@@disguisedliu8332 I think she did. I think she loved Victor and despite him not loving her the same way she still got to feel what it felt like and was able to move on as well as give him the gift of being with the woman he did love. She gave him what she could never have
+THIS YELLOW FACE Well, yeah, that's the pragmatic reason things played out the way they did; but symbolically, +Shelby Beard's interpretation is pretty accurate.
This is how cruel the real life sometime can be. Emily seemed to has everything. She's beautiful, talented, her mind and soul are pure and precious. But At the same time she has Nothing at all, she lost her love, her life. Desire something so bad but only can watch other person has it except herself. The most cruel part is that she is good person, she Deserves to be love, to be living happily. At the end she found peace by letting it goes. When I watch that scene It broke my heart but I smile and cry at the same time, because maybe it is solution for the problem that has been messing with my head through my entire life
I always feel the most sympathy for Emily. She was this romantic girl who fell for the wrong guy, and paid for it with her life. And then she meets Victor, but he loves Victoria. And I think the reason this scene makes me so incredibly sad is that there is this wonderful chemistry between them, and you can see that they could be happy together, but in the end Victor chooses Victoria. And that makes sense, because they love each other, but Emily comes so close to having the love she always wanted, and in the end, her happy ending is just the ability to die peacefully. I have a real soft spot for Emily.
That's actually a very beautiful interpretation of this scene :) I guess it had to do with the fact that we don't always meet the correct people at the correct time. If Emily had been alive, then perhaps they both would have given this a chance, but obvious circumstances made that impossible. So instead, I think that lesson here is to accept and move on, as the ending of the movie showed us.
Pretty Unicorns Either way; you're right, it was sad to see Emily go. But at least the one who killed her and betrayed her got what he deserved, in the end
"I WAS ONCE A BRIDE BUT SOMEONE TOOK IT AWAY FROM ME.. AND NOW I AM TAKING SOMEONE ELSE'S DREAMS..I LOVE YOU VICTOR BUT YOU'RE NOT JUST MINE" Still the most heartbreaking line from Emily..
Yes it is you are right i gree What if they got married and I don't know maybe she would had something like a spell that makes her dead till she found her true love and the spell will broken and she'll becomes alive again
They’re basically “talking” through the piano. At first Victor plays higher “happy” notes like he’s trying to catch Emily’s attention and asks her to forgive him, and Emily plays lower, sad notes that show how she’s feeling. Then they get together to play the duet, just like if they “found” each other and everything was alright, like Emily couldn’t be mad at Victor even if she tried. God, I love Tim Burton.
Oh my god you're right! The way he plays than stops and then it's her turn! They don't look at each other than they do! Questioning and answering!!! I never realized that!!! I love it so much!!!
A famous violinist once said...music connetsMusic transcends words. ' By exchanging notes, you get to know one another, to understand one another. As if your souls were connected, and your hearts were overlapping. It's a conversation through instruments.
also: they are playing her sad song, with Victor trying to match to her rythm until on her last play she plays the ending note, meaning the convo is over. Then Victor plays a totally different song which is the one she dances to when she sees the moon. And that's when she stops being mad
I so desperately wanted them to end up together. I believe this is a representation of “right person, wrong time”. I’m sure if they would had both been alive at the same time, they would have chosen one another.
Alejandra Mojica Oh my god. Same. Love this movie, I also like the other movies similar to this one like The Nightmare Before Christmas, Coraline, Frankenweenie, etc.
Some people need to understand that Emily was more in love with the idea of getting married and love , because it was stolen from her . I know many people ship Emily and victor, but I truly believe the ending is perfect.
I love how this scene shows how great communication is music. The hole dialogue between Victor and Emily is so clear and understandable. Like when Victor tries to apologise her but she is very angry and he tries again and she wants to say something but she gives up and Victor tries even harder and then she just pour out all her anger and pain and then they start to communicate. They get along and they begin to understand each other. At the end everything is done. They are reconsiled. Everything is okay.
Honestly if I can play music with another person I tend to be able to just connect with the person easily. Like another language we both speak and its just great. With some people that I can't play with we naturally just don't really talk to each other at all
Music is........ a better way of comminucation. Words never hold that much power to exhibit emotions and what lies deep within us. Its more than a tool to just make other people happy or sad. Its not industry. Its the words in our minds.
Your Majesty what is your problem? Two thousand+ people ignored that spelling mistake which btw was written THREE YEARS AGO... but you couldn’t help yourself huh?
