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Origins of the Twelve Tribes of Israel:
• Historical Origin of t...
History of Islamic Gaza:
• The History of Islamic...
Charts & Narration by Matt Baker
Animation by Syawish Rehman
Audio editing by Ali Shahwaiz
Intro music: "Lord of the Land" by Kevin MacLeod and licensed under Creative Commons Attribution license 4.0. Available from incompetech.com

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@UsefulCharts
@UsefulCharts 3 дня назад
Go to ground.news/charts to get all sides of every story on what’s happening in Gaza, Palestine and around the world. Subscribe through my link to save 40% off unlimited access.
@andtheycallhimdamned
@andtheycallhimdamned 3 дня назад
Proverb 24 (Septuagint/Nicholas King) Verse 11; Deliver those who are being led to death and buy back those who are being killed; do not spare [yourself] - I might be wrong but there appears to be a certain amount of prophecy going on.
@bengee4841
@bengee4841 2 дня назад
Hello UsefulCharts, im new to your channel and i really enjoy your videos. Im really looking for a video where it shows the changes of our calenders. For i know the Jewish calender is different to the Julian calender as well as the Gregorian calender. Do you have a video on how the world ended up adapting to the gregorian calender? Or what calenders they were using in the past?
@starcapture3040
@starcapture3040 2 дня назад
your implementation of terms is wrong. Bronze Age canaanite are the same iron age cannaits./ israel is a term called exclusively for people of a certain religion. Israel is a religious name not a geographic name. jews came from Mesopotamia not from the native canaan land. Amrits,Mobait,Adomits,Ammonites,Phoenicians are all canaanites. israelites literature is extremely influenced by mesopotamian religion not by canaanite religion. there is no such thing as iron age canaanites called Israelites.
@NicitoStaAna
@NicitoStaAna 2 дня назад
Israeli operation in Gaza is not wrong/illegal. No one called the Allied forces genocidal when they bombed/starved Berlin. Unless it only applies when the victims are non-whites. Is that it? Read a book, More specifically, the rules of war as agreed and legally defined in UN Hospitals/Cultural/Historical places/Schools/places of worship. All lose their legal protection if they put weapons/ammunitions/hostages inside those places. Blame the Nakba on the Arab League who chose war instead of a citizen/land swap. Blame the Destruction of Gaza on those who put missiles/hostages under their children's bed just to score sympathy points.
@starcapture3040
@starcapture3040 2 дня назад
@@NicitoStaAna WTF! Israel has no right to defend itself from the people it occupies
@W4HB
@W4HB День назад
As an Arab, i found this video very enjoyable and i salute you for not picking sides and just stating facts as they are. Thank you and keep making great content ❤
@n124ac9
@n124ac9 3 дня назад
Perhaps the least controversial video there is.
@af8828
@af8828 3 дня назад
His use of the historical method should quell some of that "controversy". However the more contemporary claims in the video, and the solutions he advocates for are kind of problematic, as addressed below with timestamps: 30:14 "...the (Ashkenazi) Jewish newcomers were fleeing heavy persecution (in Europe) and *didn't really have anywhere else to go*" This is a statement which contradicts your earlier point on them (ie. secular/ atheist zionists) selecting multiple places to establish a nation-state. They had many places they could've gone to where the diaspora was living normal lives. They also had the option of settling other lands which were under colonial administration which may genuinely have been "empty", unlike the land they selected which was inhabited by *indigenous* Jew, Christians, Muslims and other religious groups with the same ethnic background (ie. the "mixed bag" you correctly referenced repeatedly). 30:55 *Worst ever genocide* is again, an objectively false statement. It's a popular talking point which is a form of genocide denial (ie. underplaying the many genocides outside of Europe which were quantifiably worse). Holocaust-esque genocides imposed by the colonial powers were the norm for the global majority - the reason it is (wrongly) portrayed as unique is because the Germans exerted that colonial violence *internally* onto Europe, which was deemed unacceptable by inter-colonial competition. 31:05 "Western countries were reluctant to take in Jews, thus the need for Jews to have their own state" First, the attempts to establish a Jewish state on this land preceded these events by decades via the explicitly *colonial* Zionist movement espoused by Herzl in collusion with the British who sought to use their classic colonial tactic of ethnic division to weaken a land. Second, Jews were living normal lives everywhere outside of ehite supremacist Europe. Third, the UN created a plan with borders which mirrored those of apartheid South Africa, with the indigenous inhabitants relegated to disconnected "bantustans" while the colonially imported population were given land on top of the homes of the indigenous. Out of the thousands of ethnicities most do not have a nation-state, as there are under 200 nations. We already established there have been worse genocides across the global majority, so that can't be the answer. Why should Ashkenazi Jews be the exception, especially given their colonial nation-state would be established on inhabited land? The answer is: they shouldn't. The nation state is an inherently backwards idea which inevitably results in fascistic nationalism in an effort to establish (fabricate) a unified "national" identity, as opposed to the "mixed bag" which has existed in the region forever. 31:20 "The two sides went to war" War is an inaccurate descriptor; it was one side resisting a plan created by an outright colonial/imperialist entity (the UN was a tool of imperialism at this point in history; still is to an extent). They were being expelled from homes they inhabited for dozens of generations so the victims of the holocaust (ie. European victims of European colonial violence turned inwards onto Europe) could settle on top of those homes. It was indiegnous resistance to colonialism. 31:38 "In reponse around the same number of Jews were expelled from the neighboring Arab countries". While the rise of nationalism did occur is *some* regions of the Arab world as the colonial powers lost their grip and created deliberately divisive nation-state borders (recall my point on the trajectory the nation-state inevitably leads to under a diverse society), the major cause of the outflow of Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews into the new colonial state of "Israel" was caused by *Zionist extremists* either committing violent acts to stoke further religious division or outright kidnapping their Jewish children to import into "Israel".
@ChrisHuston.
@ChrisHuston. 3 дня назад
This reply should probably be moved to the main level as a Comment. Some important takes/perspectives to consider.
@jakoboka
@jakoboka 3 дня назад
​@@af8828ok so you think you are right?
@asbu5716
@asbu5716 3 дня назад
It is controversial.
@l4nd3r
@l4nd3r 3 дня назад
@@af8828 You should make this a main comment (so more people and Matt can see it) with some citations of sources you based your arguments on, i agree with some of your points but i'm ignorant on others (like the pogroms on Jews post UN partition plan).
