TIKTOK'S ART COMMUNITY IS A DISASTER. || SPEEDPAINT + COMMENTARY 

the fact people made fake screenshots of that one artist saying the n word just to get away with bullying a child is INSANE and should've never happened. having an art style with your eyes a bit high isn't going to kill anyone and that "drama" should've never happened

I literally drew my character with Deku as them being friends and I got HARASSED. I was like, "Okay Tik Tok go bye-bye."

Just a few days ago my friend's art was stolen and "fixed" by a tiktoker with 20k followers, no credit to them. They weren't even fixing an error or anything, they stole fanart and erased out a character they didn't like. Like, of course theres going to be thieves in every space but.. 20k followers for stealing other people's fanart and erasing a character?????

Bullying is becoming more and more acceptable on social media... The "let's bring back bullying" and "bullying is okay sometimes" are making me sick. Bullying doesn't do any good

finally someones talking about this! the tiktok art community is unbelievably toxic

I think a huge part of the problem with TikTok is the young audience. I remember RU-vid and Tumblr being just as toxic but now as it is being used by an older audience the vast majority of that toxicity is gone.

this is why im really scared of "going big" on the internet. as much as i really wanna be recognized for something on the internet, im scared of the people who will purposely try to frame me as a bad person

My cousin's daughter got into TikTok. She really enjoyed it and her grandma got her a nice ring light phone stand for xmas so she could improve her video quality. I wasn't on Tiktok at the time so I never saw her content. I was recently catching up with ther grandma and I asked how her Tiktok was going. She told me that the girls at her school found her Tiktok and they went on mass reporting campaigns to get her banned and sent bullying messages. Every time the poor child tried to start a new account these girls would find it and begin reporting her til she got banned. I think she tried 4 different times before she just quit entirely and joined the volleyball team instead. Kids are fucking vicious and nasty. Even back when I was a kid I was shocked at how feral some of my peers could become! It was so easy to see them get swept up into a group frenzy too. Like I have memories of elementary school and seeing a literal wolf pack of girls chasing a boy down through the school yard and tearing his clothing to shreds because "he was cute." The boy had to wear old clothes to school just to keep his good shit from being destroyed. lmao. I don't know how that was allowed to continue but that shit happened more than once. I can only imagine the scale of crazy some kids can get to now-a-days with the technology we have at their fingertips.

This isn’t specific to tiktok, but it seems like people are always like “don’t shame beginner artists!” Until those beginner artists aren’t putting down their work or are feeling proud of it.

I’ve hated Tiktoks art community the moment I heard about the Croaket_ situation. Absolutely abhorrent.

As somebody who's video got viral on TikTok as a semi beginner artist, I kept on getting "oh" and Multiple other comments and a person made an entire argument on how I'm the worse person ever cus I used a art term wrong by accident and was arguing everyone. I got a bunch of followers and a bunch of people who liked my art though, I guess I did get something out of it but the feeling of dread of opening up a app and then immediately thinking about quiting art is a feeling alright. Edit: Looking at the replies, let me explain what happened. I made a video saying "This was literally my rendering process." And it was me showing how simple the process was and this was replying to comment that was made on a speed paint. A person in my comments said "So we're calling anything rendering now? 💀" And the only reply I did was "Actually, this was helpful." Because I got educated on the term rendering and also wanted them to calm down and know that I got their point. Anyways, everyone was arguing them and they were not backing down. I think I did one petty reply but that was when it was in the middle of it besides that, I literally did nothing but used a term wrong. #2 edit: changed some terms cus they were incorrect and did kinda made it worse by accident, it wasn't that bad but it was still bad.

Literally couldn’t agree more. Every time I’m like “hey maybe we shouldn’t bully people” everyone and their mom has something to say about it like I just broke a cardinal rule or smth

I'm sooo glad that I never touched tiktok. I hate how toxic it is and I feel so horrible for those who have been bullied off of the platform. I'm glad I watch tiktok compilations on RU-vid instead because it's honestly better that way. RU-vid is by far a lot kinder than tiktok.

