Hey everyone! I want to make a note about something I was incorrect about. Charging Ion's laser shot DOES NOT increase damage. Although it is great for goosing pilots and is my favorite hitscan pilot deletion tool!
@@cactustwizz1845Nah, Ion is one of the best titans in the game. The main thing players dont get, ions recource is time. You can beat any titan (besides maybe an equally skilled ronin) in a 1v1, assuming you run her tripwire kit and play time. You just poke and peak with lasershots and shield, use traps to punish pushing and continuesly run like a bitch. And since your lasershot is a hitscan you can outpeek northstars consistently. Tone? Again play time, once that shield is down hit some lasers, block the rockets and repeat. Scorch just gets bullied because he cant keep up. Monarch gets poked like a tone would and and his whole kit gets shut down by ions shield. Same goes for legion, just that you should treat him like a tone and wait out the shield. And with ronin it really comes down to mindgaming his shots and trying to hit bursty damage in the for of lasershots and traps when his swordblock is down, tho a ronin will most of the time take away the win as long as the fight starts in decently close quarters and the ion cant get a ton of lasershots of beforhand. Ions power doesnt lie in high damage or health, it lies in the sheer amount of time you waste for enemys and given you dont gets pinched you can shut doen any titan. Also, pulverising pilots from any range is kinda nuts aswell.
Lets not forget that scorch auto-pilot mode and especially enhanced auto-pilot is a monster considering his accuracy with his primary. He hits so many airshots with it it’s insane
I know right, enhanced auto scorch will outclass most piloted titans, and almost never get a battery stolen. And that's without you being there to support it, if an enhanced auto scorch has his pilot as backup he will be unstoppable.
Idk i main ronin and scorches are food for me. Main cannon shells and fire cans are easily avoidable with 3 dashes and sword block. Shoot shotgun when no thermal shield. Maintain distance. 20 seconds later no scorch with little damage taken.
@@alpharius6206 if you have the phase shift when doomed makes Ronin easily the most powerful nuke in the game, I can't tell you the amount of times I've been doomed in a fight and just disappear, they think I'm gone, then murder an entire approach
@@alpharius6206 agreed, phase behind or just dash backwards. With sword block it reduces damage (excluding melee) by 70% (85% with core) heck with sword core, ronin can survive a nuke eject
Papa scorch is crazy on console, especially with that improved thermal shield. Ronins core can’t even out dps the shield it’s crazy, I’ve killed two ronins in one charge with it before!
Opinion on how to play them: Tone. Keep your distance. Monarch. Don't die early. Scorch. Surprise mechanic. Ronin. Hit and run. Ion. Adjust your playstyle. Legion. Just keep on shooting. Northstar. Never get caught.
Yup. That, that just about sums it up. Though for Monarch, I would change “don’t die early” to just… well, “don’t die, period.” It’s a B I T C H to upgrade the core to max
Really? Legion is "just keep shooting" that's how you play legion dumbly with legion you should take out Northstars and monarchs first bc they provide covering fire or support for the team, so get them out fast then take care of tones or ions bc their damage output and then scorches ronin's or legions as they aren't huge threats unless immediately in your face
@@battel_bruser3928 it was supposed to be very basic explanations of each. But as a G87 North Star main I can guarantee you that you will never kill a good north star with legion. My biggest threats are ronin and monarch due to my low health and ronin being just as fast as me if not faster so it’s hard to escape and monarch not being super slow while also having good damage and health/shields. A good north star will always reposition as soon as they become the main target. My job is to sit back and shoot through as many Titans as possible. It’s also really easy to fight off a legion at range if you peak fire with the rail gun, you don’t just stand out in the open while it charges.
if you use double electric thingy on ronin you can just move around the enemy use it when it looks at you than sword then agan use electric thingy boom theyre already ded if theyre not scorch ,legion or super chasis upgraded monarch and just do this a little bit they die too
I main Ion. the reasons WHY are because A: I have a stupidly aggressive playstyle that doesn’t work with Monarch due to her not having a shield. B: She’s extremely versatile, which helps if a scorch comes round a corner and starts introducing me to hell. C: hehe ion prime execution go BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Papa Scorch is the don daddy but he's also the worst titan. Tempered plating and no crit spots should be standard (he can't hit crits either). If they did that, gave him 2 or 3 rounds of thermite and nerfed the flame shield damage a touch he would be viable.
@@cobraBLACK he's only the worst if your bad with him. I have a g60 scorch and the only titan I lose to consistently is a northstar far away. he can kill any titan close range I seconds and if you don't run into your fire and use the traps smartly you don't need tempered plating
@@glarbo3965 My Scorch is G100. He's devastating in the right circumstances but useless when conditions are wrong. Most maps he will get shit on if you're against players that know what they're doing. Just stay away from him for the win.
@Lucas Heath Unless that damn Tone crippled you to half a bar. It's an experience that puts hatred into every Monarch. Especially when you're good enough that you can run "checkmate Monarch" and still be good. (Which by the way, the mark of a truly good Monarch main is when you don't need to cheese with energy thief to rip a new one for the team.)
