It has come to light that some models of Acemagic/Kamrui/NiPoGi brand mini PCs have been known to flag virus warnings in Windows Defender. Acemagic have released an official statement that is worth reading for anyone who owns or is considering buying this brand of PC: www.acemagic.com/blogs/about-ace-mini-pc/acemagic-mini-pc-virus-incident-comprehensive-resolution-and-future-security-measures
It makes me really sad when HDMI or Displayport versions are not mentioned on these products and you have to go scouring the specific chip behind it to see if its DP 1.4, or HDMI 2.1 vs 2.0
I really like bargain hunting for these mini PCs, theyre always a joy! These older ones are starting to get close to the bottom of the price stack. for 279 pounds, its really close to a barebones 6800u or 6800h miniPC Although, storage, RAM and an OS does account for a lot in that.
yeah if this 5700U is having heat issues in that small box, the 8700G would roast without a much larger case, heatsink and fans. Which would drive the already much higher costs even higher. While this was like less than 300, a comparable setup with the 8700G might be triple that.
I have bought one from trigkey with 5800h, 32gb ram, 1tb nvme ssd and added an external 5700xt through the NVMe adapter. It had some issues like the drivers constantly wiping one another and sometimes the WiFi card just “died”, but nothing I could not fix. Total cost was under 500$, ideal for student on a tight budget needing a gaming and also editing rig. I since passed this cardboard abomination to my younger brother this Christmas and replaced it with a Alienware with 5900x, 32 gb ram and a rx 6900 xt for a little over $1000 after tax and shipping on eBay. I am living great life rn in the US, I am happier than I have ever been home in the EU and your content contributes a lot.
I'm putting this here because it's relevant to buyers who are looking for Compute power on a very low TDP and who want to focus on RAM-intensive and Compute-intensive tasks: I can confirm based on manufacturer specifications of the Mini PC (AM02 Pro, Multiple Vendor, Single Manufacturer), that it DOES take 64GB of DDR4 Memory. I have upgraded mine with a 64GB (2x32GB) Corsair Vengeance 2933MHz DDR4 Kit because I plan to use this for programming and light cases when not in need of my larger PC. The Ryzen 7 5700U is limited to 32GB only in laptop vendors, it seems, and AMD has made no official max memory support to my knowledge with it being vendor-specific instead. For buyers of this PC, if you need COMPUTE and RAM for tasks over any graphics workloads, this will do well.
I wouldn't pay more than £150 for a mini PC like this. Terrible performance. Worst than Xbox Series S for gaming, and on par with a 6 years old, tired laptop in general computing use. Can build a better desktop PC from 10 years old hardware parts.
This looks like the perfect replacement for my aging Plex server, just as you mentioned. I repurposed an old Lenovo i5-5200u powered lappy as a media server but its power usage under load is much too high (60-70 watts) for my tastes and the coil whine from the cpu fan is driving the dog mental. Thanks for the comprehensive review.
Didn't like this one, not much passion or whatever. But it's fair it wasn't a world changing product, just a normal gotta get that bill paid off review. You're still one of the better ppl covering this area of tech, keep up the good work.
Got the same chip, the 4800U. Pretty decent. I got mine in one of these Lenovo ThinkPads; like one of the very few laptops you can get without all the expensive, price-gauging useless gadgets for less than a grand with decent RAM and no superfluous dGPU. Has been the perfect work laptop for 4 years. Still a shame AMD just couldn't help themselves and try to mislead the ever living out of their consumers with those stupid laptop chip names. The entire mobile market is out to get you, and they can f right off.
As I type this, the AMZN US price for this with coupon is $270. For about $30 more you can get a Beelink SER5 5600H, which isn't hugely faster but has great build quality (aluminum case, etc). I've only had one Kamrui, which I returned as it was badly made plastic. I assume they've stepped up their game if you were impressed with this one.
This model has pretty good build quality, a mix of decent quality plastic and metal. I’m testing a cheaper Kamrui at the moment though, and it’s definitely as you describe- cheaper plastics, strong chemical smell.
The 5600H model I would expect would outperform the 5700U model by quite a bit. Assuming the cooling solution could handle it the TDP of the 5600H is listed as 35-54 W even though its a 6 core. Even at the low end of 35 W that should handily beat the 15W 5700U.
It'd be real epic when those M1 Ultra level of APU comes out. As limited in terms of expansion those mini PCs are, their miniature design sure has their charm. Hopefully there'd be more integrated solutions for those miniPCs to have some more external expansions such as fitting hard drive boxes or what not
Nah. I'm referring to Strix Halo, and maybe also Intel's counterpart, as Intel does pretty decently in graphics department with this Ultra lineup, that the hope is still up, kinda maybe. Those are the single package with discrete graphics sized integrated GPU, basically comparable to mid-range gaming system on the chip alone.
