging out Aerith's finale and Sephiroth debuting in the pink swirly clouds as you hear One Winged Angel.

Not my first playthrough, since I hate to read and follow story. But then when my next playthrough, this scene made me tears.

That moment is so great

Or Barret.

That will propably became Barret's or Cid's line in the remake. I wouldn't put it past Yuffie either but it has to someone else than Tifa. It has a weirdly slapsticky tone to it.

@Aaron9 She said Zack was her first love, despite only knowing each other for like a day. She was kinda a hoe for him tbh...

@@pandiem Not to mention, she only met Cloud for like two weeks and started falling inlove with him too No offense tho

Aaron9 She confirmed Zack is her first love in remake

Aaron9 bruh

@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari he got rejected even in afterlife 😂

Technically she didn't notice him until he asked her on a date when they were kids, but yeah, definitely after that.

​​@@SyndicateOperative they used to be pretty close being that their mothers were friends. In nojima's trace of two pasts (where he talks in depth about tifa and aerith's childhood + both girl's friendship).

Not the climax of the game, but certainly the a0ex of Clouds character development.

They will. The fact that all of the lead developers on the Remake project (Nojima, Nomura, Hamaguchi, Uematsu) have all stated that their personal favorite moment in all of FF7 was this exact sequence. Seeing what they did with Tifa in Gonagaga with Rebirth, I have full faith in them that they’ll recreate this experience with an even deeper and more emotional impact. Remember, in the OG, Cloud accepts Aerith’s death when it happens. He doesn’t in Rebirth…

Four or so years to go! Sigh...

Came here just fantasizing about what it would be in 3,4...5? years... I really hope they don't fuck it up or overcomplicate it sigh

​@@marielverano2193 3 year the director says that

In the original FF7 didn't have Tifa. Only when decided to replace barret's death for Aerith is when the developers decided to create another female lead. She was the last character created.

@@LCardosed92 that would've been awkward if Barret were killed instead

Not without Cloud either

@@LCardosed92 true. But Aerith was created to be looking like Tifa first but it got rejected. Tifa was then created separately to be the perfect woman for Cloud.

@@kaage8780 It is the opposite. Aerith was supposed to be the perfect girl for Cloud. Cait sith predicted they would be a perfect match and even Cloud's mom told him the type of Aerith was going to be the ideal type for Cloud.

And accepting that he always was worthy for Tifa.

i feel like he didn't make peace yet at this time. only after advent children, he truly forgave himself i think.

@@justahuman9273 yes, I think so too. His face really change after AC event, that he has release all his burden.

We have 3 versions of this scene. FF7 // FF7 CC // FF7 BC (ova).

@@guts6310 Yeah but now I can't wait to see the new REMAKE VERSION of this part!

@ierdnA adrecaL That's FF7 CRISIS CORE!

Shame the remake was such a pos.

@@RyanJinxedCoffee What's that mean?

I wish everyone was this brave. In Jesus name ❤🕊❤️🕊

They have remained faithful to the original so far with Remake and Rebirth, minus a few additions and deeper story lore. No doubt this will be on there. Don’t forget, Cloud got a vision of himself on a black robe in Rebirth. Plus SPOILER What Cloud sees in the sky at the end of Rebirth is eerily similar to the starry white background in this sequence

Same here. Cody Christian & Britt Baron are gonna put on the most emotional and intimate moments in the conclusion. It's gonna be worth the wait 3 to 4 years from now.

Same same I can't wait

Yes I agree, although I connected to Cloud, I was furious when they accused Cloud of a crime he didn't commit. The village and Tifa's father believed he lured Tifa and the kids to hike up a dangerous hill when it was Tifa's own recklessness that put her in a 7 day coma and she didn't have the heart to tell the truth and so everyone believed a lie. I was also angry that the kids alienated Cloud especially Tifa who gave him the cold shoulders and she went along with it. I get they were childhood friends but not very close. As a result Cloud feeling useless for not saving Tifa, he started acting all Bravado, picked fights, dreamed of becoming a SOLDIER to try and impress Tifa, and acting as a cold person. I EXPECTED TIFA OUT OF ANYONE TO TELL THE TRUTH BUT DUE TO HER SHYNESS WAS PART OF THE REASON CLOUD BECAME INDIFFERENT TO EVERYONE AROUND HIM, PEOPLE WERE NO DIFFERENT THAN TIFA OR THE VILLAGE OVER TREATMENT.Finally, although it seems cruel it seems justifiable for the way he behaved by his childhood upbringing, he also gets his revenge albeit regretfully when he guarded Sephiroth when he tours the village 2 years later and then Sephiroth murdered everyone in the village including Tifa's father (minus Tifa) I hoped their cruelty was worth it knowing they died without ever knowing the real truth.