Its even more sad when you think that you have a good monarch main on your team, and trust them in a 2v1, but then you both get absolutely out played by the opponents monarch and have to nuke eject with the other monarch at full shield and one full bar of health higher than when you begam
Ion is fairly newbie based at first, but when you find out all the things of how ion works, a whole new playing field is unlocked, many people don't utilise ions damage cap on the shield or the fact that you can kill a rodeo pilot with the laser tripwire or even block an entire thermite canister so it does no damage when ignited with your vortex shield.
The first time i use ion, i'll always use lens reflecters, turbo engine, and ion's energy blaster. So basically, all i do is stick with another titan, ads and shoot anything
Personally, I love playing Northstar. It isn’t something you can’t play instantly, it’s a Titan that takes a lot of time to learn. It has a stupidly terrible defense ability, which is fantastic because it teaches you to play strategically and from far away. Before I played Northstar, I was a Tone main, and I have loved the change from blank shooting to strategizing paths and shots. …Plus the prime Titan termination is so, so cool…
One small correction, a good scorch main always beats a ronin. The sword does a lot less damage then the flame shield and by the time they notice you’ve got a free execution.
I think the issue with this is that ronin simply doesn’t have to deal with the scorch. He has every option at his disposal to just run away from the fight and let his teammates deal with scorch from across half the map. They’re both close range titans, but ronin isn’t actually worthless on maps like homestead due to his mobility options.
@@angryktulhu it's based on personal experience, as he stated at the beginning of the video. people say tone is extremely good, but I couldn't hit the broadside of a ship with her if I was 5 feet away. I have got more railgun kills on pilots then total kills with tone. not everyone plays every titan at their best.
I think Ion is powerful because she specifically have no hard counter. This makes it so when she is in a 1v1, it's more about the ion player's skill that determine if they survive
Ion is either put in S tier or goddamn C tier depending on who’s reviewing her. Ion should be my favorite titan since her kit is so basic but I just cannot do well with her for some reason.
For those who can't do good with Ion: Just be a sissy and join Northstar in the back. Peck with the LS until you get your core, then rip reality into small pieces. It may not be the most fun of playstyles, but man does it get the job done. Although as a Gen 10 Ion (as well as every other titan except for Scorch, Legion and Tone), I typically take the standard front line fighter, and it works well enough for me!
coming from an ion/northstar main, ion is bottom s tier. I can beat monarchs (its way harder when the monarch has arc rounds) and legions, but tone and northstar are harder bcuz when I catch their bullets with my shield, its very inaccurate and does little dmg when I spit it back. Ronins are easier to beat than a tone or ns. and with scorch I just keep backing up and I have turbo engine on every atlas class, so the scorch will hurt himself, and I can deal dmg with splitshot and laser shot. that's my ion placement.
@@SnowzZ-oz7pn how do you deal with Ronins? I am an Ion main and have a gameplan for every titan except a capable Ronin. He will just dash through my trap, block my shots, ignore my smoke and cut me into small slices. I honestly don't know what to do. Is it all about that perfectly timed melee that will hit him before he hits you? I haven't learned it yet.
@@christophbiebas5794 ronin players all have a similar play style if not the same play style. If you see a ronin rushing you, they most likely aren’t blocking so take that opportunity to use laser shot and then shoot the rifle. They will most likely phase behind you so turn around and use the wire to block them off cuz their faze is on cool down. Then repeat.
For Monarch I wouldn't say she's super easy to play since she only really becomes an unstoppable killing machine at T3 but you can usually tell how good the pilot is based on their performance with her. If you have someone running around as T3 Monarch for the entire game you know you're playing against someone who can manage her early cores well since that's when she's at her weakest.
Monarchs just need to be destroyed ASAP and that’s where the tactics play the role. If your team has no clue and just runs around randomly then yeah it might turn into an issue. But the newborn Monarchs are harmless lol
@@angryktulhu Yeah that's why if I see a monarch I will target him above all other threats, even taking my own life to deal as much damage to him as possible
@@oscarhendry2365 sure. That’s why Monarchs are harmless if your team knows what they are doing. If they aren’t, well, then it’s your fault ))) Don’t get me wrong monarchs aren’t under powered or smth, they only become an issue if your teams lets them to do so by running around thoughtlessly like dogs in the park lol
Hello, I have a G17 Scorch and wanna chime in with my takes on the titan. While he may be the hardest titan to play, he's far from a hard thing to use in the wider fps context. I struggle more when using a Kraber than the thermite launcher, and the Kraber is my most used weapon by far. The thing with scorch is that unless you can directly outplay or surprise an enemy, you're toast. Basically the only counterplay a Scorch has vs a mid-long range Northstar or Tone is to predict when the titan will peek out from cover. Since the vast majority of fps players will peek corners almost rhythmically, dipping in and out for the same amount of time every time, this can be surprisingly easy. Same counterplay applied to pilots trying to anti-titan weapon you. But, if these players realise you're predicting their peeks they can either adapt their timings, or just stop peeking. A Scorch, when played well, can dominate a lobby. A lobby that doesn't know any better. Scorch is only ever as good as you let him be. He does have some bs plays, flushing pilots out of a room with a trap + shot, etc. A good scorch can destroy and titan or pilot thrown at them. Unless that titan or pilot is sentient, and willing to pay attention to and disable the scorch. However, if people don't wanna learn, a good scorch can farm lobbies faster than you imagine. To close off, here's some random notes about scorch. You can animation cancel the reload with the flame shield. If you back up into a wall, look up, and hold flame shield, any pilot that just finishes a rodeo will be immediately killed. Scorch can snipe if you're comfortable with the weapon. Mid range maps like Blackwater are some of my favourites. Scorch can pop flame core right before nuke ejecting and get both off. This funny animation cancel can decimate titan HP. Pilots often do not respect a Scorch. They will assume you will miss. If you get comfy with his gun, pilots will begin to donate kills to you. Also use flame shield as a melee alternative vs pilots
While scorch can easily dominate lobbies when players are running normal strats any pilot with a dedicated Titan hunting loadout will basically just destroy the scorch without them being able to stop them A mid range pilot with high ground and good movement an SMR amped weapons firestars e smoke or satchels can melt a scorch without being stopped
@@rubryc1557 I could guess but by the time most Titans realize that the pilot is dealing more damage to them than the Ronin in front of them they've already lost most of there health which at that point is fair trade if they even do manage to kill the pilot The pilot will be back in about 6 seconds That Titan will probably not be getting it's health back
@@hellhound74 yeah I know lol. Got games I lost more than half of my health trying to kill one pilot. That's why I never drop my titan unless the other team got 2 or 3 down.
