It's actually very fair. Making a decently popular tiktok video is much less effort than making a decently popular youtube video. Getting 1 million views on youtube is astronomically difficult than getting 1 million views on tiktok.
It's getting easier to reach a million views nowadays on RU-vid. Cause it's a must have on every phone but tik tok just a trend. It's hot now but it's cooling down & now everyone running back to RU-vid or IG.
@@xXDaneyDimes42069Xx Vine and myspace was a trend before they died out. Having large user base does not mean the business will last. Unless they solve the sustainability of payout. The quality of content won't rise because they get paid enough.
21, and never gonna install tiktok. I just don't see the appeal of short-form content roulette. RU-vid Shorts caters to my niche little interests enough, and mostly I watch long-form essays of obscure topics anyways.
TikTok mainly exists for Chinese gov to get penetration into mobile devices used by Americans. So ByteDance doesn’t really need tiktok to make any $$ so it does its best to put very little ads so people won’t leave its platform.
I try TikTok and it's just a place for trash content to wasting time. Bad for young kid if left addicted, but it's not as dangerous for mental health compared to Instagram and Twitter who could destroy mental health even for adults.
I didn't mind the app that much. It seems like it pushes content you actually like way better than youtube shorts does. But once I found out what the app was doing in the background when you're not using it I was done. It's a security nightmare beyond the levels of Facebook and Instagram and it's purposely obfuscated. If you have children I would seriously consider getting that app off of their phones.
@fallenlegend8888 Twitter is already dying and it's mostly adults on it. I don't care about it or even use it and never had an account. Same with tiktok.
@@LogicallyAnswered that's probably why unprofitable tech companies are unsustainable, with a few companies scewing the results. I Wonder If currently AI is facing the Same Euphoria...
Why? Its just a platform. English language content is dictated by western values. Social media has to obey the laws of the countries they operate in. For example, in Muslim countries they cant promote homosexuality or drugs. They have agreements with the country. China isnt in charge of what Americans like and certainly doesnt create American fads. These fads exist on RU-vid, Instagram, Twitter, Twitch, Facebook. This is just your culture. The Soviets and Chinese actually battled American western values for a long time. The Capitalist model fits very well with bourgeois debauchery. Marxism, not in name only, always followed working class, universal values.
What kind of reality check is in question? Honestly, there is now so many tools which can help you to succeed anywhere and anyhow. If these TikTokers have troubles with their account, I don't know why wouldn't they use Famester then? Or people with brand new accounts who struggle to take their business off, but still decide against using tools like this...
Whatever replaces it will probably be even worse and more damaging to society and it’s users. Every popular social media platform that dominates is somehow even more worse than the platform it replaces in prime popularity.
There's no future for long form content unless it's subsidized by one of the largest tech companies in the world, see RU-vid's profit losses year after year
This is the main reason why RU-vid ads are so annoying, it's not just corporate greed (although I'm sure there is some of that too), the creators are actually doing extremely well and that's what brings them and keeps them on the platform.
At this point I don’t think it will happens,shorts content will always going to be there ,if you kill TikTok another company will come with the same idea ,Facebook,Instagram ,Snapchat and RU-vid also have shorts videos too
I have a close friends whose retention spans is so low due to consuming contents on TikTok everyday, This person finds it hard to watch long form contents, Sometimes when I speak with vast knowledge gotten from RU-vid, They find it hard to understand and The truth is TikTok is harming our generation
You don't get the picture behind the trees. TikTok is the CCP psy0p w44rf4r3 w34pon. That's why you have 2 flavors. The one for the "3nemy" is p01s0ned. As long as it keeps its utility, they will back it even if it is burning millions per day. Although the same can be said from western platforms to "non aligned" folks.
If there is nobody that wants to watch the ads, there is no money. Cant believe short-form content has come and gone TWICE in the past decade ALONE. Great video as always!
