Yes, actually I was vaguely aware of this, but when I looked up asl counting when researching this video I realized it wasn't quite close enough for me to make the direct comparison in the video. Definitely makes sense, since this is to replace sublingual or "mouthing" the count with something nonverbal for myself to understand. Thanks for sharing, and glad you enjoyed it!
Jon, man I am really enjoying your videos! You really break down the nuts and bolts on playing trumpet! I like your explaining approach. I've played trumpet over 50 years and the worst teachers were the best players. In a lesson they wanted to play all the time, instead of explaining concepts and approach. Your videos hit on stuff that many teachers ignore! Your counting approach is great! Of course I know you are an outstanding musician or you would not be in the Charlotte gig! Please keep these great videos coming and I will share them with my students as well. Many Thanks!🎺👍
Wow, thank you so much for your kind words and support! I started this channel because I found myself talking the ears off of my friends and colleagues about this super nerdy stuff, and I wanted to challenge myself to be more concise - so I'm really glad you like my approach and are enjoying my content. Certainly there will be lots more - I have so many ideas and can't wait to keep making more videos.
It’s a good one! Thanks Jessica, of course in a perfect world none of us would have to count at all but we don’t always have the pleasure of studying things to the point of memorization before performing.
Great video!! I know can’t handle counting that much rest, but I think the finger trick would mess me up too! That said, your #2 and #3 tips are 100% spot on. I’m lucky to be in a section (Oregon Symphony, with Jeff Work and Dave Bamonte) where we connect constantly on how many measures of rest we have. That teamwork aspect is crucial. And I’ve picked up cool tricks for marking parts from Jeff that I would be happy to share, if you’re interested. I’m a huge nerd.
Haha, it took a lot of practice to get the finger counting right, but I've been doing it for years now!! But I did also miscount a three bar rest the other day, so it can't solve everything. 🤣 Yes, teamwork is essential and there are so many unique ways to notate parts to take some of the pressure off the finger counting - always interested to hear new tips and tricks!
I bet!!! For me, playing trumpet (especially in a group) is the most stimulating thing I have ever done psychologically. No matter what I’m thinking about when I begin a rehearsal, in minutes I’m completely occupied with reading and interpreting music script, operating the trumpet, AND listening to the others I’m playing with ALL AT ONCE? Hard to beat that (for me anyway). Pick up the horn when you can and play a tune - you’d be back in shape quick and maybe you could find time to join a community band.
Wow Jon Thank you so much for making this video As a Percussionist I really had trouble Counting these rests and I would always get off tempo. After Watching this video I really improved alot. Thank you so much For this awsome video Keep up the good work. 👍
Thank you for the kind words! Ackley plays with us at the Charlotte Symphony as a sub on the regular - I feel privileged to play with such an amazing player!
@@JonTalksTrumpet Hey Jon, qq if you have time. I'm predominantly a jazz guy and I wind up doing a lot of upper register playing. My equipment reflects this and I use a marc shew 1 and 1.75. This is pretty shallow by classical/orchestral standards. Even when lipping up, I can only get to around a pedal Bb (had this problem for years). Any tips for getting that pedal C on shallow mpcs? I'm jealous of that fat pedal C you showed off in your previous video on that topic...
Sure! So, in my video I demonstrated a bunch of different mouthpieces and definitely the shallow ones are the hardest to play pedal C on. I would try the Harmon mute with the stem approach first, but otherwise maybe just practice it on a larger mouthpiece and see if you can eventually begin to reliably replicate it on the smaller mouthpiece. Good luck!
I play in a jazz big band. Counting is much easier because everything break dwon to 4, 8, 12, etc. Once you start hearing how the tune's phrases and licks go, you don't have to worry so much about obsessively counting each measure on your fingers. Most tunes are 32-bar length, and even the intros and "bridge" passages will almost always be in 4's or 8's. I'm sure it's harder in classical music, which is why I don't play it.
Haha! Well, while that would be ideal, professional orchestral players often have totally NEW hour+ long programs of rep they maybe haven’t played in a while (or ever) given to them to perform *every week* when we’re at full functioning! So at that point counting becomes a necessity so you don’t leave your colleagues hanging.