One thing I can really say that I love about this movie, is the fact that they actually show the characters playing the piano. And I must admit, it's actually pretty accurate compared to if you were playing the piece in live-action. Usually, live action films will just have the camera behind the piano so the actors don't have to show actual playing. This is even found in other animation. But Burton said "Fuck that! I'm actually going to have this animated" STOP MOTION might I add. One of if not the hardest means of animation. This is one of the many reasons why i love this movie!
i actually learned to play this song by pausing this scene till i had the notes, ad filed in the blanks best i could. later when i got the actual score i was blown away how close it was. Burton is crazy
Plus It's being stop motion to begin with could also add because if you're going to go through the process of moving all of those frames to make them play piano I guess they would want to make it accurate XD but like it was totally worth it
For those lamenting why, after this scene, Victor didn't choose Emily, it's the same reason the dead reacted with such concern when Victoria is later taken hostage and almost killed: Life is to be lived, because it is so short, and a waste of it is a tragedy. Victor had feelings for Victoria AND Emily, but at the end of the day Emily asking on his love to end his life wasn't the right thing to do, no matter how heart-breaking - she herself had her life ended by another who took advantage of their love. In a way, the film is Emily finally grieving for the life she left behind, but understanding that she cannot then proceed to inflict that pain on more people (no matter how innocent the motive). Victor has a life to live to the fullest, and loved ones he'd leave behind - she can't ask such a sacrifice of him. The film shows maturity in that you don't always get your way or what you want just because you really want it or you love it. Sometimes it's not your place to have it.
Amen to that. Also, what a lot of people seem to forget: Victor had no choice in either case. It was an arranged marriage to Victoria, and an accidental one to Emily. Victor is essentially caught between two very big responsibilities. He is making a sacrifice regardless of whom he chooses. Victor is basically doing what he does because... for all his faults, he is still a good man. He doesn't turn away an innocent dead girl in the end, he doesn't want the girl his parents picked for him to be miserable and alone.
Yeah like that's one of the main reason she says I got my dreams of marriage taken away from me and my life and I can't take it away from her no as well Cuz the whole time all Victoria wanted was to marry someone she truly loved So when they were getting married and she saw that she was taking her dreams away when she was already dead she didn't want to Fulfill her selfish needs And plus then she confronted her murderer and Got over her longing for love she was able to pass on does someone actually made a theory that that wasn't the underworld that that was actually purgatory And at the end of the movie she went to heaven and that actully makes a lot of sense right
+linkLoverAG Not everything can be explained and if you look for a single reason for everything that happens during a movie than explain me why there is a piano in every war movie in the middle of a square? Saving Private Ryan - Band of Brothers - ....
Because in the film, the Living is protrayed as dull and "lifeless" in a way. While, the afterlife is full of celebration, color, and life. The film flipped the meanings of life and death in a way.
Millen Galang Victorias parents were also strict with her, recall the part when Victor was playing the piano and Victoria says “Mother won't let me near the piano. Music is improper for a young lady. Too passionate, she says.”
"You lied to me! Just to get back to that other woman. Don't you understand? You're the other woman. No! You're married to me. She's the other woman. And I thought... I thought this was all going so well. Look, I'm sorry, but... ...this just can't work. Why not? It's my eye, isn't it? No. Your eye is... ...lovely. Listen, under different circumstances, well, who knows? But we're just too different. I mean, you're dead. You should've thought about that before you asked me to marry you. Why can't you understand? It was a mistake. I would never marry you". These lines break my heart.
Honestly, I just don't like Victor, I couldn't relate to him at all. I'd do so many things differently :o And Emily seems much better and alive than Victoria and even has shown more affection towards him.... I'm still sad, he didn't go with Emily as soon as he could.... :'(
Time won’t run for both living and the dead. I think Emily did what she thought best. To let Victor enjoy his life. That’s an act of pure love right there.
I can't help but think that Emily is the most beautiful character in the entire movie. Yes she is dead, yes her eye pops out from time to time, and yes she has a maggot in her head but she is really pretty. The way she has a light for everything is just enchanting and it was horrible what Lord Douchebag did to her.
***** Yeah, I saw a pic on Tumblr that had Prince Hans and Prince Charming from the Shrek movies as a couple. I thought "Why not Bark-ass?" It'd be like an evil (BR)OT3.
I know!! I still can't get over it! Emily was the PERFECT bride for victor, I really wish the movie had ended differently, like it would have been nice that Victoria would have met someone differently to fall in love with, as victor would slowly get feelings for Emily, because he was!! It still pisses me off lol
I do think that Emily and Victor were soulmates but never met while she was alive. Victoria was another match who happened to be alive. I think he loved both.
I loved Emily. But I was glad that the movie ended the way it did. Emily died young, and all she wanted was love, she wanted Victor, but she was dead and in the end she was finally able to go peacefully and have her soul finally rest. It was beautiful.