@@phoenix5054 Still very strange. When I was their age I was watching The Simpsons and other entertainment, internet wasn't even a thing yet, but I bet if I could have, I would not watch people dancing. I can understand hormones and wanting to bang everything that moves, but how is that accomplished here? :D
Suprised you didn't mention the 'creativity program'. A new type of monetization option for creators paying them a lot more if their videos are above 1 mins in length (only available in US, France and Brazil atm)
It's probably because it's a relatively new thing, and this video is heavily edited so it would have took him awhile to make. By the time he would have heard about this and done any research on this, this video probably would have already been halfway finished. Which mind you all of the recording would have already been done.
@@augustuslee2719 I have just over 160k followers and around 50m total views and have been paid about $700 so far. Wish the creativity program was available in the UK haha
Ads are not the only revenues for RU-vid. Premium accounts, and supporting creators also get RU-vid paid. Of course it's not as much as advertising, but they're trying to diversify, which is good.
I'm so impressed with how China is actually addressing the issues with social media addiction and content curation. I guess the negative could be that they might censor a little too much? But corporate profits are not more important than the mental health of young people, we should learn that here. And them actually promoting positive content is so nice. Here on YT I can barely get it to show me positive content even when specifically trying to get it to do that. But like every five minutes it's like "hey, maybe you'd like to watch a video on economic collapse? How about some content on the war? Okay, I see you've been watching a lot of meditation videos and Hermitcraft so maybe you're not ready for that yet, but to get you there I got some mild videos with someone complaining about some book they hate for fifty minutes, or a video about how TikTokers are getting slapped in the face, want to watch that? We can move on to the war videos later, I'll keep them here for when you've sunk far enough into despair to welcome that. I'll have this guy posting angry comments again in no time." Thanks YT.
They pay billions to create algorithms that are very good at sussing out their customers. If amazon is recommending cold medicine it's not because they want you to have a cold.
There's a reason why Tik Tok is banned in China and it's because they do know what it does to the minds of young people. The thing is, China isn't in it for the money, it was done like this on purpose. It's a psychological operation. The best way to take over a country is to dumb down the future generations and feminize or eliminate the male population. China has hated the US at the very least, since the Korean War. Just another one of their campaigns to become the worlds sole super power.
You make very good points, but maybe it's possible that TikTok's actual goal in the West isn't making money but rather getting the app on as many phones as possible for other subversive objectives related to China's strategic goals? There is a reason that Tik Tok has been banned on all military employee phones in USA, Australia and others.
This is really the issue with Al of social media. For the most part it’s all a platform where there is very little to no originality. “Creators” are in actuality just unoriginal “copy cats” that take the work of actually talented and original minds who create something that captivates the world, and the social media gang who can’t come up with original ideas of their own then has a feeding frenzy on each trend to try and duplicate what someone else created. Whether it’s voice overs or remixes or adding dances or filters or rewrites….it’s always simply a form of recycling what someone else created. Nobody on these platforms creates. Nobody does anything unique or original. They’re all just an army of copycats copying the same trends and acting as if they’ve done something unique. How many Pamela Anderson did you see his year. Or Wednesday “dances”. How many times did you hear something containing the words “my money don’t jiggle jiggle”. How many click click boom vids. How many see through skirt bottoms or are you quick enough to pause. Yes I’m including the porno social media copy pasta world too. Only Madonna got famous for being Madonna… but imagine if these uncreative people and technology were around in the 80s how many of them would have done their damndest to ride this coattails. Tik tok… all of it..and those who participate n using these technologies in this way… are as big of clowns as those who support them in the hopes of being seem or acknowledged by these fake famous people.
I got dizzy because of your new montage style with huge animated words in front of the blurred stock footage. Not to mention the extremely intense music. The old style with less words on screen was much more relaxing and pleasant to watch.
RU-vid forces you to watch at least one ad at the beginning of the video, and then pays another at the end! I can scroll through Tiktok for hours and never get interrupted by an ad. If an ad does pop up, you can just swipe by it.
