tik tok is a dystopian fever dream (tube girl effect, tik tok shop, and npc trend) 

True it is not of public politeness

It's 10 times worse tho since you end up on the internet 😭

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Omg I'm so glad to see people say this 😅. I tried to voice this opinion on TikTok when everyone was making tube girl videos and Istg I got roasted so hard people were acting like I was completely delusional for thinking this way. I thought everyone went crazy cus nobody understood me. I just don't want to be filmed and uploaded online for a potentially VIRAL video as a background character for you to satisfy your stupid main character syndrome, when I'm tired and omw to school/work/home. It's not that hard to understand really.

stop I was out snowboarding last week and while my mom and I were in the lodge some girl was blaring tiktoks with no headphones in so I loudly said "UGH I HATE PEOPLE WHO SCROLL TIKTOK WITH NO HEADPHONES IT SHOULDNT BE SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE" loud enough for her to hear and then my mom got kinda mad at me but it was worth it

Boom

This part

Harmful lol

Yup

I really wish more (young) people were able to find meaningful idols and people to aspire to be like instead of this shit. I've just started working as an anesthiologist and the colleagues I appreciate most are never those who are the loudest and the center of attention. It's those with tons of experience and a very quiet confidence. It's those people who are so confident in what they do that they make me feel more confident in what I do with their mere presence. All this crap is so empty and shallow and I really think you have to be very young and/or immature to see it as aspirational. It's simply naive, idk how else to describe it (without trying to sound arrogant).

Social media also confuses the meanings of love and lust in relationships. Instead of having women truly appreciate their boyfriend's company, we see them acting like wild pornstars in the name of temporary love happiness ... Please!😒🙄 Women wanting to look "good" for fame and money is also NOT something new.

I feel like a lot of apparent extroverts are just hopelessly insecure and constantly seeking external validation tbh.

I feel like a lot of apparent extroverts are just hopelessly insecure and constantly seeking external validation tbh.

I’d go as far as calling it “confidence vs arrogance” which is something I heard not long ago. They are incredibly arrogant, selfish and self centered, but they seem incapable of holding the space to really think about what they’re doing because they’re busy mimicking everybody else for their 15mins of fame. And really, this extremely toxic algorithm which is showing people just one side of things ain’t helping the cause. I can see how social contagion is playing a role here, and although it’s obviously way more complex than just saying “they don’t got a personality of their own”, I still cant’t justify their dumb (even harmful) ass behavior. It really does feel like looking at a dystopian side of the planet, and they do remind me of the capitol citizens (hunger games movie) when I see them out and about. Sorry not sorry, this is the only space where I can share how I truly feel bout this

💯being the most confident person in the room doesn’t mean you have to be the loudest in the room

I have a resting face and worry this might happen to me out in public 🫠

@@ArletteAletseSame. 😭

100% this

That's why it's best to just stay away from it completely

I have a resting face and worry this might happen to me out in public 🫠

Mask user💀

​@@ville__What ??? 💀

first warning@@fabtrash

@@ville__keeping your nasty spit away from strangers isn’t psychotic behavior at least 😊

@@ville__your profile pic also has a mask idiot 😂

yes. i used to be really anxious, but now i'm like... average. in fact i even feel like i'm more confident than many people i know as i do very heavy goth makeup and idk, laugh loudly and stuff. still, this shit is incomprehensible to me. it's got nothing to do with being shy, it's just being a normal human being who has the bare minimum respect for the people around them as opposed to a vapid tiktoker who thinks she is the centre of the whole world. i hate being a hater but i can't be the only one who is weirdly uncomfortable with these people.

Yeah seriously lol, a person with clinical social anxiety, even of varying degrees, would never want to do this. I have social anxiety and for instance I get anxious just watching someone else do this trend.