@yazanaltamimi
@yazanaltamimi День назад
Bro, as a Palestinian I admire every line in this video. well researched and absent of ideologies. This narrative is what we need today for a just peace in this area. Thank you!
@owenbarnes8814
@owenbarnes8814 2 дня назад
This might be the most balanced and accurate history of Israel and Palestine I've seen on social media
@vincent412l7
@vincent412l7 3 дня назад
I'd be interested in a similar video for Armenia.
@avtaras
@avtaras 3 дня назад
Same (I mean before I unsubscribed). 700,000 Azeri refugees in First Nagorno-Karabakh war. Nakba number. But nobody talks about it because it doesn’t interest the left, because those secular Turkic Muslims’ blood isn’t as red as the Arabs. In particular, it isn’t as red as Palestinian blood. In particular, Azerbaijan is not situated in the site of a holy site contended by Islam and the religion it plagiarised and whose clerics are most scared of, so it’s less important to talk about.
@bneymanov
@bneymanov 3 дня назад
Yes! I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be surprised to learn that in the last 420 years about 270 years the Azerbaijani population was the ethnic majority in what now is known as Armenia.
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu 2 дня назад
​@@bneymanovHistory of Armenia would be like mostly Urartians in the ancient ages, Romans in the first millennium CE with a bit of Arab Caliphates, and Turkic dynasties in the 2nd millennium CE with a tiny amount of Mongol rule
@gurbanabbasov
@gurbanabbasov 2 дня назад
@@nenenindonuarmenians has nothing to do with urartians. Their redorded history started with 5th century AD writings which in itself is borrowed from ephiopians…
@nenenindonu
@nenenindonu 2 дня назад
@@gurbanabbasov Yes Urartians indeed have nothing to with Armenians just how Romans & Turks don't, I just mentioned them as a former ruling entity of what is now Armenia
@kreis497
@kreis497 3 дня назад
much appreciated, very good video. reminds me of the quote "if we don't learn from history we are doomed to repeat it"
@valerieprice-wn9qb
@valerieprice-wn9qb 2 дня назад
I guess it depends on if your history is the truth or just embarrassing nonsense
@TheMarlinlask
@TheMarlinlask День назад
In this survey timeline, is there any indication of what not to repeat, huh?
@almag4571
@almag4571 2 дня назад
Matt, thank you so much for this video. As a person living in the middle east and inside this conflict, I've been staying away from online content pertaining to it. I'm just sick and tired of people throwing out their hateful and ignorant opinions so carelessly, while living out their comfortable lives millions of mile away and not really understanding what it might be like to be born into this reality. The only thing worse is the hateful and biased of some people who were born into it, and are poisoned by generations of mutual distrust and national animosity. When I saw your video I was very hesitant at first. But you've never let me down before, and you handled masterfully other controversial subjects in the past. I've been waiting for someone willing to just explain the dry facts of this millennia long story, address some of its complexities, and do it in a way that left me unsure of your personal political view (at least until the end, where you presented it with your disclaimer). I could talk about where I agree and disagree with you, but I find it more important to appreciate your honest attempt at looking at both sides and their narratives, and recognizing the pain each one goes through. And to finish with my own prayer - may the extremists on both sides that led us to this mess get to feel all the pain they bring down on us.
@EH23831
@EH23831 День назад
Praying that our and yours are safe.
@faiznaaman
@faiznaaman 3 дня назад
As a Malay Muslim from Malaysia I've found this video is less biased if not unbiased at all. Thanks Matt Baker.
@exploratorize7703
@exploratorize7703 3 дня назад
As educated rational people, we only care about facts and research, not blind beliefs. I can confidently say, as a Malay you are no way related to this area or the Arabian dogma. You are just fed this since childhood. Connect to your real Malay roots.
@faiznaaman
@faiznaaman 3 дня назад
@@exploratorize7703 You don't need to teach me about my roots. You just need to respect Muslims and what their belief as we respect others. It is not about Arabian dogma or any race. It is about Abrahamic Religions and world's geopolitics. So if you are an atheist, that's your life, not mine.
@exploratorize7703
@exploratorize7703 3 дня назад
@@faiznaaman define muslim beliefs?
@faiznaaman
@faiznaaman 3 дня назад
@@exploratorize7703 Based on our 5 pillars of Islam and 6 pillars of faith. You can Google it yourself and read.
@foxinaround1220
@foxinaround1220 3 дня назад
​​​@@exploratorize7703 What does him being a malaysian have to do with anything? So you have to be a certain race to talk about political subjects?? For example do i have to be ukranian or russians to talk about that war ?? M cofused
@januszbogumil
@januszbogumil 3 дня назад
what have the mongols Not invaded at this point?
@jasperchance3382
@jasperchance3382 3 дня назад
Italy
@phillee2814
@phillee2814 3 дня назад
🇬🇧
@sdrawkcabUK
@sdrawkcabUK 3 дня назад
Bermuda
@4sythdude549
@4sythdude549 3 дня назад
The Moon ...not yet at least
@januszbogumil
@januszbogumil 2 дня назад
@@4sythdude549 It's only a matter of time
@DJ-fl4gn
@DJ-fl4gn 2 дня назад
7:37 - The Bronze Age collapse didn't lead to the fall of Egypt. In fact, Egypt was the only major power in the region to survive. It hurt Egypt to be sure, but it continued to exist thereafter.
@saifhazem7164
@saifhazem7164 День назад
Both him and you are correct, he said the bronze age collapse lead to the downfall of Egypt which is true as Egypt did survive it but it was so weakened from the events that it continued declining while new emerging powers kept rising in power till Egypt itself was conquered by foreigners like the Libyan and Nubian dynasties (3rd intermediate period and late period in A. Egypt). So yes you are correct that Egypt did not fall in the bronze age collapse, but he is also correct that the collapse was one of the direct causes of Egypt's downfall. Alongside weak rulers who could at best slow the rapid decline of the Egyptian empire, such as all the Ramsisides from Ramses 5 and on.
@jlt4219
@jlt4219 День назад
yes! it is still survive today!
@eightywight
@eightywight 7 часов назад
Egypt however would be forever ruined aftee the Nuabian invasion and the intermixing. After the Nubian Invasion, Egypt was always controlled by various empires.
@RealUlrichLeland
@RealUlrichLeland 3 дня назад
It's worth noting that even though it only began in the 1850s, the origin of a unified Palestinian national identity isn't especially recent in the grand scheme of things. The Italian Reunification and Greek war of independence happened at around the same time. Before each of those events the modern concept of an Italian or a Greek didn't exist, despite their extensive ancient history. Pre unification Italians would only identify with their region, as a Venetian, Genoese, or Sicilian etc. Before Greek independence from the Ottoman empire, Greeks identified themselves in censuses as Romans, because of their millennia long association with the Eastern Roman Empire.