A more recent event that also kind of disturbed me: A young artist was a bit too cocky and bragged about how people in their beginner art class were in for a surprise, and then their art was... Not above a beginner's class, so to speak. Now, I do understand and am on the side of people who explained that they did not need to dismiss those in a beginner class, that we all can learn a lot, older artists explaining their own experience and how this sort of attitude does not benefit you, and even those who were a bit more acid and said things on the line of "kid, you got a big storm coming". But jesus christ, a great deal of people were absolutely *ruthless*. The template of their tiktok was used and reused for memes (some that did make me laugh ngl, specifically the ones that featured meme art that clearly took more effort than whatever is on my sketchbook right now), sometimes with the kid's face, had their art (that wasn't even really bad tbh) mocked, and I was just there like "????????????" I saw the comments on the original tiktok. People were straigh out bullying and sending threats to the kid. And when I was checking their other art tiktoks, there were already a couple mean comments coming from the og. All this harassment to a beginner artist who commited the deadly sin of having a bit of an ego that honestly is quite common around their age, and did not need this level of "punishment". I bookmarked their apology video because I wanted to give my own reply, but I kept pushing it off due to my anxiety, and now it's gone. I don't really remember their @ to check if they simply deleted the tiktoks or if their whole account is gone, but considered how it all went down, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter..

kinda reminds me of how people will put really young kids art in cringe comps over it literally being poorly drawn IN THEIR OPINION like dont u have anything better to do then bully 7 year olds 😭

They were “outed” about being a dsmp fan, which is so stupid because the only way that if you like a problematic content creator makes you bad is if you A:openly support the creators actions, or B:disagree with hard evidence or proof (ex a clip of a non black creator saying the n slur) they literally only were outed for watching Jshlatt and dream… like what? And the whitewashing part, they did whitewash the characters but they not only apologized but also re colored the skin to be darker, and it wasn’t even that much lighter, it probably was a few shades lighter, but they still handled it well.

Everybody who bullied Croaket_ for their art style casually forgot why Picasso got famous

This is the kind of behavior that fuels my hatred towards myself and my art. People just don't allow you to start from anywhere - you have to be born a goddamn prodigy so people will leave you alone. And even then if you're good/successful enough you have to deal with jealous people too 😮‍💨 All of this just makes the art process unnecessarily stressful.

I over exaggerate body proportions in art. I was wondering if I should of gotten TikTok, but this video was a blessing from god

TikTok is something I will always avoid because they care more about money than the safety of creators or viewers. Its just "Oh look, its getting lots of comments! Yay money!" kinda energy

I've been posting my art online for 7 years on various sites like instagram and DA. People have been very respectful and uplifting. Shortly after i made a tiktok i recieved a negative comment lol. It was just 1 which is fine. I'm not really active on tiktok at all. I just notice people seem to have super high expectations on that app about how a person should be

Tik Tok itself deserves to be shut down. I'd rather have people who are actually nice other than spreading misinformation, and being toxic & harass people without a reason because of the way they look, dress or how they feel.

I know this is about Tiktok, but that wrist point really struck a nerve. I have long fingers and can bend them in interesting ways. I used them for reference back in art college and got told they look unnatural. When I demonstrated that my own hands bend this way, the lecturer said (paraphrasing) "uh...well, the audience will see it as wrong". I'm always wanting to show body diversity in my work. Why are my own hands different?? Ugh

I have hitchhikers thumb, double jointed thumbs so they bend back nearly 90 degrees. For an art assignment I had to draw a page of hand references. My instructor told me I did ok but my thumbs looked weird/shouldn’t bend that way. “You mean like this?” Then proceeded to wiggle my freaky little thumbs.

Something I hate with tiktok is how they cant handle beginners, stylisation and stylised/unrealistic propositions

TikTok is super worse than Twitter tho. There are good and bad things about TikTok but a lot of bad things can rid of good things. I am too scared to approach TikTok tho. I don't hate it. I just don't like it and won't download it.