He's not broken at all, you can blame Hojo for everything done to cloud mind. Mako poisoning and Jenova cells aren't good for the body or mind. He's lucky to be alive to be honest. Cloud in shinra was pretty sweet guy with nice personality. You can see him in crisis core.

@@TehReasoning he's definitely has issues pertain with his own psychology, he felt inferior (always not good enough to deserve happiness or to win notice), when the pressure he put on himself became too much, he would have mental break down and need his family and friends to pieces him whole again. Jenova cell and mako poisoning made his bad side more apparent, imho. On Crisis Core he was still young, just joined SOLDIER, but the purpose of it was stemming from his need to prove himself to Tifa, if he's strong enough he wished Tifa to notice him. We also remember he can't socialize with kids of his age on his village, he felt 'different'. Thus combined with other personas (through Jenova cell and mako poisoning) he became more not of himself/corrupted. After he regained himself thou, we finally find his good side; which are loyal, helpful, collected, determined, and so on. Still when his bad side triggered and got the best of him, he will again facing mental breakdown like what happened to him after the meteor, before Advent Children.

@@monicasuprantio7371 Cloud has what we in the real world would call "Dissasociative Identity disorder" or "DID".

@@jasonle9596 Thank you. I really never understood why people would romanticize child Cloud's love for Tifa as being beautiful when in fact it was born out of isolation, guilt and a superficial belief of superiority. And after he regains back his memories, present Cloud is supposed to take child Cloud's love as real? It boggles the mind that people just believe this. I'm just stunned. That is just dark. Is Cloud some-kind of masochist? I appreciate that Tifa journeyed through the lifestream to help Cloud find his memories back, but I always wondered why now after Cloud has become so broken with not just lost memories but doubts because of Sephiroth telling him he nothing but a clone. Why wait until the last moment when there was no other options left? I never understood this. Cloud went through so much torment... In the first place, it was Tifa's fantasies that the mako emulated which is the reason Cloud created a separate persona, he used Zack as base, because that seems to be what Tifa fantasizes about... and that's supposed to be touching... I really can't relate.

Well it was confirmed by the creators that Aerith did grow attracted to the real Cloud that she could see within and (somehow) became more attracted to him than she was to Zack. Though on the rest I agree. This scene and the events that lead up to it just instantly made me love Tifa. Believing in Cloud even when everyone else thought he was a traitor, staying behind to be at his bedside and nurse him back to health, helping him rebuild his fragmented mind....I know that Cloud's mom wanted him to have an older girlfriend that would take care of him and Tifa might not be older, but she DEFINITELY fulfills the far more important taking care of him requirement. Holy shit, Cloud....dude....what are you waiting for? Get this woman a ring now you fool!

Yeah it seems so. Actually, this scene made sense to what Aerith told Cloud during the date scene. During that time, he still playroled as Zack, hence why she saw Zack in him... But she realized she wasn't Zack, and wanted to know Cloud. ("I want to know... You" so that You is revealed to be the real Cloud)

@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari It goes deeper than just attraction unfortunately. Apparently in one of the expanded universe novels that takes place before Advent Children, I think it was Maiden who travels the planet but I'm not 100% on that, Zack meets Aerith again in the Lifestream and tries to start again with her, but Aerith isn't having any of it. She says that she and Zack could never be in a serious relationship because of his womanizing habits. (Zack was described by Aerith as a lady's man/playboy in the original game) She basically tells him that he's not long term relationship material and that she prefers the shy and honest type like Cloud. So really no matter who Cloud chooses (I always choose Tifa because...again...after disc 2 how could I not?) Zack is shit out of luck because Aerith has put him securely in the friendzone. His only option is to wait around and hope that Aerith eventually warms up to him again. That's essentially what he's doing in Advent Children, sticking to her like glue and trying to win her over so that she'll give him a second chance. His prospects aren't looking good. I'm hoping the remake gives us the option to change this, because honestly Zack deserves more credit than that.