@davelonghi8229
@davelonghi8229 3 дня назад
This comment should be pinned
@kfiraltberger552
@kfiraltberger552 3 дня назад
Ethnicity in general is a modern idea. Just like Zionism, which is simply ethnicity with extra steps.
@SuperMovieLvr933
@SuperMovieLvr933 3 дня назад
Exactly. Nationalism itself didn't begin until the 17th Century at the earliest.
@GiuseppePipia
@GiuseppePipia 3 дня назад
Not true with your concept of Italy. As Italia it existed already in Roman times, although languages evolved differently, but they all were Italian in a way or another. It was just the single noble houses, along with international affairs (French and Austrians in the North, Spanish in the South, with the Pope in the center), that would keep it apart.
@seanclark2085
@seanclark2085 3 дня назад
Ethno states have existed in all recorded history , Nationalism is nothing new, conquest, colonisation and settlement was the norm .
@185MDE
@185MDE 3 дня назад
So excited to watch this video!!!! Anytime I am asked "who started the fighting there" my only answer is "it depends when you start the story"
@TracyD2
@TracyD2 3 дня назад
It’s true.
@185MDE
@185MDE 3 дня назад
@@TracyD2 unfortunately when having to answer the question “who is the aggressor” it’s really going to be whoever is answering that question is going to answer with who they are aligned with. Because there are arguments for both unfortunately.
@YahiaMansouri
@YahiaMansouri 3 дня назад
@@185MDE Both siding a genocide?
@philo9046
@philo9046 3 дня назад
@@185MDE would you have both sided a genocide if the Palestinians were westerners?
@185MDE
@185MDE 3 дня назад
@@philo9046 please don’t twist my words
@belialord
@belialord 3 дня назад
2:35 Correction: not just the local population of the southern Levant, but the whole Levant was inhabited by Canaanites, to the point that the most important Canaanite archeological site nowadays is often considered to be the city of Ugarit, which is in modern day Syria. Later, northern Canaanites became known as Phoenicians by the Greeks and Romans, but preserved much of their culture and identity (including religion) until the end of antiquity.
@habibi_sport312
@habibi_sport312 2 дня назад
Not the entire Levant, just west of the Jordan and Orontes. To the east it was populated by Arameans, and other Arab(ish) groups (edomites, nabateans, moabites, ammonites, so on). To the north there were Assyrians and Hittites and Armenians. The Arameans that migrated north became known as Syriacs.
@starcapture3040
@starcapture3040 2 дня назад
@@habibi_sport312 Arameans, amorits,(edomites,Moabits,Ammonits are canaanites too
@belialord
@belialord 2 дня назад
@@habibi_sport312 No, they weren't confined like that, they were all over the ancient world. The Canaanites spread across the Mediterranean and founded many colonies that became major cities (e.g., Carthage), even as far as Spain.
@belialord
@belialord 2 дня назад
@@habibi_sport312 But I do get the point that the areas you mentioned were _mainly_ populated by these other peoples.
@mikkisixx3086
@mikkisixx3086 2 дня назад
Ba'al Hammon be praised!
@ISawABear
@ISawABear 3 дня назад
Should have just let the Sea Peoples keep it /s That being said i think this is a really cool format for you guys. You should do this for major cities around the world. i bet people would love posters of the timeline of their city they live in!
@jasperchance3382
@jasperchance3382 3 дня назад
better still if Rome never fell and Christianity and Islam never came to be.
@Emcee_Squared
@Emcee_Squared 2 дня назад
Ok go tell that the Nebuchadnezzar II
@user-zr9ze7sm4b
@user-zr9ze7sm4b День назад
Ramses lll is the one who make them settle there after a treaty with them those people likely where running from 300 years of drought in the region
@sammysamlovescats
@sammysamlovescats 3 дня назад
I can't wait for this comment section to be perfectly calm, rational, and respectful :)
@NeilEvans-xq8ik
@NeilEvans-xq8ik 3 дня назад
Hello there. How do you do? A very intelligent comment. I respect you for it.
@ksorabbit
@ksorabbit 3 дня назад
Totally calm as forecasted.
@duduchannel6729
@duduchannel6729 3 дня назад
There are more of these comments than controversial ones
@Rakettivuori
@Rakettivuori 3 дня назад
Honestly I can't see any crazy comments
@sammysamlovescats
@sammysamlovescats 3 дня назад
@@duduchannel6729 In my defense, I wrote this like 2 minutes after the video came out, but hey, I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than not!
@pederw4900
@pederw4900 3 дня назад
Wonderful video, thank you for laying out this history so clearly, I’m gonna show this to my family so they can have context.
@eljestLiv
@eljestLiv 3 дня назад
This should be mandatory viewing for anyone discussing this conflict. I disagree with some things you say here and there, but I think that we must all put our differences behind us and work together, united towards peace.
@benclark4823
@benclark4823 3 дня назад
You can’t have “peace” if one side refuses to actually accept your existence and wants to eradicate you from existence. 😒
@benclark4823
@benclark4823 3 дня назад
You can’t work together towards “peace” if one side doesn’t want to. 😒
@snomcultist189
@snomcultist189 3 дня назад
@benclark However you can if a majority of people want peace and it’s just the keyboard warriors, such as yourself, polarised people and radicalised people who believe that their side is just.
@kfiraltberger552
@kfiraltberger552 3 дня назад
@@snomcultist189 Which isn't the situation currently in Palestine, neither in Gaza nor in the West Bank.
@benclark4823
@benclark4823 3 дня назад
@@snomcultist189 funny how I never said that one side was actually “just” lol. 😒 also do you REALLY think that the side who ALWAYS refuses peace when it’s given to them is the one who actually wants it? 🫤
@simmyjester
@simmyjester 3 дня назад
22:27 When you got to the Mongols, my mind went directly to the running bit from early Crash Course World History. ^_^
@grtlyblesd
@grtlyblesd 4 часа назад
Wait for it… the Mongols!
@AxlTCU
@AxlTCU 3 дня назад
The comments will definitely be civil for this one.
@cometmoon4485
@cometmoon4485 3 дня назад
Why the sarcasm? The comments are civil.
@Marcus-nn6js
@Marcus-nn6js 2 дня назад
Indeed they are.