Right! Like once the video is done do they not just go back to sitting normally and listening to music on their headphones? To contextualize how odd the behavior is I’d equate it to doing a backflip on the subway. Like sure nobody really cares but like it’s clearly not the appropriate environment.

for me it's different it's like I can do those big embarrassing things if someone dared me or I could get some kind of reward but talking to like two people at the same time feels nearly impossible sometimes

exactly its just an excuse they just want attention and im so tired of this crap

interesting take but wouldn't one argue that confidence can be compared to being more of muscle that one has to exercise in order to make that set muscle stronger? such actions of strenthening the muscle would be doing the trend such as the tube trend

@@Nativecurlsyeah that works better as a metaphor I feel since, confidence can wane and strengthen with experience and time put in.

Yes, that’s right, but I feel like the exercises that really strengthen the confidence muscles are the ones where you don’t draw artificial attention to yourself and then escape the situation but rather the “dining alone” thing. Because that’s the moment you’re really alone with yourself and your thoughts and you are hyper aware of the fact that people are perceiving you. And then you come to the conclusion that it ultimately doesn’t matter and that it’s okay to be alone or awkward or just yourself. But that’s just my personal take on it. :)

⁠@@NativecurlsI get what you’re saying but the tube girl trend isn’t actually a confidence builder. In the same way having a phone conversation on speaker in public is inappropriate, the tube girl trend is. The concept of being able to stand out in a crowd and not be afraid of judgement doesn’t translate into the trend BC it also encroaches on others’ space. Do you know what doesn’t? Shaving your head, wearing rainbow tights, or going to dinner by yourself. And if making videos of you dancing makes you feel confident- do it! but at the end of the day it’s a hobby and there’s an appropriate times and places.

it is just people with no conscious that want attention and have no consideration for people around them

THANK YOU!!! worded perfectly

I don't think it's a mental health issue as much as it's a dysfunctional coping mechanism for pre existing mental illnesses but otherwise I fully agree.

@@Shirumoon I think that certainly plays a part, especially with Gen Z and Gen Alpha having the highest recorded rates of anxiety and depression amongst all generations. However I also believe the intrinsic, intentional framework of social media is intensely corrupting on young minds - enough to be an issue in itself, as well as a catalyst for pre-existing conditions.

Also the type of content thats really popular makes it even worse for example the "humor" you see a lot in social media is kind of disheartening. lot of jokes and memes are about givin up and how shitty everything is and yes i get its a joke but when you get fed that mind set day in day out it starts to weigh you down. The comment sections dont help either. The way people can get into a fight about aboslutely everything baffels me and sets a horrible example of behaviour and human interaction to young kids.

​@@alisaoikarinen489 100% agree. Online there's no safe space, and people internalise so much nihilism and negativity that tribalism, doxxing, death threats, and disrespect of people/places for the sake of online clout look like normal behaviour.

Like yeah I am actually socially anxious, doing a tiktok dance won't fix it. I dress like an anime character already, making lots of people stare, that doesn't make me less scared of doing the talking to people.

totally agree

Like yeah I am actually socially anxious, doing a tiktok dance won't fix it. I dress like an anime character already, making lots of people stare, that doesn't make me less scared of doing the talking to people.

That's why I didn't like her saying you choose to be (not) embarressed. Girl that's not how emotions work. You can try and get desensitized but emotions are there for a reason and they're valid.

@@ville__ why do you copy paste my comment what

Especially with a selfie stick😭 oh the days

@@anyone1111 oh that was the worst of the worst 😩🤣

I still get embarrassed if I get caught taking selfie. I thought it was still a thing

i still get embarrassed 😭😭

Right omg and people made fun of you if they caught you like🙈😭

I deleted tiktok and twitter, and my attention span has recovered, now when i lisisten to people watching tiktok, it sounds schizophrenic, just random loud repetitive sounds. It is a psychological weapon. Delete it

@@ville__ Def agree!!!!

its actual brain rot. even me still using insta reels is insane

I’ve deleted tiktok recently and my attention span has also started to improve , honestly downloading it again doesn’t seem like an option

why tf did you repeat the same thing as them @@ville__

I'm better than Michelle 💀

and that's when digital minimalism come into play

Yes! The irony there is insecure ppl often mistake genuine confidence for arrogance or narcissism because they don't really understand where the self-acceptance of genuine confidence comes from lol. To make it even more ironic, narcissists are actually deeply insecure & shape their entire facade around trying to hide the fact that they're insecure.