@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari Oh I completely agree. From what I've read, the writers basically wrote the love triangle so that the player ultimately decides who Cloud loves in the end. So if the person playing decides he loves Tifa, then he loves Tifa. If the person playing decides that he loves Aerith, then he loves Aerith. For those who do ship Cloud and Aerith together, it's implied that Cloud and Aerith have a spiritual connection that they can use to see each other whenever they want and that Cloud will be reunited with her when he joins the lifestream and finds her in the promised land after death. Personally I never liked Cloud and Aerith as a couple because I just find the idea of two lovers waiting to be reunited in death incredibly depressing. Plus like you said, Tifa did so much for Cloud by the end of the game and their relationship felt so strong to me. So I've always thought of them as a couple by the end of the game. The both of them deserve some happiness after all of the shit they've been through. Still though, while Cloud's feelings are up to the player to decide, the feelings of the two girls aren't so up in the air. Both Tifa and Aerith are completely in love with Cloud. This unfortunately means that poor Zack is left hanging. He gets to travel the lifestream with the girl he likes, but also knows that same girl would rather be with his best friend...Poor guy can't catch a break.

@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari Yeah Cloud shares a spiritual connection with both Zack and Aerith. I'm pretty sure Square intentionally wrote this in so that people could interpret the connection in different ways depending on how they viewed the character relationships. Square always does that when it comes to the couples in VII, giving some hints to each one without ever fully committing to either. Like they'll say Cloud wants to meet Aerith in the promised land, but they never say why and it's up to us to decide why he would want to see her again. For some people the answer is simply that he loves her and wants to be with her. I always saw it as Cloud wanting to see her again simply to make sure she was okay and to ask her forgiveness for failing to save her. Square did also have Tifa and Cloud living together after the game, but they never actually confirm whether or not they're a couple and it's left to us to decide what their relationship really is. That's the thing with VII's love triangle. We'll never get a straight answer as to which pairing is canon because both of them can be canon. It's just up to each player to decide which pairing they prefer. You don't have to apologize for the whole Zerith thing. I actually agree with you and like Zack and Aerith as a couple too. Unfortunately though it seems like Aerith won't return his feelings. Square has decided that she has to be kept available for anyone who would choose to ship her with Cloud and that means poor Zack is out of luck.

I can’t wait to see their scenes in 4K finally 🥹

Wish i could be as excited as you are. I have no confidence in them after seeing how disappointed i was with rebirth's adaptations.

@@FreeFlow__ weird, I didn't know kissing on the skywheel gives you zero confidence in them lol

@@FreeFlow__ ohh🥲

xD damn, this will never get old!

Yes.

I really hope we get a happy cloud x Tifa finale as it should be

We can assume they did it after Tisa said "Cloud... Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking..." right ? I can't wait to see this moment in the remake, but problably not until at least a third game.

@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari They crossed the line in the game and did it at the end.

@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari This is what they said just before the nigh falls, "Cloud: Hey Tifa...... I...... There are a lot of things I wanted to talk to you about. But now that we're together like this, I don't know what I really wanted to say... I guess nothing's changed at all... Kind of makes you want to laugh... Tifa: Cloud... Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking... " After this there is even another hint from Cid who's making fun of them saying that he saw them from the Highwind with Barret and Red. On what Tifa puts herself in a corner kneeling and her head in her hands embarrassed as never. ^^

@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari I think this scene will be even more suggestive in the remake

Highwind scene canon.

And did

It will, and I argue the stakes are now even higher than before. SPOILERS This sequence will for sure be in part 3, but guess what? There will be an additional section: Cloud learning the truth of what happened at the Forgotten Capital - the truth regarding Aerith

Those three events are which really pays my attention whenever I plays the game

2. was great because Cloud was so sure of himself that you believe him, until you see Tifa's reaction and realize its true.

I still remember the first time playing this game in high school when this game came out, #2 really bugged me out because I felt REALLY bad for both Cloud and Tifa. Tifa's odd choices of words whenever Cloud brings up the past starting to make sense and Cloud completely loses his mind, and poor Tifa just collapses in defeat. In my head I could just imagine Tifa crying the entire time feeling like she lost Cloud forever. I can't wait how they pan this out in future installments of the Remake.

Coasting you’ll see soon enough

That was meh at best. Waaayyy too much side padding.