@phlezktravels
@phlezktravels День назад
@@AxlTCU 🔥🇮🇱🔥
@rakeantl6730
@rakeantl6730 День назад
@@cometmoon4485 the comments ARE civil, the replies however...
@shannonkilpatrick-ls7ul
@shannonkilpatrick-ls7ul 3 дня назад
Wait. I know this is important stuff about things going on but the only thing I really took away from this is that Egypt had colonies outside of it's traditional borders during the pre dynastic period. I didn't know this and it kinda blew my mind a little bit.
@MrRizeAG
@MrRizeAG 3 дня назад
The Dynasty numbers were decided before the period before Dynasty 1 was well understood. There is a Dynasty 0. That's who this refers to.
@R...T
@R...T 3 дня назад
This video sold me the impression that you are very reasonable and unbiased. Thank you so much for the great video.
@figrollin
@figrollin 23 часа назад
Unfortunately, this is a veneer. We are all biased, and Matt's fundamentally pro-Israeli stance reveals itself here in his contemporary statements, as alluded to in other high ranking comments.
@NielsHoogvliet
@NielsHoogvliet 15 часов назад
​@@figrollin He's not that fundamentally pro-Israel right? In the end he says he supports the current protests against what the Israeli government is doing.
@zelenisok
@zelenisok 3 дня назад
30:00 During British Palestine it's not the Brits who were selling (or "giving away") the land to Jews to settle, Jewish migrants (and their organizations) were buying land from the big landowning families - Arab, Lebanese, Greek, or Turkish. For example one of the biggest purchases was the so called Sursock Purchases, where huge amounts of land were bought from the Sursock family, a Greek family who owned really large amounts of lands there.
@adrianblake8876
@adrianblake8876 3 дня назад
The key word is "selling". Every Jewish owned land up to 1945 has been legitimately owned by them. They didn't commit any land theft, and that meme has to stop...
@levantineking98
@levantineking98 3 дня назад
@@adrianblake8876 lol by 1947, they owned less than 7% of the land.... and then in 1948, they were awarded about 55% by the imperial powers to form their state, at the expense of the native population ofcourse. Cut the bull.
@yakov95000
@yakov95000 3 дня назад
​@@levantineking98 If I am not mistaken Arabs have around the same Precentage of ownership ~10%,Jews lived and migrated to Israel since beginning of recorded history before Arabs even been there so saying they "Native"(while they came ad conquering empire)is dumb
@levantineking98
@levantineking98 3 дня назад
@@yakov95000 modern day palestinians aren’t descendants of peninsular Arabs, they were just conquered by them lol. And you are mistaken, Arabs owned around 35 percent of the land and the rest was state owned, and besides, the land ownership system was different as they had communal ownership, before the European colonizers arrived. What you’re saying sounds like “well native Americans didn’t technically own the land according to our European standards/laws, they just lived there.”
@cometmoon4485
@cometmoon4485 3 дня назад
​@@adrianblake8876Approximately 15% of all land in israel is owned by the JNF, a private organisation that explicitly REFUSES to sell land to non-Jews. In 2004, the JNF proudly declared in the Supreme Court of israel that it does not have a duty to practice equality to all citizens of the country. israel is a vile apartheid state built on ethnic supremacy.
@michaelrae9599
@michaelrae9599 3 дня назад
Amazing how history crystallizes insight. Great video.
@juanfervalencia
@juanfervalencia 3 дня назад
This is how you approach this topic, we should all learn from Matt.
@hanojo6098
@hanojo6098 3 дня назад
The information in this video are not all accurate. Not historical nor religious accurate .most of information provided in this video Contradict with the archaeological and genetic informations.
@juanfervalencia
@juanfervalencia 3 дня назад
Can you suggest academic material that proves your point?
@juanfervalencia
@juanfervalencia 2 дня назад
guess not, I read it in your comment
@andrewbecker1013
@andrewbecker1013 2 дня назад
​@@hanojo6098 How so? What archeological and genetic evidence contradicts anything in the video? I'm not aware of any.
@magnadramon0068
@magnadramon0068 2 дня назад
I'm glad to see a video on Palestine that isn't just propaganda.
@ImDenny_
@ImDenny_ 3 дня назад
Excellent video! ❤
@ngonim1993
@ngonim1993 3 дня назад
Wow! Very balanced and enlightening. It's easy for people to look at what's happening using a limited scope. But clearly a lot has happened before 7th October going centuries that needs to be recognised. Thanks a lot for this Matt!
@user-js8lf4ux1u
@user-js8lf4ux1u 5 часов назад
As an individual coming from the Middle East I appreciate you did not pick sides and just stated facts
@khairilfaiz1914
@khairilfaiz1914 2 дня назад
Matt, I think. The Palestine election in 2006 is an essential story to tell in this timeline.
@Uulfinn
@Uulfinn День назад
The election where the winning party had publicly declared they would hunt all of the jews around the planet? No, palestinians would never vote for something that openly violent and hateful.
@TheSignofJonah777
@TheSignofJonah777 2 дня назад
Good to note that many of the arabs that had to flee in the "Nakba" were sent letters by Egypt that they were going to war. 1/3 didn't leave and many of those people still live in Israel today.
@buttershy_
@buttershy_ 2 дня назад
thank you
@beschutzer42
@beschutzer42 3 дня назад
Please start making the distinction between "archaeological record" and "archaeological theory." The record contains artifacts that explicitly indicate something. Such as an inscription, definite material evidence, etc. Theory pertains to ideas, perhaps mainstream, that COULD be supported by findings. Archaeologists won't love you but historians certainly will!
@sonicgoo1121
@sonicgoo1121 2 дня назад
Wouldn't that be hypothesis then?
@beschutzer42
@beschutzer42 2 дня назад
@@sonicgoo1121 not necessarily. An hypothesis comes earlier in the process before any research has been done.
@notsological3734
@notsological3734 День назад
Matt, you forgot that 2005, all Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip and four Israeli settlements in the West Bank were unilaterally dismantled. Israeli settlers and army evacuated from inside the Gaza Strip, redeploying its military along the border.
@Firefly763
@Firefly763 13 часов назад
He didnt mention a lot of important things.. So many misinformation, and information leaving out the most important details are spread on the internet. And then when it fits their narrative, people thank for the 'unbiased info.
@estherstrek4796
@estherstrek4796 3 дня назад
Matt, I was scared for a moment on how you would land this. Well done.
