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Timothy Garton Ash on how Ukraine is changing Europe 

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Is democracy in decline today? What is “Post-Wall” Europe, born after the fall of the Berlin Wall, and why is it now gone? How is Ukraine’s resistance to the Russian invasion changing Europe?
UkraineWorld invites Timothy Garton Ash, a British historian, Professor of European Studies at the University of Oxford, Isaiah Berlin Professorial Fellow at St Antony's College, Oxford, and Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. His latest book is "Homelands: A Personal History of Europe".
This episode is a recording of Professor Garton Ash’s meeting with the Ukrainian public in Kyiv, at the UkraineWorld Club and PEN Ukraine, on May 15th, 2024. It is part of UkraineWorld’s series Thinking in Dark Times.
Host: Volodymyr Yermolenko, Ukrainian philosopher, chief editor of UkraineWorld and president of PEN Ukraine
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Check two other conversations with Professor Garton Ash:
Timothy Garton Ash on Ukraine’s role in Europe
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Комментарии : 26   
@cogito125
@cogito125 3 месяца назад
the conversation is gorgeous ❤ thank you both
@lanakalina6481
@lanakalina6481 3 месяца назад
WOW! Such a powerful messages! We need more people to listen to it, please like and share!
@alanjones5639
@alanjones5639 3 месяца назад
This discussion really helped some of my understandings. The will to fight for freedoms is not an unfolding process, nor a natural one. Poland and Ukraine being reborn from being dead, from being colonized by empires. Pessimism of the intellect and optimism of the will. I'm thinking that the resistance to democratic forms by authoritarian populists can only be overcome by significant checks on the absurd monopolization of power by the absurdly rich, and by somehow teaching young authoritarians to question their indoctrination by making them part of collective, optimistic efforts.
@karelkieslich6772
@karelkieslich6772 3 месяца назад
I work with young people and anecdotically I find your last point to be the case. The question is how to bring that about? The age of AI, automatisation, atomisation, “social” media (in fact they should be called lonely media), rising inequality etc go directly against being part of a forward-looking optimistic community decision-making collective…
@alanjones5639
@alanjones5639 3 месяца назад
@@karelkieslich6772 I agree. Only a few parents care, and their efforts are often for naught. The focus of public schools would need changing (something like Aldous Huxley's Pala). Because most of those in power don't want reflective, critical thinkers, if it ever happens, it's unlikely to be soon.
@frankshifreen
@frankshifreen 3 месяца назад
Great talk- great ideas
@stevenovetsky3274
@stevenovetsky3274 3 месяца назад
💙💛
@glennmitchell9107
@glennmitchell9107 3 месяца назад
Timothy Garton Ash says, "Ukraine must win," but doesn't say Russia must lose. Who is going to defeat Russia? Europe?
@walterjohnson6357
@walterjohnson6357 3 месяца назад
Such an intelligent discussion and a delight to listen to. We want to hear truth and freedom must be fought for against those that want to control the narrative. Will Trump rip apart the curtain of lies that governments hide behind. Maybe not, maybe corruption wins again. He must protect his family.
@junanougues
@junanougues 3 месяца назад
Trump is the LIE personified! Mafia politics over the rule of law and human progress in the form of expanding democracy for everybody. Trump does not dig facts or voting or equality under the law. Because he is a gangster. What are you talking about?
