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Tinsmithing Demonstration: Reproducing a US Civil War Tin Cup 

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A demonstration, given online as a presentation to the Early American Industries Association annual meeting, May 20-22, 2021, showing how I make a reproduction US Civil War tin cup, based on one in the collection of the American Civil War Museum in Richmond, Virginia. In the video, I discuss details about the cup, and show the various steps I take, using antique tinsmith's tools, to reproduce it. You can check out the EAIA's website at: eaiainfo.org/
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@docokd7oco443
@docokd7oco443 11 месяцев назад
I asked a flintknapper one time how long it took him to make a small birdpoint. His response was, "... 30 years and ten minutes..."😊
@throngcleaver
@throngcleaver 29 дней назад
Great work, Carl! 👍
@myderek1950
@myderek1950 4 месяца назад
Thank you for showing so much, it's been very interesting
@cwyvern4861
@cwyvern4861 6 месяцев назад
My great grandfather was a tinsmith when he was alive, I wish I could have met the guy, he also served in WW2 and survived until one year before I was born, heck I have some of his tools and they have served me well, a lot better than tools made nowadays.
@forgottencrafts9307
@forgottencrafts9307 2 года назад
My wife and I just spent the day yesterday taking a class with Chris Hagemann and made a cup. What a great time!
@chriswood4676
@chriswood4676 10 месяцев назад
Awesome video! I found one of those tipping machines, just like yours in a scrap pile last week..glad i saved it. Going to clean it up and put it to use..Thanks again!!
@nehemiahmathews8683
@nehemiahmathews8683 Год назад
From you making that one cup I learned so much about the Tim smithing tools I inherited thank you I applaud you for that
@stevenconyon4685
@stevenconyon4685 3 месяца назад
Great video,very informative
@25marcb
@25marcb 3 года назад
Love the video. I took an introductory tinsmithing class at Old Sturbridge Village this spring. It was a 2 day class of about 8 hours a day making a server, a cup, a sconce, and a pail. I learned to dread burring the circles for the cup and pail bottom along with making sure I had plenty of bandages. I think I must have cut out at least a dozen circles trying to get a somewhat even burr for the bottom of that cup. We also used swages to create the beading for the cup and sconce backing which was very noisy with just 4 people so I can easily understand using the machine to do the beading. The interesting thing is that we used a 50/50 mix of tallow and pine rosin that was heated on a candle warmer to make it a liquid. The instructor said they had found records of a CT tinsmith who was buying a lot of tallow but his records didn't show he was selling candles or anything made from the tallow. They eventually figured out the smith was mixing the rosin and tallow to make a flux that was liquid when kept warm. I thought it was an interesting bit of history detective work.
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 3 года назад
Many thanks for your comments. Glad you enjoyed the tinsmithing workshop at Old Sturbridge Village. I assume you took it from Richard Eckert?
@roberthorner6248
@roberthorner6248 Год назад
Very interesting, Karl. I always wondered exactly how you do your tinsmithing. I've followed you on Facebook for years but never really understood what you do. I never thought to look for you on RU-vid so I'm just now finding this video you made. You have people from all over the world watching this. Pretty cool!
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks Год назад
Thanks, Robert!
@dougfurman3265
@dougfurman3265 3 года назад
Awesome video. Tinsmithing needs more porple like you that are willing to share there knowledge. I hope to see more in the future. Thank you.
@christined.3728
@christined.3728 Год назад
Fascinating. Thanks for a great video!
@sheetmetalwork
@sheetmetalwork 2 года назад
I enjoyed the video and I can certainly appreciate the skills required to make it seem easy. Well done!
@baiez2008
@baiez2008 3 года назад
Great video. Loved every minute.
@joseluis5712
@joseluis5712 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, great work!! Greatings from a blacksmith/coppersmith from Portugal.