Holy crap, I dodged a bullet- I had no idea the community on TikTok was that toxic, and for a while I had been thinking about getting the app. With how fragile my self-esteem is, I think they might do much worse than bully me off the platform.

I remember how crazy this whole "croaket drama" was. People tried to say Croaket_ was racist because of a creator they PREVIOUSLY supported because they committed the cardinal sin of drawing fanart or something??? As in they weren't even watching content or engaging with that creator AT ALL and the fanart was old. It's clear that they were just trying to cancel a creator because they didn't like the art-style of all things. It was disgusting to watch. Now I wanted to just touch on how black artists are treated on tiktok. Like we are CONSTANTLY targeted by people who oh, you know, are hella racist and spam report our accounts because they deem our content "inappropriate." So many of my art friends are constantly shadowbanned, because they dare to call out the racist harassment that they face. Not just young black artists, but just poc artists in general. TikTok's Toxic side of it's art community can be summed up in a few words, it's what's wrong with the internet art community but turned up ten fold....

They always like art until it'd a beginner

I was pretty active in the tiktok art community back in like summer 2021, and tbh i never actually saw alot of negativity that i can remember. most of what i watched was people sharing their process on making art, and that was about it

I've been on TikTok since before it was called TikTok. It used to be called Musically and was catered more toward cosplayers. It used to be a fun place until it essentially became the new Vine. I didn't post on it much when I first started my account but I hardly post at all nowadays partially because of all the toxicity. I never realized just how bad the art community was on there

tiktok has really normalized bullying... The ammount of artist I've seen bullied off tiktok is far too many, and expesically teenagers.

The other day I posted my sketch on TikTok and people was keep commenting “oh” “something is wrong” “you made it worse” even tho it’s a sketch💀💀💀 and half the people who was commenting that don’t even draw

Yes, finally somebody who addresses this! You rock, Celestia! The amount of times I've been told my art style is "ugly" or how "disproportionate my faces are" is unbelievable, and depending on the mood, I either respond in anger or sarcasm. 💀

I have HIGHLY stylized art, and after seeing that other young artists get so much hate, it just pushed me off the platform out of actual fear. I have been tik tok free for almost a year now, and it's a great change! I'm actually happier because I don't have to worry about being harassed or called "Fatherless" everyday or everytime I posted something.

as someone who's main acc for my work is TikTok with 400k following, I've definitely seen how total shit TikTok is for artists 😬 Bullying isnt like something that's seen and ignored, it's something that's accepted as part of the community and seen as endearing and fun to partake in.... you get HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS or even MILLIONS of views jumping on a shit-on trend for "artist of the week to hate"

I downloaded TikTok, made one post of my art, and was absolutely FLOODED with hatred and horrid comments with everyone telling me I ruined this specific franchise, should kms, etc. I’ve dealt with hatred before online but that was just insane. Didn’t feel like trying to cater to that audience so I uninstalled the same day.

Hey Celestia, your video reminds me of something I've noticed on IG. Over the past few months/past year, I've seen what feels to be more and more comments that don't seem to treat creators as people. I get that trolls have always existed, and of course not everyone is going to agree on everything, but so often now I see posts talking about random cool things and people with "who cares", in surprisingly frequent amounts. This is just one example, but I can't help but wonder if IG's shift to become more like TikTok and attract it's audience could have something to do with this? idk

For the Cookie Run Kingdom remark. They do know these are gingerbread cookies right? They're not human they're cookies they're inanimate objects. In the story they were literally made to be eaten! The whole story revolves around sweets. Their animals are literally cake and they eat jelly. How someone interprets an inanimate object as a human is entirely up to them. If someone wants to interpret a character from the game having light or dark skin then that's their choice. Cuz that's how they interpret the character in their eyes. But at the end of the day they're all just gingerbread cookies. Cookie is literally in their name and they say that they crumble and they have jam for blood. Seriously they're not human they don't have a race. They're literally sentient food get over yourselves!