As a ronin main I very much pride myself in playing good enough that when an unexperienced pilot tries to verse you but runs away instead is such a good compliment. Once became friends with a fellow ronin main by giving a really fun fight. Straight out of an anime I’ll tell ya
I feel that you missed out on how insanely good Northstar's cluster missile is for clearing out enemy pilots hiding in buildings, especially in hardpoint or bounty hunt. As for Tone, my problem with it is just how much low risk high reward it is. I feel like it's easier to use than Monarch, because with Monarch, you need to survive long enough to become unkillable, where as Tone just does so much damage overtime that it doesn't need to survive that long to be effective. Plus it's 40mm is just the best pilot killing weapon out of any titan.
Legion is great if you want to kill pilots and support your team. Say you have a friendly titan who is in a bad position in between two titans and its nearly doomed, you can dash in front of them with a gumshield and just drain the health of the enemy titans until they retreat or are destroyed. This works especially well with smartcore. Problem with being a legion main is that you have to be willing to sacrifice your titan to the team. All in all, good for winning and score farming, but okay with getting titan kills.
real legion players use ronin tactics flank from the rear dash into their face and preforme a closerange sneeze and scare the fuck out of them no one expects it
Hidden compartment makes Legion way scarier to fight up close. Hitting both shotgun sneezes is enough to out damage just about anything except a Ronin’s core or a Scorch giving you a hug. It’s also harder to shoot around his gun shield as long as the pilot keeps facing toward you
I have found the meta ion main load out. This I swear. Pilot: grapple gravity star spitfire with gunrunner extra ammo and hcog Archer missile with extra ammo and speed loader pistol of preference I use the re45 phase embark low profile Ion nuke eject vortex amplifier and warpfall Pilot special depends on the map but I tend to use the pilot sentry. I do not throw one down as soon as I get it I let them stack for ambushes
This load out is meant to be aggressive just as much as ion herself is. No camping in a corner using the gravity star can do exactly what the shield amplifier does if you unload into it the pilot sentries can be used like the tripwire mines and the archer is like the like the laser shot:(I don’t really like the laser antitan it just takes too much time in my opinion) but because ion is an assault/defense titan she is also the perfect ambush predator if you can lead other titans into an ambush of your team then turn around and do damage with full spread splitter rifle then you can turn tides. And be honest you will always get a ronin to follow you if you piss him off enough
Dude I almost exclusively main holopilit since its so damn memey- oh whats that? Youre trying to melee my holo? Dont mind if i come up and *snap* you from behind right back
Thanks for keeping up with this 6 year old game, it holds a special place in my cold dead heart and it makes me happy to see people still loving it this far in the future
New Player tips for scorch: 1: Stay Close range as much as possible 2: if you playing in long-range maps try to find cover and try to flank the enemy (I know he is supposed to be a tank but do not underestimate scorch behind enemy lines ) 3: He is a combo titan if you combo your gas traps and your firewall then get to their face with the fire shield it kills everything in its path 4: do not be afraid to solo Ult in a 1v1 if your losing might as well use it 5: find your way to play scorch and have fun :D
As an Ion main, ion is EASILY S-Tier and she isn't as newbie-focused as you seem to think. Her kit is simple to understand, but mastering energy management gives her significant reward for skilled play. A skilled Ion has an answer for literally every single titan in the game and most titans have no good answer for her. Close range combat titans are probably her biggest threat, but if you're good at mindgames, Ion invalidates Ronin's shotgun completely, and due to Ronins short firing duration, you don't have to use much charge to do so, leaving you with PLENTY of power to laser shot him when he lowers block. Not to mention throwing down the tripwire when he's already in melee range means he can't just shoot it - it'll go active on top of him. She also is great in medium and long range due to her ability to snipe with laser shot at absolutely any range - She's a better sniper than even northstar imo. The only thing Ion has no answer for, is if she rounds a corner and runs into a scorch, being unable to get away due to having only one dash. Also, Ion's laser gains absolutely no benefit from charging. It's the same damage no matter how long you hold it. I really think you vastly underestimate Ion, mostly because you don't play her much. She is not just versatile, but DOMINANT in almost ALL situations, capable of invalidating enemy titans offenses with vortex staggering, while outdamaging them with close range tripwires and well timed laser shots to weak points. I strongly believe she is the most powerful titan in the game, even outstripping Monarch.