@charlieharrington1144
@charlieharrington1144 2 года назад
Thanks for the demonstration! 👍
@dattaprasadjoshi6191
@dattaprasadjoshi6191 2 года назад
Very useful. Please upload more.
@jbfreeman3088
@jbfreeman3088 2 года назад
Thank you for the informative video.
@sailorguy9288
@sailorguy9288 Год назад
Wonderful video
@josetonon5726
@josetonon5726 2 года назад
Excelente vídeo. Obrigado por compartihar seus conhecimentos.
@tommiller9743
@tommiller9743 3 года назад
Awesome video! Now let's see a crooked spout coffee pot!!!
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 3 года назад
Thanks for the suggestion, but future videos will focus on introductory things like tools and techniques, rather than the more complicated examples of tinsmithing.
@DanDan3663
@DanDan3663 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this. I wish there were more of these types of videos out there. Would you ever consider sharing the dimensions of the pattern you created? Also could the decorative groove be created using a burring machine if someone isn’t lucky enough to have a turning machine yet? 😉
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 3 года назад
Thanks for your kind comments. It takes a lot of time to make videos like this, which is probably why they're aren't more of them. The final video may only be 35 minutes or so, but it represents many hours of work, both shooting the video segments and the editing. Here's the link to the cup at the American Civil War Museum. The basic dimensions of the cup are included in this listing. acwm.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/1B3CCB1A-8C03-4B46-B85F-818649960060 You could try using a burring machine for the decorative bead, but I can't promise it will look the same.
@jdcfiendfactory5838
@jdcfiendfactory5838 3 года назад
I expected a deep and gravelly voice, like Robert Shaw!
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 3 года назад
I'll work on that, using his monologue in Jaws as a model. LOL
@jdcfiendfactory5838
@jdcfiendfactory5838 3 года назад
@@dakotatinworks LOL
@jessdennis2177
@jessdennis2177 2 года назад
Great video. I'm doing a replication project at Uni atm. It's an oil lamp. I have no machine to do the burr on the bottom of the little pots. Have you any ideas how I could do that process but only with hand tools please? Thanks. 👍🏼
@jacobsmithmyer3405
@jacobsmithmyer3405 2 года назад
Hi! Great video! Where can one obtain the hot-dipped tinplate? I am trying to get into historical reenactment, and I would like to portray an 18th century whitesmith. Thank you!!
@AM-dn4lk
@AM-dn4lk 2 года назад
Wow, that was really nice work. Thank you for sharing. What is the solder flux you used?
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 2 года назад
It's a rosin powder.
@pablod.452
@pablod.452 Год назад
Muy lindo
@reginaldotavares8964
@reginaldotavares8964 2 года назад
Boa tarde, Gostaria de saber mais sobre essa incrivel máquina de dobrar pois tenho uma e ela é muito difícil de achar aqui no Brasil, Já pesquisei mais não acha nada sobre ela. Você teria alguma informação dela?
@sankarerd6134
@sankarerd6134 2 года назад
Make more videos 👍
@jesses9086
@jesses9086 Год назад
Is there a way to burr the cup pieces without the machine? Also do you NEED the rosin during the soldering?
@peter_nortje
@peter_nortje 2 года назад
Great instructional material. I am looking for such a Tinsmithing genny but my search has been in vain. Who could help a pensioner out - from South Africa?
@1stminnsharpshooters341
@1stminnsharpshooters341 3 года назад
great demo pard *LIKED* and *SUBSCRIBED* --LT
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 3 года назад
Thank you, kindly!
@1stminnsharpshooters341
@1stminnsharpshooters341 3 года назад
@@dakotatinworks I'll share your video to a few Midwest Civil War Facebook pages.
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 3 года назад
@@1stminnsharpshooters341 Thanks very much!
@haydenedgar3769
@haydenedgar3769 2 года назад
That cool, Is it possible that you can make tin cans for canning
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
No, sorry. For canning, I'd recommend glass jars.