I'm not surprised that the TikTok community is toxic considering TikTok's notoriety. Lots of people on that platform will find ANYTHING to get unjustifiably pressed over. There was a house decorator whose whole house is decked out in Disney merch (one of her bathrooms is Little Mermaid themed) and there were people in the comments shaming her for liking Disney. I remember one mean comment saying: "Does your husband not like adults?", insinuating that she is too old to like Disney. And another that says "Tell you're single without telling me you're single." Ironically for that hater, the decorator is married and I wasn't surprised she's married. It shouldn't be surprising if someone is married or single. As an adult Disney fan, it grinds my gears when ppl view liking Disney as an adult as if it's a crime and unforgivable sin, and by extension, a personal attack against them. Another instance, a beekeeper TikToker, Texas Bee Works, she shares videos about honey bees and moving bees to new homes to save them. She would always do so without wearing a typical beekeeper suit and lots of ppl assumed she is being careless and reckless not realizing she is a bee expert and understands bee behavior. Some Karens even went as far as to insult her appearance, accusing her of being vain for "showing off her looks" just because she happens to be attractive not realizing she lives in Texas and it's very hot (I know because I live in Texas and the summers feel like living in an oven.)

I once drew Dark Pit in his dark skinned alt from smash and someone tried to flame me in the comments, suggesting that I “made the black character evil” because I “have something to examine” but hehe I’m black. The convo ended wholesome tho.

As someone who is using TikTok to post my art and it’s not letting people grow and it’s a really really toxic community and the reach you can get off of TikTok is absolute bull crap I have posted so many TikToks and I’ve been only getting 1-5 likes so I am really not shocked how bad the community is on there

A lot of my responses to ridiculous people on tiktok, are me mirroring their behavior until they get annoyed and leave me alone. lmao

7:46 oh hey i brought this up in my tweet! really appreciate the nuanced angle you're presenting the issue from -- especially with shortform content, entire classes' worth of content is getting shrunk down to 60-second videos and it's just ..... not super helpful imo

I've never ever got hate on my art, I consider myself very lucky for that.. the worst I got was someone saying "Awful"... but English was thier second language, and they thought it meant "full of awe" as in, it left them in awe.

Damn I really said be here at the 13s mark. Gonna edit this once I finish the video. Here's that edit. I honestly am a bit weirded out by the tiktok art community. I mostly stay on the side that does story telling or are small businesses instead of art trends, so I haven't encountered it in the same way you have. However, I have seen lots of people who are unsolicited 'critics' on art. It's to a point I'm scared to show an inkling of my artwork at times due to how I deal with criticism as a whole. Others who read this may say I need thicker skin, but most of the people trying to help artists "improve" don't have anyone's best interests at heart.

The ways reels on Instagram are becoming more and more toxic like Tiktok is terrifying-

Let's not get even started on how you can get perma-banned on the platform for no reason at all and any and all appeals are ignored because of the sheer number of false reports one person can get, especially if the person has a large platform on there. It's next to impossible to get the banned account back because tiktiok doesn't care to get legitimate human involvement to assess why anyone would be banned. They just leave it to the bots and the bots have no ability to disprove any claims made against a creator. People have lost thousands of followers this way and those people struggle to pick the pieces back up, or leave the platform entirely.

I hate hate hate the art community on TikTok. So many nice artists there but also so many toxic people. I’ve been an artist who posts online for 10 years now and I honestly feel like the mood on that app is miserable for me. I’ll stick to my old platforms even if it means some people will never see my art 😢

This is one of the majority of reasons I stopped using Tiktok

One thing I hate about the TikTok drawing community is the problem with skin color, people keep complaining saying things like "but why are they light" or "that's not their skin tone" or "it's too much dark" and you really go back to the drawing and there's nothing wrong with being a dark-skinned girl and Latina I came across a TikTok where a girl was talking badly about a day of the dead-themed drawing I really got mad but when I entered I saw in the comments section that many people were defending the drawing (mostly Latin People) I don't really remember what ended up happening with the girl who criticized the drawing of course "Rac1sm0" but I do know that I deleted it at least.

