Just an attempt at comparing all possible tire upgrade/upsize options for the Jimny in one place. And a comparison of the weights and fitment possibilities.
In my entire car life so far, never thought of calculating rotating mass and additional force acting by per tyre size mod. Every second of this video is valuable. is bande nu matha teko 🙏
no offence to the channel, but ye info koi bhi tyrewala de dega. tere lye kuch naya he mtlab mattha tekne wali baat tere lye hogi. dusro ko ye salah mat de 😂
@@MohammedAli-ng7rmAbe ulti khopdi ke tere dimagi level par hansi aati hai,jisko Jahan se achi knowledge milegi to uske liye to respect rahegi na knowledge Dene Wale ke liye? School bhi jata tha ya class bunk karke patang(kite) udane bhag jata tha? AKAL KA DUSHMAN
@@TreadTrails Is there any options for an ARB airlocker for the Jimny? We have one fitted for the Fortuner and the confidence with which we can tackle our roads ( house is off-road!!) during the Kerala monsoons is very very reassuring
You are one of the best in the business boss... Great indepth knowledge about what you are doing, sadly most of our Indian youtubers lack that main thing.. salute to your passion for knowledge.. after watching your last few videos one more subscriber added from assam/North East India... Stay blessed, always be happy..🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you for this very educative video. I will go for the Goodyear 215/75/R15 since i will only use the jimny for the city and want the wider look. Greetings from Chile, Southamerica!
Really happy to see such quality off road oriented content from India. I started developing interest in off road with the launch of Jimny in India. So, really a newbie to the 4*4 side of things. Still, I can understand that you are making really informative and interesting videos. Keep up the good work.
Hey, thanks for posting another gem on your channel. I am running 215 Geolanders on my Gypsy King with white letters. And I am super happy with them, have done almost 45k on the odo. Took them to one of the gnarliest of places you can find here in the Himalayas of Uttarakhand. I would definitely opt for the 235 Geolanders again on the Jimny, without a Doubt..... Thanks for posting such great videos again and again. Stay Well
Probably the most detailed analysis available on RU-vid so far-very, very informative. I am glad someone carries the potential to highlight technicalities that are yet to find their space in mainstream media! As always, Cheers to the team!! 😃
Thank you so much for such a wonderful informative video. Must've been quite a task getting all those sizes under one roof. Eagerly awaiting your lift kit video. Best wishes.
Perfect 👍 analysis.... Thank you giving information on rotating mass weight that impact while driving... 8.4kg of rotating mass / kg increase in tyre weight.
Great comparison and explanation , Jaideep. It really helped clearing my doubt b/w 215 and 235. Finally, I went for Yokohama 235/75/15 G015 first thing after taking the delivery today. Looking forward for more inputs on suspension upgrade, specially where and how to source it.
Beautifully explained.. thank you sir.. I just got a Jimny with good discount and looking to upgrade the tyres.. I feel 235s are a good to go on stock alloys without a lift-kit..
The Yokohama Geolandar G015 AT comes in 2 variants: * Passenger (P) spec: It is lightweight, has a less aggressive and a more dense tread design, which is more suited for highway driving. It only comes in black sidewalls. The 215 75 R15 Geolandar in this video is a Passenger spec tire. * Light Truck (LT) spec: It is a heavier tire with a more durable construction and tougher sidewalls. The treads are a lot more deeper and chunkier and than their P spec variants for more off-road ability. And these come with the white lettering on the side walls. This is why the LT235 75 R15 shown in this video is a lot heavier and a better looking tire than the 215 75 R15. These tires are great for all terrains except mud because of the straight line grooves in the tread. The Geolandar X-AT tire addresses this issue and is the overall best all terrain tire from Yokohama, but sadly I haven't seen it anywhere in the Indian market. I hope we get some good options soon!
People getting wider wheels, dont understand that wider wheels not only add unsprung mass, it slows down the vehicle, reduces acceleration considerably specially for a small engined car like jimny. Have always upsized tyres since last 2 decades, so i know how even a single upsize adds to all this. For a jimny anything over 215 is an overkill apart for just aesthetics. i would rather have a jimny which is agile and not a lethargic one with wider tyres specially when u have just enough power to manage.