@nayon9379
@nayon9379 Месяц назад
🇨🇿 2) THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "the Salvation of the last day that Christ brought in the second and last incarnation of His new and holy name" (The standard by which man is judged is based on his behavior is a righteous person, and one whose behavior is abominable is wicked. The standard by which God judges man is based on whether one's essence obeys Him; one who obeys God is a righteous person, and one who does not obey God is an enemy and a bad person, regardless of whether this person's behavior is goodor bad, and regardless of whether this person's speech is right or wrong. People mistakenly believe that God decides a person's outcome according to his behavior or speech, and thus many people seek to use this to gain temporary favor through deception. The people who will later be saved through rest will all endure the day of suffering and also witness for God; they are people who have completed their duty and seek to obey God. Only those who want to use the opportunity to do service to avoid the practice of truth will not be able to stay. No one can avoid retribution for their wickedness, and no one can cover up their bad behavior and thereby avoid the agony of destruction. If people are loyal to God when they see graces but lose their loyalty when they do not see graces and in the end are unable to bear witness to God and still cannot do their duty as they should, the these people onceserved God faithfully will still be destroyed. After humanity enters the right path, people will have a normal human life. They will lose their disobedience and resistance. They will be able to fully obey God. This is the life of God and man and the life of the kingdom, and this is the life of rest.) Almighty God said The standard by which MAN JUDGES man is based on his BEHAVIOR; one whose behavior is GOOD is a RIGHTEOUS MAN, and one whose behavior is vile--vile is EVIL. The STANDARD by which GOD JUDGES man is based on whether one's NATURE obeys Him; one who OBEYS God is a RIGHTEOUS PERSON, and one who DOES NOT OBEY God is an ENEMY and a BAD PERSON, REGARDLESS of whether this person's behavior is GOOD orBAD, and NO MATTER whether the SPEAK of this one is RIGHT or WRONG. There are some people who want to USE GOOD DEEDS to get GOOD FUTURE RESULTS, and some people want to use good words to GET A GOOD DESTINATION. 🙏 People mistakenly believe that God decides a person's outcome according to his behavior or speech, and thus many people seek to use this to gain temporary favor through deception. The PEOPLE who will be saved later THROUGH the rest will all have endured the day of SUFFERING and are also witnesses for God; they are the people who have FINISHED their DUTY and WANTED to OBEY GOD. 🙏🌷 Only those who want to use the opportunity to do service to avoid the practice of truth will not be able to stay. God has appropriate standards for settling the consequences of all people; He doesn't just make these decisions based on a person's words and behavior, He also doesn't make them based on their behavior over a period of time. He will not be completely lenient with all bad behavior because of one's past service to God, nor will He forgive one in death because of one-time service to God. NO ONE CAN AVOID VENGEANCE for their EVIL, and NO ONE CAN COVER THEIR EVIL BEHAVIOR and thereby avoid the SUFFERING OF DESTRUCTION. ☀️ If anyone can ACTUALLY DO their OWN DUTIES, then it means that they are eternally FAITHFUL to GOD and DO NOT SEEK REWARDS, REGARDLESS of whether they RECEIVE BLESSINGS or SUFFER MISFORTUNE. If people are loyal to God when they see graces but lose their loyalty when they do not see graces and in the end are unable to bear witness to God and still fail to do their duty as they should, the people this onceserved God faithfully will still be destroyed. ☀️ In other words, wicked people cannot be saved into eternity, nor can they enter into rest; ONLY the RIGHTEOUS are the LORDS of REST. After humanity enters the right path, people will have a normal human life. ALL of them will DO their OWN corresponding DUTIES and become completely FAITHFUL to GOD. They will COMPLETELY LET GO of their DISOBEDIENCE and their evil DISPOSITION, and they will live for God and because of God. They will lose their disobedience and resistance. They CAN COMPLETELY OBEY GOD. This is the life of God and man and the life of the kingdom, and this is the life of rest.🙏 From "The WORD, Vol. I. The Manifestation and Work of God. God and Man Enter into Rest Together Fulfillment of (John 1:1) and (Ezekiel 2:9-10), (Rev. 19:9,13) 📩 All who have "ears to listen" are led to what the Spirit of God is saying in His lowered and built kingdom/Church engraved with His new name, His totality, the ownership of this disposition, "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD "💐 fulfillment from what was said He to Peter 2,000 years ago recorded in (Matthew 16:18-19). His Coming is the fulfillment of all that was prophesied in the great book of Revelation, so the last "Salvation" He brought the whole truth, the way for eternal life. So the "victorious" ones who will receive them are the wise "virgins" because as recorded in the prophecy of His return no one knows it except the one who will receive it! So "come" and come to His kingdom/church standing in the holy place in the air/RU-vid! This is also a fulfillment from the book of (Isaiah 2:2/9:6) which He first fulfilled in His first incarnation. 📥 "They say with a loud voice, "Salvation comes from the Lamb, and from our God who sits on the Throne!" (Rev. 7:10). ... and (Isaiah 2: 2 / 9:6) "On the Last Day, the mountain on which Jehovah's temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All nations will flock there. " . "For a baby boy is born to us. The rule will be given to him; and he shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." ☀️
@mortenjohansen4120
@mortenjohansen4120 3 месяца назад
The audio needs bass cut filtering
@Positive_Atrributes
@Positive_Atrributes 3 месяца назад
BRILLIANT! // \\ BHX 🇬🇧🏥⚒️⚔️🔐🎯⛓️🚒🏹⛑️🔔🏰
@glennmitchell9107
@glennmitchell9107 3 месяца назад
Are Europeans concerned that a triumphant Ukraine will become the new Russia? Are Europeans afraid of Ukraine?