I've never had a TikTok and never will, and not even because of the literal 'cult of hate' going on in the art community. There are so many videos of dangerous trends that TikTok REFUSES to take down until the LITERAL LAW gets involved, like with the whole ice cream licking fiasco. I mean RU-vid lets SOME of that go, like with fractal wood burning videos until Ann Reardon of How to Cook That spoke up about it, but not to the levels of TikTok. I also have some concerns about TikTok's security concerning accounts and any personal information therein. The only way I'm even exposed to TikTok at this point is RU-vid compilations, mostly in Sssniperwolf's reaction videos.

I'm so glad I quit tiktok like a year or two ago, probably one of the best decisions of my life

Random Person: I literally don't wanna be mean, but.... Me: Yes, yes you do. Especially considering you think bullying is justified if they don't do what you want, because apparently not fixing a mistake in a artwork is way worse than bullying someone right?

I never posted my art on TikToc so I can't exactly speak on that part. Some of my art I'm afraid to post on TikToc because I don't want to get a bunch of mean/unnecessary comments on my Oc x Fell!Sans ship or my OC x Swap!Papyrus ship. I'm also afraid to post some of those drawings on Amino. Mainly my Oc x Swap!Papyrus ship for some reason lmao.

I deleted tiktok a while ago because of the toxicity and immaturity of those on the platform. Who need an app made up of almost entirely of modern teenagers would be immature.

Ugh THANK YOU for the comment on unsolicited criticism. Can’t wait for that video.

Fr. I never post my art on tiktok, EVER. I'm already struggling with autistic burnout rn and stress, someone calling my art ugly or "rendering process" would literally crush me.

Believe it or not, Clip Studio Paint has a cool feature that allows you to record your art process directly within the program. And it's INCREDIBLY useful for making tiktoks and short-form content out of your art! It was what lead me to funally purchase CSP in April of 2021 (I went woth the annual sub cuz I didn't feel ready to purchase a perpetual license at the time, but I would have most certainly purchased one by now if it weren't for my plans to get an iPad. Also, luckily, I never had that bad of an experience thus far (and I ship my main OC/sona character with an OG Newgrounds icon character, specifically a schizophrenic assassin with childhood trauma who you may have seen featured in a certain beep boop rhythm game).

and this kinda behavior online is why I'm TERRIFIED to post my art online

Another thing is there was this incident about tiktok being so hesitant about creating community guidelines. On youtube you could do comment filters and people in general can dislike comments or report and fight back. On TikTok there's no sense of responsibility because everything feels so fleeting and anonymous

I also agree that unsolicited criticism is wrong (unless the artist doesn't care), here's why: 1. Like you said, some people are more sensitive about it and are still learning, there's nothing wrong with that. 2. Sometimes a person's criticism is not valid and is extremely biased or rude. They don't take consideration into the artist's feelings. And as for the biased part, the critique's views and opinions aren't always the same as artist's views and opinions. Let's just say the critique says purple and orange don't go together, that's opinion-based, and the artist doesn't have to agree with it, and since it's *their* artwork, *they* get the final say. Just because someone claims something's wrong with their art, it doesn't actually mean there's anything wrong. The artist gets to decide that with their *own* artwork. 3. Alot of people are too quick to criticize the artist's artwork without actually trying to understand them. The artist drew their art the way they did for a reason, instead of just telling them they're wrong how about actually try to understand WHY they did it and what they were going for? 3. Not all artists need critique to improve. Some artists are pretty good at improving their art on their own. Not everyone needs to have someone verbally point out their mistakes. 4. Some artists are already critical about their art, they don't need someone else doing it for them.

Yet another day of getting more and more convinced that minors shouldn't be allowed in social media. Their minds are too easily influenced to be in such environments. Hell, i don't think i even needed to say that cuz it doesn't take more than 1 minute scrolling thru those kind of environments to notice that half of the toxic ppl in there are, in fact, minors that don't actually know what they're doing.

