Tiny, Cheap Full Body Tracking for Quest/PCVR: HaritoraX Wireless 

UPDATE: The price reduced to $299! There's also some tracking updates being tested in Japan-only beta.

I love seeing your avatar move in full body

Still too broke for this 🙏🙏

I find so much fascination in watching these videos you make on full body tracking IMUs, even though I don’t have any current plans on getting any. Your videos are just so informative and well versed, haha.

5:59 I feel called out for this

As a fellow full body user I usually always warn people about IMU's not being anywhere near as good as other tracking options but they are still worth it if you are willing to put in a bit more effort while calibrating. For reference I started my full body journey about 2 years ago now and I started with Vive 3.0 trackers and then swapped to Tundra trackers as I started to learn more about dancing. Love the video keep up the great work. And yes even though I have spent way more money then I needed to I will still say it was worth it to me.

The avatar in full body tracking is cool!

My uncle used to have one of these but every time he tried to take it off the cops showed up.

I have these exact trackers and have used them for 3 months now. From my experience, the tracking is very smooth including the ankle rotation. I have to put the sensor close to the top of my feet to make it track easier. Some days, the trackers don't drift much, and some days the trackers drift a lot within a minute, especially the hip tracker for me but it's not a deal breaker because recalibrating is super easy. I never really loose connection with the trackers at all, but only when I sit down leaning forward and my belly is covering the hip tracker xD so no good if you have a dad bod lol! The trackers do shift a lot on my body and I wear certain clothing that doesn't make it move much. Thankfully, I never ran into the software issues you had to deal with about steam vr, I suppose I got lucky. Also not many people know this, but you can recalibrate while lying down straight and it's quite good. Great video!

5:59 I feel very catered to, and I just randomly got pulled in here by the algorithm. Your avatars are so.. fluffy...

Can you have a follow up video to this on Slimetora? (Using Haritora Wireless with SlimeVR software instead) My friend says it's excellent

Surprised you didn't mention that you can use it with SlimeVR as opposed to relying on HaritoraX Configurator

If I remember correctly someone made a tool that lets you actually use these as slimevr trackers, might be something worth testing

Thank you for posting these videos. 😸

Got these a few days ago, so far I am really happy with the tracking, but it seems to have a mood of it's own, some days it works perfectly, on other days you get a lot more drift. But since you can quickly callibrate without leaving VRC it's fine even on a "bad" day

Self built slimevr trackers (build some community designs, not the official one) are still the meta for cheap and good tracking

Awesome info. Thanks. Now I know what to get for vr. Thanks for this video. Keep up the awesome job.

I love seeing more accessible ways to get full body tracking, and I hope software refinements make this experience better. Once you get FBT, then you want your friends to get to enjoy it, too! > "You can't say I don't know my audience" …I feel quite called out 😅

To start, the casual nature of this video was very nice. No frills or un-needed info, with lots of demo of the tracking. Spot on! The issue with one tracker disconnecting (Especially while laying or sitting) is most likely the tracker thinking its not being used anymore and going to sleep. I have this same issue with my feet trackers on my goofy CV1 trackers. However mine just "freezes" in space, waiting for the connection. The reason yours go to a Default position is because for the estimation to work, it needs ALL trackers at all times to do its magic. However, just like Meta and the Quest Pro controllers, I am sure a software update will come out that will make this work so much better. Especially with 20 hour run time, I don't think the trackers need to be going to sleep really at all. An option to turn battery saving on or off would be welcome! The simple "foot rotation" sensor was a great addition that other IMU based sets don't feature! Great vid! Keep it up! ^^

really enjoyed the review, thank you!

Nicely crafted vid

I've had Haritora X Wireless for almost a year now and 1. The Steam crashing thing happens to me literally every time I use it and I ONLY have Haritora as an addon to steam VR 2. When one tracker goes out they all go out regardless of positioning, I've had trackers die and or just disconnect since my Bluetooth was poor and everything goes out as soon as one does

So glad you're covering these, I got them around the start of the year and absolutely love them

I got HaritoraX when it was 1.0, and I loved it.

This looks cool as heck

Great vids as always. great work keep it up ^.^

Wonderful! I’ll check this out!

How am I not subscribed? This guy makes amazing videos.