Can't wait to see the final product after the lift kit & 30-31" tyre upgrade. I really want Suzuki to bring the 5door all over the world. Imo it way more practical than 3 door & with no compromises to it's capabilities. This is the only time i wish for a 5 door over 3 door 😅
Cant go for a long drive with Famly in 5 door variant, Suzuki Knows indian mentality, No one from here is going for Offroading after 3 month of buying these off roaders, suzuki want High sales number from Jimny too, thats why they try to make it more Practical as family Daily Driver's Car. I will buy 3 door over 5 door if Suzuki Launches 3 door for India. 5 Door is also a Head turner and Really a Practical car over its 3 door variant, but 5 doors lakhs that original Charm of 3 door Jimny . You got more Boot Space But it is less Comfortable than 3 door one. Every inch has been taken out for second Row and boot and second row doors, thus compromising every aspect of original design. Far more better than buying Mahindra Thar, the Fuel Drinker
finally. someone who compares the weight of the tires. being an anemic 1.5 engine, any additional weight will hamper the jimny. I've run 235 on 5.5" rims on trails and it didn't fail. But anything wider, a proper rim upgrade is better. Also, 235 rubs if flexed on stock suspension. All in all, good job explaining as you've covered most points.
@@SC0410 it will make it feel sluggish because of the added weight. You can still do more 100kph on it but at a higher rpm. Acceleration will take a hit as well. The issue with 235's or any heavier tire is that on uphill, you will need to drop gears and probably stay on 1st if it is steep enough.
JK Tyre is the most underrated tyre in India. It would be awesome if you could feature them since they are cheap, Indian-made, and come with 2-year unconditional warranty and 3 years of conditional tyres. You guys should also consider H/T's. I've got 235/75 R15 H/T's installed on my Jimny and have nothing but positive things to say about them! I've taken them off-roading and they do a pretty kickass job! Happy off-roading!
Good vlog dear sir. I am using Yokohama 235’s white letter ones on my Jimny. That rubber small flap could easily be removed. There are just 2 small screws. You talked about no acceleration response loss, which I tend to disagree, in fact it’s the same feel when I had these 235’s on my earlier Gypsy too. Adding 235’s does make Jimny sluggish when going uphill ( I mean the initial throttle response) . And at higher altitudes (passes), it’s even more sluggish. Hope you clarify on this matter. Thanks
Thanks for such an informative video. Just one question. What about Geolander 235 70 R15 instead of the 235 75 R15. Do you think that will eliminate the issue of rubbing against the flap?
Dear Mr. J.S. Chahal, I have subscribed to your channel and avidly watched all your videos on the Jimny eversince I booked my Alpha MT on 13th January and still waiting for it in Bangalore city. Your guidance is required on the supply source in India to procure the Differential Breather Extension kit for overcoming the paltry 300mm water-wading depth of the Jimny. Also, please share your advise on a stainless steel snorkel kit. For me, these two enhancements are critical value-additions to the Jimny. Kindly speak about these two aspects in one of your future videos. Lastly, it is most helpful of you to share the thumb rule calculation of the 8.4 multiplying factor for every additional 1 kg. of rotating mass. This data point is a real EYE OPENER for us all. Warmest regards, Srinath Murthy
Thank you sir The diff breather can be a diy thing with any braided hose also. But for a proper kit, you can pick the universal fit diff breather kit from Ironman4x4 india also
Interesting, but I feel You didn’t address a couple of issues - - the stock rims on the Jimny are 5.5j and as such any size over 215 width makes the tyre bulge. (215s fit from 5.5j to 7j). Bulging tyres as can be apparent on yourJimny, makes it less safe - more prone to blowout and also the full width of the 235 section isn’t hitting the Tarmac. So what’s the point? - you say it’s only touching a rubber part on full lock. But this is when the veh is standing still or moving straight on a smooth road. Any bit of off-roading or even uneven roads will make the car pitch and trust me, the bigger tyres will scrape against the body. So either the plastic part of the car gets worn out or the tyres get worn out. Tyres replacement in six months, anyone? - the wheel rims and tyres are the suspended weight. The Arms, the ball joints and the tie rod ends/ link rods bear the weight. It doesn’t matter how heavy or light the vehicle is. The chassis supports the weight. Whereas these suspended weights have to be as light as possible. Even a kilo heavier is a big deal. It’ll just make the suspension very stressed and will give way sooner. Esp if you decide to go off-road on a regular basis. - the larger the tyre, the less fuel efficient the car’s gonna be. It matters more on underpowered petrol vehicles like the Gypsy and the Jimny. - the Jimny is already a pretty underpowered car. Any additional weight (esp on the suspended parts) will make it quite a bit slower and more sluggish. You can check RU-vid for a few International videos of similar Jimnys running stock vs larger tyres drag race or set lap times. It’s all there. I say all this from experience. I’ve tried various combinations of tyres and suspension on Gypsys and Mahindras and have gone hard core off roading and also on long tours. I know suspension cause I’m in the field. I own a workshop in Sikkim and repair cars. If you just want to put the largest size tyre on stock rims just for an ego boost and don’t want to invest in suspension/ wider rims upgrade then I guess you could put 235s but they will only harm the vehicle in the longer run. Otherwise, on stock setup, 215s are the widest you can go safely. It looks good enough and will be competent enough. If you are concerned about fuel efficiency and quick times, stick to stock sizes.