Yes!!

I agree with you 110% like what in the world is wrong with humanity?!? Like wtaf is going on? I think humans are leading this toward extinction ngl. Like it’s getting out of control.

I've always tik tok as basically short form YT, which makes sense given how some of the trashy content you can find on tik tok I remember watching similar content on YT back in middle school.

I'm sure the projection of insecurities is gonna be wild once the new generations come

I am terrified bud😅😅 thats why i deleted tiktok lol it was insane enough 2020-2022 i couldnt take anymore

you're not alone i'm right there with you

yep

yep

This

Exactly. If there was no place to post tho, I dont think she would do it. The incentive here is going viral.

I think she meant when she record these videos like I guess u need to be very focused while doing them after all they're not cut/edited so u need to get them perfect in one shot

I mean... that's just a youth thing though isn't it? everyone is cringe when they're a teenager/young adult (I'm a millennial, I KNOW cringe), it's when the cringiness goes into your 30s that it's a problem lol

i mean theyre 13. telling them off would be a bit much lol

I don't think teenagers being cringe is the problem necessarily, but posting it on tik tok for attention and clout, as Madisyn said, doing things they wouldn't normally do because of the social media incentive.

@@ville__copy paste comment? LMAO???

Don't care cry

Yes

This is the best way to put it😂

lol that IS what it looks like! 🤡🤡🤡

oh no, your life is going to be average just like every generation before you! the HORROR 😱🤣

​@megsley just because every generation before was 'average' in a capitalist, individualistic society doesn't mean that its ideal. It is kind of a horror in some ways for some people

@@ju1esmay Thank you, the mentality that everyone else has to do it and so do you is BS, it’s called breaking the mold and making change, not being passive in your own life and the desire go after what you deserve. I don’t listen to people who try to belittle me if I expect a better life, they’re weird oppressors 🥴

@@megsley how dare people want better for themselves! crabs in a bucket mentality

Same, got rid of it a year ago and haven’t looked back ✌️

@@mumfriend2545got rid of mine too lol it’s been 1 month

I use to have TikTok like 3 years ago and my mental health was shit, once I got rid of it my mental health started to get better 😁

I remember realizing one day that it's just a thing that exists now and thinking ... wait, when did that happen? I just went on with my life. 27 and feeling like a boomer.

Right? I downloaded it. I’ve opened it maybe twice in a month? Either by accident or someone texts me a link to a clip 😂.

I've had it for like 2 days and it's a black hole of doom scrolling, literal brain rot. I need a "this is your brain on tiktok" ad

I've had it for like 2 days and it's a black hole of doom scrolling, literal brain rot. I need a "this is your brain on tiktok" ad

Literally no one is doin that

@@QuestionsIAskMyself Youre telling me... the person whos had it happen to them. lmfao. Want me to send you a video of people doing it to me for proof? like i swear yall are helpless

For me its im not the target audience there's nothing on there that im interested in there's no reason for me to have it same with twitter same with instagram i have a facebook for friends and coworkers and family and i barely use the actual app usually just messager

When you think about it, that's a pretty wild contrast. From an app?

@@Sorcerollo wild… how so

@Mdntwaffles Well, it sounds like a huge change. Improved mood, outlook, time for real friends, less stress. Just feels like these things are a big deal, ya know?

@@Sorcerolloyes , goes to show how detrimental it can be

@mdntwaffles me too :) the content i was being fed on tiktok was so bad for my mental health, and it took up way too much of my time. I still feel a little left out sometimes, or miss the beautiful art that I saw.... but the benefits far outweighed the negatives as I began living in the real world and developing healthy habits. I strongly reccommend deleting the app for anyone who is struggling with their mental health.