I kind of like how it's a sort of apology. She starts lamenting. He gently enters the conversation. He grows more passionate,"Please forgive me!" in a little voice, but then she re-enters angry and explains her frustration. They exchange at the same pace, and then reconnect through a small embrace that leads off to a gentle end to the argument. I like how I can kinda put words to the notes.
+Kokoro Cala My violin teacher always told me that a piece of music is just like a story, it has phrases and comma's, one thing leads to another, you end a sentence and start a sentence. Now it's second nature to think of music that way, but when I first heard it I had never thought of it like that and it's pretty cool :P
I think even if we had more scenes with victor and Victoria their chemistry wouldn't even be close to what we saw. They're personalities between victor and Emily were just perfect for each other. Victoria's was just a little boring and no enthusiasm or nothing.
I blame poor writing and lack of screentime, honestly. It's hard for an audience to pass fair judgement when we're not allowed to take the time to know her.
Tim burton is great. The characters are so real. The animation blows my mind even though it was for fucking 15 years ago. The script, the music, the atmosphere; everything is amazing. Its one of those rare masterpieces that no matter how many times you watch them, it stays great.
Sara Villarreal To be fair, she was only boring because her parents gave her no freedom. To Victoria, Victor was a breath of fresh air. He already set Emily free at the end...so now he can set Victoria free in a different way :).
Emily was dead, and I think I overlooked that when I was younger as I watched the film and most of us did. It was just a love story that wasn't meant to be.
No the ending was great cause if u really think about it Emily was more in love with the idea of getting married but then she realize she shouldn't take someone elses happiness to please her own.
+Dale Goodsurf Agreed, I believe that what Emily was feeling is called Petrarchan love (in love with the idea of being in love). But it was Victoria and Victor who really longed for one another
Kerry Louise And if u watch the movie you can clearly see that Victor only agreed to marry Emily when he heard that Victoria was gonna get married to another man and if you think about it Victor's mom did say Victoria was the ONLY women Victor knows(Besides his mom ofcurse) soo i guess when he heard Victoria was moving and and getting married Victor went and try to marry his plan B(Emily).
Because she, despite being dead, is full of life and love. She’s relatable on a level or two, longing for her soul mate, the missing piece of her heart, someone to love her for who she is, not what she has.
This has always been one of my favorite scenes from corpse bride. At first when Victor begins playing high notes as if he's saying sorry and asking for forgiveness but then Emily plays deep notes like she's rejecting the apology and keeping her anger. Victor tries again in high notes, making Emily begin to calm down and continue in deep notes. Then they begin to play in the same tone of keys as if they are finally communicating and working it out and then Emily gets carried away with the keys which only gave them a laugh and its as if they made up finally. Even though its just keys and notes, its as if they are actually speaking words.
@@silenceofsolis5032 LIKE- HAS NO ONE MADE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN ONE, THEY LOOK SO SIMILAR AND TWO- victor and victoria- THAT SOUNDS LIKE NAMES YOU GIVE TWINS:!) *:)
@@ethanol4098maybe they were separated at birth with adoption, Or maybe Victor’s family had twins and only needed a son since it was taken at a time when women were seen as worthless and so they disowned the Victoria when she was a baby, put in an orphanage. Victoria’s family adopted her since they couldn’t have children( or because they hated each other so much they refused to have sex, which I could see) and there weren’t any boys to adopt, so they went with Victoria.
If only this was made by Disney "Emily became alive and starts breathing and her heart starts beating due to the true love of Victor n they marry each other and live happily ever after"
It wouldn’t be right if Disney made this it’s just because Tim Burton’s way of choosing the textures, animations, and story is the reason all of us love this Movie 🤧
The Corpse Bride was such and amazing movie. It was dark yet up beat, and I love the music. Piano is a beautiful instrument. The way it's played in this movie is so amazing. I loved the movie because you want Emily and Victor to end up together, but your still happy for Emily when she passes. It was one movie were they didn't end up together but there was still love.
Victor and Emily belonged together and near the end, he actually was falling in love in her, but they were star-crossed from the start. Movies like this are amazing and well-written.
I don't think he genuinely loved her, I think it was more of a "no better option" kind of thing. Yes, he was completely on board with marrying her, but that was moreso out of sympathy and the fact that Victoria, the woman he DID love, or at least had genuine affection for, was to marry another.
More reasons why I liked them together. Victoria didn't have as much character as Emily did. You can see how much Emily cared for Victor, Victoria didn't do much but try to run away and such.
Imagine a movie based on Victorias life when victor disapeered, it goes through all the depression of her losing victor, and the stress she also has to go through
+kayceeBurtonFreak I agree. But that's the point and the beautiful tragedy of the movie. Sometimes things get in the way of True Love. Reality intercedes.