As a legion main, countering Ion isn't that hard. Ion relies heavily on energy management and the predator minigun forces Ion to either waste a bunch of energy to not get sprayed down by it or try to out-dps it, which doesn't go well a lot of the time. It really just comes down to being able to outlast Ion, which isn't easy but it still very much is possible
I agree on lots of things from what you said, but first off, goo Northstars are seen once in a blue-moon, but their aim + prediction skills blow laser shot out of the water, and you missed a detail, monarch first core arc rounds, that monarch specifically, is the best titan in the game, since she counters ION. Otherwise, agree with everything you said. (Pro tip: Use turbo engine to have more mobility than ogre class titans)
Dude as soon as I started playing scorch he was immediately my favorite and was pretty much the only titan I played, it’s been a while since I played tf2 but I used to go 20-30 kill games because of that powerhouse, thermal plating was for sure s tier btw
man I love how time goes in titanfall, my first love was legion then changed to scorch and now northstar, honestly when I was in my prime scorch days, even bad maps he could still absolutely shred against north stars sometimes and overall the ttk with him is just so fun but man north star just has the capability to be so consistent that especially with enjoying apex and viper from story it just has a story attachment with me aswell
Lol I’m titan brawl I use vortex shield amplifier boost that does extra damage when sending back their bullets bye bye legion lol I don’t know why some legion players keep spraying me
As a Scorch main, i can definitely say that Scorch is one of the hardest Titan for people to play, but arguably the best for a player that's good at him. When i call in my Scorch, no Pilot can get much damage on me, and no Titans can get an upper hand on me. He's crazy good if you are really dedicated to him.
While i was a scorch main, before i knew about monarch, i never saw a problem with any map while playing him. Did realize that long maps were a disadvantage for him, but i think i got too good with his primary after out shooting a north star from across the map using heat shield to block shots.
Scorch is a meme titan. you know whoever using it is just playing for fun or you know theyre that good that using scorch isnt even a disadvantage to them.
OH MY GOSH THE NEW INTRO IS FUCKING LIIIIIIIT I LOVE IT! not going to lie I legit gasped and my jaw dropped when I saw it! :D Ngl I kind of agree with many of your points for Titans, but I have to Argue that each Titan can be fucking TERRIFYING if played correctly and with a good Pilot at the controls. No matter what they're rated. But yes, Scorch is definitely a close quarters Titan when no other Titans have room to get out of the way.
The Hog Rider card is unlocked from the Spell Valley (Arena 5). He is a quick building-targeting, melee troop with moderately high hitpoints and damage. He appears just like his Clash of Clans counterpart; a man with brown eyebrows, a beard, a mohawk, and a golden body piercing in his left ear who is riding a hog. A Hog Rider card costs 4 Elixir to deploy. Strategy When he is jumping over the river, he cannot be targeted by any ground attacking units. The Log and Earthquake will fail to damage a Hog Rider while he is jumping. Air troops can still attack him though, and the Inferno Tower and Inferno Dragon will continue to ramp up their damage. When countering Hog Riders, obviously use buildings. But be wary as it the offender would usually play around it with cards such as Earthquake. Air swarms such as Minion Horde can help due to the Hog's usual support tools not countering them. On the offender's side, a powerful move is to accompany him with an Earthquake, obilerating almost every building, and also grounded swarms. To a lesser extent, Lightning could also be used, retaining the same point of almost destroying every building while also crippling troops such as the Wizard or the Hunter. The Log could also be an effective first play as a cycle, but it only kills swarms and sometimes a non-center-placed Tombstone. The Hog Rider can be paired with the Lumberjack as both a swarm bait and damage combo. It is a very fast combo with an extremely high damage output potential, so the defender will likely try to counter it with a swarm. If this happens, the offender should use a spell like Arrows to render the defender poetically defenseless. If they manage to defeat the Lumberjack, the dropped Rage will make the Hog Rider even more dangerous than it normally is. A fast and deadly combination is the Hog Rider and Mini P.E.K.K.A. combo. Both units are fast but the Mini P.E.K.K.A. does much more damage and does not attack only buildings so the Mini P.E.K.K.A. can deal with troops like the Executioner and Musketeer. However, this combo can be defeated with swarms like Skeleton Army, which will defeat both of them since neither of them can deal area damage. They are also unable to target air troops, so the Minion Horde can stop this easily. A Hog Rider combined with a Goblin Barrel can be awkward for the opponent to defend against. Timing it so that the Hog Rider is tanking the tower shots for the Goblins is the most effective way to deal damage. A Barbarian Barrel can shut this down with minimal Tower damage for a positive Elixir trade, as long as the Goblin Barrel was placed directly on the Tower. Use another card to counter the Hog Rider if it is necessary. His fast move speed can boost forward mini tanks like an Ice Golem in a