@susanpauly2897
@susanpauly2897 2 года назад
Hi Karl. Enjoyed the vid! Wondering if you can provide contact info at the ACWM Richmond for obtaining their instruction sheet for making that cup? I went on their website but could see no place where it was listed, or how to go about requesting one. I am the site manager for a historic (late 1870's era) Tin Shop in Murfreesboro, NC and would like to make an authentic one. Thanks and good luck on your future projects.
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 2 года назад
Hi, Susan. Many thanks for your comment. There's no instruction sheet for the cup. I re-created the cup based solely on the photographs and dimensions in the digital archive listing.
@susanpauly2897
@susanpauly2897 2 года назад
Hi Karl. Thanks for the reply on the ACWM. Btw, have you ever used a 'creasing stake? Are you (or anyone out there) aware of any vids showing one in use? Thanks in advance.
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 2 года назад
I use a creasing stake all the time. It's part of the standard set of stakes tinsmiths use. I don't think anyone has a video showing how it's used.
@susanpauly2897
@susanpauly2897 2 года назад
@@dakotatinworks So do you just use a blunt chisel or perhaps a wooden tool, or do you use one of those "hinged hammers", and which do you prefer?
@arthurvarady7258
@arthurvarady7258 2 года назад
They would have had to have some kind of Mass Production of Methods for Tin Smithing or they would never have supplied the country. Nice talent excellent Vid..
@buttsmckenzy1555
@buttsmckenzy1555 Год назад
Wow, this is really cool! I'm very big into metal crafts, been going for 10 years on steel, always wanted to mess about with tin. How on Earth did you get started with this craft, sir?
@robertstone7393
@robertstone7393 Год назад
Karl took a tinsmithing class at Eastfield Village, near Albany, New York.
@ElizabethGreene
@ElizabethGreene 10 месяцев назад
Apologies if I missed this in the video. Is the flux you use for soldering powdered Rosin from pine trees? Thanks!
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
Yes, it is. In some places, it's called colophony.
@lancedavis5246
@lancedavis5246 Год назад
Who is the vender in the U.S. that you mentioned in your video for hot dipped tin plating? I am getting started in tin smithing and I am looking for somewhere to purchase tin sheets.
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
Paul Barnhart of Barnhart Studios. You can contact him via email: paul@barnhart-studios.com
@munchh2007
@munchh2007 11 месяцев назад
Great video, great rolling machines too, i didnt realise they used to solder them, i thought they were riveted and had bent seams. I wonder do you mate the tin plates of the same era and have you thought about doing that video? 😉
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
I'm not sure I understand your question.
@munchh2007
@munchh2007 10 месяцев назад
@@dakotatinworks do you make 1800s tin plates? Sorry fat fingers.
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
I buy my hot-dipped tinplate from Paul Barnhart of Barnhart Studios. It would be difficult to make tinplate. Even in the 17th-19th centuries, tinplate was made in an industrial setting, not by individual tinsmiths.@@munchh2007
@munchh2007
@munchh2007 10 месяцев назад
@@dakotatinworks i think you are misunderstanding me, TIN PLATES that you eat off, civil war era tin plates.
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
Ah, I see. Sorry. I've made tin plates (for eating off) in the past, but given that there's so much of that kind of thing coming from India and China, I don't try to compete with that market. During the Civil War, most tin plates were stamped in factories, and I don't have that kind of stamping equipment in my shop. There are other ways to make plates, of course, but I don't think I'd make a video about it, given how much time it takes to make the video (and the plate).
@nullsnaggle5198
@nullsnaggle5198 2 года назад
Question:whats the cheapest way to weld tin?
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 2 года назад
Tinplate gets soldered, not welded, so the cheapest and really only way to do that is with a soldering iron, min. 100-watt. I use a soldering iron that's designed for stained glass work. Anything under 100 watts and you'll have trouble melting the solder and joining the pieces of tinplate.
@MadebyLaurent
@MadebyLaurent 2 года назад
What gage of sheet did you use for this cup?