Firefox and ublock. Though Google will probably force them to get rid of adblockers too. Mozilla is funded by donations and most of their funding comes from Google. But pretty much everything else is chromium based
TikTok should stop trying to compensate creators. Such a measly amount of money provides little incentive to make content. TikTok is a platform full of new creators taking advantage of the low barrier to entry to gain large amounts of exposure, before transferring to more profitable platforms to make money. There's no need for additional compensation on top of that. Plus, removing the cash incentive would help return TikTok to its roots and make its content less corporate and professional.
to be honest this small amount could make a huge difference to a creator from the third world, so I don't think they should scrap the idea of paying all together
@@jolp9799 idk about tiktok but youtube pays depending on countries. RU-vidrs from India for example earn like 1/20th to 1/100th per 1000 views. I am guessing that would be for tiktok as well. So imagine even a fraction of already small amount
Hey Hari, I’ve been a pretty long time follower of the channel and love the content. However, I wanted to mention that this video may have too many sweeps and transitions. A particularly bad instance was around 2:18 (the beginning of “hesitant advertisers”). I really hope you don’t take this as hate, because I really love the channel, I just found that a little nauseating. Anyways, keep up the excellent work!
Really appreciate the honest constructive feedback man! I was thinking about showing my face and pulling back on the stock footage and motion graphics. How would you feel about that?
@@LogicallyAnswered just stick to faceless, it's fine, and it makes your channel some sort of a brand. And also RU-vidrs who were faceless but then revealed their faces often die of irrelevancy *cough* Dream *cough*
@@LogicallyAnswered I'm a new viewer and I nearly bailed on finishing this for the exact same reasons. I did not post earlier also for the same reason; I didn't want a negative comment to by the first you'd hear from me - but VERY annoying. Appear in front - or remain discrete - to me, it's the content; I'm interested in the topic, not the flash.
@@LogicallyAnswered Hey, sorry for the delayed response. Not sure if that’s the solution, as a previous user mentioned; I also kind of feel like it’s part of your brand to not show your face and instead use stock footage and relevant graphics/images. Of course, that’s not to say I don’t want to see your face, but i feel like it might be too late. Like, if HalfAsInteresting or HowMoneyWorks started showing their faces, I feel like it would be a little weird. I just think that the transitions here were a bit much, because it’s never stood out to me in other videos.
Dude not to be harsh but the editing is quite heavy on this one, can you make it a little less shaky overall. You're on RU-vid not TikTok bro. The audience attention span it's not that short.
1. Why compare TikTok to RU-vid Longs and not RU-vid Shorts? 2. Why include a graph saying 0% of the audience on RU-vid is under 18 when you know it's over 50%? 3. You say Douyin isn't as popular as TikTok when they have 700 million active users. Douyin is only available in China with a population of 1.4 billion which means 50% of the population is active users. Way higher than TikTok. 4. You should mention that TikTok is only monetized in 6 countries 5. You are saying that TikTok has edgy content but their guidelines are much stricter than RU-vid and Instagram. I've had 100+ videos deleted on TikTok and 1 on Instagram and RU-vid.
as one of them yeah tottally fine only creat something you passionate about and want people to talk about it/bring light to like how our schools are literally enabling pedos lately
The most annoying part about Tiktok to me was that people made money by doing absolutely nothing of worth. RU-vidrs like yourself and others put infinitely more effort to making a quality video only for it to get, if fortunate enough, a million views.
totally true. Had a run a few months back where the channel was getting 7-10 million views a week. At most I was making 15 bucks a day. TikTok is brutal. It is best used as a funnel. Funnel your viewers from tiktok to other platforms where the monetization is better.
No one goes onto tiktok to make money. They do it to foster a large audience then transfer them to another streaming platform. Edit: you literally said it like 1 minute after i did. LOL
I remember when MySpace was on 🔥 everyone was talking about it including their unofficial mascot Tom "the MySpace guy". They had great features including paid subscription. But today they are dead. Tik Tok will soon follow suite and die an early death
Long form content will always be better than shorts. Even the worst long form content, which probably is unoptimized commentary content, can go on for half an hour, an hour, etc. and people will listen to it while doing whatever. You just can´t do this with shorts. Now if you think about long form evergreen content... This is the stuff 5000k subs Channels make a literal living with. It´s insane. Which other platform would that be possible on?
Reddit started charging ludicrous amounts of money for the API which third-party Reddit apps used, so third-party Reddit apps such as _Apollo_ and _Infinity for Reddit_ stopped working. Reddit moderators responded by making their communities private until Reddit lowers the rates for the API.