push. At the same time, he can also function as a tank for lower hitpoint troops such as Goblins as he still has a fair amount of health. However, the Hog Rider struggles with swarms, as they can damage him down and defeat him quickly while obstructing his path. Barbarians in particular can fully counter him without very strict timing on the defender's part, though they are vulnerable to spells. Swarm cards like Skeleton Army, Goblin Gang, and Minion Horde can also very easily counter him. Use this to your advantage by placing a bulky swarm dealer in front of the Hog Rider (eg. Ice Golem, Valkyrie) so that the Hog Rider can transport it to the tower faster and also get protection from swarms. Most cheap swarms complement the Hog Rider well, as they are nearly as fast as him and usually force more than one card out of the opponent's hand. The Hog Rider in conjunction with the Freeze can surprise the opponent and allow the Hog Rider to deal much more damage than anticipated, especially if the opponent's go-to counter is a swarm, or swarms are their only effective counter to him. Skeletons and Bats will immediately be defeated by the spell, while Spear Goblins, Goblins, and Minions will be at low enough health to be defeated by a follow up small spell. Against non-swarm troops, it can deal a lot of damage during the freeze time, but this can allow the opponent to set up a massive counterpush. For this reason, players should either only go for a Hog Rider + Freeze when they have other units backing it up from a counterattack, or if the match is about to end and they need to deal as much damage as possible. The exception to this is an Elixir Collector placed in front of the King's Tower. If a Hog Rider placed at the bridge, he can destroy the Collector for a positive Elixir trade, though the damage from both Princess Towers will usually mean he does not survive to deal any damage to them. However, if the opponent sends in defending troops, it can be an opportunity to gain spell damage value. It is obviously not a good idea to send in a Hog Rider simply to destroy a building, especially if it is the only building targeting unit available, as defeating Crown Towers becomes substantially more difficult. Spells or simply waiting out the lifetime of the building are more effective. When there are buildings placed in the middle to counter the Hog Rider, understanding the placement of the Hog Rider and the type of building placed can help the Hog Rider to bypass certain buildings. Passive buildings such as spawners have a larger hitbox than defensive buildings; which means that if a passive building was placed 3 tiles away from the river in the middle of the opponent's side, then it is impossible for the Hog Rider to bypass that placement as the Hog Rider will get pulled to that building. The Hog Rider can kite Very Fast non-building targeting troops due to his own Very Fast speed and building only targeting if he is placed on the fourth tile from the bridge, slightly into the opposite lane. He can also stall grounded units when placed right at the bridge. He will pull them towards him while deploying, and then be untargetable by them when he jumps over the bridge. After landing, he will pull them back. This can be useful when the player needs to deal damage in the same lane they are defending. It will also help separate troops behind a tank in a large push. A very powerful combo is the Hog Rider, the Musketeer, and the Valkyrie, typically referred to as the Trifecta. The Musketeer will defend against most troops, while the Valkyrie can protect her and the Hog Rider from swarms or high damage units. The Hog Rider is used to deal damage to the tower. However, this is for a whopping 12 Elixir. This can be effectively countered by Lightning, one-shotting the Musketeer and severely damaging both the Valkyrie and Hog Rider. The Minion Horde is also effective, but the enemy can Zap them and the Musketeer will one-shot them all. Even if the Musketeer is defeated, the Hog Rider and Valkyrie will have enough time to severely damage the Tower. P.E.K.K.A. can hard counter this strategy allowing relatively low damage and being able to start a counterpush for a 5 elixir advantage. The Hog Rider should be placed behind the Valkyrie to give it a boost so that it stays in front of the Hog Rider, protecting it. Pairing the Hog Rider with the Balloon can deal devastating damage. If executed properly, the Hog Rider will act as a tank while the Balloon threatens to deal massive damage. The Hog Rider can also destroy any buildings attempting to slow down the combo. However, this combo is very vulnerable to swarms and anti-air cards as neither of the troops target anything but buildings. Additionally, they are easy to separate, due to the disparity in move speeds. Alternatively, the Hog Rider and the Balloon can be played in different lanes to spread the opponent's defenses thin. However, a building or Tornado can bring them back together for an easier defense. A solid play is to deploy the Hog Rider at the bridge as soon as the match starts or when you reach 10 elixir which is safer. If the opponent does not react fast enough or has a bad starting hand, the Hog Rider will deal a significant amount of damage to the Princess Tower. This can also allow the player to quickly scout the opponent's deck if they happen to react to him fast enough. A Hunter can kill the Hog Rider in 2 hits if placed right on top of it. However, if the opponent places something in front of the Hog Rider, the Hunter's splash will transfer overkill damage to said card. r connect to the tower.