@MiriShuli
@MiriShuli 2 месяца назад
No. 🇺🇦 feeds Europe and much of Africa. They do not fear Ukraine, they need Ukraine.
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 3 месяца назад
I wouldn't blame liberalism for inequality. Neoliberalism, maybe. Liberal democracy, no. Otherwise, a great discussion.
@alko_xo
@alko_xo 3 месяца назад
There are some headlines examples for future videos: 1. "Ukraine: A Highly Developed Nation with Boundless Human Potential" 2. "How Ukraine Became the Beacon of Hope for All of Europe" 3. "Ukraine: A Triumph of Success and Integrity" 4. "Ukraine: Europe's Leader in Innovation and Progress" 5. "Why Ukraine is the Role Model Europe Needs" 6. "Ukraine's Vast Human Potential: An Inspiration to the World" 7. "Ukraine: A Shining Example of Progress and Good Governance" 8. "The Secrets Behind Ukraine's Success: High Standards and Low Corruption" 9. "Ukraine: The Epitome of Effective Leadership and Development" 10. "Ukraine: A Nation with Extraordinary Human Capital" 11. "Why Europe Should Emulate Ukraine's Achievements" 12. "Ukraine's Victory Over Corruption: A Tale of Economic Growth" 13. "Ukraine: Setting the Standards for a Developed Nation" 14. "Ukraine: An Inspiring Example for the Entire World" 15. "Ukraine's Path to Glory: Development, Potential, and Integrity"
@glennmitchell9107
@glennmitchell9107 3 месяца назад
What decline of power are they talking about? In absolute terms almost every nation is more powerful now than they were at any point in the past. Their weapons are more powerful, their people are healthier and better educated, their industries are more advanced. Only some of the kleptocratic socialist states have slipped backward or got stuck in neutral.
@hablemosdepolitica-i2q
@hablemosdepolitica-i2q 3 месяца назад
Wonderful. Thanks.
@nayon9379
@nayon9379 Месяц назад
🇨🇿 2) THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "the Salvation of the last day that Christ brought in the second and last incarnation of His new and holy name" (The standard by which man is judged is based on his behavior is a righteous person, and one whose behavior is abominable is wicked. The standard by which God judges man is based on whether one's essence obeys Him; one who obeys God is a righteous person, and one who does not obey God is an enemy and a bad person, regardless of whether this person's behavior is goodor bad, and regardless of whether this person's speech is right or wrong. People mistakenly believe that God decides a person's outcome according to his behavior or speech, and thus many people seek to use this to gain temporary favor through deception. The people who will later be saved through rest will all endure the day of suffering and also witness for God; they are people who have completed their duty and seek to obey God. Only those who want to use the opportunity to do service to avoid the practice of truth will not be able to stay. No one can avoid retribution for their wickedness, and no one can cover up their bad behavior and thereby avoid the agony of destruction. If people are loyal to God when they see graces but lose their loyalty when they do not see graces and in the end are unable to bear witness to God and still cannot do their duty as they should, the these people onceserved God faithfully will still be destroyed. After humanity enters the right path, people will have a normal human life. They will lose their disobedience and resistance. They will be able to fully obey God. This is the life of God and man and the life of the kingdom, and this is the life of rest.) Almighty God said The standard by which MAN JUDGES man is based on his BEHAVIOR; one whose behavior is GOOD is a RIGHTEOUS MAN, and one whose behavior is vile--vile is EVIL. The STANDARD by which GOD JUDGES man is based on whether one's NATURE obeys Him; one who OBEYS God is a RIGHTEOUS PERSON, and one who DOES NOT OBEY God is an ENEMY and a BAD PERSON, REGARDLESS of whether this person's behavior is GOOD orBAD, and NO MATTER whether the SPEAK of this one is RIGHT or WRONG. There are some people who want to USE GOOD DEEDS to get GOOD FUTURE RESULTS, and some people want to use good words to GET A GOOD DESTINATION. 