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 2 года назад
It's 28-gauge hot-dipped tinplate.
@shawnholton5182
@shawnholton5182 Год назад
Any more videos coming?
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
Yes, but not sure when. They take lots of time to do right.
@MrMakto
@MrMakto 9 месяцев назад
Where would I research to get into this kind of craft? I already blacksmith and would love to add to my skillset.
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 9 месяцев назад
The best way to become a tinsmith is to apprentice with someone who is already a tinsmith. Or at least take some workshops with a working tinsmith. Depending upon where you live, there may be such workshop offerings in your area.
@MrMakto
@MrMakto 9 месяцев назад
thank you for the response, I will try and research what is available in my area.@@dakotatinworks
@jesses9086
@jesses9086 Год назад
So back then would they have pure tin? I can only find aluminum or steel with tin in it i believe
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
No, tinplate has always been a tin coating on steel (or sheet iron, earlier).
@NUMENOREAN91
@NUMENOREAN91 Год назад
What is the ground resin flux made from.
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
It's pine sap.
@joseaureliosegalotto7327
@joseaureliosegalotto7327 2 года назад
Olá , por favor ,gostaria de saber qual matéria é esse que o Sr usa como ácido para o estanho grudar , ele me parece sólido Att
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 2 года назад
It's called rosin -- ground pine sap.
@user-nk8vi7mn5z
@user-nk8vi7mn5z 6 месяцев назад
Dónde. Podría. Conseguir. Una. Dobladora. De. Esa. Medida. Me. Gustaría. Conseguir. Una. Así. Para. AKI. En. Mérida. Yuc. Bonito. Trabajo. Saludos
@user-fl4km9ne8e
@user-fl4km9ne8e Год назад
匠人精神
@baileydonahue7314
@baileydonahue7314 Год назад
Where do you source your tin? Thanks
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
Paul Barnhart of Barnhart Studios. You can contact him via email: paul@barnhart-studios.com
@user-uk4ie8bv2y
@user-uk4ie8bv2y Год назад
Эта зиговка еще царскую россию помнит.Я видел такую в книге по жестяному делу за 1905 год
@allanzkytheadventurer3727
@allanzkytheadventurer3727 Год назад
What is the powder you use ?
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks Год назад
It's pine rosin.
@garrettcuster3318
@garrettcuster3318 9 месяцев назад
Where do you buy your tin
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 9 месяцев назад
Hot-dipped tin is available from Paul Barnhart. See my response elsewhere in this thread for his email address. Electroplate tin is available from Reynold Services in Pittsburgh, PA. You can find them online.
@NUMENOREAN91
@NUMENOREAN91 Год назад
What are you using for flux?
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks Год назад
I discuss the type of flux in the video.
@NUMENOREAN91
@NUMENOREAN91 7 месяцев назад
What guage is the tin?
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 7 месяцев назад
That's mentioned in the video.
@vinvinx6807
@vinvinx6807 Год назад
Whats the name of the powder
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
Rosin flux.
@valentinlishkov9540
@valentinlishkov9540 7 месяцев назад
my files: look in the channel
@HamidHamid-cm5ln
@HamidHamid-cm5ln 2 года назад
Tm
@leehill1713
@leehill1713 Год назад
Who pays you?
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
Pays me for what? Making this video? No one. If you're talking about my tin work, I'm self-employed.
@johnbroadbent9034
@johnbroadbent9034 Год назад
the word soder has an L in it SOLDER NOT SODER TAKE NOTE
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
I understand that that's how it's pronounced in the UK and some other places where British English is common, but that's not how it's pronounced in the United States.
@pcampbell17
@pcampbell17 Год назад
Where can I get the traditional tin sheets. I can’t seem to find any when searching on the internet
@dakotatinworks
@dakotatinworks 10 месяцев назад
Paul Barnhart of Barnhart Studios. Contact him via email: paul@barnhart-studios.com
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