Too late tbh

Saying "stop" is pretty much weak at this point because this type of parenting has been normalized for a while and some parents really don't care. And I'm not saying that all parents don't really care no more these days but there the types of parents to go around and say "Hey, here's my phone. Go use it or whenever." Parents who just give out a device like that expecting nothing will affect the child is going to happen no matter what. You kinda setting up your child for failure. All depends on the child.

@@Daydreamerr13 New children are being born every single day, it's not too late. It's never to late to initiate change.

Ppl should really stop dictating what others should do

That episode scared the shit out of me when i was little

literally how

@@beepboop449 imo , ppl r so isolated on tt but they don’t rly realise it until their someone points it out - u may have a diff opinion abt it tho and that’s fine

I honestly have had enough. Its all abt money, clout, aesthetics and selling things now. Maybe I am naïve for wanting smth more, but it honestly feels like social media today, if not 100% fake, its pretty close to that. From people lying and scamming you with products, influencers photoshoping every inch of their bodies, lying abt their habits and selling a fake lifestyle, trying to get you to buy their courses or whatever, people staging pranks and “candid” videos for views, people paying to pretend they are on a private jet, on a podcast, on a yatch… it literally made me such a skeptical person. Its so overwhelming

The advertisements are insane now

The amount of advertising on there is crazy. RU-vidrs will at least let you know if a product is an endorsement or not, people on tiktok don’t care at all; they will advertise any random product to the max. Now I have 1kg of collagen powder because some nobody said it was great for weight loss. My fault 100% for even falling for it but luckily I’ve been off tiktok for a while

Literally 😭 I had to delete it

Thank you!!! Kids SHOULD NOT have free/unsupervised internet access!

​@@Kaybye555I remember having unsupervised internet access back in the late 2000s/early 2010s, and I remember stumbling across Happy Tree Friends and MLP pr0n 😭 supervise your kids

Most likely those kids that grew up with the internet with no bad experiences or forgot it are the ones that let their own kids watch it 😂

I monitor what my son does on his phone and RU-vid. He knows what he can and can't do. He doesn't have an social media yet either. I think 14 is way too young. He's a good kid and we trust him a lot.

​@@brieoshiroyoure a good parent ❤

Yea it’s weird that it’s the first thing to come to their mind smh

Capitalism

this did NOT happen gang💀💀😭😭

@@ithinkcats I wish it didn't

So true!

Thanku yes that's true

🤔mm food for thought!

I notice that most of the tube girls are conventionally attractive, skinnny, pretty, usually white or lighter skinned girls. And I can’t help but think that if they were a plus sized person of color that they’d get hated on and bashed and called attention seeking. I think in society there’s this expectation that you’re only allowed to be “loud and proud” or “be yourself” if you’re an attractive young person. Because unattractive people that step out and do similar things get called weird, get bullied and bashed for what they do.

Nah… you ATE THIS UP!

self concept 😊✅

Finally someone who can relate to this omg! I've been alone for so long dua to social anxiety that finally I started to do all the things alone that otherwise you'd do with others. From going to the café, to visiting concerts and go clubbing to doing month long trips abroad all by myself. It's funny how people will call me so brave and everything when they meet me there vs. the people at home like my bf (Mr. never doing stuff alone) who knows I'm an anxious mess and sometimes calls me out on it.

Literally same

same only yt and pintrest

That’s good. You’re not missing out on anything. What you are doing is rare so value that.

So true

YT and LinkedIn, which is its own dystopic landscape 😂

this!!!

this is a really really good point. And the way it has impacted the younger generation is scary

it was definitely the perfect storm

The fact that the pandemic killed a lot of businesses and the ones that are left are being gatekept by the ability to find transportation and money to spend once you get there means kids and a lot of adults don't have much to do EXCEPT lay in bed and scroll all day doesn't help

I feel exactly like you. Social media that requires me to show too much of my life makes me uncomfortable and honestly it's sad that you need to be on social media in order to be credible. I hope at some point being too much on social media becomes something people will consider before hiring you cause of wasting time, just like smoking became.