The issue I think with your initial analysis was incomplete let me put in that where I am coming from, after using the stock tyre for a complete one year 16000km usage in snow, mud, grass except sand on possible surfaces, as my only primary car in Shimla the moment I switched to 235/70/15 Lt At Yokohama Geolander the point you missed out was possibly because of difference in terrains where we dwell, the car has lost its torque to the tune of Rotational mass of additional 240 kg bringing down the mileage as well but rest are all non issues touching is not at all that significant bare minimal on stock suspension as well. Breaking 100% better Body roll far less Straight line and corner stability also superb now Pot hole rough road mitigation improved On corner the traction control kicks in little more with feedback. I use the car every day for a complete rough patch of 1km on 35% incline and decline with sharp multiple three point corners no other vehicle can do what this little devil can do. But upsize is better than the stock any day. Issues can be corrected by going for a windbooster or a remap which I never thought but will go now for sure. T C
Thank you for the detailed analysis, you are 100% accurate here. Being a small engine, the upsize definitely takes a toll on the performance but the benefits as you mentioned are huge as well. And can be countered with correct tuning and other performance enhancement options. Thank you for making time and sharing your feedback.
There is what I consider to be the ideal tyre size for the 5 door JIMNY, especially with the extended wheel base as compared to the 3 door version. Unfortunately they are not available 😡 it’s the 215/80R15. The ground clearance increases from 210 to 226. Does not add too much unsprung weight. Geolander makes it in the AT category !
Nicely explained BUT if the camera person can point to the tyres instead while explaining as in some instances the viewer cannot see which tyre your hands are pointing to
Excellent explanation, thank you for helping make the decision. Kindly also advise the right tire pressure for Tarmac with YOKOHAMA 235/75 R15 GEOLANDAR
I would like to see an FB74 with the largest tyres in this video. Thanks for this, very informative. Also if you fit an 8 inch width rim what offset is required?
Firstly great video again! It’s truly gem of content you’ve created so far in your Jimny thread of videos. So Jaideep, quick one. If the plastic thing is not so much of a hindrance why could’nt one remove that part completely? I see there are some plastic screw holding that part to the fender. Wouldn’t that be more functionally conducive rather than the rubbing playing in one’s mind?
I am taking my Jimny Delivery next week, I am gonna upgrade the tyres for sure. I am not going to take it for any off-road track. But just for the sake of stability and looks I am going to change it. 1) My question to you is should I go for 235/75 R15 or 215/75 R15 ? 2) On a sharp turn with bumpy India road, does it hit the bumper or the inner cladding ?? Plz reply as I have found your videos most useful, just counting on you
Hello Jaydeep, Good rundown on the Tyre Upgrade. Sadly decided not to proceed with the Jimny as we found the costing too high for 4 seats, but suited only for two in real terms. However letting go of the 4x4 option and the Jimny, and for only a Lac more thinking of more Comfort, Space and a bit of Luxury, will be looking at the Kia Carens. In view of which, could you suggest an upgrade size for the same as it comes with a 205-65-R16 and feel a larger profile would do the trick. Look forward to our views.........
Hello sir. Very nice detail you provided. After watching your video i get my jimny lifted and went for 31/10.5/15 tyre. At first i didnot feel much difference in performance(may be I was too excited by its look) but later i found it too be very heavy for the engine to run with, the milege also dropped to 9.5 to 10 ltr/km. So i think its too much for the jimny to handle 31 inch tyre. Whats you sugestion?
At higher rpm your tyre diameter will increase, at that when you take right turn or left turn, you may have more noise. Pls check that give your feedback bro.
Hi Jaideep, just to addon, to compensate for the increase in unsprung mass you should add the exact amount on the spring side examples could be metal bumpers, rock spiders, etc; this way overall suspension behaviour will remain same
Hi jaideep,its been more than 2 months you been using 235 wrangler.Any updates? Does it still rub on plastics/rubber. Whats the tyre pressure you figured out?any issue specifically for 235’s while offroading? Also appreciated your view on appollo apterra 225/70/r15 as it is the only option in 225.
Fantastic vlog , good wishes from Bhopal ( MP ) , on stock Gymny Rims wt Yokohama 235 how about suspension travel ? Will it hit wheel arch top in potholes ?
I think 235 75 r 15 are d best option considering both world on road n offroad performance, even i had booked white zeta at, nexa guys r forcing me to get alpha at whte, As of now cant buy anyof them as budget ( cz of unplanned Hilux purchase) isnt permitting will probably buy one next year and get these 235. Meanwhile I upgrade Hilux tyre from stock bridge 265 60 r 18 to BFG 265 65 r 18.. No difference felt on onroad performance, thiugh mileage got dropped by around 1kmpl, as i had completed more than 9k kms on Hilux .. 4.5 on Bridge n around 5k on BFG