🙏 People mistakenly believe that God decides a person's outcome according to his behavior or speech, and thus many people seek to use this to gain temporary favor through deception. The PEOPLE who will be saved later THROUGH the rest will all have endured the day of SUFFERING and are also witnesses for God; they are the people who have FINISHED their DUTY and WANTED to OBEY GOD. 🙏🌷 Only those who want to use the opportunity to do service to avoid the practice of truth will not be able to stay. God has appropriate standards for settling the consequences of all people; He doesn't just make these decisions based on a person's words and behavior, He also doesn't make them based on their behavior over a period of time. He will not be completely lenient with all bad behavior because of one's past service to God, nor will He forgive one in death because of one-time service to God. NO ONE CAN AVOID VENGEANCE for their EVIL, and NO ONE CAN COVER THEIR EVIL BEHAVIOR and thereby avoid the SUFFERING OF DESTRUCTION. ☀️ If anyone can ACTUALLY DO their OWN DUTIES, then it means that they are eternally FAITHFUL to GOD and DO NOT SEEK REWARDS, REGARDLESS of whether they RECEIVE BLESSINGS or SUFFER MISFORTUNE. If people are loyal to God when they see graces but lose their loyalty when they do not see graces and in the end are unable to bear witness to God and still fail to do their duty as they should, the people this onceserved God faithfully will still be destroyed. ☀️ In other words, wicked people cannot be saved into eternity, nor can they enter into rest; ONLY the RIGHTEOUS are the LORDS of REST. After humanity enters the right path, people will have a normal human life. ALL of them will DO their OWN corresponding DUTIES and become completely FAITHFUL to GOD. They will COMPLETELY LET GO of their DISOBEDIENCE and their evil DISPOSITION, and they will live for God and because of God. They will lose their disobedience and resistance. They CAN COMPLETELY OBEY GOD. This is the life of God and man and the life of the kingdom, and this is the life of rest.🙏 From "The WORD, Vol. I. The Manifestation and Work of God. God and Man Enter into Rest Together Fulfillment of (John 1:1) and (Ezekiel 2:9-10), (Rev. 19:9,13) 📩 All who have "ears to listen" are led to what the Spirit of God is saying in His lowered and built kingdom/Church engraved with His new name, His totality, the ownership of this disposition, "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD "💐 fulfillment from what was said He to Peter 2,000 years ago recorded in (Matthew 16:18-19). His Coming is the fulfillment of all that was prophesied in the great book of Revelation, so the last "Salvation" He brought the whole truth, the way for eternal life. So the "victorious" ones who will receive them are the wise "virgins" because as recorded in the prophecy of His return no one knows it except the one who will receive it! So "come" and come to His kingdom/church standing in the holy place in the air/RU-vid! This is also a fulfillment from the book of (Isaiah 2:2/9:6) which He first fulfilled in His first incarnation. 📥 "They say with a loud voice, "Salvation comes from the Lamb, and from our God who sits on the Throne!" (Rev. 7:10). ... and (Isaiah 2: 2 / 9:6) "On the Last Day, the mountain on which Jehovah's temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All nations will flock there. " . "For a baby boy is born to us. The rule will be given to him; and he shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." ☀️
@CatalystD9
@CatalystD9 3 месяца назад
Brilliant 🙏💙💛🔥
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