Are mostly chronic online people that cares about it. Reddit raised api prices, mods got angry faked a blackout,Reddit own. Mods power tripping people and unpaid workers for mega corporations. At least is what I understood because I don’t care
You completely skipped the main source of revenue for TikTok, which is gifts given to creators in live streams. They make 50-70% on these gifts depending on the country, and the gifts are worth tens of millions of dollars per day. The hype train and excitement is definitely in this area, and is why they don't bother with monetizing the videos.
Tiktok pay is low because the content is considered low quality even though tons of people put work into their tiktok videos. Also, it is a lot easier to get a lot of views on tiktok because you know the video is going to be over in seconds. $540,000 is a lot of money for someone that does TikTok.
@@giovannidropshipping you are referring to dude thaqt literally says nothing and leeches on others content. He is just weird take on reaction channel. And reaction channels are cancer of any platform. He should be happy he got anything in the first place
@zawarudo1041 it doesn't matter the way you gained your audience, we can assume other people do valuable content on tiktok, but he is the most successful of all of them and only made 540k, that's why.
Being on TikTok can be overwhelming. I eventually went away because it can be overwhelming because of the mindless strolling when I thought about it and seeing basically the same thing over and over just wears on you. It’s definitely easier to build an audience on TikTok tho.
It could be a full downfall or just a 'B' wave in an overall ABC wave system. 'A' wave was it's initial rise, 'B' wave is going to be this correction and 'C' wave is going to mark it's peak of popularity after the 'B' wave ends.
That world's most popular domain is very misleading. The reason it's the world's most popular domain is it their application makes so many duplicate and ******* unnecessary DNS requests. It turns out when you adjust for the amount of useless chatter their applications create they're far lower than that. I don't remember what but I don't think they're in the top 10 anymore. It's like if a bank made a way to transfer money between users. It wasn't built very well so it withdrew and deposited money multiple times for one transfer. Somebody notices that they have the most number of deposits that year. Technically yeah they do, But most of that's just because they're creating a bunch of unnecessary transactions.
From what I learned in this video I think tiktok should introduce some new rules and attract new advertisers. Tiktok is well established so people aren’t going to leave it, even if they gotta turn down their antics.
I went from making $50-$100 per million views to $500-$1,250 per million views. It definitely isn’t like RU-vid but it is definitely trying to change the way you get paid
I may belong about this, but doesn't it seem like short format content providers never have a long shelf life? Quibi, tic tok, vine, etc. Also China knew exactly what kind of virus tik toc was when they chose to ban it in favor of its educational counterpart.
Funny thing is, there was an article posted on Facebook talking about TikTok not going anywhere. I brought up Vine, and the comments section came at me with insults and pitchforks. Sometimes, nobody else wants to see the writing on the wall, even when it's history repeating itself.
I think the real story here is that advertisers are calling the shots on content allowed essentially or at least rewarding content they deem as “appropriate”. I would not think twice if an Apple ad came up after something sexy, or controversial, I mean it already does as we all have our own values and thus surely ads come on at some inappropriate times for you even if not deemed so by others. Advertisers have way too much control and we are not even talking about it. This is the real story.
@Phoenix I am not so sure that is true. How many minutes of watch time do all the millions of small channels get versus the big names? I did a quick search and could not find the answer but there are a lot of RU-vidrs and I think everyone has a few big names and many smaller ones on their subscribed list. RU-vid does not even pay most of the smaller ones as they fail to meet the monetization requirements. We may never know, but I would take a guess that smaller, unpaid watchtime minutes is where RU-vid is really making their money. What do you think or even better, have some stats to help get the details here.
I was asked by a potential client about making tiktok videos to advertise their brand and I told them that tiktok viewers are kids and no spending power. He scoffed me off.
I have been thinking of jumping on the content creation bandwagon. Seems like I won't be focusing on RU-vid or Facebook. Is Instagram still popping? Pinterest looks like a horror show to me. I don't know how they keep everything in order. I seen the same cake being pinned a million times. Pinterest needs a better way of organizing their platform. It's a mess.
