Under the murky fast-flowing waters of the River Hamble near Southampton lies the skeleton of a great medieval warship. Is it the Grace Dieu, Henry V's naval flagship?
I moved to the US in 2002 and every time I watch one of these I want to go back to Sussex! So I grit my teeth have another bottle of Arrogant Bastard Ale and hope I win the Lottery.
When those ships were built, they use specially grown trees for the hull, they used to forced trees to grow bended by pulling them down in one direction. This from very young trees on, and let them grow bigger bended.
Those nails are more like rail spikes....just wild Those guys had more courage than me in those days, I'd be waiting for the whole thing to just sink when I see how it was built.
1) My thanx to Tony for pointing out that huge rhubarb plant!---2) That failed water tent for this effort made me think about the years of design and building that Meriwether Lewis spent on a boat he thought would make their journey to carry their gear easier, only to discover that it was too big for the Missouri River when they got there, & it had to be abandoned. It would have been a very fine thing to have seen this water tent perform as desired for this episode...
19:00 He is so spot on there. I have often seen the same in vintage airplanes, Building new ones nowadays is different from what they did back then in a "rush". We often think way too clean and nice today, while the focus should be more on function. Really love this show. The entire team is a cool bunch. Thanks for all this.
Phil saying "That is unquestionably the Grace Dieu" one second after having his hand placed on a lump of wood when he had just admitted he couldnt see a thing...really priceless
I wonder what the handling properties of that monster would have been? Learning to handle such an enormous vessel, so much larger than any predecessor would have been a major challenge.
TT did an excellent job producing a very interesting show out of so little archaeology. Every time I see this episode I think TT got conned by the site director since he wasted Channel 4's time with an untested technology. They did a good job politely expressing frustration on camera but I imagine they were screaming behind the scenes. On the other hand, it was a "dig" with only three visible diggers, so maybe the producers used this to fill a weekend when no one was available. I thought Dr. Susan Rose and Damien Goodburn were both delightful additions to brighten this episode. Side note: it wasn't rhubarb but an umbrella plant, or Darmera peltatum.
my take on Tony’s chagrin and the limitation of 3 days to begin with is that they’re merely a bit of “show biz.” Although this wonderful show stands on its own without it, me thinks that someone up the production chain of command preferred at least a bit of angst to have a sort of “hook” for us viewers.
I wish time team could have joined this after it had been on going for a couple of days. I suppose the gentleman wanted it all documented from the beginning of his company's exploration, but I kind of agree with Tony. Couldn't most of this preparation have been done a day prior to Time Team's arrival? But then again what better way to have John's work completely documented for Free than this show?
Judging by the fact that she was constantly driven to beach in mud coves, I’d say she wouldn’t float without constant bailing. This would explain the crew’s disdain.
For those complaining about Tony's impatience might want to remember this was scripted. Just like when the archeologist ask questions of the other experts when you know Mick, Phil and the others already know.
@@deborahvretis3195 his attitude seems to change during the next few years. All these men & eventually women, are very close friends after these many years. Only 13 shows a year . There always has to be the naysayer to balance a show. I must have watched these over & over 6x. You get an appreciation for Tony & his British humor, which balances the show. This was made starting in 1994. What our views now with social media making snowflakes okay to be offended by every little nuance, wasn't around back then. Now, i didn't like but grew to understand the need for his humor to balance it out with all the learned men & women , so the audience wasn't offended by educated people digging in the dirt in a joking manner. I didn't like Tony either at first, but now see him as he is.
I think one reason for the 3 planks of oak nailed together would not only strengthen the hull due to the overall weight of the ship, but also provide thicker protection from cannon broadsides during a fight.
rm2ken cannons weren’t really a big factor when this ship was in service. The first ever English cannon ever used in a battle happened during the 100 years war. Bows, crossbows and lots of men were the main weapons.
Tony: "Phil, you don't have to wait for geophys this time." Phil: "Yay... haha..." Also Phil later: "Working underwater is dangerous, we have to make sure everything is safe before we start." Lol Phil just loves to tease John.
It seems obvious from the sketches of this ship, that the deign was seriously flawed. Just like the Mary Rose, the Centre of Gravity COG was far too high which would mean under a good wind and sail, it would capsize.
Reminds me of the Swedish ship Wasa, from 1700s, that was the greatest ship built in Sweden... and sunk on its maiden voyage while hardly off the harbor.
I thought the Mary Rose sunk because the sailors didn't speak or understand the English commands, coming from Spain and Portugal and so on, and when she turned they left the openings for the canons open, flooding it.
One has to wonder if the ship was abandoned so soon after launching because it wasn't sea worthy. It's design sure looks like it would've been difficult to handle under sail.
_says boards 'look rough' and shows sign of not caring about the quality/crude worksmanship_ Well, considering they were made in the early 1400's and weren't found until the early 1800's... I think it is safe to assume they didn't look crude and rough originally.