Unfortunately for you if u dont want to get spoiled everything will change go watch ending of remake if u want to know why

@@wholesome_masochist4113that was the point lol expanding the world of FF7 via a remake and FF7R is not "meh" its amazing i replayed it still the most polished FF game in the last 20 years

@@mykise1652it will not be changed because multiple universe will exists

If they stick to the original story, yes. If not... Well... We'll see what happens!

Agreed... hope they develope but not change it

Nadia Nayebzadeh This comment aged badly ... Sadly a ending wasted this part

One year later.....nop

@@Jfray252 They would still do this part in the future games

At least. It'll be the end of the remake trilogy and it'll be nuts

It’s worth it. The team COOKED with Rebirth. Another 2-3 years isn’t too bad. Plus, most of the world is already built. Only the northern continent is missing, so it shouldn’t take them terribly long. I’m willing to bet we get a teaser no later than early next year

Have your tissues close by!

good thing SE is really pushing cloud+tifa relationship in the remake, never liked aerith tbh lol.

Those ppl never played Crisis Core. It's the proof that Aerith and Zack are the soulmates

@Kosename preach sir they dont wanna accept fairith canonicity (fairith = i combined aerith with fair, zacks last name, cuz i couldnt combine zack with aerith to make a nice ringing ship name anyway bye)

because they are blind and still cannot accept the fact that Cloud's first and last love is only Tifa ..

@@demonking86420 Crisis Core was never that good a game. It reasons many story elements from the original FF7. Then you have Genesis who is one of the most non-essential characters in the entirety of the FFVII compilation modelled after a J-pop artist Gackt. Aerith knew that something was not right about Cloud. She knew that the Cloud she was with was not the real Cloud and their date at the Gold Saucer proves this, when she says she wants to meet the "real you".

Same lmao

Not me. I hear her abridged voice actor.

Rofl

I think for Rebirth II, Aerith will play role in how they get to this moment. She's searching for the real Cloud and can't find him. That's because Tifa is the only one who can find him.

Saunitries it left me speechless. It almost caused me an existential crisis

Yep! He just wasn't himself since what Hojo did to him.

That sick hojo is the blame for what is happend to cloud . I hate hojo

​@@gibbs615yep and despite it he still found her and she found him

@@awtodor True that

Moon Door Agree Zack and Aerith are like parents guidance ,quality life lesson and inspiration from both. Zack tell Cloud that he is his living Legacy of "freedom" Aerith inspires him to fight furthur through love even both are already dead their efforts event effect cloud still.

Moon Door aerith also never lived the true Cloud, she never met him.

Nate W he never moved on. Tifa is his first love and only love.

Then both give birth to a kid named Noctis

I don’t know, there’s cases to be made for both women. But honestly this whole love triangle is so ambiguous it’s truly frustrating. Aerith seems to like Cloud, but she’s in the Lifestream with Zack. Tifa seems to like Cloud, but they don’t sleep in the same bed, and at times acts like a mother to him. Hopefully the remake makes it clearer on what they all feel for one another.

Can't wait too :)

@@xzvmakiz5171 when you see how beautiful they made a lot of their scenes in the first part of the Remake then i think future parts with their moments like the Highwing scene will be amazing :)

I can't wait to see this part in REMAKE MODE too! lol

@@hraberuka2847 What even makes you think this scene will even be recreated in the next "remake" installment When the truth about Cloud has already been spoiled to death, even to knew FF7 players?

@@hraberuka2847 I hope that the remake focuses a bit more on Cloud and Tifa's relationship from a romantic angle when appropriate. Because if you were to pick two people that are THE embodiment of the word "soulmates", it's probably Cloud and Tifa.

Yeah, it's weird, I guess others assume that the only thing people care about Tifa is her character design. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Tifa's design as much as the next guy but she is SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT, she is SUCH a big part of Cloud's character, if she hasn't there, Cloud wouldn't be who he is during the game.

What's lovely about her is that she cares about other people in such a sister or mother like way... And cares about Cloud more even after she knows what the hell happened. On top of that she's a hand-to-hand combatant with awesome skills in Remake. Seriously, that's awesome!!

@@PepeOPT1 if you mean her melons, I dont see a big deal of them. Who doesn't like boobs? Not Japan nor me(At least I am honest). Despite that, Cloud has no idea how lucky he is. A brawler, a supporter, hell, even good looking. I'm jealous even though is just a game.