@muhammadsyed49
@muhammadsyed49 2 дня назад
why Baker has always been straight
@darthparallax5207
@darthparallax5207 2 дня назад
In an imperfect world where nobody is completely straight, he sticks landings with more consistency than many/most. I seem to recall one time I was annoyed with a take of his in a different video. It should definitely be noted that of all the history and news sources I watch, I think I can say quickly off the top of my head he has annoyed me the least number of times and the count still stands at only once in quite a few years and perhaps hundreds of videos. Not perfect technically but I'd challenge others to do better than that and I wouldn't expect them to succeed.
@darthparallax5207
@darthparallax5207 2 дня назад
If Hamas is too popular and Arafats legacy has withered and died too much, then unfortunately Baker essentially stopped talking right at the important moment. By the arguments he himself makes for what he supports, Hamas is beyond the pale. At the very least Israel is far more sympathetic than Hamas, and there either will be or won't be a restoration of Arafat. It would be significantly important to give more indication of how strong Hamas is and whether there's anything left of the version of Palestine that would work. Arab Spring matters. Afghanistan matters. Did the radicals remove obstacles in their way helping to bring the war to an escalated peak forcing Israel to fight in an existential matter. I am concerned about the possibility of it being up to that bad while struggling to find clear minded sources willing to sift through report honestly reveal what they know and make clear what the situation truly is, whether it is too late to go back or not. It would seem like Israel is frightened that if it does not do what it is doing they will be extinguished. And when Jews bring up that they are afraid of extermination it pays to listen. I can't find a lot of people willing to bring up Yasser Arafat at all Which worries me that Hamas has obliterated and replaced that option with a much more impossible situation than was present as recently as the 90s. It's an important issue to untangle. If Hamas cannot, does not, and should not represent all Palestine, most of the way things are being reported needs to change. But it seems like Hamas desires to be all Palestine and has taken steps to try to achieve that. None of that was addressed in the video at all and that was really the only part that would have been mysterious to basically anyone with an internet connection in the past 20 years.
@buttershy_
@buttershy_ 2 дня назад
​@@darthparallax5207it's your third to last paragraph that really hits me because when you get accustomed to it, you can tell when a lot of journalism/press has to be approved by hamas or fall into the "party line" (for lack of a better term for my knowledge) of hamas to be allowed out into the world. it has been so harmful. as someone with close ties to israel i just want peace. regardless of arguments about who got there first or everything that happened in the past, the solution should never be to keep killing each other, but it seems that any glimmer of stability was destroyed in October. most of the activists I see on either side, especially the popular ones, believe all the land is theirs and the other must be taken out. it really hurts. I want future generations to grow up in a safe and free environment, but the more this goes on, everyone is just going to be radicalised to the point where it really never ends. I am so sad about it. what could have been a brilliant place is getting destroyed
@joshme3659
@joshme3659 2 дня назад
@@darthparallax5207ive read the words of Israel’s goverment ministers ben givir and Shimoltrovich and they have pretty clear genocidal intent towards the Palestinians, they want to take all their land and dont want to give the Palestinians citisenship, so where are they meant to go?
@xway2
@xway2 3 дня назад
A two-state solution sounds great in theory but your map here actually is a great example of why it would be extremely difficult. Nobody is going to agree on the borders, and in particular who should get control over East Jerusalem. You put it as Israeli here, but the Palestinians absolutely do not agree.
@vblake530530
@vblake530530 День назад
As a Jew myself, I totally agree with you. I hope more people see this excellent presentation, Doc!
@leopard6554
@leopard6554 День назад
So this conflict is as old as civilization itself...!!! Thank you for shedding light on this...!!!
@raquelhoffmann4
@raquelhoffmann4 3 дня назад
Matt, this is amazing!
@welcometonebalia
@welcometonebalia 3 дня назад
Thank you (and good luck).
@maheshs4056
@maheshs4056 3 дня назад
Matt, you deserve a pat on your back for this video and all the work that went into it. Such a historically significant place this is. I wish I had a time machine to go back in time and see how it's people have evolved and grown over the years.
@ignagalindo
@ignagalindo 2 дня назад
A historiographic argument much-needed in its patience, balance, nuance and deeply humanistic rigor. Thanks Matt, once again.
@ianeveratt7273
@ianeveratt7273 3 дня назад
Thanks for this video. Looking from afar it seems to me until both sides accept the others right to exist and govern there selves freely and independently, these atrocities will not stop. All people should have the right to live in peace.
@EnergeiaRhythmos
@EnergeiaRhythmos 2 дня назад
Thank you so much for spitting the truth ☪️✡️❤
@anappealtoheaven2024
@anappealtoheaven2024 3 дня назад
I completely agree with many of the comments - your overview and descriptions of events were well-prepared and thoughtful. You focused on informing the audience and excluded the contentious and destructive details that would have detracted from the educational aspect of the timeline. It's very impressive and incredibly well done Matt 👏
@arnbrandy
@arnbrandy 3 дня назад
What a wonderful video! Thank you for the excellent research and presentation. One point I find a bit simplified is equating Caananites with Israelites. It is a great way to show how the Israelites were mostly local Caananite tribes, in contrast with the biblical narrative of migration and conquest. But there were others, no? Like the Moabites and Phoenicians?
@UsefulCharts
@UsefulCharts 2 дня назад
True
@Sy5temfire
@Sy5temfire 3 дня назад
Excellent work. Always blown away by your research and of course, graphics! Everyone should watch this.
@Weesperbuurt
@Weesperbuurt 3 дня назад
Thank you!
@anthonyn.7379
@anthonyn.7379 2 дня назад
I am so so happy to find an unbiased video on Gaza's history, especially for the more recent history. You did your research, and you pointed out the parts that were your personal opinions. This is why I'm subscribed to you.
@eudora3205
@eudora3205 3 дня назад
YES!!!.Thank you Matt...you had my respect as an excellent youTube presenter...you have now earn my respects as a Human being❤❤...well done..thank you for a very balance presentation on this very contentious topic!!. You have proven that you can present controversial issues in an unbias manner
@hedgingwell7718
@hedgingwell7718 3 дня назад
PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THIS!
@georgesabikhalil186
@georgesabikhalil186 3 дня назад
Great video!!
@damouze
@damouze День назад
Thank you for creating this video. It is very informative.
@60th60th
@60th60th 3 дня назад
Excellent! Informative and well-balanced. Thank you. I pretty much agree with your final thoughts
@Elizabeth77755
@Elizabeth77755 2 дня назад
Very well done. Fair and balanced. Thank you!
@LuisSoberon
@LuisSoberon День назад
Thank you, thank you, thank you for making this video.