as a legion main I... can confirm the number of times I BRRRRRRRR at an Ion for several seconds before I think "wait, shit, that's an Ion and they're *shielding*"
As a person who mained legion for a long amount of time, i agree with you- he deals stupid good damage but is often in the hands of inexperienced pilots who only play him because hes legitimstely one of the easyest to tank shots and deal damage with. I'm.not saying hes a bad titan because of it, but I believe legion truely shines no matter what your skill level is- just dont be suprised when you get matched up against higer ranked players for your sins
As a veteran titanfall player, i literally have all 52 hours of in game titan use (not to be confused with my hundreds of hours in the game itself) match time spent on scorch and a couple minutes on ion by accident which were auto ejected and switched back from when I realised I wasn't playing scorch. As a die hard scorch main I absolutely agree with your assessment. Also, my experience with just using scorch has placed me in the, "walking devil" S tier category of scorch users. Love that titan. I have used other titans in campaign but scorch is the only one for me really. Keep up the good work man!
On Xbox, i have only encountered one or two of these "smart" legions you speak of, the rest just feed my Vortex Shield bullets. And even then they are incredibly easy to trick.
On Xbox, i have only encountered one or two of these "smart" ions you speak of, the rest just feed my insatiable lust for bullet dumping into idiots. And even then they are incredibly easy to trick.
Just fucking shoot them until they shoot back lmfao They literally telegraph their attacks, vortex amp is ez gg Fuck else are they gonna do, punch you? Legions are fodder
Playing Scorch against a Northstar is hell but that moment when you catch them using flight core up close with a full thermal shield is so unbelievably satisfying
@@reapersshadow6524 even when they do stop firing they don't have any choice but to start firing again. LOL *Entangled energy getting my Shields back boi*
as someone who has only ever played northstar I normally stick near a legion and about 90% of the time a legion will dump their entire magazine into an ions vortex shield and then I get reduced to atoms because I was just hit in the face with the force of a thousand suns.
I was one of those rare scorch mains and after playing him a lot, I really got a feel for his main gun and could practically snipe pilots across the map with it. My main advice would've been to play him patiently and only go into full offense when you know you can corner your enemy and trap him into your AoEs. That was many years ago though so IDK how the meta looks like today but when I still played, I was pretty successful with him :) Naturally, the softball was my favorite pilot weapon too because it handles similarly! Good times! Here's to TF3 one day! 🍺
I have been playing Scorch more recently and I LIVE for those moments in Titan Brawl where I have 2-3 titans cornered in an enclosed space. "I'm not stuck in here with you... you're stuck in here with ME!" I dislike Ion because their main gun is so underwhelming. It is literally a plasma squirt gun that doesn't do nearly enough damage to make it feel satisfying. It feels like Ion was originally meant to be some kind of DOT flamethrower titan but had that role stolen by Scorch. Same deal with Legion. I have one dodge boost, and more often than not I use it to get IN to trouble rather than out of it. Getting to slide around a corner with my gun revving up to flank an enemy titan is so amazing.
I hate tone not because its op, but because you almost always have to back down from the fight. Once a tone player places their particle wall, you usually have to back away if youre not ronin or scorch. They're just really annoying like that. Also, tone is super boring to use imo. Theres no diverse things tone can do, just put up wall, shoot, rockets. Theres other titans that are way more interesting to use, and have multiple playstyles, so seeing a tone main makes me sad.
I think you just summed up my thoughts on Tone perfectly and why they are my least used titan, Tone is just a boring titan to play as. It's just the same simple process of "put up wall, shoot 3 times, fire rockets, rinse and repeat" I don't feel like a badass when I'm playing Tone, as I do with other titans.
Amazing analysis! I've mained three of these titans, Ronin then Monarch and lastly Tone. Your summary does all of the titans justice and describes their strong points just as well as their weak points. Great job!🤗
For the once in a blue moon occasion I end up using my titan in a match, it'll be one of three, I'm technically a Ronin main because, sword, but scorch's pure unbridled damage if you know how to use em and Ion's incredibly stylish playability with the insta-pew laser make me a mix of the 3
I honestly would go for a titan support class. You’re rolling with pilots who get a damage boost for being around you, maybe a shield. And have a siphon gun to absorb health and use that to heal titans
As an actually good scorch main, I loved that you talked about how scary a scorch main is because a scorch main who doesn't know what they are doing will get themselves killed faster than you can say titan fall three, but a good main will get tempered plating (seriously, do it thank me later better than improved heat shield I promise) hit him once or twice with your thermite launcher light those traps on fire with your fire wall preferably near a wall or corner hit him again with your thermite launcher and rush in there with your heat shield blind them doom them and finish them, and it all takes like 10 seconds (use that stratagey and thank me later)
i definetly see why you ranked scorch like that, but being a xbox one playerz it is a different story. if your met with a scorch and your alone almost always you WILL die, unlles the person is an absolute noob, the only real way to kill a scorch on xbox, is out-manovor or out gun. the second options harder, but not impossible, while the first is easiest, but depending on your map, you could be screwed
the three main titans have got to be the most common sight (except tones and monarchs) on xbox because they're all really good and i'm surprised they don't show up more
You don't know how many times I've cornered a titan and absolutely *melted* their hp. Scorch burns near everything and anything and while he sucks on maps like homestead, he's still great to play with.