That isn't really fair to say because we never really got to see a lot of Victoria's personality except for in the beginning, which I liked. If I were in Victor's shoes I would have done the same thing. I mean your out in the forest, practicing your engagement speech on what you think is a tree branch and suddenly your sucked into the underworld?! How do you think any sane, rational person would react? He didn't belong there, at least not for many years. I felt bad for Emily because of how she died but her time on earth had passed. Victor helped her let go, free her soul and that is what matters.
After years I still thinks Victor matches better with Emily than with Victoria, why didn't he chose Emily???!!! Edit）came back four years later and I still thinks victor had a better chemistry with Emily, but I understands the ending better now, beautiful movie.
He did chose Emily, but she peffered to do the "right thing"(according to the time they lived in) and let him live to marry the girl, who was still alive and would struggle to find another person to marry.
Also, as much as I would've liked Emily and Victor to get together, Victor was not what Emily needed. Emily invested pretty much all her happiness into the idea of romance but what she really needed was to heal and move on. For her own and Victor's happiness, she learned to find herself without the help of a man.
Nikky Chang because Victoria was his first love. He chose to marry Emily (someone he learned to care for and love) after he learned that Victoria wad already wed to another man. When Lord Bastard (😄) died victor wanted to keep his promise to emily because he didnt want to break her heart again even if it meant that he had to give up on victoria. Could have been a different story with other circumstances.
I remember when I was little I would be so angry that they didn’t end up together. Now that I’m older, I love the ending of this movie and I wouldn’t change it. Since they didn’t end up together, I used to think that Victor didn’t love her, but they do love each other. This is the definition of “right person, wrong time.” I adore this movie.
if you listen to all the music in the film.. every time these characters are on screen they have their own theme songs playing ... well not every time but it is there most of the time and it has different styles too. :D
Honestly, I'm happy Victor married Victoria rather than Emily. Yes, Emily and Victor are very cute together, but she needed to move on. They say if a bride isn't properly buried her soul becomes a butterfly. At the end of the movie Emily was able to move on. She could finally rest in peace, and became butterflies that flew up towards the moon.
Not necessarily "bad", but unpleasant or weird. Some films though are awesome for being weird, taking for instance Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Corpse Bride :D
Bernie's Archer Lol he doesn't get to practice much, I actually have half his part memorized XD But yeah, he's looking into a new keyboard. Since his sibling won't look for the charger in their room.
Emily fell in love with Victor, but still had naive fantasies of true love. Victor grew to like Emily, but agreed to marry her properly after be found out Victoria is marrying someone else and Mayhew told him to move on. In another life, they would've been happy together
@@pranveramulgeci5242 I’m not sure, musical pieces can sound similar. I think this particular song is an original. I know Victor’s piano solo is "Quasi una fantasia," Op. 27, No. 2, by Ludwig van Beethoven.
Honestly I think that’s one of the reasons why this movie didn’t really end up being super popular, it was hard to root for Victor and Victoria to get together when there was absolutely no reason why we’d want that. Romantically at least. The piano scene is a perfect example of that, the fact that they complete each other in a little ways or contribute to each other. With Victoria there’s nothing like that.
No offense but I think Emily is the one who Victor really loved and he just got confused with Victoria because he was used to the concept that Victoria is the one he should love since she was his first. He wasn't able to realize how he really felt about Emily because he was blinded by the fact that "he was inlove with Victoria" but at the end he was willing to risk even his own life for Emily.
i 100% agree on the first part but the only reason victor was willing to kill himself (basically) was because he heard victoria was marrying someone else and he felt betrayed and thought there was nothing else to live for
No offense (and sorry for bad English) but nope. We don't choose who we love and Victor definitely loved Victoria for being herself. But Emily seemed more attractive to fans (because she was beautiful and cute and unusual) and fans decided they should have been together (even though she was DEAD). Because it were you who loved Emily and Victor liked her but you know, he had known her even shorter than he knew Victoria. (But you think arranged marriage is not love by definition, and playing the piano with a corpse must be TRUE LOVE). And you feel bad for Emily because she had been hurt and murdered, and she deserved better. Of course she did, but is this a reason for Victor to marry her??? It's an emotional blackmail. And he decides to marry her just because he feels bad for her and wants her to be happy (because his true love is lost forever). You know, I'm not the prettiest/ the cutest/the most charismatic and unusual girl in the world, but my husband (attractive and talented as hell) loves me the way I am, though he could have married someone more interesting. This is true definition of love. Victor chose his true love, because for him it was Victoria who was special, not Emily. ❤️ Gosh, I really have the „Phantom in the opera” discussion flashbacks, here we go again 🙄
This movie came out 14 years ago today and I still come back and watch it. That's how much I love Tim Burton and his movies. Corpse Bride is definitely my favorite of his films