@Etrehumain123
@Etrehumain123 3 дня назад
Thank you so much, I hope your voice can spread
@fallendaemon
@fallendaemon День назад
Sir, I object to you calling the Nabateans Arabs, they were not. They were descendents of Achaemenids that were abandoned when the Seleucid Empire collapsed. There was no "arab empire", there was the Sasanian Empire that fell to the Rashidun Caliphate, but the Caliphate were not Arabs. Arabs as a group did not emerge until the end of the Ottoman Empire. The Arabs were a group that formed primarily at the urging of Hussein bin Ali al-Hashimi who led what he called the great Arab revolt. Prior to this 'Arab' was a Greek exonym for the people of the Arabian peninsula, which also happened to be a Greek exonym. Arabs as a group did not exist until the Great Arab Revolt in 1916. And they're only called Arabs due to the hellenization of the region convincing the hellenized people that lived there two thousand years later that the ancient name for their peninsula was Arabia, which it was not.
@AdhamMagdy
@AdhamMagdy День назад
Now there is a big question.. how come the people who've always been there in palestine (the mixed bag) can't be called native, and the people who came from europe in 1948 (another mixed bag) are supposed to be the natives with all right to the land according to the british and the americans?..
@MeepBeepBeep
@MeepBeepBeep День назад
The ppl who have always been there are no longer there/no longer exist/ were not established there long enough to be considered natives. No one who lives there now is REALLY native. Their ancestry can be connected really far back in history, but no one who was there first stayed there for long enough to be native. And also, the British and other ignorant westerners were a huge cause of a lot of the current problems now, so why are you believing everything they are saying and taking them seriously?
@camquest6108
@camquest6108 День назад
Maybe because we’re (Americans) aren’t calling them natives? Idk where you heard that from 😂. Point is, most Israeli Jews are Mizrachi (native Jews/ descendants of the Cannanites) so if anything they could be deemed “native” I guess. Most didn’t come from Europe. Also I think when you fight your opponent and win the spoils of war go to the victors (as we’ve seen happens throughout the humanity). They won, they rule it. Just like when the Muslims empires colonized it in the past.
@user-yy2mu9qm7g
@user-yy2mu9qm7g 2 дня назад
This should be another series of yours, Matt. "Who controlled [such-and-such a city] the longest?"
@stellamaxwell777
@stellamaxwell777 День назад
Love this video. Thank you, Matt ❤
@ErixSamson
@ErixSamson 3 дня назад
this is obviously very interesting
@robinei.moraes
@robinei.moraes 3 дня назад
Captured by "Muhammad Ali" LOL He definitely fought his way in.
@Ilenapieta
@Ilenapieta 3 дня назад
Matt, your video is both informational and hopeful. Thank you for treating the subject with the respect it deserves. Never again for anyone, anywhere.
@methylmike
@methylmike 2 дня назад
Timely video Good looks, matt, and thank you
@XercinVex
@XercinVex 3 дня назад
4:39 “later I’ll be discussing things that are difficult and polarizing” right after he talks about whether or not the Exodus is meant to be taken literally or as literary fiction. 😅 oh boy this is going to get extra fun
@roboparks
@roboparks 3 дня назад
The Exodus has to be explained in Theological Terms . Which the narrator is not a Theologian.
@breensprout
@breensprout 2 дня назад
He has already talked about the historical view of the exodus multiple times on this channel.
@Pilts82
@Pilts82 3 дня назад
Agreed with your thoughts thanks for sharing this history
@chrissscottt
@chrissscottt 2 дня назад
A well balanced summary in my opinion. Thanks.
@Akkesama
@Akkesama 3 дня назад
Thank you for this fantastic review of history. Much appreciated.
@MI-wc6nk
@MI-wc6nk 3 дня назад
30:05 - land was bought from it occupants, not from the brits. the ottoman land management system continued under british control.
@bella-hi4oo
@bella-hi4oo 2 дня назад
That's true, they sold their land that's why Arafat never accused Israel for stealing lands..
@skbanda4573
@skbanda4573 2 дня назад
no, it was bought from the landlords. when the Ottoman empire moved to a more European-style system of "whoever has the money can own the land" (as opposed to the earlier, habitation-based model), suddenly rich people who didn't even live there could own the land in the empire, including Palestine. the actual occupants often owned nothing under this system and therefore frequently suffered when the supremacist zionists came in and evicted Palestinians so they could hire Jewish labor.
@CleHasToSayIt
@CleHasToSayIt 2 дня назад
@@bella-hi4ooso the illegal settlers we have today ?
@99EKjohn
@99EKjohn 2 дня назад
​@@CleHasToSayIt are not illegal settlers. The biggest so-called settlement in Hebron, an area the Arabs genocide the Jews out of in 1929. They have every right to resettle the Jewish quarters.
@bella-hi4oo
@bella-hi4oo 2 дня назад
@@CleHasToSayIt They are illegal settlers of course they are putting their house in a Palestinian government own land..I do believe that PLO and Arab league refers only to the Israeli citizens before 1948-1967..Muslim countries exiled many Mizrahi Jews that's why, they settled in East Jerusalem and Westbank.. Israeli Government removed all Jews in Gaza, then they can or will remove the Settlers in Palestinian territory. The problem is most of the settlers are Arab Jews.
@mjk2323
@mjk2323 3 дня назад
Thanks Matt. A very unbiased and historical look at the current situation.
@luochoa
@luochoa День назад
Thank you for an amazing video!
@LaithAlkhalili
@LaithAlkhalili День назад
Brother, I am a Muslim, but I respect your effort to remain unbiased as much as possible.
@Emelefpi
@Emelefpi 3 дня назад
Wonderfully informative video - thank you. If you ever decide to update this, may I suggest showing the appropriate boundaries of the various rulers of the areas shown?
@ahmednibra89
@ahmednibra89 3 дня назад
So … the Egyptians were there first and they also named it? Give it back?
@wordart_guian
@wordart_guian 3 дня назад
It would make the most sense, but they really do not seem to want it anymore.
@Jeremyisthings
@Jeremyisthings 3 дня назад
Israel offered it and they said no
@Domebuddy
@Domebuddy День назад
Egypt doesnt want it lol
@raymondhartmeijer9300
@raymondhartmeijer9300 11 часов назад
What is needed is a Palestine-Israel Federate republic, as groups need to recognize they can't possibly own all this land for themselves. A one-state solution with autonomous regions that each have fargoing autonomous freedoms of culture and law
@traceyholt8223
@traceyholt8223 21 час назад
Thankyou for a very unbiased historical view of the area. How fascinating!