What lobbys are you getting, I don't think I have been killed by a scorch more times than I have by a wingman elite (long story dont ask) it migh be my northstar bias leaking through but scorch is kinda easy to kill.
I’m a Tone main. At first I wanted Monarch or Ion. But monarch you had to pay for it at start and ion style when I played the campaign with BT like everyone seems too lacking and would be a difficult use of beginning multiplayer. Tone I started with cuz it looked cool and it had a majority of options in terms of adapting to any situation. I get ambushed by two or three Titans and salvo fixes that and 40 meter cannon takes out infantry like it’s nothing. I was scared of playing multiplayer at first but Tone was the reason why I was able to stay calm and focus. With other Titans they have specific roles and I like it where you can use all categories at the same time. Tone is closest to that. It saved my life so many times and inspires me to give support to the team and save lives in the end. Tone is a motivator for one team and a nightmare for the other side.
I loved mastering Tone "Don't get upclose, stick to sightlines" bro clearly has never cleared a flank with a tone. Like we have tracking rockets and you can get free tracking from ur abilities. Tone is the best
as someone who mains scorch and only recently started watching videos talking about how to play him: I play him very weird, Most people focus on getting in close and unleashing hell, i play him like a discount northstar, i give him the thermite launcher upgrade and sit long range hitting long distance shot and taking a nice chunk of damage from the improved launcher damage. It's really funny hitting someone and ducking behind cover only to watch them look around trying to figure out where the scorch that hit them is. I don't focus on flame shield. I find if i rely on it too much for damage output I end up rushing into situations that get me killed, so I mostly save it for if I manage to sneak up behind someone. I tend to live longer on maps like homestead than other scorch mains tend to report. I tend to mostly be more of a bane upon pilots in my lobbies than titans there is nothing more satisfying than hitting that guy who's standing completely still shooting at you with his AT weapon probably thinking to himself "There's no way the scorch can hit me from here!" I am no where near amazing at playing him! but I am improving every day and that improvement on the titan people like to tote around as the "Hardest titan to use" makes it worth it to me! even if every cool shot i make is followed up by me getting bullied by legions and monarchs
Personally, I used to play Legion when I first started because BRRRRRRRT and because the majority of titan players I fought had a panic attack when I sneezed on them twice in a row when they expected my CD to be up. Nowadays I play Ronin because he is infinately more durable than a Legion and has mobility. Sure he becomes a hunk of metal after doing a massive burst of damage, but if you use it at the right time against the right opponent, you'll be getting the most executions and Titan kills in the lobby. Also I run nuclear ejection Ronin because there's nothing funnier than guiding three titans who see you are doomed down a hallway with one or two of your Titan turrets, then nuclear eject to scare the enemy into the turrets which distracts them, which 8 times out of 10 kills everything. It also helps me play my role as a harrassing tank with more confidence to allow my team to regroup and chip away the high hp targets while I draw their fire.
Hi, this is a support monarch. Thank you, infinitely. I've played with someone who did something like that (my current pc cannot run titanfall 2 fml so it's been a while) and they were MVP in terms of team play and efficiency (I think the map was war games)
@@AA-vr8ve Honestly it's always a fun experience when a Monarch helps you out when you play ronin because even if you die, you've literally been protecting a Monarch this entire time and they just hit their third core, which means the match has been won essentially.
Legion main. I mainly play him because of how it feels compared to pilot mode. It’s a powerful kit that makes you go from “run and gun” to “no more running, we stand and fight”
As someone who primarily has played Scorch and Ronin I have to say a couple things. My biggest weakness on either Titan will always be a legion. I get absolutely aped from a far range by a legion and that’s what sucks about playing those two. There was a point when I loved monarch and I have to say, monarch is a great all-rounder Titan. However, my highest level Titan is Scorch and what makes a good scorch is gas trap and thermite wall placement. Because if you can trap someone in between your fire wall and your gas trap(s) you will definitely catch them off guard and make them take unwanted damage which is very good for you. Also with scorch time his core precisely otherwise it could be a problem for you since how exposed your core leaves you. Another suggestion I give as a scorch main is don’t be scared of your own fire, it may do a little damage to you, but here’s a secret, it won’t hurt you as much as the enemy and if you’re really that scared of the thermite, you can always throw on the mod that makes you take no damage from your thermite Edit: (sorry for so many words)
Been a Northstar main since 2017, and can say that she is very difficult to learn. Positioning, shot placement, health management, etc.: all stuff you absolutely need to master if you're gonna play Northstar. I can't tell you how many other NS's I've seen just leave themselves out in the open while I'm critting them from the other side of Homestead.
I agree with the scorch placement, I’m a very big scorch main and it’s really fun for me to be up close and personal and some of my favorite times in that titan I’ve literally seen enemy titans run. That’s also happened to me when 2 scorched dropped on me and I ran like hell do as much damage as I could 😂
I dont know if anybody already mentioned this but with monarch it depends when you drop her, early game when you can use pilots to get your cores with little risk of dying then yeah she's good. The only time you can use her late game is when you have an almost full team of titans.