I can’t wait till hawkpoint comes to mini PC’s That will be the APU to get RX 780m graphics, 12 CU’s Zen 4, 8 core 16 threaded processor Even at 25 watts, it would perform around a RX 470 and if it is allowed up to 45 watts, it likely could OC enough to beat a RX 570 handedly That’s enough for any competitive shooter on the market rn Who knows, Strix Halo might come to mini PC’s with strange configurations
I'd love to have a mini pc, but I have to be able to connect 4 SATA drives. Sure, there are dock stations for drives, but they are not reliable, not compact (I only have 2.5" drives), probably high latency, not enough slots, and pricey.
I would've gotten this from amazon uk, but I live in The Netherlands, and ever since the silly brexit the import fees are ruining deals like this. Can get 120 off, so down from 400 to 280, but then import taxes puts it back up to 440 euros. Sadly it ain't on dutch amazon, so I guess I'll skip. Edit: their other models also got discounts it seems, 70-90 vouchers to apply on discount, so I can't get the 5700u model, but the 5500u model is. Edit2: even though the performance isn't crazy, if you consider that it's doing all of that at just 15watts total and around 300 bucks in such a small form factor, I think it's insane.
The fact that you can play games newer than a a half decade old AT ALL with a 15W sub $300 rig is crazy. The fact that it can probably run basically anything from 2015 back at an acceptable framerate just doubles that. Hell, I'm tempted to get a couple of them just to put on older relatives houses as basic office PCs that the kids might get some (reasonable) fun with too. And that's for zen2. Intel charges a pretty large premium for this performance and Apple aside, ARM is not even in the game.
Hey iceberg tech I have a question. So I’ve been hearing a lot about the gt 210 and gt 710 and fx 5200 which one should I buy? I heard all of these cards are some of the best on the market being able to run Alan Awake 2 with all the ray tracing on at around 180-200fps at ultra in 6k and it’s able to run Crysis. Which one should I buy?
I wish AMD had an apu that packs like rx 6600ish level of performance with 3d vcache and 6 zen 4 cores which is pretty fast and efficient. I mean a lot of laptops and these mini pc's would go with that configuration and the gpu part of the equation for the apus would start to make sense. Not being able to get at least 60 fps in fire strike in 2024 is just waste. Unless you need a really heavy cpu task to be handled all the time and no gpu requirement, that thing makes no sense.
I think 5000u powered mini pcs should die out and let the 6000 and 7000u series take it place Vega is a dying platform and the RDNA2/3 apus are newer/stronger
I would not really expect a thunderbolt port based on what else is generally available at this price. I can also get a few N100 boxes closer to half the discounted price of this one. Not bad for what it is but I don't see it being that popular.
So I can’t use a Sata ssd on the Sata port?? I have a this mini pc and I been trying to run the os from a Sata ssd using a Sata data cable and a separate cable for power source and I’ve been struggling to boot the system from the Sata ssd if you can help me here I will really appreciate that.
Thunderbolt is owned by Intel so I would be surprised if an AMD PC had it, lol. Though with Thunderbolt 3 spec being used for USB 4 you could get it kinda that way (at least possible for USB 4 to be interoperable with Thunderbolt 3).
@@GrumpyWolfTech really rare but yes it is possible with a dedicated chip to control the thunderbolt port but with USB 4 I would think it is going to be even rarer.
You get 5500U 14" Notebooks new for about the same, used for way less. Identical use case, but with all the bells and whistles and mobile. This little box makes sense for less than 150 in whatever money, thats it.
For that price, this is actually not all that bad tbh. It's basically a full modern PC for under $300 that doesn't perform like trash. There's very little you can complain about at that price point.
We are at the age where a little box that you can mount to the back of a monitor for £300 makes redundant all basic full size office PCs, and you can play a few games on it in your lunch break.
5700u seems to be more common now than when it was released - there are a few minis out there with this chip now. Nice to see it becoming a cheap alternative to the N100 - would be a better match for the N300, but they don't exist in this format
@@IcebergTech I know it's a single benchmark, but it stood out to me as a video editor. I fastidiously follow your charts because not everyone has these comparisons and I find your charts super useful with realistic hardware.
Damn. My boy really leveled up, Iceberg Tech is actually a decent size channel now. 2k views within and hour, I remember when his entire vids had 2k 🥲.