Awesome video bean 😊

Look at this adorable weadle bean ^w^

I got the HaritoraX wireless for myself as well... i can agree that they last for more than 20h x) just had a 17h + 5h VRChat session with one full charge

Very interesting video, those look like a good and affordable way to finally get ent on Quest. Maybe I’ll get some next year, had some very expensive things happening of which I have to recover from…

These seem pretty good.

I think i would get this on sheer size and form factor alone, looks easy to rest on and not absolutely fatigue your body

It never fails to amaze me how Furries and the ehm, *mature content enjoyers* keep pushing technology forward, from VR to AI it just keeps pushing this stuff forward and making it better.

Wow I’m so happy I got the wired Horitora X. The wireless seems like a nightmare.

You could use a kinect for fbt

I always love your videos. They are so informative and well-researched. Great job!

Finally learned the term for the thing that drives me nuts about my vive 3.0’s… mermaiding!

Quest 2 also works with estimation.

I think you should look into the eye tracker VR open source project

I have the wired version, or the 1.1 version. It works great majority of the time. Sometimes it randomly disconnects from bluetooth and I have to recalibrate but it happens so rarely it's not even an issue lol

Quick tip if your tech savy enough you could just use your phone camera or pc webcam on pc for fbt but the quality depents pretty hard on how good your camera is

Yeah as someone with the wired HaritoraX I definitely understand your avoidance. That was a PAIN to set up. That said wow, these both seem like they have better tracking and just, much more comfort than the wired version! Quite an improvement for sure. The "if one fail, they all fail" aspect of it though, that seems wild. They're wireless, why would they behave like Christmas lights and all die when there's minor interference for one of them??? That seems ridiculous

Can I suggest making a video about Standable? (Maybe including how it can benefit Vive/Tundra/Slime/Haritora/Axis/Kinect/etc tracking, though currently afaik it doesn't help slime and similar as much as it could but it's still being worked on)

Hmm... for me, I hve lots of regular trackers, but the issue is that they often go out of sight of the older V1 lighthouses I have, and upgrading to V2s would cost me a huge amount. I've always had the HatitoraX in mind (because the wired version means I can have as long as a battery life as I want), so I'm conflicted now, after this review, if I'm just better off upgrading my lighthouses or just getting the HaitoraX (wired or Wireless), or waiting for the fabled update you were talking about at the end.

Quest 2 body tracking is insane! I want this sooo bad, unfortunately im broke 😭 Nice video Tahvo!

honestly if u have the quest 3 you could probobly get away with waiting for the lower body tracking to come out if it hasnt already and then pair it with camera tracking for hopefully better feadback

Just bought some hopefully they're good (i use index and quest pro pcvr i hate air link)

Every time I see FBT I get excited but then I remember “oh yeah I’m dirt poor and I’m also an idiot with this sort of thing” lol There’s always the future though! I’m sure I’ll learn about those and eventually have the spare money to get something that suits me. Great video Tahvo :3

Future FBT i forsee is 4 webcams, and ai tracking you only you. Still drifting in my SlimeVR here ^^ and still ppl I meet think Im using basestations. 12 slimes is the golden number I have discovered for good tracking (just need to make Yaw reset shortcut button on cotntroller) But I do wanna get rid of the drift so , waiting for something new. Thanks for sharing your exp with these Hari wireless ^^.

this is cool

I literally just got the slimes. Well I mean kind of. I got them a while ago but one tracker bricked itself shortly after using it for a little. I am being extremely careful not to overcharge them now. Anyways, I dont got elbows and I didnt realize the quest 3 estimation actually estimates elbows, I should use that.

i use these for dancing

Any new stuff always has bugs and kinks to work out in the design. For now, I’ll probably be sticking to Slime trackers once I can get them, but definitely be keeping my eye on these for the future.

meta's estimation works on quest 2 too

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO THANKS DUDE LIFE DREAM

I wonder if eventually you could have tracking connected you your brain, the computer can track directly from where body says it is in space.

Ive bern waiting for more people to poke at this.