As a ronin main, yes one of a favorite modes is titan brawl it’s so fun seeing other titans panic when I rush them and I hate scorch when I take them on I never have any health left
as a g17 tone main i can say tone does take some getting some use too, id say the 2 most helpful things to know is the splash on her gun, and how to arc the rockets, those 2 alone help me so much when facing a legion
I used to be a Northstar main. But knowing when you can afford to charge your shots is the big thing preventing me from being good with her. I find that I have bad game sense no matter how much I play. I am now a scorch main. His ability to nuke someone's health and force them to run or die if I got good positioning is really fun. And I am decent at positioning. To bad in most matches I never live long enough to get my titan. My awareness and general aim have never been good enough to do well in fast TtK games. And as a pilot I feel like I'm made of tissue paper. I simply do not have the capacity to move well enough to not instantly die and also aim well enough to kill my foe simultaneously. I can do one, or the other. But not both. So I find myself running around killing grunts and running away from pilots until I get Papa Scorch, maybe, and then I get 2 titan kills and maybe 4 pilot kills before dieing twice in rapid succession.
On those maps, honestly just use enhanced auto titan, it has insane accuracy, is very smart with it's abilites, and frees you up to support it, either by handling pilots, stunning enemy titans, or stealing battery's. The scorch is quite possibly the best enhanced auto titan, and outclassed most piloted titans, and with his pilot to support, he becomes basically unstoppable.
As a console scorch main, I must confess that I disregard this advice and play scorch as a sniper build. Somehow, it actually works if you get a good feel for the arc; the burst DoT can outclass most any titan because it lets you focus on mobility; downplaying Scorch’s huge weakness. The thermite cannon actually has decent range, and on maps like Blackwater or Boomtown, a good angle can kill every rooftop pilot with ease; while controlling the center of the map and dishing out massive damage to titans before they reach you. Honestly, I might be putting myself at a disadvantage, but no feeling comes close to when you hit a flying pilot from across the map with a well timed leading shot.
I have designed my ion to be a monarch hunter. Nuclear eject, enhanced vortex shield, and a shit load of rushing, it’s like waving candy in front of a baby, and lacing the candy in uranium.
@@eageraurora879 well that is essentially monarch mains, real shitty at titan fights so they use the (extremely) unbalanced upgrade cores to make it easier.
15 gen ronin here taking on two or even three titans at once became second nature honestly i dont think a lot of people realize how useful electric smoke is along side dealing with arc wave stun and damage the ronin can phase trough you and deploy it in phase dealing even more damage
As a Legion main i must say. You are 100% correct at everything you said. We are slow as shit but the second we got that Minigun revving aint no one getting out alive. Plus the Ion thing is pretty true as well. People think that Ion is a hard counter to Legion because of the shield but I can literally just not shoot while getting closer before unleashing a bullet storm Also being able to sneeze pilots out of existence is amazing
Ion main here, truly started multiplayer a few days ago. Best advice I can really give for her is to play her somewhat like Northstar. The tickle-like damage of her Splitter Rifle I feel is more to stack damage between laser shots. Hanging back like a Northstar helps further because you have more time to take cover or force them to peak while using laser shot. I have went on absolute rampages with her in a few matches. She’s simple on the surface, but once you learn her truly, which I’m starting to try and figure out, she can be a pain in the ass to fight against
Some months ago my main titan was Ronin, but then I played Nothstar once just bcz why not, on that game, I was face to face with a scorch and I knew I was screwed, until he used the core ability, and I by reflex pressed on hover mode, conclusion: I avoided death, kiled the scorch, we won the game in the end, I main Northstar and bought the black with some red stripes skin and got the viper nosepaint so I could appear like viper
You're so honest with these, i always loved scorch and only mostly used him and i have gotten pretty good with him, i were successful in most of fights and no one really could get me in a 1 v 1 titan fight since he has so much hp and so much controlling capabilities, half of players dont even consider rushing through a path you have trapped and if you get accurate with it i think his primary is the best for pilots and titans since you can deal damage and peek from covers and play smart with it
Everything you said about scorch is probably true. Due to that high burst damage and due to the fact that I main close to mid ranged titans like monarch and ronin, I feel pain when I see 2 scorch titans on the enemy team because I know that I can't do anything to them even from mid range due to their canisters randomly appearing under me
I’ve tried to main every single titan and I’ve found that I’m definitely not made for Ronin and Northstar, I have a very aggressive and straightforward playstyle, so I’ve always felt at home with Scorch. But then I tried maining Tone. I hated it the first couple of games but then I realized that I had much more fun playing as a Tone main and once I learned how to use its kit properly I’ve become an even better player than when I used to main Scorch and especially Legion. I’ve been maining Tone since then but Scorch also has a special place in my heart
As someone who plays Northstar a lot I can say that I've had numerous matches where I've had high tier Northstar players on the enemy team that just absolutely wrecked us because they knew how to use them
3 reasons why i main Papa Scorch A: Inferno Shield can take down a Legion IN ONE SHIELD B: you can block where the other Titan will leave so they have to face you with your shield ready C: Scorch Prime Termanation go BOOOOOOM