@Firefly763
@Firefly763 14 часов назад
Many things are not correct in the video. Read the comment above your comment for example.
@abotariq257
@abotariq257 3 дня назад
Herodotus called this area Palestine before romans
@jasperchance3382
@jasperchance3382 3 дня назад
this is dubious. The Philistines were there and the reference is to the people, while the Romans referred to the geographical area.
@SuperMovieLvr933
@SuperMovieLvr933 3 дня назад
Amazing video. What an incredible channel.
@adcs88
@adcs88 День назад
If Hamas really wants the “complete destruction of Israel”, why does its latest charter (2017) state “Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus”? This 1967-bordered Palestinian state would leave the other 80% for Israel in a 2 state solution.
@RianHagebeuk
@RianHagebeuk 2 дня назад
I can only say thank you for making the video the way that you did.
@aj.a1845
@aj.a1845 3 дня назад
Well done Matt. Less controversial discussion on Gaza of late. You kept it simple without offending either side of the conflict.
@VesnaVK
@VesnaVK 3 дня назад
Except for the parts where he said "war broke out" instead of "Israel was attacked."
@aj.a1845
@aj.a1845 3 дня назад
@@VesnaVK go back and have a better listen Sweetheart.
@phlezktravels
@phlezktravels 3 дня назад
❤️🇵🇸🍉
@phlezktravels
@phlezktravels 3 дня назад
​Correct. Israel is the one that started this in 1948
@VesnaVK
@VesnaVK 3 дня назад
@@aj.a1845 please be specific.
@keschneider
@keschneider 3 дня назад
Very well done. Sensitive, fair and well researched.
@Iqballotelli
@Iqballotelli День назад
As expected from good Samaritan Alan Baker. Clear, Non biased, scientific, and always promoting peace. Thank you. You're the best
@StavSaad
@StavSaad 3 дня назад
Good overview, though you ommit some details regarding the aftermath of the six day war. Israel offered Gaza back to Egypt for the peace treaty, yet Egypt refused, and Jordan have renounced it's claim it the west bank, leaving the territory as claimed by no one, yet occupied.
@scipioafricanus5871
@scipioafricanus5871 3 дня назад
You mean claimed by no state entity, but Palestinian Authority surely claims at least East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza.
@almami1599
@almami1599 2 дня назад
When Egypt and Jordan refused to take Gaza and the west bank they should’ve been left to be ruled by the people living in them, instead Israel put them under military occupation fearing that the Palestinian refugees who had fled in 1947 would return to them and it sponsored its people’s building settlements in that land to make sure it would never be possible for a Palestinian state to exist in future.
@asawanted
@asawanted 3 дня назад
Can you make a video on history of Americas starting from crossing of the land bridge to moments before colonization?
@lIIllIlIII
@lIIllIlIII 3 дня назад
Would be difficult to make an accurate timeline with the Americas
@wilcowen
@wilcowen 3 дня назад
That would be awesome but unfortunately a lot of dates would only be approximate with the exception of the Maya and last century before Columbus
@JeffinBville
@JeffinBville 3 дня назад
The "crossing of the land bridge" WAS a colonization.
@dorderre
@dorderre 3 дня назад
@@JeffinBville Colonization of uninhabited land, yea. Or is it your opinion that there were humans (or otherwise intelligent beings) living in the Americas even before the first humans arrived?
@krl970
@krl970 3 дня назад
Read Origin by Jennifer Raff. You will learn that there was no original people, just wafts of various peoples over time. It is based on DNA and she correlates with folklore.
@drelowe7
@drelowe7 3 дня назад
This is extremely useful
3 дня назад
But Canaanites includes Israelites, Judeans, Edomites, Moabites, Ammonites, Phoenicians and maybe more. Also near the Canaanites there are the Ugaritics and Arameans and Amorites and other Northwest Semites. Anyway I'm gonna continues watching
@bella-hi4oo
@bella-hi4oo 2 дня назад
Maybe the creator chooses the largest population or the current ruler..
@bella-hi4oo
@bella-hi4oo 2 дня назад
Canaan was a huge land..
@natybar-yosef9931
@natybar-yosef9931 День назад
The name israel dont mean a clan The name was an agreement between tribes in cnaahan to form a kingdom The name of the kingdom was israel
@bible-and-criticism
@bible-and-criticism 3 дня назад
"His Majesty's Government have thus been faced with an irreconcilable conflict of principles. There are in Palestine about 1,200,000 Arabs and 600,000 Jews. For the Jews the essential point of principle is the creation of a sovereign Jewish State. For the Arabs, the essential point of principle is to resist to the last the establishment of Jewish sovereignty in any part of Palestine." Ernest Bevin, British Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Speech in the House of Commons (18 February 1947)
@jasperchance3382
@jasperchance3382 3 дня назад
yep, that is what the conflict is all about. Guess who is the intollerant side?
@mauricehalfhide3982
@mauricehalfhide3982 2 дня назад
And any people anywhere would have felt the same. Especially since they were promised control of the area after the fall of the Ottomans.
@ubblegubble
@ubblegubble 2 дня назад
​@@mauricehalfhide3982were they? Heijazy Arabs collaborated with Britain and sons of Hussein Abdullah and Feisal got Jordan and Iraq. They would like to have all the land they might try to overthrow turks all on there own but one who participate in campaign gets a part of game. Why is it not fair?
@npgibson69
@npgibson69 23 часа назад
@@jasperchance3382there were a lot more than two sides from 1920-50. There were plenty of Arabs willing to accept Jews, plenty of Jews willing to compromise on the Balfour Declaration. Unfortunately, extremists used violence to consolidate control. Still going on today.
@itaiperez
@itaiperez День назад
Great video as always. Thank you.
@monicacruz-guel3469
@monicacruz-guel3469 День назад
LOVE this chart/video. The Middle East history and politics is so complex ...it's easier to understand it when it's laid out this way in a timeline with explanations. I also love how you incorporate the biblical and archeological sides to the inhabitants of the areas. ❤
@navetal
@navetal 3 дня назад
32:06 "Gaza was left in control of Egypt and the West Bank was left in control of Jordan." I'm pretty sure it was Egypt and Jordan who were in control of those territories and not the other way around...
@phlezktravels
@phlezktravels 3 дня назад
✌️
@kami6401
@kami6401 3 дня назад
left in control of meaning left in the control of
@JeffinBville
@JeffinBville 3 дня назад
Grammatically, it's correct.