"when one tracker went out, they all went out" sounds like german engineering :3

I haven't seen yet but I expect it to be 1k atleast

Fellow regulus user, I've been looking for another set of trackers, I use custom slime vr and they're high maintenance

Hey, I was wondering, what you are thinking about the standable app on steam? Since it requires camera access to emulate the trackers and it doesn't have the restrictions meta has to scramble the input, do you think it is safe to use? Seems like a good cheap alternative to trackers for PCVR

I love this but I need help finding out if I should get this or slime trackers!!

One aspect not talked alot is the worldwide. Still looking for body trackers who have fair or just even have currency convertion so I don't need to sell my car for one of these! BUT Happy bodytrackers on USA are getting cheaper, one way or another it's gonna get cheaper for worldwide in that way!

bring back the negative canthal tilt pfp

A thing I don’t like about them is if one single tracked dies like let’s say the chest tracker died then you can’t use it anymore for some reason like I can’t use just ankle and hip I have to use all 6

its easy to say just get tundra they track better for like everything but make sure you have basestations and a giant room for it or it will loose tracking

i might buy this for my birthday on november 11 idk, i am still using the quest 2 so i might get a pcvr headset instead

Maybe this could be a good buy, if it isn’t obvious enough I’m a budget baller and I’ve been trying to see if I can find trackers that fit my budget.

HIya, long time Haritora X user (Wired/Wireless). For the Trackers going into different directions is due to placement from when you first tracked. its sorta weird but the only way for it correctly line back up, you would have to close steamvr and the haritora x app. Speaking of Apps I find tracking to be slightly better using the mobile app then on pc. since the OSC/IP network information goes directly into VRChat and not using a third party like steam. I haven't tried it yet but I wonder if you can use the Haritora X mobile app on pc.. Anywho, also interesting fact. You can also use Haritora trackers as slime trackers.

Now I just need a model...

Should it be possible to make a power up scene in An emote? Pls Tell me how i COULD possibly do this, i want to try every designer, animator and codator apps for this.

I think they should have stuck to the wired version, as that was unique among IMU-only FBT solutions.

Can you go over ZeniVR because I've been seeing it everywhere and I don't know if I should buy it or not.

lol hi there, I’m Tahvo!

do you think IMU trackers work through a wall? I have my PC in another room and no way of getting a cable from my PC to that room since I am not allowed to drill in the flat. I am looking for an FBT solution that will work with my Qpro

Once you ever have a question.... There will always be a furry from VRChat who has the knowledge to help - Sun Tzu

someone is gonna figure out how to use pokewalkers as VR trackers at this rate. I mean, You could theoretically use 4 joy cons and two joy con straps (from like, ring fit adventure.) to do this exact thing right?

damn thats really cool *sobs in wheelchair*

I can't say you don't know your audience. Team Paws!

Being in New Zealand really hurts trying to get into FBT money wise.

Nice review

Slimetora lets you use these trackers as slime vr trackers, enabling you to use all of the slimevr juicy fixes and good stuff, + you can use them as elbow trackers if you build only two more slimevr trackers (also the haritora software sucks just use the slimetora with slimevr XD)

Hmmm... seems like IMU trackers are still just wonky. I would be more interested in the new vive ultimate trackers right now

is there any good full body tracking that just works with quest 3 ? the ultimate vive trackers are horrible, any solution for that?

Hey, I've heard of using these with SlimeVR software, have you tried that at all?

Does it ship to Canada? That's my only concern

How dose this compare with Sonys mocopi tracers

One day, full body tracking will be the norm and more affordable. Kinda like when microwaves first came out.

wait, the blue guy is not another person? it was you all along?

6:04 To be ENTIRELY fair you're just the most informative VRC channel, furry or not lol

The disjointed trackers bug hits me using steamvr with owotracker and an extra phone for a waist, at this point im convinced that it's just SVR being... Well valve

Because Tahvo is a finnish name I want to ask from you are you a finnish too like me? As a Furry I LOVE your 3D animated Furry Dog character, it's so cute and your videos are awesome. P.S. Happy summer and Pride everyone! 🎉😊❤

So been meaning to ask. You use these in Resonite? Vrc? or Both?

I feel like these companies should just make the IMU's and route them through SlimeVR, as the slime software seems so much better than whatever they make.

how you call everyone out lmaoo

Do you need pc vr to have body tracking ?

Does these work with original oculus ;-; please tell me! I'd love to get them..

I bought the 1.1B and it keeps loosing tracking ;-;