They're holding the planks up while trying to drive the huge nails through them, and their own weight is acting against the process so the nails don't seat properly. Might the original builders have positioned the segments horizontally to fasten them, since they would only later have the inner hull positioned inside?
This ship reminds me of The Swedish Vasa ship built in 1628 that sailed for only 1300 meters. It’s one of the top 5 tourist attractions in all of the Nordic countries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)
@@yvonnethompson844 Oak wood of this age is most likely still in a good codition. Look at the wood samples presented in this episode that were collected in Victorian times.
Dear Complainers I was Just watching this enjoying it as such, Until i look below and see all the self centered comments... no body's perfect is the first basic of understanding people use it.... Do you really think in your own mind that they really care for your comments ... i dont really care i just noticed that there is many people that have problems your not the only one but they don't care about what you think and i would not blame someone else because we are clearly not perfect... so in conclusion to what i have just typed to you take a good look at your self how are you better then these people... they aren't any better then you... and they don't care about that because get this there happy being who they are at least most of the people i know are. so just relax its the internet but still we need less self centered comments thanks.
Dostoevsky suggested a society could be measured by the treatment of prisoners..... Whereas I've come to the opinion that you can study our society by the comments left on any given RU-vid video. (likely I'll not be given so much as a footnote, so this spot will have to do) Pick a video at random and even if a post is relevant and polite, it's like a bone to the pack of ravenous (and angry) dogs - even if it's a random Time Team video, some humans can't hold their hate inside. I wager you could land on 'Suzy's Needlepoint Natter' (I wager something very close to this actually exists, because ..people) and you'll eventually come across a similar pack of vile, sewing fanatic hounds who've mercilessly taken down an innocent, unassuming octogenarian who's wandered into the arena with a bone too juicy to be ignored by members of the angry, anonymous, socially maladjusted canines. (Suzy's Needlepoint Natter has never been the same, she can't even scrub the blood off the walls of her lobby.) In a far away galaxy, years ago or years beyond, intelligent life is perhaps drawn to study our rock and delight that they've finally found a species out in the dark void to bond with. Maybe these aliens were just about ready to climb aboard their advanced space faring ships and come welcome us into the galactic fold. But alas, performing a random, last minute check on our intellectual and social capacity brought up something called 'You Tube'. And after scrolling through page after page of mindless, belligerent and spiteful postings, the aliens arrive at a unanimous, wise and rational decision: Fuck this. (This goes for Suzy and her bitchy needlepoint posse too)
What the hell are YOU bitching & complaining about?? How about you eat some crow? No one but you, as far I can ascertain, is being nasty. Take your meds!
I remember as a kid, many moons ago, there was a lot of talk about Britain and USA having to convert from inches to metric as the rest the world was metric. Britain did a better job of converting. We Americans said we would worry about it if the time came, and it didn't.
47:27 "the Grace Dieu was a battleship without a war" ??? The 100 year war with France doesn't count then? No, she was a battleship without a king. When Henry V died his idiot son lost everything he'd achieved and had no use for the ship; that's why it was left to rot.
Henry V died when Henry VI was 9 months old, so paternal parenting is not a factor, Cath. Khasab, Henry VI suffered from schizophrenia, not idiocy. VI pursued peace, not war like his father V, so was considered weak willed by those advocating war.
Dr. Rose is so enthusiastic, just like a little girl. Fun to watch her. Tony was really in pisser mode, or I guess just trying to make more out of this show than three days allowed.
Lucy Gray my take on Tony’s chagrin and the limitation of 3 days to begin with is that they’re merely a bit of “show biz.” Although this wonderful show stands on its own without it, me thinks that someone up the production chain of command preferred at least a bit of angst.
If all the available iron had been used to build the boat, maybe they did not have any left for making ammunition. Imagine all those soldiers on the lofty forecastle without any ammunition, no iron arrow tips, no swords....
+Fox1nDen Items such as swords and arrow tips may be already owned by the soldiers on board the ship and if not, they could have bought weapons and ammunition.
Lol giving Carenza the "job" of Explaining to Dr. Pryor the accounts of the ship being built seem like another example of giving her the opportunity to Talk & Talk, Again. Francis Pryor knows more about archeology than she ever will & he has discovered and dug more important sites, found more important objects and written more Papers than she ever has or will. The lengths taken to give her on air time is drastically obvious. Helen please.....Sooner??
+Marto Rambo why, because I watched a show I love and made a harmless joke? Maybe you should stop trolling RU-vid comments searching for things to get offended by.
+NolaGal2601 I think that's what he's paid to be, so that the 'team' can snatch victory from the jaws of defeat & make the show seem more exciting. Though to be honest I'd be happier if they didn't bother with all the fake drama.