@yomama5656
@yomama5656 3 дня назад
The video is correct
@sarysa
@sarysa 3 дня назад
As a peacenik I'm happy to see a video like this. What that region needs most is an outpouring of empathy and understanding, and I think a history lesson can help with that.
@Gen.berseker25
@Gen.berseker25 2 дня назад
Very nice video that explains all the Empires and Cultures that passed by Gaza!
@neilhawes518
@neilhawes518 День назад
Hamas demolished ancient ruins? OMFG!
@cat_city2009
@cat_city2009 День назад
It's regrettable, but they didn't have much of a choice. The Gaza Strip is very densely populated. You have to put new housing somewhere.
@ErixSamson
@ErixSamson 3 дня назад
Samson died in Gaza?
@etgarmoyal
@etgarmoyal 2 дня назад
yea, he died killing plishtim (Hebrew pronunciation) and the romans later names Israel Palestine to discourage jews (by naming the land after their biblical enemies)
@ezesolomon3996
@ezesolomon3996 2 дня назад
Sampson was a myth after Hercules
@beauthestdane
@beauthestdane 3 дня назад
I lived in Israel as a Jew for 6 years as a child in the 70s. Even back then, you could see how most Arabs were treated as second class citizens, basically they were to a large degree, the cheap manual laborers used all over Israel. I fully support the right of Israel to exist as a nation, but equally, I support the right of the Palestinians to have a nation. Until such time as the Israeli government moves back away from what seems to be a general right wing direction the world is taking, I don't see any chance of this happening. I am very much against the illegal settlements in the west bank as well. The biggest issues will always be Jerusalem, neither side is willing to make concessions with regard to that city.
@myspleenisbursting4825
@myspleenisbursting4825 3 дня назад
I agree with you, 💯 Zionism is good but the way the Israeli government is trying to make it happen is not.
@jasperchance3382
@jasperchance3382 3 дня назад
Nobody, it seems, sees how non Arabs are treated as second class citizens in most Arab countries, but hey, that's not something that Israel enemies would see, even if it were pointed out to them.
@jmiquelmb
@jmiquelmb 3 дня назад
"I fully support the right of Israel to exist as a nation" Well you seem to be somehow more reasonable than most people in Israel so think again about whether Israel deserves to exist as a country or be returned to their original inhabitants previous to colonization
@jasperchance3382
@jasperchance3382 3 дня назад
@@jmiquelmb It's a long series of colonizations, so you can have no clear picture of who is original to the land (have you watched the video?) but Jews belong there, too and Israel is as legit as Jordan, Lebanon or Pakistan, so it's right to exist is pretty damn obvious.
@jmiquelmb
@jmiquelmb 3 дня назад
@@jasperchance3382 That's like saying the appartheid was valid because the Bantu people displaced the Khoisan centuries before the Afrikaners came to the region. Israel doesn't have a right to exist. A single state solution might be possible but that state can't be called Israel, this name is inherently linked with an ethnostate supremacist idology.
@D3ND
@D3ND 15 часов назад
Matt, this video, and especially your conclusion at the end sits really nicely with me. Thank you for your amazing video.
@knightrider585
@knightrider585 2 дня назад
You left out that Hamas won election as government in 2006 which is why they took control of Gaza in 2007. Weirdly Fatah stayed in control of the West Bank despite losing that election.
@etgarmoyal
@etgarmoyal 2 дня назад
not entirely accurate, the elections were only in Gaza they weren't connected to Fatah they are separated in that regard however couple of years ago it was encouraged to make elections in the West Bank but polls showed hamas winning there too so the elections were stopped
@knightrider585
@knightrider585 2 дня назад
@@etgarmoyal No the 2006 elections were for the Palestinian Legislative Council which covers both Gaza and the West Bank. Hamas won that election. There have been no further elections since then because Fatah rejected the results and seized control of the West Bank and have no interest in losing another vote.
3 дня назад
When Palestinian nationalism started in the Ottoman period, what area did it include? Since there was no place called Palestine with definitive boundaries and even the Arab dialects there didn't have clear boundaries
@Chaneloweenz
@Chaneloweenz 3 дня назад
This is what confused me about this video. Theres no record of anyone calling themselves a "Palestinian" before the British Occupation and the land itself was only ever referred to as "Palestine" by western and central Europeans, not any Arabs. As for the Nationalism, theres really no record of that either other than maybe just the Arabs of the land maybe expressing a wanting for independence, but no action and certainly no branding with the name "Palestine" or "Palestinian"...
@yomama5656
@yomama5656 3 дня назад
You have to understand all the nations of the Middle East are man made and not by nationalism/ethics. Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia. European decided the arbitrary borders. What happens if they could form their own nations? Well maybe a pan-Arabic country, or syria eats up Lebanon, or Saudi Arabia eats all of the peninsula. But I know for sure that if there was no Jewish independence then the area would’ve been carved up in between Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria. Since the Palestinian have no national identity. All they are Arab colonial by product.
@Fai9albinKhalid3
@Fai9albinKhalid3 3 дня назад
Well, the idea of boundaries is a new thing to this area, but it was known for people that this land was called Palestine (the land of Philists), nationalism wasn't necessary until the end of ottomans very long rule, and the beginning of colonialism and the drawing of boundaries, from then Arab nationalism including the Palestinian (by Arab I mean Arabic speaking nations) got stronger and stronger especially with the slow moves played by Z1onists some years before the ottomans fall and the British rule, it was a game of politics between strong Jewish voices in Europe snd the colonizers, and some Palestinian reporters were aware of that (with recorded evidence) So that's my research's conclusion on Palestinian nationalism as it's known today, there may be some deeper roots but I haven't got to them yet
3 дня назад
@@Fai9albinKhalid3 But what was included in Palestine?
@obansrinathan
@obansrinathan 3 дня назад
Historically the region between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean is Palestine.
@etgarmoyal
@etgarmoyal 2 дня назад
few things should be noted 1. the zionists agreed to the UN plan while the Palestinians did not 2. the sinai peninsula was given to Egypt as a peace offering from Israel 3. in 93 the Oslo accords was a 3 steps plan - the third step was giving complete control to the Palestinians. the plan stopped at the 2nd step both because the Israeli prime minister was killed, and because of Yasser arrant unwillingness to proceed (during the Oslo accords Israeli buses were exploding daly by terrorists making the entire thing close to impossible) 4. intifada is called uprising but it basically took form in killing Israeli citizens ad civilian facilities not military
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