I keep seeing tiktok tutorials that are like "Then I just put this colour where I feel is right." That's not... a tutorial. That doesn't teach anyone where to put shadows, hilights, contrasting colours, etc. If you don't know *why* you put a colour or shade somewhere, maybe don't try to teach other ppl? Share your process for sure, admit u just do what feels right. But don't label that as a *tutorial* and act like you're some pro art tips teacher lol.

so that was why my mom said stay away from tiktok like its unbelievably toxic its insanely toxic bro i wish non toxic and kind people were there

As someone who is semi large on tiktok i absolutely agree with everything in this video! Tiktok is the only platform I've ever had to deal with mass unsolicited advice on because for some reason people don't see it as disrespectful like on other platforms. I also absolutely would argue that tiktok is much more toxic then twitter as someone who is on both- i've seen dozens of artists harassed, doxed, and even followed in public now. you seriously don't want to be tiktoks "artist of the week" I very briefly was on that radar and ended up having to turn off comments when it got out of hand- I had drawn princess Rosalina and had made a normal video that got around a million views when suddenly my comments sections were full of people saying stuff like, "she looks like a cyclops" "she looks like she has cancer on her face" and eventually turned into people commenting hateful and racist comments to people leaving positive comments which is when I decided to turn the comments off. It didn't bother me until my followers were being attacked but I cant imagine being a younger artist and receiving comments like those.

I made a drawing that i was SUPER DUPER PROUD OF, it was completely out of my comfort zone and It worked out super well. The neck looked a bit weird and so did the jawline, however I loved it. I made an art tiktok to simply share my art. I made a tiktok postibg the image. It got 37 likes and 2 favs and 2 people commented how good it was, however 3 people mocked me and simply bullied it, not giving criticism- simply bullying. Even though I got alot of love for it, those comments made me hate this drawing and i eventually deleted the tiktok from embarassment (maybe im just bad at getting hate comments and if i cant handle them i shouldnt post at all) but still,

its incredible how every time i notice celestia uploaded i drop everything to watch it like there is literally no other youtuber i do or have ever done this with, celestia actually brightens up my day istg

I've never seen any toxicity on the art side of TikTok honestly, even the beginner comments are flooded with love and praise, weird how different the sides of art we see

God this case is so goddang disgusting. Thank you for covering this and making me aware, as I was planning to expand onto other platforms (tik tok, insta, etc) as soon as I was able. Stuff like this just boils my blood and makes me want to legit lash out. These people seen absolutely Abhorrent and relentless.

Learn art in 1 minute posts have the same vibe as those get rich quick schemes except you don’t waste as much money 💀💀

this gave me the push to delete tiktok again, hopefully it stays! woo. ♡♡

it's so sad that so many communities are turning into this as time goes on. I've never been on tiktok, but I have received some troll comments on other platforms and I just roll my eyes and move on, but just knowing that there are kids and beginner artists that are getting a lot of this crap breaks my heart.

A lot of the cruelty comes from the age of the people in the app too. Teens and kids unfiltered behave sociopathically and encouraged by this being the norm they just assimilate. That said, Tiktok trending of everything is ruining art, singers have to go viral pressured by their agencies and most art is just refurbished better art from another artist that is not there.

Hello, Celestia! Your videos have been very helpful and motivating, thank you!

I remember one time I had a tiktok go somewhat viral in the art tok community. it didn't have actual art (it was about animation unions) but I couldn't get over how so many of the popular comments were focused on my appearance. I was compared to a lot of unattractive white boys that day (I am neither white nor a boy) and while I do have thick skin, something about people's eagerness to point out perceived flaws, compare you unprompted, etc. was extremely offputting. it probably has something to do with art tok's young age as well as the fact that all these kids probably have screen times that would make my eyes water. ergo these are very poorly adjusted, immature individuals who aren't interested in being nice on the internet. definitely do not envy those who are tiktok viral. especially on art tok. lol

Tiktock is a wretched place indeed. As someone who watched hour long power point presentations of military economics, history, religion or philosophy, something so short is just - how are you supposed to learn anything?

This is very true like right now its a trend going on dogpiling on some kid saying they improved drawing plus size characters. What they shown it didn't look like a plus size character but all the stitches with it is not helping them it's just mocking them and calling them fatphobic for it. Like I understand their reason for not drawing them were iffy but like bullying them jesus christ-

I agree with your argument. And also I absolutely love your Howl art, Celestia!