This is just gonna cause people to have multiple instagrams and facebooks. One for school /work and one for actual friends.

​@@IqueyYep, just like email. You have your edgelord9000@whatever for your friends, family, and everything else and your JohnSmith@pleasehireme for job applications

As a roller skater I relate!

tryna think like this!!!! i got a cruiser like a year ago but i've only really rode it on the street like twice because i'm so nervous of people watching. objectively i know no one cares and stuff but yeah i've gotta get over it or i'll never practise and improve lol and i'll keep making a fool out of myself for longer

Have you seen videos of that young woman with the big hair who walks through NYC zooming in on people’s faces to show their alleged reaction to her?

​​@@carebear8655wtf that is not ok. I caught a guy filming me on the bus and I threw his phone out the bus 😊

Lol same. I clicked on the video just to see what a tube girl is. I was like "what kind of tube?", "what do they use it for?", "is this a rule 34 thing?" 😂

Totally agree. Money and Attention/Validation.

Exactly. It's also what drives a lot of the negative content. Studies have shown the extremes often gains more clicks which is what everyone is after because going viral = potential money.

Yes!

Very true, people are willing to do the craziest things for money

That is the root of the dystopia for me. Even on Instagram Reels (I assume bc many of the videos are just TikTok re-uploads), you get the sense people are uploading anything that comes to their minds. Literally anything. It is so frustrating, especially when you see the same audio or stupid trends constantly trending for a time.

That’s crazy - I specially for a pizza place like whaaaat. Maybe for a social media role that would make sense

they probably wanted to check your socials to make sure you haven’t posted something that would make the company look bad by affiliation. (still a bad and invasive thing they shouldn’t be asking for) or it could be to check your socials once you’re hired to make sure you’re not doing things to the food and posting about it before delivering it. unfortunately that happens too

and what if you didn't have an Instagram account?

@@kittykittybangbang9367 i guess i would have to quickly make one bc i couldn’t submit my application without it included 💀

@@kittykittybangbang9367depending on if your resume seems trustworthy, and weighing the social implications of the role with it- you may get rejected if you can’t provide a handle. Some places will be totally fine with that, because the admission of not having social media means you will not be an immediate potential liability to the company. Some places want to co-opt your handle and social media spaces to further capitalize. It’s entirely up to you but read your contracts and job offers all the way through before signing anything or putting your handle down. It’s not illegal to refuse to disclose your handle and you can make your accounts private. Companies can’t do shht.

How did you delete it? It didn't let me, like, I don't have it as accesible now but I cannot uninstall it from my phone completely

@@candylide To delete my IG, Tik Tok, Whatsaap and Facebook accounts: 1. log into your account on the app, 2. go to settings/privacy 3. search for deletion of account. Once you get to the 3rd step, it will ask you if you want to "temporarily deactivate account" or " delete account". When you delete your account, there is a 30 days grace period to retrieve your data. After the 30 days, your accounts will be completely deleted. To unistall the apps, you'll have to maybe do it from your settings. Try to find a video on that here on RU-vid. I hope this helps and happy Holidays.

