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I don’t agree that John saw a real lamb. In his Gospel narrative when John the baptist saw Jesus coming toward him, he said “behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!” Did JTB saw a real Lamb that time? No! He saw Jesus in human flesh.
Calvinist say "calvinism means only by Gods grace we are saved" what they really mean is it is only by Gods unilateral determinism of everything that you are saved . but of course that means God determins everything else , sin , hate , rape , blasphemy , unconditional damnation of babies like baby esau.so its really justifcation by determinism not really grace.
@@MrRainone99 No dumb dumb , I never "quoted anyone" I took what calvin said that "God pre-determines everthing" ( uncontroversial ) and went with the inevitable logic > If God pre-deterimines everything , then He Pre-determines , Sin , Rape , child abuse , child sacrifice Etc , Calvinists then end with the wild illogical claim "but somehow God is somehow not evil himself " which is illogical and is just Calvinists trying to hammer in mysteries / antinomies plugs into their irrational/unbiblical system to keep the logic from going through to its inevitable end. Even if the John Calvinists compatablism illogic went through that Man is still responsible for sins Adam was irresistibly Pre-determined to commit that would still mean Man AND GOD are responsible for the evil , not man alone , are you starting to get it now Mr. Reformed scholar ? or do you still misunderstand ? I can type slower if it helps you with comprehension.
@@MrRainone99 Biblical Arminians (like myself) believe God is omniscient, and Omnipotent ( you are confusing Arminianism with Open theism , try again ) but we also believe in one more qualitiy John Calvinists reject namely God is all good and doesnt Determin all evil from his own imagination from before the foundation of the world then infuse that evil into helpless creatures for his own good pleasure as John Calvinism entails to get the sin done , since libertarian freewill Plus human depravity (which all Arminians believe in ) is sufficient to get the sin done without Gods help as John Calvinism requires. * Everything created by God is Good 1 Tim 4:4 * Evil is from the world not the father 1 John 2:16 * God is light and there is no darkness in him at all 1 John 1:5
@@MrRainone99 Your still confusing Arminianism with Open theism , and actually I am under no logical or moral obligation to answer your question at all , I only need to trust God , trust he did not create or plan evil as his word teaches , its not even from his imagination in any way (as Calvinism exhaustsive determinism entails ) , and simply trust God knows every answer about evil but to assume God created it , planned it , is its source being from the father is to trust the genevan lawyer and not God and his word. 1 Cor 7:37 37 Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having NO NECESSITY , but has POWER OVER HIS OWN WILL. (KJV) * The bible is clear man is libertarian free and invents his own sin with his own imagination , we are under no necessity (exhaustive determinism ) Calvinism is from the Pitt. Try again Joe-y
@@MrRainone99 Joe-y says you "Run away like a little girl" ( when the reality is grand old I never ran away at all , then Joey runs away saying "goodbye" , there were at least 30 questions I gave you Joey impled in my comments and you did not even attempt to answer even one of them , joey joey , joey I would swear you were one of my Fellow Arminian friends pretending to be a typical Calvinist to tickle my sides with side busting laughter , but bizzarely I think you are actually for real due to your mindless calvi-clown cliches , why are John Calvinists always so angry , bitter and incapable of logical or biblical defense ? Oh because thats all theyve got. Just because I dont know the exact reason for every instance of evil , it does not then follow therefor God must have invented every evil himself from before the foundation of the world then irresistibly cause helpless creatures to do the evil Calvi"god" invented himself with his how imagiation , the bible is clear (only man causes evil not God , 1 tim 4:4 , 1 Jn 2:16 , 1 Jn 1:5 , Man invents his own evil with his free but fallen mind , Jer 32:35 , 1 Cor 7:37 , 1 Cor 10:13 , man doesnt need God's Help to get the sin done , Calvinism is from the Pit and I have easily sent it back from which it came. Try again Joey , but dont run away this time.