Thank you for this video. With that particular example, it felt like the artist was being bullied for no reason (only their art style). Then as people started calling out the bullies, they struggle to come up with justifications for why they were all dogpiling on them in the first place. I have seen stuff like this happen multiple times on Twitter and Tiktok.

TOXIC?! Thank God, I was about to walk right in there until now!

Omg I love your art in the speed paint, I really look up to you

which social media is the best hub for artists? where are you posting guys your art? I feel like no matter how toxic the art community is over twitter, i cannot let go because just from my observation its the intersection of all art social media. - a lot of pixiv artists are on twitter - skeb artists - deviantart artists - instagram artists would probably claim their username on twitter too and post as well - discord artists - tumblr artists would cross-post as well - i logged in to artfol app but it so quiet? - pillowfort paywalled - ko-fi isnt rly that social-media optimised - facebook i completely forgot this exist Where are your comfy social media places, artists??

no one can hurt my feels about my art anymore after what tiktok did

I’ve seen so many ppl say to shade w the contrasting color depending on lighting- which is a completely valid way to shade but it directly clashes w my semi real (albeit stylized quite a bit) art

Tiktok is what I like to call the twitter of Vine

as someone who also has hypermobility ("double-jointedness"), i've always had such a hard time with anatomy and with anatomy tutorials because my joints naturally extend further than they should in pretty much any situation; i don't even hold my pencil "correctly" because the grip doesn't give me enough... grip.

One of my moots on tiktok has gotten A LOT of hate for her art style and I couldn’t just stand there and watch her get criticism, I stood my ground and told them how her artstyle is original very consistent but yet they keep rambling

With the stylised eyes at around 22:44 actually made it look like it was from a below angle

I would just like to say that I love the way you shade hair! It's shiny, polished, and reminds me a bit of metal (in a good way)

Can you a video about sl33pt4lk? They are on tiktok being mocked right now, they just wanted to practice drawing chubbier characters and now they're being made fun of, their oc is being stolen and shit-

The tiktok art community is soooooo badly toxic. Legitimately artist have been bullied and harassed out of art all together over the STUPIDEST things.

Been accused of tracing multiple times because, people say my art style is not consistent. Even though I always try different ways of drawing because, I get tired of drawing the same thing over and over. And someone also left a comment saying they reversed searched my artwork to prove that it wasn’t mine…yeah I stole my own artwork according to TikTok even though my INSTAGRAM is literally tagged on the profile I upload on.

I more recently uploaded my first RU-vid short and it got me thinking about giving tiktok a chance. I think I've backtracked on that idea 😅 still have yet to make an account, or even download the app, as everything I heard from that site has been unpleasant & I didn't want to go out of my way to get stressed out on it. Kinda glad I'm sticking to not doing that, especially bc I'm still very much learning with my art

I have no idea this was going on, but thank you for tell me about this, as an artist myself, I would try to stay away from the negativity as much as possible and focus on the important stuff when it comes to art,

My biggest problem with Tiktok is the users. This also applies to Twitter too Sometimes I wonder how both got so toxic in the first place

22:23 the way people still use "rendering process :]" as an insult to new artists relating to croket_'s art is just sad

one time i saw a tiktok shaming people who draw “pinterest art” (eyes, flowers, disney princess edits, like 2015-style stuff) and I commented like, “yeah it may seem boring but you can’t just gatekeep art from people??” and they kept flooding me with variations of “oh, did you just learn that word sweetie?” “look at you trying to defend this” “try getting some ✨personality✨” and that was when i stopped putting any faith in people who use tiktok

Really enjoying your videos, just found your channel!

I remember one time I posted a video on TikTok that something to do with some dumb argument about Gacha users not being artists (I know, pretty dumb) and some random account (they were a cosplay account) posted their comment saying that I traced my all of my drawings (I only draw with pencil and paper) and there was an argument with people defending me and the Commentator. Which, unfortunately, made me never post my artwork ever again on that platform.