I think I’ll do that with RU-vid

Just to add a bit more nuance to this, I think the issue actually goes a bit deeper. A lot of OF influencers are good at INFLUENCING and not at actually doing the sex work side of things. And they do end up making money, but they could literally choose any way to commodify their influencing from selling T-shirts to diet plans or whatever. People who I know personally who have built up their OF with no influencer platform have taken years of dedication to do it and are far more knowledgeable about sex work then a lot of the influencers who are being the loudest. My biggest beef is that these women, who due to the privilege of their platforms, have not developed a SWer skill set or a developed understanding of how SWer liberation is intrinsically tied to the fights against patriarchy, fights for disability justice, and fight against police surveillance and brutality. And those same influencers will go on alpha bro podcasts and get wrecked (also making SWers more of a target in the process). Talented sex workers are literally the most equipped people to have conversations with men about how to liberate themselves from patriarchy and we actually do engage in these convos while on the clock. Often times teaching men how to show us proper respect is the only way we are compensated fairly. But the people with the experience and worldview to have these conversations are constantly being spoken over by extremely privileged SWers who aren’t doing the deeper work and who are actively perpetuating wh0r€ph0bia Cause yeah just to add to your point if you talk to actual workingclass SWers we are screaming that 99.9% of people are truly not meant for this life and actively trying to warn people about the legitimate dangers and harm. It can also be a truly liberating space for a small few who have already been oppressed out of traditional work, but that is a small minority of people.

@@seraphinavioletcueller5031that’s a great point. i think another result of this is the new brand of misogyny men on the internet will use to target women. they’ll comment things like “of detected opinion rejected,” and like u said, perpetuate the anti-sw sentiment. sometimes they’ll also come for random women because they just assume she has an of

i think we need to be talking more about the fact that there are many out there wanting to do OF which is fine in my book but this involves minors. girls under 18 wanting to do OF and even teasing that on their social media (mostly on IG for some reason) and there are those actively waiting for these specific minors to "mature" (creepy asf) and to turn 18 to finally be able to see them doing risqué content. very gross indeed.

Sex work will never be empowering, idc about what anyone says

I'd argue a lot of this stuff(including the video above) if making money is the goal, it's because all the "normal" ways to make money are not effective enough. Capitalism is at the heart of so many problems in our modern world, and we're merely just living through what happens when people become desperate for a way out(or in).

tbh as long as you engage with normal content you should be fine 😭

Right! I’m waiting until public perception fully acknowledges that basically everything is staged. Travel vlogs, reviews, GRWMs & DIMLs, and podcasts can all be scripted & edited just as much as TV shows.

@@EmzEspinet absolutely, everything is manufactured yet presented as real, it's having horrifying impacts on people - especially children. It's completely twisting how we see/interact the world, that we expect everything at a whim, and that everything is about money.

Right! I’m waiting until public perception fully acknowledges that basically everything is staged. Travel vlogs, reviews, GRWMs & DIMLs, and podcasts can all be scripted & edited just as much as TV shows.

This is so profoundly accurate and real.

Many people do, because we aren’t taught the difference. Instead, we’re taught to conflate confidence with narcissistic behavior.

Makes me concerned for the kids and worry about how it will affect them mentally and socially

exactly. i don’t see why people want to blur every boundary and challenge every social expectation. it will inevitably lead to a very violent and perverse society but people think they’re being progressive and fun

I mean….those ppl have some serious confidence tho had some v interesting interactions with ppl on the street

But what's funny is true confidence is an energy of self-acceptance that other ppl naturally take notice of yet doesn't actively seek to be noticed.

why would you WANT to go to those parties and places? they're overrun with vapid shallow social media buffoons. doesn't sound fun to me!

Like, tf is a pickle kit??? 😭

That's awful

U would think they at least blur their faces when editing the video but idk if they either can or don’t care to

No I actually think they need permission atp 😭

yess absolutely!! i find it so cute when i see my cousin or other young teens doing tiktok dances together, either home or in public. they are interacting with each other, having fun, etc. - i used to dance with my classmates with the school's radio, sometimes my parents let me take my very terrible video camera to record these memories. everyday i pass a very popular photo wall in my city. i usually walk really fast, but i try to stop or get out of the way so people can get their pics (when some people look shy i try to hype them up). - it's a fine experience, tourists come by, locals let them have a respectful good time, alrighty. there's nothing wrong with wanting a cute photo. but then you have these people, who have never set foot in a subway before in their lives, making noise, blocking ways, sometimes bumping into passangers and being rude, just because they are "ruining" their 10 second video - tantrums you usually see in 4 year olds. they are not brave, they lack self awareness and respect for people around them.