@@Fugeta20 Ofc there's nothing wrong with her having a big chest, it's one of the reasons why I love her design. What I'm saying is that people who don't play the game and don't know Tifa's character and relationship with Cloud instantly assume that she's just a "anime girl with big tits" solely based on her design. And yes, I also was EXTREMELY jealous when I was a kid AND EVEN MORE NOW WITH REMAKE.

because they are stupid and also blind, so they don't like Tifa ..

They foreshadowed it at the Corel reactor, so I think they're doing it.

@@MMuraseofSandvich Hi there haha. I played rebirth too and I don't have doubt anymore. They dared to show us very creepy stuff in rebirth. So Im confident they will not shy away Cloud trauma.

@@genevievelaplace7301I would argue Cloud is in an even WORSE state of affairs after Rebirth than he was in the OG. Not just because of him suppressing his memories, but also him refusing to accept Aerith is gone. I’m willing to bet they will add a new section to the life stream sequence that deals with the events of the Forgotten Capital. And they will show us everything we saw in the OG and Advent Children that we didn’t get to see in Rebirth: Laying her body to rest, and the party mourning her loss

@@dr.edwardrichtofen365 I sense that to. Lets hope the dev don't forget that.

they gonna say this is "Optional" 🤪

@@sembarangjaknama indeed 😂

I bet Clerith fans arent even going to play part 3 😂

​@@sora_escandar222 dude. they dont even play Rebirth. most of them only watch the cutscene and making assumption based on that.

She was bullying him, she's in love with him becquse he want to be like sephiroth, unlike aerith she's lived him becouse he's cloud

Tifa did really love Cloud truelly. She never bully him. At first as kids they where not so close. It seem Tifa had not notice him by that time where she had her gang of male admires and had her personal problems. It was mention that Tifa's mother died and she was a kid. So she was not emotionally well. Cloud's perspective as them as kids was that Tifa did not let him in the group but he didn't explain if this means she ignore him or she let the other male admires gang control the group dynamic of not letting him in the group with Tifa.This affected Cloud a lot. But Cloud still work his way to be notice by her by showing his bravery to be with her and his promise to be 💪 stronger and return to protect her. This promise happend because Tifa did accepted Cloud's invitation to go on the well with him and only them. The game don't give information that Tifa was a fan of Sephiroth as a kid. Cloud was the one that hear of Sephiroth and was who admire him and wanted to be like him. Then after the game show Tifa missing and waiting for Cloud to return. She even mention she constantly ask herself how was him and look on the news to constantly to know about it. Thisbdemosttate her felling and compromise to know of Cloud. Later on Tifa recognize him on the street / Train Station on Midgar etc when Cloud was just totally unconscious and is inferred that she took him to her place and was who offer him the mission of Avalanche. Later she loyally follow him and even avoided to argue with him about the events Cloud mention to had happend in cosideration of Cloud well-being. Then she did not gave up on him. Even seeing how ustable, fragile and problematic Cloud was by his mental problem. She really stayed. Is a love that had grow evolve to have all elements of cosume 💘. On the game she show it and the squaresoft staff confirm that there love between Tifa and Cloud (both ways). Same gose with Cloud and Aerith. They did love each other too but it is a difrent love and one that by circumstances they could not be together in life anymore. We all miss lovely Aerith.

@@user-tq3zr9wj8i are you stupid ?

@@user-tq3zr9wj8i well then u should be glad cloud wanted to join soldier to impress tifa, if not cloud would never have met aerith😐

@@marsirenas don't bother, he/she just one of those worshipper 🤦‍♂️

Literally yes I say this all the time. the story alone carried the game even tho the graphics weren’t great the story itself is just amazing

Svnnh Bnna greatest game of all time

Damn... Tifa is literally too good for Cloud that he should die for

@@night00glider Cloud helped her friends, and sacrificed his mental state to save her from Sephiroth, they're nobody is "too good," for anyone here.

@@night00glider mean he should go die bcs tifa is too good for him? sorry eng is not my first language

@@DarkLordofTheRizz is it his or her friends?

Zexion Steins English isn’t my first language too haha, I meant that, if anyone Cloud should be risking his life for, its Tifa, like how he has done when he was a child...

Holon you might be onto something

Oh shit, well spotted

HOLY

Wait that shit is actually lifestream all along

Dont look up!