TikTok suffers the same symptoms as Vine on the short form content views for short attention span for a short life span on the social media space for both its content creators & the platform itself just a matter of time for TikTok to decay Google's YT structure is sustainable for all
This was some high quality youtube content that's worth watching through and clicking the like button. Why? cuz you in a way explained how humans think
Transition between each pictures made me bad headache. It moved up and down all the time. Your content and voice already make this video great. Transition is not.
6:10 NOTICE WARNING: This topic is NOT so black & white, watch hours and $$$ earned on RU-vid cannot be correlated in the same light as TikTok earnings. Logically Answered makes some valid points BUT misses the mark here. The better comparison should have been made with HOW RU-vid ad revenue is paid for from uploaded shorts videos against TikTokers shorts. If looking into channel content on RU-vid where the user predominantly uploads ONLY shorts content then revenue earned will be much more on par with that of a TikTokers ad revenue... ALSO, partnership requirements and hence the way RU-vid addresses shorts video on this platform require that a figure of at least 10,000,000 million views are achieved before RU-vid will consider partnering an only shorts uploader. Long content is a different story all together and should NOT be related to what a TikToker producers. Unless, when making the move to RU-vid, this is addressed and long form factor content replaced the short from the uploader, these types of comparison from this video may be actually somewhat inaccurate in nature. Apologies if my opinion scorns any egos, as this is not my intention. Peace!
As an ex-TikTok employee in Asia literally tasked to make it marketable to top brands, your take is right for Western market standard. In terms of the impact towards the creators, it's quite true. But in terms of advertisers and market viability, Asian audience are mostly less concern about privacy issues and more entertainment focus. We also have higher trust on creators in general (including shady ones) and LIVE selling is a big thing in the market. Not saying any of this is a good thing, but they sure can make profit, just not from the expected source like big corporations and ads, but SMB and TikTok shop.
Hi, I’m a UI/UX designer struggling to break through with my first job. Marketing is something that has always interested me, and I wanted to know, how did you approach your marketing career? Do you have formal education, some certificates a bootcamp, and what do you recommend for someone starting out from 0?
i tend to live by that motto of "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it", but i'm sorry man i feel like you're smart enough to appreciate honest feedback. i like watching youtube, but these edits make me wanna just listen. i don't mind listening to your stuff, but i also like watching my favorite creators. all that flashy editing really drove me nuts. it's actually the biggest reason i only listen to similar channels to yours. yours is actually the only one i still watch. dunno if that won't change haha. i still love your videos dude. keep it up!
Really appreciate the constructive feedback Erik. I’m thinking of showing my face for some of the video and pulling back on the stock footage and motion graphics. Would that be better?
@@LogicallyAnswered For people like us, yeah probably, but we might still be the minority honestly, lol. Lot of people do seem to have the monkey brains that needs to be stimulated by flashy stuff every 2 seconds, so there's that haha.
@@LogicallyAnswered yessir that'd be much better! I definitely appreciate channels that use that format a lot too. City nerd, city beautiful, the B1M and some others are a few that I also really like. I also think that it's the fact that you and someone like Economics Explained use the same stock footage over and over that drives me nuts. I understand why you guys might do that of course.
RU-vid has more views retention probably because users have to search or select the videos they want to watch, they are intentional. Compared to random short videos on tiktok, more likely to be swiped away.
I think their best bet would be to offer highly targeted ads at cheap rates. This is what Facebook did back in the day, and people gobbled it up. This might be harder today with operating systems and phone manufacturers pushing privacy, but if they can do it and sustain it for long, they can definitely get advertisers on their side. I think your local bakery wouldn't really mind having their ads played after a thirst trap if they would be able to reach a million targeted customers for $20. As more people advertise on TikTok, more fake gurus will start selling TikTok ad courses, leading to a hype about TikTok ads. I believe that would have played some part in facebooks success too, because all these smma people were indirectly unpaid salesmen for fb ads.
There is so much misinformation in this video. Also saying that tik tok is mostly degenerate content is a straight up lie. If that’s all you see that’s because that’s all you’re looking at.
